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I have been using the new XDAII for about three weeks or so and already I have experienced over 6 times critical crashes that caused the device to not even be able to restart after reseting. Even more troubling is that even when pressing the on/off button and hard reseting, the problem still cannot be solved. The only way I got around it is by actually removing the battery and letting it sit for a few minutes, put in the battery and then performing the hard reset. Of course, then I lose all data that was previously on the device. Right now, what I do is use the xBackup program to back everything to SD card and just wait for the device to crash. Then ultimately recovering. I can get around, but this is really quite annoying.
I have written to O2 about it and they said something about a radio version 10513A0, and that if this is the version (and it is), then I need to either register (which I did and wait for some upgrade), or send it in to O2 collection point for repairs. I really don't want to send it in because then I would have nothing to use (since its both phone and PDA). I just don't see why O2 could not just simply fork over the upgrade software. Also, I have experienced twice that the device would suddenly no longer be recognized by Activesync (newest version). It would automatically connect as GUEST and nothing could be done about it. No shuting down Activesync and restarting, or rebooting computer or/and xdaII, or even removing and reinstalling Activesync could solve the problem. Again, the only solution I have is to perform the infamous full reset, wipe out the whole xdaII and then everything works again.
Anyway, all of this is really killing me here, just wondering if anyone has experienced this kind of situation and maybe have some advise.
By the way, the Bluespoon Digital seems to work fine with the XDAII although sometimes it does crash and a pairing must be done again, but definitely not like the Jabra 200 problem.
I had the same sort of problems with my first XDA-2 and as time pasee the problems got worse, So i returned it to o2 and got another one, same software and hardware versions, but this time with no real problems
John
XDA II Critical Crash
I have had the exact same problems as you experienced and was about to throw that gadget out the window... but then
Following advice received from an XDA II owner I tried the following:
I hit soft reset each time upon seeing the red text in the lower right corner 5 consecutive times. Then I waited and my XDA II came back to life effectively performing a soft reset rather than having to do a hard reset. Fascinating, let's see whether you have as much success !!!!
Thanks for the tip... I'll try it next time it happens again! However, I'm still wondering about the ROM v 1.06 and that Radio software upgrade. Thanks!
I'm also finding the XDAII needs a hard reset more often than the XDAI (although fewer soft resets). Had to do it twice last night, very annoying. Interesting tip about the soft reset at the boot screen, will give that a try next time.
O2 really should do something about it!
Ya, I totally agree. All this reseting and crashing and recovering is really not acceptable. The product features are definitely good and they did make some improvements, but this kind of quality is a definite downgrade. Even O2 admits that if your radio number is 10513A0 then you should send it in to a collection point for a software upgrade. They also insisted on registering which I did, but I just don't understand why they could not just simply post a downloadable software upgrade or ROM upgrade so that we don't have to be without a device. After all, we are talking about something that is both your PHONE and your PDA.
The ROM upgrade is definately necessary. I sent mine in and after that, no hangs whatsoever. No more hard/soft resets at all either. :lol:
if only it was so easy
I would have sent it in, but since I am traveling and don't live in HK, there is just no way to send it in. Besides, it takes about a week, which means nothing to use during the time. O2 really should be more considerate about this. If this was just a functionality upgrade or a boost in bells and whistles, waiting is reasonable. However, we are talking about crippling disfunctionality in a US$800+ device, they should atleast have the sense to post a fix to solve the problem. I heard something will be released in January, I wonder if this is confirmed. I am really sick of waiting. After all, MDA and T-Mobile supposedly already have something out. If they don't do something soon, I would really reconsider anything from O2 next time.
I have experient the same problem on my XDAII, and after 7 times hardreset during 14 days business trip in USA. I send it back to O2 and wait for the solution(already 1 week pass). And even a hardreset sometime could hardly be reached. You need to try 6-10 times. I think it should be a hardware problem because I acutrally upgrade my rom to a newer one(and not the english version), and after two days, I lost my phone function again. I have faced the same problem on my older PPC phone once(LENOVO ET180) and after I send it back to the vendor, they said the mainboard has failure, need to be replaced. After doing so, it works 6 months without a hardreset. I saw the same issue on PPCSG and PCCW.net, they all send their PDA+Phone back to the service. I think you better do it now as maybe there is no a ROM upgrade could solve the problem.
Goog luck. and if without those issues, it is really a perfect PDA+Phone. I love it. When I faced those ****, the only thing I could think is to buy another XDAII
I've the same problem
I've tried your tip to restart my Mda2 with XDA2 rom, and it works!!!!!!!!!!
Now I'm looking for a new Rom upgrade to change my radio version...
Still I think it's the solution and not to replace the radio hardware...
