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I love my Epic. Just switched from Verizon and have found I roam a lot on verizon. Which is fine, but when I'm home it's half a bar or sometimes no bars at all but still sprint. Time without a signal right now is 97%. This is draining my battery and causing me to drop calls. Is there a setting to prefer use of strongest tower regardless if it's roaming? If I roam to Verizon it's Full bars.
Thanks,
See if you can get an airwave.
why would you switch to verizon when it has no 4g?
@rawsoup. So 4G does exsist?? Not available here. I was curious if there was an app to use strongest tower regardless if it's roaming. Wherever I go it's always half a bar with sprint. So calls will connect but then they drop. I guess I'll just get an airwave for my house, work and the grocery store.
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toddman said:
@rawsoup. So 4G does exsist?? Not available here. I was curious if there was an app to use strongest tower regardless if it's roaming. Wherever I go it's always half a bar with sprint. So calls will connect but then they drop. I guess I'll just get an airwave for my house, work and the grocery store.
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hmmm. thats funny what area (not specific address, i'm not a stalker) do you live in?
I have to agree with OP on this...the ability to flop over to roaming would be awesome. It's amazing..this same post has shown up for a ton of different phones throughout the years and the first response is always "why?".
I live in Queens in a basement apartment, 15 minutes from Manhattan. If I go outside my building, I get 2-4 bars service. Depending on where I leave my phone in my house, I get 0-1 bars, 1 if I'm really, really lucky and have been a good boy all year.
Currently, without paying stupid amounts of money for an airave (I don't even make that many phone calls, just need to be available for work), I have to turn the phone radio off, load up sipdroid to use with my gizmo5 account, and rely on google voice completely. I don't get texts, but since I have GV I get those texts and that suffices for now...but it's a lot of work to simply be able to be reached.
Verizon has 5 bars in my apartment. I shouldn't have to pay sprint whatever ridiculous amount they're asking for the airave hardware and the service when sprint already has roaming deals with verizon, and I pay for these roaming contracts in my monthly plan. I should be able to switch over to roam in my house for the off chance that I do get a phone call, and so that my battery isn't drained completely by two hours of trying to aquire sprint's signal.
The Palm Pre had a roam only hack, and it was beautifly done. Can someone get the ball rolling for an android app? I know there have been three billion posts in relation to this feature on android...but it would be really, really helpful.
I agree but airwaves hve been mostly free for people calling in needing help with ****ty service inside. Especially if you can be nice but still be fcirm with pleading your case.
Now sometmes new accounts need to wait 90 days for new free hardware to establish payment history and if you don't pay your bill or in general are a pain in the balls don't expect them to help you.
However many people get them without the monthly fee and free hardware.
Looks like roam control from the market will work on Samsung phones nextweek
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Sweet, just what I'm looking for. Thanks!
I guess if I root my phone, sprint won't let me return it with their 30day worry free program. I guess I'll just have to just trust it works. (unless there's a unroot option)
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Looks like roam control from the market will work on Samsung phones nextweek
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Where did you see that update at?
Wait wait. I'm lost. Roaming on VZ network is free on Sprint?
fazooley said:
I have the solution for all android phones. PM me for details!
fazooley
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This loser stole my app from the market and is trying to sell it. No one wants you here. Plus, quit spreading bad information, it doesn't work for *all* android phones...take the Droid X for example.
Wow. You people need to stop wondering why and just answer the question. Clearly OP doesnt have any type of good signal.
I live in the bronx in a basement apartment and i get 2 bars if im lucky. But its always switching between sprint and verizon killing my battery, lagging my phone and dropping my calls. F the airwave. I had force roaming with CM6 on my hero and would use it when im home and get full bars with no interuption and then switch to sprint when i step outside my door where i get full bars.
But anyways, nah i dont think the epic has force roaming yet...when someone ports CM6 over it should have it.
You can go into settings/wireless & networks/ mobile connection and set it to home only and it should be able to hold onto that 1 sprint bar you have and it wouldnt constantly switch to vzw and back, killing your phone.
It sucks. I remember i would hope i started roaming before i got the option for force roamong lol
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And yeah roaming is free and unlimited on verizon. But apparently theres a data cap of 300mb on 3g and unlimited 4g roaming (which is bs cuz sprint is the only one using WiMax) with the 4g phones....but im not entirely sure...
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Just so people know, there is an app in the market called "Roam Control" that allows you to force roaming on your Epic. Disclaimer: I am the developer.
Otherwise, with HTC phones, you can run CM6 which has the roaming option built in.
