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NEW USERS!

We've got a lot of new users appear on here lately, it looks like in search of updated roms for the x1.
PLEASE IF YOU ARE NEW TO THIS THEN DO NOT FLASH A ROM
without
A) reading
B) reading some more
C) reading even more!
All the roms should come through the SE Update Service, please use that as it is a simpler method and if something goes wrong, then you can go to SE to complain..
Please use the search if you have a problem, if you don't find what you want the first time, then search again, maybe try searching around the subject.
There's a very very good chance that the question has already been answered several times!
If you can't find the answer then flick through the older pages on the thread, if it's something to do with the operation of the X1 then there's a good chance it's in the oldest pages of the forum.
Experienced members get upset by people starting new threads with the same moans or questions because it really clogs up the great search system with all manner of wasted threads. If there's an existing thread than use that please! If the questions already been asked don't ask it again!
This forum is not a SE support forum, no-one (that will admit to it anyway) is from SE so if you have issues with them why not raise it with them?
If you want to know how you X1 does various stuff try one of the operators online guides.
If you flash a custom rom or another rom obtained from here, despite being warned not too. DO NOT go running off to MS or SE complaining that it's all gone wrong, they
A) won't likely listen
B)won't like us very much
Ta.

You should keep this on the very first ROMS subforum page fards
I know It's already written everywhere... old problem... but many people falls in parachute here, landing directly inside the ROMs post from external links. XDA DEVS is da bomb
And no newbies seem to read anything but exclusively what they are looking for

gtrab said:
And no newbies seem to read anything but exclusively what they are looking for
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Hmmm...a rather sweeping generalisation methinks...
I'm a noob here, I'll admit that. However, I'm a board Admin elsewhere in cyberspace so I know exactly where you're coming from. I've done my time reading, understanding, occasionally asking relevant questions in the relevant places, and trying to help out where I might have some answers.
Your advice is spot on, and anyone who is inexperienced should tread slowly and carefully. There is all the time in the world to learn how to get it right, but it takes very little time to totally stuff things up.
"Use the search, Luke"

Instead of telling new guys to read, you could've put the same effort into and making a nice thread for them instead.
Maybe a list on where to start reading and so on!
This thread has no meaning whatsoever. New guys will probably just read first lines skip it and ask a question.
And remember we have all been there, not knowing how to flash etc.
Also searching can be a very time consuming thing to do, and asking and getting an answer is often way faster.

this thread doesnt make sense without any links to where to read...

This forum is where you read. it is a development forum, not a help forum!
you read the first thread that the moderators try to get EVERY NEW USER to read, this was a gentle reminder to get people to do just that.
People are not here to act as customer service for people who are too lazy to use the search facility on this site.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=681487&postcount=1
try that and the one below for starters.

tarnaman said:
this thread doesnt make sense without any links to where to read...
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A perfect example of not reading. The purpose of this thread is not to reference, it's to inform.

FrezoreR said:
Instead of telling new guys to read, you could've put the same effort into and making a nice thread for them instead.
Maybe a list on where to start reading and so on!
This thread has no meaning whatsoever. New guys will probably just read first lines skip it and ask a question.
And remember we have all been there, not knowing how to flash etc.
Also searching can be a very time consuming thing to do, and asking and getting an answer is often way faster.
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Searching is quite time consuming but you have no idea what kind of information is in this treasure chest. U accidentally stumble on to some great stuff.

Bxsteez said:
Searching is quite time consuming but you have no idea what kind of information is in this treasure chest. U accidentally stumble on to some great stuff.
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and unfortunately it gets harder the more threads we get asking exactly the same thing over and over again.. ;P

Yea that is true. I was searching PIE6 and i ran across about 13-14 threads of the same question. i was on like page 3 or 4 of the search before i got the right hit.

maybe xda-newbies.com should be registered as a none development and referance site? lol

Bxsteez said:
Yea that is true. I was searching PIE6 and i ran across about 13-14 threads of the same question. i was on like page 3 or 4 of the search before i got the right hit.
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which reminds me the pie8 files that sun_dream posted in his BA 6.5 thread work, when copied over on itjes 6.5 (it's still pie6 core I think. but a bit snappier).

How about a period of not being able to post when registering ?, a day or three would give new members with their questions a little time to cool down and search/read for the answers which will usually be found here somewhere.
Just an idea.

loggy said:
How about a period of not being able to post when registering ?, a day or three would give new members with their questions a little time to cool down and search/read for the answers which will usually be found here somewhere.
Just an idea.
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I actually think that's not a bad idea, was just suggesting it to a couple of other members. Only drawback I think is that it couldn't be restricted to one sub forum such as the x1 from my experiences with vbulletin..
So it would restrict some of the truly amazing first posts that have come from some of the great genii?? on this site..
Alternatively we could have another Sub-forum, in the X1, with for newbies to ask the same questions of each other (like a creche) and anyone found straying outside of that forum until they've learnt to search and read would get electrocuted.. or something..

you mean, something like asking a question about an advanced feature, if you have it right then you're allowed to the real forums?
Well to be honest, the only thing a noob should read are the stickies. I learned to flash, edit, modify, type, behave, proof read, error correction, ask nicely, say please thank you cookie i love you, by reading those stickies.
Actually I think it's a good idea to have a sub-forum for the newbies, and then bomb them with the 'READ THE F-WORD STICKIES OR DIE' *going too far here...

