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SPL 0.95 Radio 1.22.12.29. Update radio first or SPL first?

Hi, Dear
My G1 (T-Mobile)
Drea110 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.12.29
Sep 2 2008
Serial0
ROM 1.5
baseband 62.33.20.08H_1.22.12.29
Kernel 2.6.27-00392-g8312baf
Internal version kila-user 1.5 CRB21 147201 ota-rel-keys,release-keys
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I search the net, some posts said, If G1 has flashed with SPL, it cannot update radio again. Otherwise it will turn your G1 into a brick.
I don't know, if I could update radio directly or have to do some other operations.
My G1's voice (My friends always tell me my voice from the phone is not clear, seems in a very noisy environment) is not so good. Radio version seems out of date.
Any suggestions? Thanks very much!

http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/

Thanks very much for the URL to download all the files.
But I still don't know, if I should
A) Remove old SPL-->Flash radio-->Flash SPL new
or
B) Flash radio --> Flash SPL (new)
or
C) Back to RC7(Downgrade) -->Root-->Flash Recovery -->Flash Radio-->Flash SPL -->Flash ROM
which choice is right ?

evilkorn said:
http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
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Latest Radio
2.22.19.26I
Baseband Version: 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I
http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/files/ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip
Latest SPL
1.33.2005
MUST FLASH RADIO FIRST.
http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/files/spl-signed.zip

Do NOT install the "2005" spl.
There is only ONE valid SPL that is better than the one you already have... 0.95.3000 (engineering SPL for ADP1).
The "2005" spl is NOT COMPATIBLE and SHOULD NOT BE USED.
You can update SPL and RADIO in ANY ORDER YOU LIKE, as LONG as you do NOT use the "2005" SPL, which you should under NO CIRCUMSTANCES EVER use.
If you use the "2005" SPL, you might kill your phone!
It is NOT WORTH IT.
There is also NO REASON FOR IT.
Despite some people claiming that it is better, it is NOT, the only notable difference is that it remaps the partitions.
There is NO REASON to remap the partitions.
If you find your /data or /system partitions too small, MOVE SOME DATA TO /cache and symlink to it!

Also note: you may, with the current SPL, write the newest RADIO IMAGE. Unless you *must* change the SPL, you can leave it alone with no ill effects. The SPL will NOT affect voice under any circumstances.
I also suggest upgrading from 1.5 to 1.6.
Finally, the radio image you have installed corresponds to android 1.0. 1.22.14.11 corresponds to android 1.1, 2.22.19.26 corresponds to android 1.5/1.6. In other words, your ROM doesn't match your RADIO.

Dear lbcoder
Thanks very much for the details.
I am new to G1. The ROM installed now is a Chinese version from [hipack dot com]
I will check if the system could work properly after I flashed the Radio.
If not, I will update the ROM as well.
Thanks again for your reply.
Also thanks to evilkorn.
Regards.

[Q] [32A] going to old radio and keeping new spl

Hello everyone.
I used search but couldn't find it. Probably because search doesn't take under consideration 3letter words like "new", "old" and "spl".
I'm running:
sapphire pvt 32a eng s-off h
hboot-1.76.2007 (sapp10000)
cpld-12
radio-6.35.08.29
aug 21 2009, 18:19:15
1.6.2 AmonRA recovery.
Can I revert to old Radio and keep new SPL?
What should be the order of downgrade? Radio first and SPL later or the other way around?
Should I maybe downgrade them together and later upgrade SPL back to 1.76?
Any pros/cons of running old radio and new SPL? Is custom recovery a game changer in this process? Should I go back to stock recovery?
Thanks for your help. Cheers.

NO.. the spl and radio is a combo and cannot be interchanged.
Download my fastboot commander tool (magic version, check my signature) and it will do it for you the easy way :0)

And what if i saw in someones signature 3.22 radio and 1.76 spl ? just an error or a possibility?

Ask that someone...
But highly a mistake!

mumilover said:
NO.. the spl and radio is a combo and cannot be interchanged.
Download my fastboot commander tool (magic version, check my signature) and it will do it for you the easy way :0)
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Does recovery version has to be old too? Or can i just keep the new one?

You have to change your recovery too, because switching the radio alters your phones partitioning scheme, thus making the recovery crash.

keinengel said:
You have to change your recovery too, because switching the radio alters your phones partitioning scheme, thus making the recovery crash.
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thanks for the info. will do as told.

[Q] Is SPL Must for custom rom?