The joker above (fazooley) pirated my app and is trying to sell it to people for $1. I think you're better off ignoring him.
yes it does but requires root dang
churro7 said:
yes it does but requires root dang
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Yeah, sorry man. Not into the rooting thing?
well of course i am but i want to root froyo instead
Thanks guys for your help. I figured out the Forcing Roam issue by just switching back to Verizon. Problem Solved
toddman said:
Thanks guys for your help. I figured out the Forcing Roam issue by just switching back to Verizon. Problem Solved
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Lol
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Long time AT&T customer probably switching to Sprint, been eyeing the Epic..
If I get a voice call, is it possible (if I'm using a BT headset or speakerphone) to fire up a web browser on it and use that while I'm in-call? To look things up, or whatever?
If it can't do that, are there any other Sprint phones that can (EVO, for example?)
Thanks!
if i remember right, you can use data and voice only when you are connected onto 4G and WIFI, but not 3G. i have not tested this out yet to confirm but i remember reading that somewhere if i read it right. i also came from att (iphone) and being able to use data (3G) and voice at the same time was a major plus. ill have to try it out though later on my epic.
Yes u can use data while on a call only if you are on WiFi or 4g. Tested and verified.
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Well, drat. Thanks fellas. Not that I do that very often, but it does come in handy. I checked and EVO "suffers" from the same problem.
Again, thanks, that's handy to know.
Its a cdma limitation, not a device one. Both sprint and verizon have this issue.
Aridon said:
Its a cdma limitation, not a device one. Both sprint and verizon have this issue.
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Some might say it is a "limitation", however is it the reason why cdma networks do not suffer from dropped calls like gsm networks do.
For more information, you can check out this rather lengthy post about why cdma is better than gsm.
yeah, i experience the same thing. it's becoming pretty much a deal breaker for me, as often i am on the phone for an hour or more and am trying to look things up at the same time. no joy. plus the abysmal battery life has me glad that i am still in the 30 day window ?; i like the phone a lot otherwise. wish i could get it for ATT. i have never had problems with their service, and would love to be able to talk and surf at the same time.
On 3g only voice.
On 4g voice n data simultaneous
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remedy22 said:
Some might say it is a "limitation", however is it the reason why cdma networks do not suffer from dropped calls like gsm networks do.
For more information, you can check out this rather lengthy post about why cdma is better than gsm.
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+1 you can thank the iPhone and this great "feature" for the ****ty network over at ATT
what!!!!?!?!!?
Thunderbolt review
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/28/htc-thunderbolt-review/
The HTC ThunderBolt is able to send and receive data and carry voice calls simultaneously. It the first of many Verizon Wireless smartphones that will be able to carry voice calls while moving data, and it can do so over Verizon’s new 4G LTE network as well as its older 3G EVDO network. I tested this capability a great deal over the past week, and it has worked flawlessly for me. Whether connected to 3G or 4G, apps and web pages on the ThunderBolt continue to hustle along while voice calls are being made. I’m not sure if this new technology plays a role in the noticeably degraded audio quality I noted above, but the functionality is there so and many users will be elated.
either i am miss understanding this part or verizon enabled something to allow voice/data over their 3g cdma network
IceCreaMan said:
what!!!!?!?!!?
Thunderbolt review
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/28/htc-thunderbolt-review/
The HTC ThunderBolt is able to send and receive data and carry voice calls simultaneously. It the first of many Verizon Wireless smartphones that will be able to carry voice calls while moving data, and it can do so over Verizon’s new 4G LTE network as well as its older 3G EVDO network. I tested this capability a great deal over the past week, and it has worked flawlessly for me. Whether connected to 3G or 4G, apps and web pages on the ThunderBolt continue to hustle along while voice calls are being made. I’m not sure if this new technology plays a role in the noticeably degraded audio quality I noted above, but the functionality is there so and many users will be elated.
either i am miss understanding this part or verizon enabled something to allow voice/data over their 3g cdma network
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Verizon is implementing SVDO which allows voice and data simultaneously. Its an evolution of EVDO.
Happy to hear it...just ordered my tbolt. Should be here tomorrow. I never used the feature but since i can now....im sure i will use it alot.
Thats pretty neat....but it sucks that you cant turn off 4g....and battery life using LTE and the Thunderbolt seems to be on par with Wimax and the Evo.
TonyArmstrong said:
Verizon is implementing SVDO which allows voice and data simultaneously. Its an evolution of EVDO.
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My touch, pro 2 had svdo
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skillzo1 said:
Happy to hear it...just ordered my tbolt. Should be here tomorrow. I never used the feature but since i can now....im sure i will use it alot.
