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Hey All,
I have a super big problem >.<
I was trying to get clockworkmod recovery working on my phone and somehow it made me lose root access on CM6 and also I lost I lost my RA Recovery.
What do I do!?!?!
please help
PS: I still have S-On my phone
jvward said:
Hey All,
I have a super big problem >.<
I was trying to get clockworkmod recovery working on my phone and somehow it made me lose root access on CM6 and also I lost I lost my RA Recovery.
What do I do!?!?!
please help
PS: I still have S-On my phone
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Follow the process to root again
Any Idea why that happened?
Do I need S-Off?
jvward said:
Any Idea why that happened?
Do I need S-Off?
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i have no idea why that would happen ,, man im sorry , i only left it in cuz i know some people who use is ,
Hey Can I ask what does it offer outside what anons does?
jvward said:
Hey All,
I have a super big problem >.<
I was trying to get clockworkmod recovery working on my phone and somehow it made me lose root access on CM6 and also I lost I lost my RA Recovery.
What do I do!?!?!
please help
PS: I still have S-On my phone
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I have doen this too, Clockworkmod replaces Amon's, just reflash amons and it will come back.
Thanks,
I got it working again, but just wondering how would I used this recovery manager if I wanted to ?
I dont think it was properly flashing its own recovery image.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks!
jvward said:
Thanks,
I got it working again, but just wondering how would I used this recovery manager if I wanted to ?
I dont think it was properly flashing its own recovery image.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Don't use CLOCKWORK recovery unless you want a nice looking brick.
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Don't use CLOCKWORK recovery unless you want a nice looking brick.
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Using Clockwork turns my phone into an Iphone 4?
Jking, does it bring anything to the plate that anons does not? and if so does anyone know if there is a way to manually flash the recovery image from them onto the phone, because if I use it, it just make my phone sit at the skate board screen?
jvward said:
Using Clockwork turns my phone into an Iphone 4?
Jking, does it bring anything to the plate that anons does not? and if so does anyone know if there is a way to manually flash the recovery image from them onto the phone, because if I use it, it just make my phone sit at the skate board screen?
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It does have some pretty nice features, but it could cause a brick in the future.
I used it about a month before i had any problems with it.
I wasn't able to flash or restore any nands i had made, it would just spit out error after error. I even tried flashing the ROOT rom and that didn't help either. then when i tried rebooting it just never turned on again and I had to get the phone replaced. On other phones it works great, but on the eris its no good.
I would suggest stay with RA unless you're willing to risk your phone and money.
Cool,
I was just interested in the update rom feature for the Eris, but oh well if its that dangerous >.<
Thanks!
Quick question T2noob, I just noticed your post on the blog for clockwork recovery where you ever able to get past this error.
"The recovery for for the eris 1.8.1.1 isn't working, I tried to reboot into recovery but it never boots, it just stays at the android skateboard screen. If you need anything, testing, info on the phone, ect you can email me at XXXXXXXX"
Yea You need to flash RA then Clockwork thats how he had me fix it, but like i said don't use Clockwork recovery just take a look at this thread im not the only one
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687272
I find it really odd that so many people have trouble with clockwork. Been using it to flash ROMs for months with no issues. Hopefully don't have any in the future!
i've used clockwork mod for 3 weeks now without any problems. also have rom manager installed, same author. i absolutely love both apps. i came from a v3 leak and couldn't get amon recovery to load on my phone, this worked like a charm first time. also i read in the forums that amons recovery is no longer supported by the author unlike clockwork mod which the author updates frequently.
t2noob said:
Yea You need to flash RA then Clockwork thats how he had me fix it, but like i said don't use Clockwork recovery just take a look at this thread im not the only one
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687272
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that thread you linked too only has you and the op posting in it. in fact i read that thread before i installed it and thought to myself that 2 people aren't enough to convince me it causes any more problems than amon's. personally i only used clockwork because that is what i could get loaded on my phone and have loved it since. also its been updated like 4 times since May when that link was started. so if it bricks my phone so what it just a phone and everythings backed up in triplicate anyways. be a nice excuse to get me a new toy.
I also believe the op's problem is that he used rom manager to flash amons recovery. now its my understanding that doing that removes clockwork mod recovery and replaces it with amon's. so he actually had a problem with amon's recovery and not clockwork mod recovery. i think the problems occur when people use rom manager to falsh a different recovery instead of clockwork mod which it is made to work with. just my ramblings here.