I am new to Android and this is my first device.... Previously, owned HTC P3600, HTC Diamond 2 and now got the HTC Magic today.
I read the Development section and question section...
Just want to confirm the following about it:
Q:1: Is SPL must for custom rom or root can do it for me?
As i read in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756918 that it is optional but like in windows it is must to load custom rom... confused!
Q:2: Do the company radio works or i have to load custom radio?
Q:3: Is android too easy to brick as far i remember my all last windows mobiles come alive again what ever i flash to it....?
My Device currently running:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5

Yes it's easy to brick if you just start flashing things without doing your research. The best/easiest way to root is to use one of the many programs available that will do it for you without the risk of bricking. I'll let someone else comment on upgrading your radio, but I can tell you that you will not have to update it. There are ROM's that will work with that radio just fine.

mustking said:
I am new to Android and this is my first device.... Previously, owned HTC P3600, HTC Diamond 2 and now got the HTC Magic today.
I read the Development section and question section...
Just want to confirm the following about it:
Q:1: Is SPL must for custom rom or root can do it for me?
As i read in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756918 that it is optional but like in windows it is must to load custom rom... confused!
Q:2: Do the company radio works or i have to load custom radio?
Q:3: Is android too easy to brick as far i remember my all last windows mobiles come alive again what ever i flash to it....?
My Device currently running:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.00.10 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5
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You should just follow the instructions for your particular device. Since there are dozens of different MyTouch devices and many of them are different in a variety of ways then it can be argued that there are better methods bearing better results than others. In a nutshell, there is no universal answer to your question. Being unfamiliar with your SPL (HBOOT-1.33.00.10???) I can't even begin to point you in the correct direction. Can you verify that information please?
In most cases it is recommened that you have an Engineering SPL for fastboot access. From there you can easily flash a custom recovery which in turn will allow you to flash a custom rom (along with making system backups, data wiping, etc) but neither are hardly a requirement. Radio? Again... depends on what you have specifically. Some roms require a certain radio or it will fail to even load. And only certain devices with certain SPL's (yours being 1.33.00.10???) can use certain radio types. The danger comes in when you attempt to flash an incompatible radio with the wrong SPL. This is why it is crucial to verify ALL information before beginning.

Any recommended SPL for mine device...?

I believe the OP meant to put 1.33.2010 for his SPL but I don't want to speculate. Could you please post your fastboot information again and double-check that it is correct.
Sent from my HTC Magic using Tapatalk

Yes, i rewrite it.... Here is the details....
DonJuan692006 said:
I believe the OP meant to put 1.33.2010 for his SPL but I don't want to speculate. Could you please post your fastboot information again and double-check that it is correct.
Sent from my HTC Magic using Tapatalk
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SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5

mustking said:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5
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Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548096

mustking said:
Q:1: Is SPL must for custom rom or root can do it for me?
As i read in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756918 that it is optional but like in windows it is must to load custom rom... confused!
Q:2: Do the company radio works or i have to load custom radio?
Q:3: Is android too easy to brick as far i remember my all last windows mobiles come alive again what ever i flash to it....?
My Device currently running:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO 3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009,17:28:28
Currently running firmware 1.5
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Q1) Yes the spl is optional. When newbies (which are the main target of the guide you linked too) come here, they are looking for an easy upgrade. Playing around with spl and such is not a good idea, unless you do your research... Sadly only 1 out of 100 do that. That's why the custom recovery is a perfect solution. You really have to do some stupid **** before you COMPLETELY **** up your device. Plus you can do almost anything using custom recovery.
Flashing a spl ( as i write in my guide) is only valid if you know some shell commands, know the difference between img and zip files, plus understand how the device is build around the different partitions, e.g. radio, system, misc ect. Sadly only few uses the time to understand the above and we have like 1-3 every day crying for help.
SO - only flash spl if you know what you are doing or have done the research.
Q2) There are no custom radios. Only stock. For your device, the 32A or more correctly the CPLD-12, there are 2 different combos of radio/spl/recovery you can use.
Read around for more info as this has been written like 100 times :0)
Q3) Well, it depends :0)
If you play around with spl or radio you can brick your device. Again to understand why here is some simplified info.
Spl - Secondary program loader - is the data that has to be loaded when the device wakes up. When you push power button, the hardware wakes up, and follows VERY SPECIFIC steps to activate all the internal components. When it's semi done, it goes for the spl to load the rest. The spl always has to be on the same place or the device will not know where to look. The device is like child(which is born again every time you hit the power). When you hit the power button, it have some instincts(the steps) then it gets more and more intelligent as time goes by and more and more data is been loaded and processed. Think of the spl as the first part of computers BIOS. When the spl loads, it has to get some info about the complicated hardware, like the screen, antenna, sound ect. That's what the radio is for. So the spl has to know WHERE to look for the radio, and the radio has to be in a certain format or the spl will be confused. Remember, we are very early in the loading process of the device, so the data is very machine-close and in a very specific format.
When the spl is done, and the radio has been processed, then it will look at the boot partition for info on how to load the OS. The boot partition has info about how to load the OS and the different partitions, e.g. userdata, system ect. It will also try to load the kernel which is the CORE of the OS. It handles the ram, filesystem, I/O, mount of sdcard ect.
BACK TO THE POINT:
If you mess up the first part (spl or radio) then your bricked. You device is like a 2 week old child and is useless. It wakes up, poops on you and sleeps again.
So, DON'T **** UP THE SPL OR RADIO.
If you mess up the rest, you can still recover the device. Some times that can be very limited because of the perfected spl, but that's for another thread :0)
So, for your device, follow my guide and you should be good to go. If you are confident, then flash eng spl also :0)
It's up to you to decide....
Good luck

