Do any of you have problems with Android Market automatically starting data connection, even if it's turned off in the settings and with HTC data widget and even if wifi is turned on and connected at the same time?
As soon as I kill Android Market app with task manager, data connection is turned off again.
It's getting kinda annoying that I don't have control over it.
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I am not sure if this is even a problem, but before today my data connection to t-mobile would only connect when needed. For instance, if I was home then I would be connected to wifi and my data connection would turn off by itself, but would still connect if needed by a program, or whatever, that can't use wifi but needed the data connection instead. Like when I sent a MMS message for example. Then after the message was sent or whenever the program was done with the data connection then it would automatically disconnect where I would continue to use the wifi connection. Also, if I left the house then I would automatically be switched to the data connection as the wifi signal went out of range.
This is the way I liked it. Today it had changed the way it behaves. Now, the data connection stays on no matter what and I have to manually turn it off in the comm manager. Also, everytime the screen turns off and the device goes into sleep mode, or whatever you call it, the data connection automatically turns backs on while it is sleeping. For example, when I go to sleep I press the red hang up button to put it in sleep mode then I go to sleep. When I wake up in the morning the data connection is on and when I go to turn it off it shows it has been connected for however long I was asleep for.
Like I said I am not sure if this is a big deal or not, I just don't want to be charged for going over the data cap for some reason. And I am not sure if maybe there is a program in the background that might not be showing up in the task manager and is downloading data that will eventually cost me when it goes over the cap.
Now I know that certain things automatically connect to download data like mail, weather, stocks, twitter, etc., but I always thought that they could use a wifi connection if available. And if not then I know for sure that it used to at least disconnect the data connection after it was done.
I am basically asking if this is normal because it used to not be like this on my phone and if it is something I need to.be worried about? Also, if anyone knows how to change it back to the way it used to be? I would greatly appreciate it if you let me know how to do it.
Thanks,
Michael
Anyone?
All I want to know is if it is normal to always have the data connection on. So does anyone else experience this? The data connection seems to reconnect by itself everytime the phone goes in standby and stays connected until I manually disconnect it.
Thanks,
Michael
Hey I just happen to have similar problem with the data connection turning on by itself when I check email on my wifi.
If you goto comm manager - menu - connections - advanced
Under "select which networks are automatically" - select networks
Change the connection type under "programs that automatically connect to the internet..." to your wifi connection from "t-mobile data."
Seems to work for me at the moment anyways. It's not connecting automatically to data connection when I check my emails.
Hi Michael.
It's actually the default behavior for the data connection to stay on once it's activated, until it's switched off manually. You won't pass significantly more data that way than if you just turned it off right after whatever app(s) are doing using it...the only downside to leaving it on is the speed at which it drains the battery.
There are some users who choose to leave it on, just to avoid the delay when they want to use it, and there's probably tons more who don't even have any idea you might want to turn it off when not in use.
Now I could swear there's a cab floating around here somewhere that will shut off the data connection once it sits idle for 60 seconds, but I didn't turn it up in a casual search the other day, so I can't point you to it right now
As for the apps using wifi when it's available instead of calling up a data connection, every one you mentioned should do that, and those all behave that way for me...so maybe there's something else you haven't thought of yet that ignores wifi when it connects to update or whatever. I would start by turning off auto updating for any and all of those services you listed, and see if the issue persists. If so, you'll need to dig deeper to find the culprit. Do you have microsoft myphone connecting to backup maybe? That seems to ignore wifi on my phone, I'm sure there's other apps that do as well.
Today it actually quit doing it for some reason. So I have no idea why it did that for awhile. Now I read that some people were having the opposite problem, which was that they couldn't get their connection to stay on. Now, this is actually the way I want it. Oh well, I hope it stays this way now.