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You canceled your sprint account?
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TonyArmstrong said:
Verizon is implementing SVDO which allows voice and data simultaneously. Its an evolution of EVDO.
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Ahh sweet! Come on Sprint
DarkManX4lf said:
Thats pretty neat....but it sucks that you cant turn off 4g....and battery life using LTE and the Thunderbolt seems to be on par with Wimax and the Evo.
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Most ppl have been using the app "Phone Info" from the market to force the phone to use CDMA/EvDO data which turns of the 4g radio
Later today i am...waiting for my tbolt in the mail. Im tired of sprints data issues.
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You canceled your sprint account?
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It's the same as turning on your 4G, getting on the internet and the talking on the phone. Come one use your common sense.
Sean-El said:
It's the same as turning on your 4G, getting on the internet and the talking on the phone. Come one use your common sense.
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You can do the same with wifi
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JUST2SUAVE said:
You can do the same with wifi
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Werd.....
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Sean-El said:
It's the same as turning on your 4G, getting on the internet and the talking on the phone. Come one use your common sense.
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Except that you can find ways of turning off LTE and using just EVDO, saving battery and the annoyance of having to constantly turn on WiMax.
Sean-El said:
It's the same as turning on your 4G, getting on the internet and the talking on the phone. Come one use your common sense.
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You can do the same with wifi
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Both of you missed the boat...duh try voice and data at the sametime in an area where there is no 4g or WiFi and see if it works for ya. The answer is no but apparently Verizon is learning that users want this feature and has been enabling it on certain devices. Now we just need sprint to follow
IceCreaMan said:
Both of you missed the boat...duh try voice and data at the sametime in an area where there is no 4g or WiFi and see if it works for ya. The answer is no but apparently Verizon is learning that users want this feature and has been enabling it on certain devices. Now we just need sprint to follow
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You might need to check that boat schedule, yourself. The 3G and LTE antennas/radios are separate, just like Sprint's 3G and 4G. So, if you live on a market that Verizon has yet to light up their LTE and you'll be in the same boat.
I would hazard a guess that the reason you've not seen either Verizon or Sprint actually promote simultanious voice/data as AT&T does is that it's limited to markets where they've lit up LTE/4G.
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Vegasden said:
You might need to check that boat schedule, yourself. The 3G and LTE antennas/radios are separate, just like Sprint's 3G and 4G. So, if you live on a market that Verizon has yet to light up their LTE and you'll be in the same boat.
I would hazard a guess that the reason you've not seen either Verizon or Sprint actually promote simultanious voice/data as AT&T does is that it's limited to markets where they've lit up LTE/4G.
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That's assuming that this isn't SVDO which is 3G/EVDO and completely unrelated to LTE.
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Award Tour said:
That's assuming that this isn't SVDO which is 3G/EVDO and completely unrelated to LTE.
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This is exactly what's going on.
Verizon is rolling out SVDO, as I mentioned earlier. Proof comes from the following link: http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/simultaneous-voice-data-coming-to-cdma
It can be -- and is apparently being -- done.
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Both of you missed the boat...duh try voice and data at the sametime in an area where there is no 4g or WiFi and see if it works for ya. The answer is no but apparently Verizon is learning that users want this feature and has been enabling it on certain devices. Now we just need sprint to follow
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Area with no wifi? If I'm in my house I have it. or in any cafe also
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JUST2SUAVE said:
Area with no wifi? If I'm in my house I have it. or in any cafe also
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A whole two places? Amazing.
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A whole two places? Amazing.
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Every where in my city has wifi, you must live in a cave or the mountains.
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So anybody heard about the new evo update allowing them to talk and be on the internet at the same time?
Haven't heard anything about that, have been able to do that if using 4G or WiFi.
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It is a limitation with CDMA technology. You can talk and be on 4G or WIFI but not 3G.
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It is a limitation with CDMA technology. You can talk and be on 4G or WIFI but not 3G.
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Yup , Verizon made it possible on thunderbolt cause it got 2 antennas or something like that
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jgalan14 said:
Yup , Verizon made it possible on thunderbolt cause it got 2 antennas or something like that
+1 i hope sprint comes out with this kinda phone
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You could probably do that with groove ip and ur Google number, u would just chew up data opposed u minutes, I have only used this over WiFi, but it should work over 3g also
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bring it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I read a discussion about this once before. Basically they said that due to limitations in cdma tech, it most likely won't happen unless the phone has separate transceiver chips.