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that thread you linked too only has you and the op posting in it. in fact i read that thread before i installed it and thought to myself that 2 people aren't enough to convince me it causes any more problems than amon's. personally i only used clockwork because that is what i could get loaded on my phone and have loved it since. also its been updated like 4 times since May when that link was started. so if it bricks my phone so what it just a phone and everythings backed up in triplicate anyways. be a nice excuse to get me a new toy.
I also believe the op's problem is that he used rom manager to flash amons recovery. now its my understanding that doing that removes clockwork mod recovery and replaces it with amon's. so he actually had a problem with amon's recovery and not clockwork mod recovery. i think the problems occur when people use rom manager to falsh a different recovery instead of clockwork mod which it is made to work with. just my ramblings here.
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take it as a grain of salt, if you come into the irc there are devs there that had this happen to them and can tell you what exactly happens. And I used ClockWork for about a month before i got the brick so...do as you like with this information.
well there are a lot of people running clockwork mod without problems. i went to the cyanogen forums looking for who was running cm6, like the op, and there are just as many people using clockwork as amon's. and there were a few reports of nandroid recovery failures using amon's in cm6 as the reason why they switched to clockwork.
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well there are a lot of people running clockwork mod without problems. i went to the cyanogen forums looking for who was running cm6, like the op, and there are just as many people using clockwork as amon's. and there were a few reports of nandroid recovery failures using amon's in cm6 as the reason why they switched to clockwork.
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I heard that clock work is a great recovery on other devices, but on the eris it's not good the irc devs also worked with the guy who makes the recovery email him if you like he will tell you he had gotten complaints about on the eris. And there isn't an official cm6 for the eris so the people you talked to were running it for other devices. Like I said a grain of salt.
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Well I would like to test it out but the recovery image it drops over anons does not seem to work anyone have any moderately detailed instructions on to how to get it to work?
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Guys which recovery is better- Amon RA or Clockwork? What is the difference b/w the two?
both are good at getting the job done. but clockwork is much better overall since it integrates with ROM manager and automates everything for you. definitely try out clockwork.
i've had issues with clockwork recently, personally I use Amon_Ra, but both are VERY similar almost identical
Blueman101 said:
i've had issues with clockwork recently, personally I use Amon_Ra, but both are VERY similar almost identical
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What type of issues?
Only reason I dont use Clockwork is because it works well with ROM Manager it auto updates my ROM and that is just annoying But really I cant seem to find any major differences between the two
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It didn't wipe a previous rom correctly.
Amon 's recovery gives me a feeling that it was designed for Nexus One
clockwerk's recovery gives me the opposite feeling, it was designed for all devices.
amon's recovery is easier to use, yet powerful enough for doing everything
clockwerk's recovery provides more options and detailed functionalities, but we usually don't use them all.
amon's UI is more easy and obvious to use than clockwerk's
if you don't rely on rom manager, I personal suggest using Amon's
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Amon 's recovery gives me a feeling that it was designed for Nexus One
clockwerk's recovery gives me the opposite feeling, it was designed for all devices.
amon's recovery is easier to use, yet powerful enough for doing everything
clockwerk's recovery provides more options and detailed functionalities, but we usually don't use them all.
amon's UI is more easy and obvious to use than clockwerk's
if you don't rely on rom manager, I personal suggest using Amon's
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Personally I think that the strong point of clockworth is the integration with ROM manager. In the other hand, I think Amon`s RA is more clear and has enough power to complete any task. The two are good, but I prefer Amon`s.
It`s your choice. Try both and decide.
I started using clockwork for some time. I gotta say I love the ROM Manager integration and the ability to go through folders so you don't have to always have what you're trying to flash on the root of your sd card. just recently though while restoring a backup clockwork just froze. I let it sit thinking it was just taking a while but after a good while I just pulled the battery. I went back to restore and it flew by quickly, restoring the rom just fine. this has happened twice already and it never happened with amon's recovery. I agree with houzuoguo when he said it feels like amon's was built for the nexus and clockwork was built for multiple devices.
I like clockwork for 1 reason. I love the comfirmation window he uses. A buch of no's then a yes are u sure.
Example:
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
Yes - This action can not be reversed
No
No
No
It amuses me.
What rom is the best?
What flavor ice cream is the best?
Try them both for a bit and make up your own damn mind.
codesplice said:
What rom is the best?
CM6 Nightly
What flavor ice cream is the best?
Mint Chocolate Chip by far.
Try them both for a bit and make up your own damn mind.
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I win! lol. But he does has a point.
Amon Ra is more stable/reliable; clockwork has the integration with ROM manager.