Thanks for your help,
Michael
Never used wi-fi on a phone before. Once i'm connected to my local wi-fi, is that what the internet goes through and i won't be using my data usage or do i need to do something to make sure it's running through wi-fi and not using my usage?
yup once you are on wifi the data connection logo should disappear and all traffic should be via the wifi connection.
try downloading 3g watchdog from the market to keep track of data usage. its really useful.. for me anyway
cheers
Hi!
I have a problem with my data connection as it seems to stay open after any internet usage like weather update, opera etc. Every time I have to close it manually via the comm manager or it just stays open.
Does the same thing if I have 3G enabled or just GSM.
Any ideas, it´s quite annoying...
Metalhead_79 said:
Hi!
I have a problem with my data connection as it seems to stay open after any internet usage like weather update, opera etc. Every time I have to close it manually via the comm manager or it just stays open.
Does the same thing if I have 3G enabled or just GSM.
Any ideas, it´s quite annoying...
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Try bandswitch. It auto disconnects your data after a certain time.
I already have Data controller that should turn off data connections after 30sec if they aren´t active. Is bandswitch a similar program?
UPDATE: When comparing to my coworker's phone (who doesn't have this problem), we went through all settings/etc and matched them up exactly. The only major difference between our two phones was that I was running Launcher Pro. When I uninstalled it, this problem went away completely. HSPA+ did get activated in the Google Market, but it didn't hinder my browsing experience. Anyone else having this issue, are you running Launcher Pro? And if so, if you uninstall it, does it fix the problem?
I know that there is an ongoing issue that Motorola is looking into concerning HSPA+ data connectivity dropping out. This is not that issue.
Here's the scenario:
- Atrix 4G purchased on release date
- Using 4G SIM card
- No SIM unlocks
- Have 4Gig Tethering plan
- Set to AT&T US HSDPA APN (have tried AT&T US Tether and AT&T US wap.cingular)
- Connected to Wifi
- Issue occurred prior to rooting and after rooting.
- Issue has occurred since day 1 of using device.
Issue: Launching Google Market and browsing around will eventually start showing connection timeouts, typically after looking in a few app descriptions.
What I notice:
- When connected to wifi, the cell data connection gets turned off (i.e. the grey up/down arrows are no longer showing). I assume this is how it is supposed to work (since if on wifi, no need for cell data connection).
- When launching the Google Market application, and after browsing for a few seconds, I notice the cell data connection doing something (grey arrows come back, and then will briefly show black arrows, then back to grey).
- Once the issue occurs, I attempt to browse in Dolphin or even the XDA application, and it doesn't connect.
- Turning wifi off then back on fixes wifi until I try Google Market again.
- Turning cell data off allows Google Market to work fine with no issue.
Thoughts:
- It seems that when connected to wifi, the cell data connection should be getting overridden regardless.
- Somehow Google Market is causing the cell data connection to activate and messing up wifi
- This happened on a 3G SIM and a 4G SIM (so it doesn't seem like a connection problem, simply a software issue)
- I have a coworker who has an Atrix as well and does not have this problem when connected to wifi
- I have other devices connected to the same wifi without issue (thus not a wifi router issue)
Any and all help is truly appreciated and thank you in advance!
Nice first post and seems pretty accurate. I switched on airplane mode and then just enabled wifi to test this out and had a zen-like market experience. Not a single hang up. Hopefully this will help lead to a fix. Thanks.
Have you tried switching off your data connection before connecting to wifi?
I had a similar issue where my wifi would be on simultaneously with my data connection so I just hit airplane mode whil wifi was on that turned off both wifi and data then I re-enabled wifi (airplane mode still on) waited for it to connect then I turned airplane mode off. Never had the issue again
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Hopefully motorola looks into this as this is my only true gripe at the moment. I go to dl an app and it stops at a random percentage, I go back into market and see the app is paused. I cancel and Redownload and usually works. I also get a timeout error almost every time I go into market and have to choose retry or close.
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Have you tried switching off your data connection before connecting to wifi?