Thanks everyone i ended up making the device rooted and flashed the custom recovery for a moment....
I have no plan to **** my SPL or radio and play with it later like football....
So, i am happy that i have now rooted and custom recovery installed... Any easy guide to load the rom?
Thank you everyone....

Download ROM, copy to root of SD card, boot into recovery, select flash ZIP from SD card, select ROM .zip file. That's the general idea, but some ROM's require that you flash extra files. For example CyanogenMod will require that you also flash a Google Add-on file.

Any rom that don't require any extra work and flash directly?

Come on... you started this thread perfectly... now don't mess it up.
Read around, do some research. You will find 90 % of your questions has already been answered within the first 10 threads...

Ok, thnx for your reply... i got the rom but i am scared that many refer to have nandbackup to restore if something goes wrong... and i didn't found the step by step guide to do so.... and yes one more problem appered my htc sync no longer detect the device.... i am still looking for the solution to this....

mustking said:
Ok, thnx for your reply... i got the rom but i am scared that many refer to have nandbackup to restore if something goes wrong... and i didn't found the step by step guide to do so.... and yes one more problem appered my htc sync no longer detect the device.... i am still looking for the solution to this....
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If you have ROM manager installed, just click "Backup Current ROM" from the menu.

DonJuan692006 said:
If you have ROM manager installed, just click "Backup Current ROM" from the menu.
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The problem was that i have no market in application menu because it was carrier locked to 1.5 donut with no google application... But, i managed all it is now running 2.2.1 but only problem i am facing right now is how i sync it with outlook... before it gaves me message, when i connect to HTC Sync now no message after the custom rom....???

ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL WOOOOOOOOOOOOORKKKKKKKKKKKKKKED.... Will soon list all the steps i followed....

HTC Magic 32b 3.22 radio ROM problem

Hi,
I have HTC Magic Vodafone UK version (32b) . A month ago I wanted to install a ROM which required a higher version of radio, and I bricked it
I had it repaired in a shop, but it seems that the guys put the wrong radio. This is what I get in fastboot:
Now I have 3.22 radio (which is only for Magic 32a). The problem now is that I cannot install 32b ROMs because of the radio, and 32a ROMs are also not working (or maybe I am doing sth wrong). The only ROM which is working currently for me is VOdafone 2.2.1 32a.
So, my question is: which ROMs should I be installing now - 32a or 32b?? Should I maybe go again with radio change, and go back to the old one (which is a risky process)
Thanks!

Thread moved to General.
Please pay attention where you post your threads next time.

Sorry, will pay attention in the future

The good thing is, that you have eng spl..
So you have total control over the device,,,
You can flash anything you want..
Just flash a different radio and you should be set :0)

Hey mumilover,
Thanks for the reply.
The thing is that I've already bricked it once when tried to change the radio, so now I'm afraid to do it again and thus trying to find some alternative

Download my fastboot commander from my signature.
Download this radio: https://rapidshare.com/files/455782324/2.22.19.26I.img
Flash it.
Download this recovery: http://rapidshare.com/files/387932919/recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.7.0G.img
Flash it.
Reboot into recovery and flash whatever rom you like :0)
Good luck.

When I was reading about flashing radios, I remembered pretty long and complicated procedure (downgrade android, wipe, etc.) Is it with your fastboot commander that easy???

I got more than 5000+ users....
:0)

mumilover said:
I got more than 5000+ users....
:0)
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OK, I'll give it a try...

