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Mystery Data Connection???

Hey,
I'm experiencing a strange problem with my hermes.
The device wakes up often without a reason. The effect is the following:
. device wakes up
. the connectivity icon changes from 3G to H, means HSDPA connection built up
. spb gprs monitor shows different amount of data transfers
If I close the data connection manually with the red hook on button, the effect doesnt appear any more. So I guess this in an inbound connection made to my device. But how can that be???
Does WM wakes up on inbound connections? How can I find out, which data is being transfered? Are there any network monitoring tools for WM?
Is it right, that to wake up the device from a program that makes an outbound connection an entry in the notification list has to exist? There is nothing. No notification that could wake up the device.
Need help!

Device seeks automatically the strongest signal around. If you stay in an area with both types of signal you will find frquent flipping in and out of 3g UMTS. You may not have experienced this but it can also lead to the dropping of calls also.
You can use Danielherrerro's bandswitch application aka commmgrpro that allows you to easily choose which bands to turn on off.
Mike

I think you misunderstood.
Chaning the band doesnt normaly lead to download traffic.
Btw. I selected gsm instead of gms & umts in the phone options, so the device cant switch. Still waking up and producing some traffic. This effect wasnt there til last week.

Mine does this because it checks for mail every 15 minutes, do you have mail scheduled???
good luck.
Oggy.

LaroCroft said:
I think you misunderstood.
Chaning the band doesnt normaly lead to download traffic.
Btw. I selected gsm instead of gms & umts in the phone options, so the device cant switch. Still waking up and producing some traffic. This effect wasnt there til last week.
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My bad. Ogier is right, it must be an app. that's connecting - possibles include:
Mail
Weather apps
Sync apps - time sync etc
Mike

Gprs Today Plugin
<seems like an 'in-topic' post>
anyone have any good suggestions on a today-plugin that shows wifi/gprs connection? My theme does not show the connection icon (3g,g,e,etc.), so I was looking for somethig that would show with conenction I was using as a today plugin. Something like the one shoen here in custels rom.
I would use spb gprs monitor, but for some reason all spb applications show this really annoying this line at the top of my screen, so I have given up on spb. any other ideas short of dumping custels ROM? thanks

Definitly dont think thats an application
Problem occurs only if a data connection is still active. If I disconnect manually no wake up occurs.
Seems device is waken up from an external source?!

How to make wifi the default option to connect instead of gprs?

How do I disable the phone from auto connecting to gprs? I tried testing it by launching opera without switching on wifi. The phone still connects through gprs although I turn data connection off. It will turn data connection on by itself. Even when I switch wifi on and want it to connect through wifi instead, it is still connecting through gprs. How do i solve this?

When wifi is "connected" (not only "on"), it uses wifi, no dataconnection.
If you really don't want a dataconnection, use something like NoData...

i tried NoData but it's not working. i'm using official htc wm6.5 rom.

Sorry I cannot be more precise because I don't use it anymore, but I remember there was an option to block data connection in HDTweak. Is that you want? Block dataconnection permanently? If so, you could alternatively delete your mobile operator connection in Settings/Connections. If anyone knows the registry changes involved in this,please post them so that I can make a .cab, I need it when roaming.

try MWLongLife! It's magic
this program is developed for saving battrey life by controlling 3G/2G network and data usage
you can set each program which need data access by 3G, WiFi, USB, etc.
Also, force to use Wifi rather than gprs if it's available.

Thanks for all of the suggestions. I tried installing nodata again and it worked this time.

for those interested there's also a cab to disable push internet completely (think that was the origin of your problem).
Search the forum on NoPushInternet

336663 said:
try MWLongLife! It's magic
this program is developed for saving battrey life by controlling 3G/2G network and data usage
you can set each program which need data access by 3G, WiFi, USB, etc.
Also, force to use Wifi rather than gprs if it's available.
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Any link to this? didn't find anything around

sualc said:
Any link to this? didn't find anything around
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Yes please... I was about to post the same issue. I think the precedence in WM6.5 of using mobile wireless over WiFi is the wrong way around if the WiFi signal is strong. In my house, my WiFi is strong everywhere but 3G comes and goes. It's darn annoying to get the message about "No connectivity" when I know for sure there is a very good WiFi signal.
Cheers, Rob.
PS. Just had it whilst writing this email - "Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device..."

It's "WM" not "MW".
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-wmlonglife.html

That's much better!! thanks fighter7139, gonna try right now!

3G vs WiFi

Hi,
My HD2 always takes the 3G connection by default rather than the WiFi. I have changed the connections to take work connection by default for internet and work and it stills uses my 3G.
Any thoughts?