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Turning off data connection does solve the problem, however that is only a stop-gap and I have to leave the data connection off (then remember to turn it back on when I leave my wifi area). No other application I use has this issue, so I would expect it's a software problem, but it doesn't seem to affect every Atrix owner.
drock212 said:
I had a similar issue where my wifi would be on simultaneously with my data connection so I just hit airplane mode whil wifi was on that turned off both wifi and data then I re-enabled wifi (airplane mode still on) waited for it to connect then I turned airplane mode off. Never had the issue again
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Yeah I've done that too, sadly it still crops up for me.
skillz9669 said:
Hopefully motorola looks into this as this is my only true gripe at the moment. I go to dl an app and it stops at a random percentage, I go back into market and see the app is paused. I cancel and Redownload and usually works. I also get a timeout error almost every time I go into market and have to choose retry or close.
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Exactly, those are my experiences as well when on wifi with cell data not explicitly turned off.
UPDATE: Turns out that when factory resetting, the market app when first run works perfectly (doesn't try to activate cell data when on wifi). The problem is that the market app auto-updates to a version that has this problem.
Here's hoping for a fix soon. Thankfully Juice Defender gives me an automatic way to handle the cell data issue since when it detects it's on wifi, it turns off cell data so I don't have to.
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I posted an update in the original post. It seems Launcher Pro was the culprit.
How does the phone prioritize between Wifi and Mobile Data? Say you have both Wifi and Mobile Data turned on does the phone use Wifi if you have an active connection? Can I leave Mobile Data turned on and not worry about using up my data if connected to Wifi?
Noticed that I have no Mobile Data toggle in the quick toggle menu. Since I am on a limited Data plan I like to toggle it on and off. I did find the toggle in settings but that is annoying to get to.
I decided to try out Tasker to make a task when at these cell towers turn on Wifi and turn of Data. Turns out with Tasker you need to be root to turn off Mobile Data.
If you leave your data on, you will have battery drain and also more data tracking taking from you as well.
You don't need both on.
Any recommendations on being able to toggle Mobile Data on/off with out having to go into settings every time?
There are multiple settings you can use: Like WiFi preferred, or you can even prevent apps from using particular networks you specify, or block particular programs from network access all together. It may take some time in experimenting but there are many options to choose from.
Hello , i have similar problem, when is connected to wifi , dont disconect data, i see all trafic go to wifi, but the battery drain fast, and if i dont disconnect data manually charge is slow too!
I try many thing,reset network settings, wipe cache, include factory reset, and re flash the original firmware, but the problem persist, i was call samsung support and say, we have to repair it, but i buy the phone in usa and live in spain
Any solution for that?
Thanks in advance
It will always use WiFi if you're connected to WiFi. Battery life really shouldn't change at all since no mobile data is flowing through that connection, and even with mobile data off you're still connected to LTE, it just won't use it for data.
Go to the WiFi settings and make sure smart network switch it off, otherwise it will disconnect from weak WiFi and use data.
Yes smart network is off
Download booster off
On developer option, keep mobile data turned on is off too
I just factory reset again, with out any update or software , on the first reboot this issue happen again
Make me crazy!
Thanks in advance
Nicolas
By default your phone will use WiFi for data whenever WiFi is connected. You shouldn't have to manually disconnect mobile data.
If you want to be doubly sure, have your mobile data on and at the same time connect to a WiFi that is not connected to the internet. You will find that you will not be able to browse the internet, update any apps or do pretty much anything that requires the internet.
Yes i can manually disconnect data when is wifi connected
But is miss it, battery drain so fast
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Yes i can manually disconnect data when is wifi connected
But is miss it, battery drain so fast
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I see from your pic that mobile data icon is showing at the same time as your WiFi.
Perhaps you may want to reset your network settings.
You do this by: settings > general managment > reset > reset network settings
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Never mind, i see that you've tried this already a couple of post above.
I already do , also i do wipe data and cache, factory reset, and flash original firmware , and problem persist!