Cant Trust My XDA II
Well it's now Dec 2004 and I ALSO have the same problem.
I've only had my XDA II a couple of months and already I'm quickly loosing my patience with it!!
It crashes at least TWICE a week causing me major headaches.
If I was abroad and it did this I would be in severe trouble.
I brought this as a business tool and I'm afraid it is to unreliable to place
my trust in...
I have the latest ROM update installed
I can ill afford to send it in because it holds my customer base,
day to day stuff, Navigator and many other stuff I use on a daily basis.
"O2, what can you do for me?"
Topdog38uk, what software have you installed - especially any today plugins?
rgds,
Alex.
sigh... i haven't had such a problem since i bought it..... till i update the new rom from O2 uk site... now i feel like throwing to on the ground lolz. anyway i just installed WM2003 SE upgrade mysterman from the forum and 1 crash so far.... :roll:
Please help, I recently bought the O2 XDA Flame. I had been using the device for a couple of months. As time went on the speed of the phone has deteriorated. At first i thought it was nothing, so i would restart the phone. But then came another issue, after the restart the device would take even longer respond to any command. It would just hang during phone calls also would have isseu with opening the contact etc. I even tried to Hard reset the darn thing but it would not work and would just keep hanging on me.
Please if anyone has any information it would be helpful!!!
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Please help, I recently bought the O2 XDA Flame. I had been using the device for a couple of months. As time went on the speed of the phone has deteriorated. At first i thought it was nothing, so i would restart the phone. But then came another issue, after the restart the device would take even longer respond to any command. It would just hang during phone calls also would have isseu with opening the contact etc. I even tried to Hard reset the darn thing but it would not work and would just keep hanging on me.
Please if anyone has any information it would be helpful!!!
Help Help Help!!!
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sounds like it could be HW issue or SW as well. if it's still covered by wty better send it to SC. we don't want to void the wty right? hehehe if WMG has ROM upgrade you may want to try and upgrade it and see if problem still persist
I have been relatively calm about the shortcomings of my HD2. I understand when purchasing anything even slightly touched by the delicate hand of Microsoft that you will have to tweak, fix and workaround - this is all part of the fun with the phone.
Today however the phone went one step too far. I awoke this morning to find my HD2 had yet again forgotten my PIN number, so on unlocking the screen I was informed that I had entered the incorrect PIN(!). I soft reset the device, removed the SIM card, let it stand for a few seconds then booted up again to no avail.
I have now entered the 'incorrect' PIN too many times, and so my device has deleted all information on it... losing all contacts, photos etc.
For a phone to get something so basic so wrong is unforgivable. Coupled with the issues with SMS (i.e. texts sitting in the outbox, and when it finally decides to send them, they go to the wrong people, taking an age to load conversations), I think HTC/Microsoft have a problem they need to address.
Sorry to hear of your problems, but by far the majority have not had any of the problems you have mentioned. Try a hard reset and remember to back up your device.
Mine has lost connection settings and 2 email accounts at the same time. Your problem is much worse of course. Instead of a finished phone i feel like part of an experiment at the moment, and HTC will finish the Rom whenever they can be bothered..
jimhaddon said:
I have been relatively calm about the shortcomings of my HD2. I understand when purchasing anything even slightly touched by the delicate hand of Microsoft that you will have to tweak, fix and workaround - this is all part of the fun with the phone.
Today however the phone went one step too far. I awoke this morning to find my HD2 had yet again forgotten my PIN number, so on unlocking the screen I was informed that I had entered the incorrect PIN(!). I soft reset the device, removed the SIM card, let it stand for a few seconds then booted up again to no avail.
I have now entered the 'incorrect' PIN too many times, and so my device has deleted all information on it... losing all contacts, photos etc.
For a phone to get something so basic so wrong is unforgivable. Coupled with the issues with SMS (i.e. texts sitting in the outbox, and when it finally decides to send them, they go to the wrong people, taking an age to load conversations), I think HTC/Microsoft have a problem they need to address.
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I have had this incorrect PIN message also. sometimes when left over night and occasionally during the day.
So far a soft reset has solved it. Since having my HD2 I've had to reset it 1 - 2 times a day. Not very impressed at its lack of stability.
I have a SIM free unlocked UK HD2
Is this all happening on the stock rom or cooked roms?
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Is this all happening on the stock rom or cooked roms?
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stock rom i have the original 1.43 i think and i have had this problem, was begining to think i was the only one!
Also My HTC HD2 lost its password already twice
Hello, I can add to this threat that I also had an unexpected and incorrect ' wrong password' experience twice, where my password (8 digits, correctly entered) was suddenly not accepted anymore. Soft resets did not help and I had to restore previous backups loosing recently entered data. Very annoying and in my view not acceptable.