Hey, I have just given it a try, but it won't flash the radio. I get the Fastboot connection (it says "Fastboot USB" on the phone screen), but in your app it says that "PRINT OF DEVICE INFO FAILURE - PLEASE CHECK YOUR CONNECTION.
No fastboot device connected."
Any idea what the problem might be?
By the way, I have been using regular fastboot for quite some time, and it was always working flawlessly with my phone.

Seems like its the connection to me, even with s-on on my phone it I still get the device info print off

Which OS do you use?
If normal fastboot commands works, then this tool SHOULD work :0)

mumilover said:
Which OS do you use?
If normal fastboot commands works, then this tool SHOULD work :0)
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I am using Windows XP (32 bit), and I have used regular fastboot at least 10 times on it to install different roms and stuff...
OK, I'll try again...

Aaaand, I tried again and it's not working again... same message...

mumilover said:
The good thing is, that you have eng spl..
So you have total control over the device,,,
You can flash anything you want..
Just flash a different radio and you should be set :0)
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Hi!
Thanx God I've found the proper topic )
Unfortunately phone that seems to be 32b based was bricked today.
Hboot view looked the same as in the first post:
SAPHIRE PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2010 (SAPP*****)
CPLD-10
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Jun 2 2009, 17:27:03
I adviced owner to flash 2708 radio and SPL 1.33.0013d from recovery.
After flashing of radio phone became a brick...
Hope guy will manage to unbrick it, but the question is what to do further.
Is it safety to flash radio/spl using your soft of it would be better to use fastboot method described here (I mean Revert to 32B Radio)?
And is radio 2.22.19.26I what we really need?
Which SPL should be flashed after to escape bricking?

Keep the spl...
flash the 2.22.19.26I radio and G recovery from my tool or fastboot.
Then you should be all ok...

mumilover said:
Keep the spl...
flash the 2.22.19.26I radio and G recovery from my tool or fastboot.
Then you should be all ok...
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Ok, I see. Do you think engineering 1.33.0010 should remain untouched?
But how to flash new 1.33.0013d which is required for many roms with appropriate kernels?

P. S. I've tried your tool on another computer, and still can't get a connection to my HTC Magic ((

It finally worked!!!
Well, nobody told me that I needed to install this HTC Sync software...

OK, so I finally installed 2.22.19 radio, but for this ROM I need 2.22.23 and Death SPL. Is it safe to install those using your tool???
Again, thanks for your time!

[Q] Permanent root on a 32A device with new Radio/SPL

Hey guys,
I have myself a situation here.
I have a 32A Magic device, running the 1.76.2007 ENG SPL and the latest 6.35 Radio.
Not sure about the exact version as I don't have the phone with me at the moment, but it's the last one. 19 I think.
It is running the RA Hero Recovery. Version 1.6.2.
I received the phone with a Taiwanese RUU installed and with a Perfect 1.76.0007 SPL. Followed some steps and managed to install a custom recovery and SPL/Radio.
The thing is, that the device was always S-ON. Now, I want to downgrade to the old radio because of a battery drain issue I am having all of a sudden and realize that if the Security is ON, I can't downgrade directly from FASTBOOT.
I looked all over for a way to make the S-OFF, but was unable to find a definite way of achieving this. All of the guides referred to a device which had the old radio/SPL.
I also found This guide from Cyanogenmod which seems to address the 6.35 devices, but I get a USB error when trying to install the RUU. Maybe it's because I skipped the Goldcard method?
The device has been on here for a long time and I was wondering if there wasn't an easier way to achieve the S-OFF or should I go and follow the whole Goldcard/RUU/Custom recovery/Radio/SPL method?
The problem in the Goldcard is that I don't have a card reader and I don't think that my card is good for Gold.
I've flashed numerous ROMs but all were using the new radio/SPL.
Any help would be appreciated.

Flash a different spl from recovery?

tvall said:
Flash a different spl from recovery?
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Flash a different NEW SPL or flash a different OLD SPL?
Because I think that Flashing an OLD SPL from recovery will brick my phone since I have the NEW radio.

Godzi said:
Flash a different NEW SPL or flash a different OLD SPL?
Because I think that Flashing an OLD SPL from recovery will brick my phone since I have the NEW radio.
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I was thinking a new spl. On the 32b if you have an eng spl you have s-off. It might be diffrent on 32a... wait for someone with experience with 32a devices to reply

Run this command in fastboot mode and restart into fastboot again.
Code:
fastboot oem eraseconfig

The fastboot oem eraseconfig command did the trick. 3 days of looking all over the place and it was as easy as a fastboot command. Strange thing is that I didn't see it anywhere.
Thank you. Old Radio and SPL are on there, let's hope the battery doesn't drain in 15 hours anymore.

Glad i could assist :0)