Personally, it annoys me that I can't even do the simple things like "check for updates" and "download ROM" without having clockwork flashed first. I don't get why, those are not functions needing the recovery; let me at least check updates and download them. I can do the flashing manually with my recovery of choice. I guess its an effort to get market share and reliance on the app, leading to more sales for the more feature rich paid app. So I avoid clockwork on principal. Not that I don't want to support dev's, I do, but this seems underhanded to me. Gimping every feature, whether they depend on recovery functionality or not.
Ok thnx everybody..
I think I should stick with Amon only..
A lot of roms say that they require clockwork recovery 3.0.0.6 to flash them. I know there's a way to flash it manually, but I personally want to wait until rom manager supports it. Is it absolutely necessary that 3.0.0.6 is there? I have 3.0.0.5, and i'm fine with switching between that and 2.5.1.2 in order to flash roms. Namely, i want to flash royalmint as it looks quite sick. quite sick indeed.
If you're willing to use 3.0.0.5 to flash Gingerbread ROMs and 2.5.x.x to flash Froyo ROMs, then it's not necessary. It's a whole lot easier to have one recovery though, obviously. ROM Manager does support 3.0.0.6 as far as managing backups, if that matters to you.
If your fine with re-flashing then not really. There are some fixes and code improvements but for the most part its up to you. but i'd suggest the 3.0.0.6 just for the convenience and i haven't heard of anyone reporting issues related to it. So as far as being safe id say its as safe and flashing back and forth to begin with. but don't do anything your uneasy about cuz if something does happen you are solely responsible.
If nothing else you could flash the newest version of 3.0.0.6 just so you don't have to flash "stock" recovery when you need/want to recondition/retrain your battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1014554
Isn't there a problem with backup in 3.0.0.5? Either way, the maker of Rom Manager works with the CM team, so there are literally 20 phones out that they are trying to provide support for. It's not that they guy has seen the fixes/updates in 3.0.0.6 and decided they were wrong, he just has a lot on his plate. The improvement is worth it, for compatibility, if nothing else. Add in the ability to charge while off in the newest 3.0.0.6 and it is literally a one-stop recovery. Do what you like, you don't NEED it, then again you don't NEED custom ROMs, or cell phones, or forums. So I guess it's all relative, but it IS important for flashing and ensuring a calibrated battery.
kimbernator said:
A lot of roms say that they require clockwork recovery 3.0.0.6 to flash them. I know there's a way to flash it manually, but I personally want to wait until rom manager supports it. Is it absolutely necessary that 3.0.0.6 is there? I have 3.0.0.5, and i'm fine with switching between that and 2.5.1.2 in order to flash roms. Namely, i want to flash royalmint as it looks quite sick. quite sick indeed.
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You do not NEED the 3.0.0.6 but it does make life easier. If you don't mind re-flashing the images then more power to you.
3.0.0.6 makes life easy. Trust me. I flash backup and restore alot through diff builds.
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I love 3.0.0.6 and has made life a lot easier, but don't believe it is necessary. Have heard that some of the bootloop issues are from using 3.0.0.5, but don't know if that holds any salt. Some of the mods are not compatible with 3.0.0.6 though.
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ptran said:
I love 3.0.0.6 and has made life a lot easier, but don't believe it is necessary. Have heard that some of the bootloop issues are from using 3.0.0.5, but don't know if that holds any salt. Some of the mods are not compatible with 3.0.0.6 though.
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You're giving out bad information. As has been said over and over, 3.0.0.6 is absolutely necessary to flash both Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs, and there is NOTHING that it is not compatible with. With 3.0.0.6 installed, you can flash ANYTHING, which is why it's so highly recommended.
Not true. Some of the older mod scripts are not compatible with the newer clockwork recoveries (see faves to anything post by trueblue_drew) and thus will get a script error if you don't flash back prior to flashing it. Most mods will work, but NOT all.
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ptran said:
Not true. Some of the older mod scripts are not compatible with the newer clockwork recoveries (see faves to anything post by trueblue_drew) and thus will get a script error if you don't flash back prior to flashing it. Most mods will work, but NOT all.
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Please link to those mods so people are aware. So you're saying they work when flashed on 2.5.x.x but not 3.0.0.x?
Yes. I thought the same thing as you until I tried flashing an anything to mms favorites button this morning and then got the script error. Read through the post and found out why. Will post a link to the thread.
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forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885967&page=12
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forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885967&page=12
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For those that might want that, that's good to know, thanks. I still think that considering all factors, 3.0.0.6 is still the best overall recovery solution, but it's good to know that it doesn't work for 100% of flashable items.