That's what they said, not what I'm saying, lol
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I read a discussion about this once before. Basically they said that due to limitations in cdma tech, it most likely won't happen unless the phone has separate transceiver chips.
That's what they said, not what I'm saying, lol
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I am moderately surprised this hasn't happened yet. Given that we have a wifi chip, an FM receiver, bluetooth, 3G, 4G...some phones have had FM transceivers as well, NFC, etc....
I am not surprised, however, because bandwidth is very limited...we're not talking back-haul, we're talking actual radio wave space....I'm dying to know what breakthrough will come along to alleviate that.
If anyone wonders why your mobile internet sucks it's oversaturation....not of the back-haul line that connects the cells to the backbone but of the very air itself as allocated. There's only so much physical space in them airs. Too may people, not enough frequencies, bands are too narrow, too many things need their own band.
It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.
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It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755.
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HAHA no you didn't. It's a limitation with cdma, you CANNOT use 3g and phone at the same time.
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It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.
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I think this is the same guy that came on and said the same thing on the last post that got out of hand.
This is real simple:
CDMA Technology has a limitation that doesn't allow talking and data on the same radio. End of story. No, there isn't a way around it.
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I think this is the same guy that came on and said the same thing on the last post that got out of hand.
This is real simple:
CDMA Technology has a limitation that doesn't allow talking and data on the same radio. End of story. No, there isn't a way around it.
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Exactly why WiMaxx 4G was established, to enable that capability.
GSM is only able to achieve this because they have HSPA for the data side if i'm not mistaken.
Sprints already in the works on switching to LTE 4G, I wonder if they can just make it a hybrid WiMaxx/LTE network and have a radio capable of using either...
So when Sprint switches to LTE, will the current 4G phones work still?
There is a newer version of the CDMA spec that allows it, but Sprint hasn't deployed it. It's unclear if they will, and it's unclear whether existing phones could be upgraded to use it if they did.
For now, it's just like it always has been on all CDMA devices...no 3G data while you're on voice.
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There is a newer version of the CDMA spec that allows it, but Sprint hasn't deployed it. It's unclear if they will, and it's unclear whether existing phones could be upgraded to use it if they did.
For now, it's just like it always has been on all CDMA devices...no 3G data while you're on voice.
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Yeah I heard about this on Verizon side
And about 4G working after LTE deploy most likely unless they upgrade you for a free LTE device or a lawsuit lol
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runcool said:
It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.
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No, it is a huge limitation with cdma. Sprint isn't the only one with this limitation.
The tbolt is the only Verizon phone to offer it. It has svdo (?.) Technology. We wont be able to do it with an update.
Why cant I talk and use data at the same time? Is there anyway to fix this? Currently using 4g...
Worked perfectly on my HTC One X....
riceboiler said:
Why cant I talk and use data at the same time? Is there anyway to fix this? Currently using 4g...
Worked perfectly on my HTC One X....
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What carrier, what version of the S4?
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riceboiler said:
Why cant I talk and use data at the same time? Is there anyway to fix this? Currently using 4g...
Worked perfectly on my HTC One X....
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No.
4G/LTE is at the moment on most carriers in the world I believe a data only service. If you make a call, the phone will look for a 3g or 2g network to make a voice call on. If it goes to 3G then some carriers allow data and voice simultaneously, others dont.
At some point, some carriers will enable VoLTE (Voice over LTE) which should mean you can do Voice and Data at the same time.
As far as I am aware, the HTC One X isnt an LTE phone, so you were using 3G and the explanation lies above.
Mine is s4 non LTE version. And i cant talk with data connection at same time.
Can someone give the advice?
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Mine is s4 non LTE version. And i cant talk with data connection at same time.
Can someone give the advice?
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As above, your carrier may not support it. It may even be down to different configurations on the bts your connected too. Depending on the amount of backhaul to it, it may not be allowed. Some bts in a different area may be configured differently, or, as mentioned yor network doesn't support it at all.
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As above, your carrier may not support it. It may even be down to different configurations on the bts your connected too. Depending on the amount of backhaul to it, it may not be allowed. Some bts in a different area may be configured differently, or, as mentioned yor network doesn't support it at all.
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I were using other phone with same simcard connection, and im able to do that multitasking (data and call with same time).
Just wondering is there any setting on s4, as i dont believe it because of my bts connection doesnt allow.
Btw Tomo, thanks for your advice.
My s4 i9505 on Three UK allows it. I often send whatsapp messages while on a call.
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Mine on tmobile uk allows it sometimes but not all the time. That maybe down to differences in the Orange network that tmobile share.
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