Search ?? No thanks
FrezoreR said:
Instead of telling new guys to read, you could've put the same effort into and making a nice thread for them instead.
Maybe a list on where to start reading and so on!
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I LOVE this one.
Seems like he hasn't even seen the ROM-DEV subforum front page with all those sticky posts full of DIY tutorials, clear explanations, links, "how to"s... never mind...
FrezoreR said:
Also searching can be a very time consuming thing to do, and asking and getting an answer is often way faster.
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Maybe he's right: xda-devs should delete the "search" box and google is a freaking waste of time
And yes: I received two or three "search and read!!" replies to my very first posts too... Human nature...

gtrab said:
I LOVE this one.
Seems like he hasn't even seen the ROM-DEV subforum front page with all those sticky posts full of DIY tutorials, clear explanations, links, "how to"s... never mind...
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Well sure the sticky post are great, but this post could be done more helpful instead of saying something that is already stated all over the forum
Maybe he's right: xda-devs should delete the "search" box and google is a freaking waste of time
And yes: I received two or three "search and read!!" replies to my very first posts too... Human nature...
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But to search efficient you have to know what to search for, the keywords are important in a search engine. And when you're a newbie those terms might not be known to you. Or you might not understand a lot of them.
And beeing sarcastic about my comment is not helping anyone that is just pure immature.

fards said:
would get electrocuted.. or something..
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Haha. Make sure everyone has an 'xda' branded keyboard with strategically placed electrodes on it..
Ok ok, I guess that would be a bit overboard!

FrezoreR said:
Well sure the sticky post are great, but this post could be done more helpful instead of saying something that is already stated all over the forum
But to search efficient you have to know what to search for, the keywords are important in a search engine. And when you're a newbie those terms might not be known to you. Or you might not understand a lot of them.
And beeing sarcastic about my comment is not helping anyone that is just pure immature.
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Lets face it. Most people that come here with questions like "how can I flash my ROM?" just didn't bother to look. And trust me, there's plenty.
The bothersome thing is not that people ask questions, that's normal in a developer environment. What does bother me, and most - if not all - others is that they ask questions they can answer themselves by putting just a wee bit of time into it. Instead, they had rather have other people spend time doing everything for them. I can see where this attitude comes from - it's easier, but you get my point.

FrezoreR said:
Well sure the sticky post are great, but this post could be done more helpful instead of saying something that is already stated all over the forum
But to search efficient you have to know what to search for, the keywords are important in a search engine. And when you're a newbie those terms might not be known to you. Or you might not understand a lot of them.
And beeing sarcastic about my comment is not helping anyone that is just pure immature.
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If people manage to use a search engine to find this site then they can manage to use a search engine to find the answers to their questions.
Not knowing or being too lazy to be independent enough to search is the real immaturity.

FM Transmitter???

Is it true that the HTC HD2 has an fm transmitter already intergrated? If it is, how can I make that work??

the processor has fm transmit built in, but we don't know even if its wired in, and no drivers, and no info on how to talk to it. . there's a thread from some months ago in hd2 general somewhere

j_c_diaz said:
Is it true that the HTC HD2 has an fm transmitter already intergrated? If it is, how can I make that work??
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The Search Box is your Friend ...... And in the forum rules ....
But here ya go ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622377

*DELETED* Sorry wrong Thread...

Is watcher64 sponsored by Google as all his "answers" revolve around use search. One of the reasons people choose to us forums such as this is because they can get useful advive and help from experienced people not "just use search".

dhester said:
Is watcher64 sponsored by Google as all his "answers" revolve around use search. One of the reasons people choose to us forums such as this is because they can get useful advive and help from experienced people not "just use search".
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Its often quicker for the OP to search and find threads already opened than to sign up and post and wait for a reply.

dhester said:
Is watcher64 sponsored by Google as all his "answers" revolve around use search. One of the reasons people choose to us forums such as this is because they can get useful advive and help from experienced people not "just use search".
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Its none of my business really, & i dont know watcher64, but im guessing the point being made is that many new threads started are just repeat questions.
ive been a member for some years & virtually all the queries ive had re: the many devices ive had have already been raised & solved within XDA
plus its a lot quicker to search, than to post a question & sit back & wait for a response.
1 last thing XDA forum has a search tool you dont have to be sponsored by google to use it.
& before you come back (which your clearly entitle to do so), im not having a go just throwing in some perspective.
EDIT.... rp-x1 You beat me to it!!!

dhester said:
Is watcher64 sponsored by Google as all his "answers" revolve around use search. One of the reasons people choose to us forums such as this is because they can get useful advive and help from experienced people not "just use search".
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not sure what your problem is, but if you read the forum rules the first rule is SEARCH the forums before posting ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=47