Agreed. Flashing back and forth seems like a waste of time overall.
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ptran said:
Not true. Some of the older mod scripts are not compatible with the newer clockwork recoveries (see faves to anything post by trueblue_drew) and thus will get a script error if you don't flash back prior to flashing it. Most mods will work, but NOT all.
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And the devs for those mods only have to change the update script to an updater script. Its fairly easy to do, and is technically the right way to do things.
3.0.0.6 does not support flashing amend scripts. Google has moved to using Edify scripts, or updater-scripts. That is the only type of script that 3.0.0.6 will support.
and for those mods (that are not full ROMs and simply minor add-ons) you can select all clockwork recoveries, switch to 2.5.1.2, flash your amend script, reboot, all clockwork recoveries, 3.0.0.5, and you're back on 3.0.0.6. They are not (for the most part) game-changing situations where you find yourself in a bootloop and it is important to have a versatile recovery like 3.0.0.6. Most of the flashable fonts on XDA are amend scripts as well, so using that method is an easy workaround for cosmetic upgrades and other framework tweaks. You can make a mistake and put yourself in a bootloop flashing these things, but first timers and people struggling to understand what is important about the different recoveries are dealing with ROMs for the most part. If you are getting to the details with other mods, you should at least take the time to get to the details about ROM Manager and the differences in the available recoveries.
I had no clue that this forum had gotten bigger than an answer or two 0.o
Anyways, i have a couple of reasons for not flashing 3.0.0.6 manually. I'm still a bit of a noobie, i got my very first android phone on christmas and i have managed to flash multiple release candidates of cm7 since then. I haven't gained 100 percent confidence in my abilities yet. Also, the instructions say that flashing 3.0.0.5 in rom manager will flash 3.0.0.6, and 2.5.1.2 will flash stock recovery. It seems like if any newer recoveries were released it would be impossible to use rom manager to update it with the slightly different set up.
Also, i heard another guy say that having the phone boot in to recovery when plugged in to power could be a failsafe if the phone won't boot normally, so i'll stick with 3.0.0.5 until rom manager officially flashes 3.0.0.6 the easy way.
kimbernator said:
Also, i heard another guy say that having the phone boot in to recovery when plugged in to power could be a failsafe if the phone won't boot normally, so i'll stick with 3.0.0.5 until rom manager officially flashes 3.0.0.6 the easy way.
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The original version of 3.0.0.6 in option94's thread also boots into recovery when plugged in.
I'm a noob, but I've done my research on rooting and flashing before I rooted. This post is simply to stress how much of a crutch clockworkmod is to rooted users unnecessarily. Its surprising how many topics on these forums come from users dependent on clockworkmod. Clockworkmod is an awesome app as long as you don't use it for ALL of the heavy lifting. Amon Ra is a great recovery tool as well.
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Rom Manager and Clockwork recovery would be awesome... if they worked reliably. I've been flashing manually using Amon Ra and have had a lot less problems than I did trying to do it the "easy way".
Rom manager is what I meant by clockworkmod. I am still a noob ;-)
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Sry0fcr said:
Rom Manager and Clockwork recovery would be awesome... if they worked reliably. I've been flashing manually using Amon Ra and have had a lot less problems than I did trying to do it the "easy way".
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I agree. I won't use anything other than Amon Ra recovery. Too many issues with Clockwork.
a lot of people simply use rom manager to download the rom then flash it manually through recovery. rom manager is just a nice easy way to get access to a **** ton of roms without scouring the net for download links and dealing with file hosting sites and such. same can now be said about kernel manager.
DomSim said:
a lot of people simply use rom manager to download the rom then flash it manually through recovery. rom manager is just a nice easy way to get access to a **** ton of roms without scouring the net for download links and dealing with file hosting sites and such. same can now be said about kernel manager.
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Exactly. Ease of use. Don't deny that some 'less experienced' users take advantage of such services and put off actually learning the 'long form' methods, but doesn't mean they're entirely bad. I've seen experienced users condemning anyone that uses them and I find it kinda lame. Besides, no ones fault but the end user when they mess something up. We will forever see posts about simple issues, so this won't stop it.
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Rom manager gives you easy access to Rom downloads & reviews, but a lot of times the roms listed are few and outdated. In my opinion, forums will give more insight on roms & kernels. As for resources, here's my main two:
Roms - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs
Kernels - http://ttechnology.home.comcast.net/~ttechnology/downloads.html
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I didn't think you could use rom manager with anything other then clockwork mod
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Crossrocker said:
I didn't think you could use rom manager with anything other then clockwork mod
You can't as far as I know. Rom manager disables features if clockwork mod isn't set as your recovery.