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Danny Groeneveld
The Netherlands
Very annoyingly this has also happened to me. My phone ran out of battery last night, and when plugged back in a few minutes later, the device didn't recognise my four digit pin.
Is there some sort of generic pin it resets to?
Am now locked out for 30 minutes at a time, and very worried the next time I try and get it wrong all my data will be wiped.
Can I back up my contacts/data on to my PC despite the phone being locked? (Am at work right now so can't check for myself)
Great phone but this is unacceptable
2 Options:
1) don't lock your phones with a pin code
2) flash a cooked Rom as they have been more stable based on feedback that I have been reading.
band27 said:
2 Options:
1) don't lock your phones with a pin code
2) flash a cooked Rom as they have been more stable based on feedback that I have been reading.
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The problem is I have to have my phone hooked up with my work email/calendar etc and for some reason it insists on a pin
Sorry but - what does "flash a cooked rom" mean?
Thanks
Sam
oh and soft resets haven't worked here either
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The problem is I have to have my phone hooked up with my work email/calendar etc and for some reason it insists on a pin
Sorry but - what does "flash a cooked rom" mean?
Thanks
Sam
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How to flash a cooked ROM:
Step 1:
Read the first page <<HERE>>..
Step 2:
Then select a cooked Rom From <<HERE>> in the list where it says [ROM]. Read <<THIS>> for more guidance. But it's not necessary to read it because if you go BACK TO STEP 1 there is also a video that shows you what to do with the ROM FILE after you have downloaded it. REREAD STEP 1 when you have everything in place as it's that simple. Make sure your read the WHOLE PAGE OF STEP 1 before you begin and even during the process there is TROUBLE SHOOTING DETAILS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.
thanks band27
I've had to hard reset and because I couldnt connect my phone because it was locked I'm not been able to back up some bits.
Reading elsewhere it appears like a WM 6.5 problem. absolutely pathetic, but why htc hasnt sorted it as well is quite a disgrace.
i've decided not to get my work emails back on my device so i don't need a pin, its my own mobile anyway so they can take a walk!
password dissapear
hi.
i have had some experience of passwords dissapearing so each time i use one of any of my 3 email accounts on the hd2 it requred me to re-enter my password.
the same thing logging into latitude on google maps
i figured out i can repeat the fault every time by installing swipe keyboard, or un-installing it !!
dont even know if this is the real reason it happens but it works ( or fails ) each time and i tried it on a few different roms now !
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i have the same problem and i have been tring to unlock phone after restart and it keep saying incorrect pin and im locked out.
Not recognizing my pin (again)
I bought the HTC HD2 end of january. Nice phone. But after 1 week it didn't recognize my pin anymore. Fortunately the shop where I bought it, has a '14 days not happy with the phone get another one'-policy. So I gat another HTC HD2. Had to install everything again and lost everything I had stored on the other phone. But the new phone worked !
Till yesterday evening. Again the HTC HD2 didn't recognize my pin
I tried to install the ROM-update. But that doesn't work, because you have to unlock the phone for that (otherwise there's no connection between my phone and my computer). Also tried the hard reset. Nothing works.
I hope someone has a solution for me. Cause I'm really getting tired of this.
i don't know, i unlock my sim pin since my first phone, my e-mail accounts are working fine, i don't have any of these problems so far, i bought mine january
This has happened to me a few times where a soft reset worked and once where it didn't (lost all data). Each time it was first thing in the morning and my alarm didn't work. That was on 1.48, since going 1.66 I haven't had either problem occur and it's been almost a month.
J
Which PIN is this? The phone lock or the SIM PIN?
If it's the phone lock, can it be disabled by de-selecting it. This would be a horrible thing to happen if it couldn't be disabled.
i had a big problem with my HD2, I was in the bath and I dropped it of course it got wet but now that blasted crappy stock htc software thingy won't even switch on.....
Next time i'll flash a cooked rom.
I've had my phone for about 6 months. It was working fine, but lately it's been acting really strange. It freezes on boot and get stuck on the "Stick together" screen.
I've tried a HR, Update and it still persists.
I've wanted to flash a custom rom, but the phone also freezes on the boot loader so i can't even get the flash to follow through.
The one time i got the tmobile's latest flash update to work. It rebooted the phone and then the problem was still there. With it getting stuck on the "Stick together" screen.
A few times when i tried booting the phone, the phone vibrated 7 times and then turned off.
I've looked around the forum and searched for quite some time but haven't found anything. (It's a pretty big forum so i may have missed it). I will continue to keep looking but if anything has a fix or can help me please do.
Thanks!