[Q] Android as the main OS. I got a question

As I'm using my mattc Android 1.5b build on my HD2 and it works almost PERFECT, I can't stop wondering if a flash ROM will be available in the future..
The reason I am asking about this is because whatever HTC winmo model I'm googling for (TD2 android, Blackstone Android..etc...etc) I ONLY find HaRET boot's.. As I haven't seen any Android flash ROM I'm wondering if that's even possible..?
-Kim

You should really search before making a new post. Its not possible yet and if it was you would see a thread about it... This question has been asked about 40 times this month alone...When it comes out trust me you will know, So long as you READ and Follw this site like the rest of us

Yes I do read and follow. But I'm abit newbish on theese forums. I just found out that I should have questioned this in one of the stickys.. I apologize..
About that it's not possible, do you mean on the HD2 or in general?
My questions will go to the right thread from now on

As far as I've read it's looking like it MAY happen soonish. Currently, no all the builds are loaded off of your SD.

keem85 said:
Yes I do read and follow. But I'm abit newbish on theese forums. I just found out that I should have questioned this in one of the stickys.. I apologize..
About that it's not possible, do you mean on the HD2 or in general?
My questions will go to the right thread from now on
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OR you could search, or even browse the forums for the answer, instead of asking a question which seems to be answered at least once a day here
I'm a 'newbie' too.... and we would forever be 'newbies' without searching/browsing/reading.

Check HTC Kaiser. It has NAND Android, and is/was winmo based.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

"NAND" was the word! I didn't know that. Thanks Now I found ALOT about this

[Q] Android 2.2 Froyo HTC Wilfire

Does anyone know when the HTC Wildfire will be getting the Android 2.2 update?... I'm on T-Mobile & heard a lot of different rumours but nothing concrete, but be good if anyone has any news, thanks

Cyborgz said:
Does anyone know when the HTC Wildfire will be getting the Android 2.2 update?... I'm on T-Mobile & heard a lot of different rumours but nothing concrete, but be good if anyone has any news, thanks
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Link 1
Link 2
Link 3
Link 4
Link 5
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Did you HAD to open another topic, when there are already a 100 same topics?!
And answer is, NOBODY KNOWS!

Cyborgz said:
Do u think im goin to search for **** when there's 100 pages to sort through ur probably a muppet who does that, i'm askin about T-MOBILE u gimp!
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Well it wouldn't have taken much time (or let alone effort) to figure out the answer to your question. There would be no need to read through "100 pages" if you'd just learn to use the forum's built-in search function.
But this is getting off-topic, so let's get back on track. Nobody knows when (official) Froyo is coming to the Wildfire, but you'll know it very shortly after the release.

Cyborgz said:
**** thing about forums is u come across some right sad people who have no lives who wish they were forum mods Haha you's make me piss... its kind of like the Security Guard at the gate who considers himself to be the head of the Co-Operation... GET A LIFE FOOLS!
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Thing about forums is that they have tools so simple questions like yours can be answered without much effort by the user. Even if you had glanced at this page you would have seen similar threads to your own. If you had used half an ounce of brainpower you would have surmised that T-Mobile can't release their own update until HTC release an unbranded one first. If you had refined your search properly there wouldn't be hundreds of pages to sift through.
You think you're superior to people who use forums but you come here and expect them to help you with a question which has an obvious answer. So why did you come here if you're so cool?

Response provided with links; closed.

[Q] Full android flash for HTC HD2

Just wodering is there going to be a full android flash for htc hd2 so i dont have to run it off the sd card?

You should really read through the forums a little better. Before asking such a question. Don't u think that everyone running android would want that. Its called nand boot and its been in the works for awhile now.

Hrm, now this is is either a very unimaginative piece of trolling, or you've not even bothered to scan through the forums before posting.
I'd try doing a little research before yelling for help. And in the development forum too.... tsk, tsk. There's a Q&A section for a reason, you know.

Yes, its coming out in 2 hours, hold on to your hat...its coming, its called nandanoobaphobia......lol

Wow ppl stop being aggressive he seems to be noob on XDA ( it's not an insult to be a noob...everyone was a noob ! ).
To answer your question, developpers working hard on it but we don't know when they're going to release the nand flash !
You can follow the last news about this project on this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817261 ( do not post on this thead it's only to follow what's new ! )
NOW this thread can be closed I think
C ya !

If he's smart enough to post, he's smart enough to read.....nuff said, now this thread can be closed!!!

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If he's smart enough to post, he's smart enough to read.....nuff said, now this thread can be closed!!!
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I agree...There are countless posts in plain sight on the general forums to read about this topic.

he signed up in august, and this is his first post. i say troll... a bad one at that.
fail you lose one million internetz

You do know that many people sign up just to get a download? Having a three month old account doesn't disqualify someone from being a noob. It's possible, perhaps even likely, they signed up to download a simple patch or app 3 months ago, and have only now started reading the forums or using custom ROMs and Android.
I know these posts get annoying, but I don't think laying into first time posters is the answer. I see as much or more nonsense being posted by "senior" members with 100s or 1000s of posts.

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and have only now started reading the forums
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Obviously not!