Gimme a couple a days to come up with a new sig that is cool.
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Thank you for this post!
Some good info here.
I haven't used Rom Manager or ClockworkMod since my first flash months ago, but I read in a guide someone gave someone about "manual flash override" or something like that. I understood that to mean you could enable that setting, use Amon Ra, and still use Rom Manager for certain things - like downloading.
Can someone confirm this? I'm just curious, I prefer Amon Ra for many reasons & like to do everything manually to avoid errors, but it would be neat if there was that feature... just so people have options.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
what type of problems are we having with clockwork? ive used it to flash a cm7 rom with no problem at all.
I have never used rom manager to install a rom.
I use clockwork recovery to flash roms and I don't have any issues.
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I haven't used Rom Manager or ClockworkMod since my first flash months ago, but I read in a guide someone gave someone about "manual flash override" or something like that. I understood that to mean you could enable that setting, use Amon Ra, and still use Rom Manager for certain things - like downloading.
Can someone confirm this? I'm just curious, I prefer Amon Ra for many reasons & like to do everything manually to avoid errors, but it would be neat if there was that feature... just so people have options.
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Yes you can! I use AmonRa for all of my flashing and wiping, but I still use rom manager for downloads and reviews. You can accomplish this by installing AmonRa directly in hboot. The AmonRa thread will give you instructions and required files.
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You don't want to flash AmonRa through rom manager because it disables most of the app features. Simply install AmonRa in hboot and rom manager is unaffected. This does disable the flashing capability of rom manager, but that's the purpose of this topic.
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I agree. I won't use anything other than Amon Ra recovery. Too many issues with Clockwork.
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I use Amon Ra too. I'm new to Android, but did a **** ton of research on the whole process. A lot of people would agree that Amon Ra is better than Clockwork, but each have their strengths and weaknesses.
I find Amon Ra's UI better organized, easier to use, and more responsive.
When I tried to flash SavagedZen or Baked Snack with clockwork it just wouldn't work. Switch to AmonRa and no problems since.
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You can flash both clockwork and amon ra from rom manager.my evo works great with rom manager new update of rm is cool which gives u option for dalvic and other things.
I've had so many less issues using AmonRa such as boot loop & difficulty restoring backups.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
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I will be receiving my Nexus 7 this week and would like to get some opinions on which CWMR seems the best based on user accounts. I'm conducting a poll to see which one everyone prefers. I've always been partial to the original CWMR but would like to change it up a bit. If you vote please tell me why you like the one you use over the others available. This will give us some insight on the pros and cons of each version.
None of them. CWM 5.8.0.2 Touch flashed via boot loader. Doing full backups each time is slow but I've found 6.0.1.0 less favourable to me.
you should consider twrp recovery. its also touch based, has more feature than cwm, much less buggy than cwm, and overall much more user friendly.
Thanks for the comments! I am considering TWRP since I hear good things about it. I also read that it compresses backups to save space. Just little nervous about touch driven recovery, I might touch the wrong selection by accident. I did that once installing recovery on my girls captivate with rom manager. Luckily I was able to reflash the correct version without any problems.
TWRP.... touch just lets you select what you want. You confirm most selections by using a slide approval. Compression works well. Now can name backups.
Started using on the KF and then my HTC Rezound where CWM had issues when the phone battery got low and would not let it charge.
In your poll, not sure what CWMR- TWRP 2.2.1 is supposed to be. TWRP is from TeamWIN not CWM
http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/103
I'm still on stock in the meantime, in-case there's more OTA updates this month.
From what I've read, TWRP is what I will mostly likely go with at the end of the month. Heard too much bad things about CWM's blobs taking up space and not being deletable, especially if you only want to carry one nandroid backup at a time.
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TWRP.... touch just lets you select what you want. You confirm most selections by using a slide approval. Compression works well. Now can name backups.
Started using on the KF and then my HTC Rezound where CWM had issues when the phone battery got low and would not let it charge.
In your poll, not sure what CWMR- TWRP 2.2.1 is supposed to be. TWRP is from TeamWIN not CWM
http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/103
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Yeah I know...hehe I tried to edit my poll but was unable to. I guess the term of CWM to me is the means of flashing roms and doing backups. Sorry Team Win did not mean to generalize. I'm just glad we have TWRP as another option.