(Glad to finally be part of this community)
-Raymon
Sounds silly but try these two things.
1. There are some pins on the battery that can be easily bent. Inspect them to make sure they're ok. There are usually other symptoms with this though, such as it won't take a charge or won't start at all, just thought I'd mention it.
2. Try it without the SD card in.
Hey, thanks for the reply!
The phone charges fine with the usb cable. It's at full charge right now actually.
I took out the sim card and sd card when i did the HR and before i put those back in, the phone still froze on boot.
Really not sure what's going on, I'm going to try flashing it again when i get home. But last time i tried, it got stuck at 0% and then my phone froze, was scared it was going to brick, but i don't think it did.
Any other insight would be great, i really hope to resolve this issue.
If any other information is needed, please don't hesitate to ask. I can provide as much as possible to get to a conclusion.
Thanks,
-Raymon.
I got the same problem -- freezes and 7 vibrations before it. I made formatting with mtty (task 29 and task2a), it didn't help.
Anybody knows about 7 vibrations signal? Is there leodiag like blackdiag for HD?
That 7 vibrations HAS to mean something...but i'll be damned if I know what. People in both Leo sections keep saying that their phones vibrate 7 times then shut off, and I don't know what that really means....some investigation is in order!
Just got done talking to t-mobile, my replacement is on it's way, still very weird.
Would love to know the solution to this.
Please tell me can I replace my faulty HD2 from T-Mobile? I bought it in Frys without contract and used it with another provider. I never had a T-Mobile contract.
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Please tell me can I replace my faulty HD2 from T-Mobile? I bought it in Frys without contract and used it with another provider. I never had a T-Mobile contract.
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same here, bought the phone on Ebay and i live in Albania.
i have the 7 vibrations and then i have to take off the battery , leave the phone cool down so i can use it again for the next 10-20 minutes and then back to the vibrations
I have the same problem, mostly when i used GPS application, the phone reboot then vibrate one on th esplash screen then 7 times and freeze, the solution for this is to remove the battery for 10-20 minutes, pray and put it back, it is very annoying. I have this problem with ROM including the stock ROM.
hd2 freezes on BOOT!!!
try to take out the sim and leave the SD card in you will notice that it will work much better and get past the stick together screen ..mine does the same thing i think i may theSIM card but who know??
Nice suggestion, but totally useless.
I think these 7 vibrations means fault in NAND operation, but didn't find any approves.
I've this problem too.
7 vibration and freeze.
I've try update new radio, task29, new custom rom but nothing better.
Did anyone found any solutions, Please share.
Thank you.
mine got same problem.. i put the hd2 in freezer (without battery) for 3 minutes, then take it out.. put battery.. and my hd2 can start.. but after a while, when the cold is gone.. my hd2 will off it self.. hehehe
Any solutions?
I have the same symptoms, though the vibrations aren't that frequent, as much as stucking is..
I am not in a position to get a replacement, what do I need to fix?
This seems to be a heating problem, the freezer solution seems to work
Hello all and thanks in advance for the help.
I just got a refurb Hero from Sprint a couple weeks ago. I Rooted with Z4Root and started trying out Roms. I had just went from CM 6.2 to 6.1. Had everything working fine until my screen would stop coming out of hibernate mode. I would have to reset the phone to get the screen back on. It has gradually gotten worse (over the course of one day). Now when I reset the phone I might get the screen to turn on 1 out of 40 times, but the screen is now all messed up even when it does turn on now. I cant figure anything out other than to answer a call because I know where the slider is supposed to be on the screen for answering calls, so if someone calls I cant see anything I just swipe the screen and it answers fine.
Any ideas what might be causing this issue? Would it be a harware issue?
Thanks again
Yea I would try a different download you might have gotton a bad one. Also you should try a different rom after a full wipe. If that didn't work then I would say its a hardware issue.
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Thanks for the reply. I did nandroid back to every previous backup I had. Now I cant get the screen to turn on at all so, Im guessing its hardware. taking it to Sprint Today, we'll see what they say.
Thanks again
Yup, They replaced the screen and I'm back in business!
Swwet, glad to hear it man now enjoy more xda
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I was just wondering if there was something to do with installing different roms that could have cause the screen to go out? I am thinking not, but I am new to the whole rooting and rom-ing thing. Is it possible that something I did caused the screen to go out?
Na I doubt it. Hardware usually is the manufacturers fault or user error. Unless you droped it, banged it up real bad or flashed a gsm radio your good. And a screen issue such as yours is most def not a rom issue.The rom dev's on here are solid. And XDA is a well known and respected site. If you need any help with anything just let me know.
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cool thanks for the response. I was just worried that maybe I messed it up somehow. Glad that was likely not the case