TMODAlpha said:
Hi,
My HD2 always takes the 3G connection by default rather than the WiFi. I have changed the connections to take work connection by default for internet and work and it stills uses my 3G.
Any thoughts?
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From what I've seen, it appears to use the best connection that's available at the time of starting an app. So if you start Opera and then turn on wifi, it's already started its connection so it doesn't change it. Does that make sense?
Mine, without fail, uses wifi over 3G, as long as it's on and connected before I start an app.

TMODAlpha said:
Hi,
My HD2 always takes the 3G connection by default rather than the WiFi. I have changed the connections to take work connection by default for internet and work and it stills uses my 3G.
Any thoughts?
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The only application that starts the 3G connection over the Wi-Fi is Windows Live. At least to me. All other applications use the "cheaper" connection. Therefore, if Wi-Fi is switched on, it will use this connection.

I had exactly the same problem, by messing around in the Connections settings I managed to eventually sort it out though I can not remember exactly how, sorry I can not be of more help

That makes sense thanks guys. Also, if my 3G is disabled, it automatically connects it even if its using WiFi then continues to use WiFi.
Any ideas?

TMODAlpha said:
That makes sense thanks guys. Also, if my 3G is disabled, it automatically connects it even if its using WiFi then continues to use WiFi.
Any ideas?
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Use, for example, the NoData application from MoDaCo. There's also another one in this forum with a TouchFlo layout. If you disable the 3G connection, it will force to use the WiFi.

That did the trick mate, Thanks

Updates & Email using WiFi only?

Hey all,
I'm on my 3rd htc device and I should have asked this question ages ago!
With things like weather updates and emails is it possible to have them automatically update and download when I'm using WiFi without it trying to open a gprs connection at all other times?

I would also be interested because coming from a symbian phone I really dont like that the phone does not ask me which access point I want to use and that gprs connection is the primary one to use on win mo phone. Nokia is better for me from this point of view, you have to choose which access point to use and there is no way you surf on the net thinking you are on wifi while in reality you are using gprs.

As a former Symbian user, I must agree. 1 point for Symbian, and inexcusably lame for Windows Mobile. Let's hope that this is something that can be worked out in an update to 6.5.x while we wait....and wait.... and wait for WP7.

dan_t said:
With things like weather updates and emails is it possible to have them automatically update and download when I'm using WiFi without it trying to open a gprs connection at all other times?
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No, there's no way to force wifi. If wifi is connected it will use it, but if it hits the time where it's set to autoupdate, and no wifi is available, it will connect to gprs.

but... if you are in a WiFI area, but without data service, you are SOL, because it won't use the WiFi for the status updates, email, etc.
Pretty dumb, really.

use bsb tweak to disable all mobile data connections or use nodata program... then it wont be able to try to connect while its not on wifi... but u wont be able to use data connections either unless u enable them again

Of course it does use wifi if it's connected and no other connection is present... I'm doing that every day!
When I arrive home I turn on wifi, disconnect data if it was connected, and I can do all I want, it will use wifi and not try to connect data.

is there a way to auto-download once wifi or data connection is detected? my carrier charges me bigtime for every connection access and not by the minute oe data use.. so I just want everything to update automatically in 1 access without manually doing so for each..

kilrah said:
Of course it does use wifi if it's connected and no other connection is present... I'm doing that every day!
When I arrive home I turn on wifi, disconnect data if it was connected, and I can do all I want, it will use wifi and not try to connect data.
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If disable my data connection, and enable WiFI, and then choose the Weather tab and Update Now... nothing happens. It tries... it fails. Always has on every ROM I've used.
Does it not do this for you, for example?
If I reverse the process.... enable my data connection and disable WiFI.... choose Weather tab, and Update Now.... it works!
Why should such an integral part of the Homescreen UI be utterly and completely dependent on a data connection?
That's something I do not understand.

its working fine over wifi if i turn off data connection for me

Lake292 said:
its working fine over wifi if i turn off data connection for me
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You follow those steps, and it will update?
Any idea why it never has for me?
I've used
1.48 WWE (Stock)
1.66 WWE (Stock)
Dutty's HG v.08
Dutty's HG v.09
and it has never worked for me one time in this way.

donalgodon said:
If disable my data connection, and enable WiFI, and then choose the Weather tab and Update Now... nothing happens. It tries... it fails. Always has on every ROM I've used.
Does it not do this for you, for example?
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No, if I do that it works perfectly.
I'd say you have a connectivity problem with your Wifi.. does it work to browse then net in Opera? Wouldn't you use a proxy by any chance?

that's sometimes a problem of synchronization of your wifi router and your device (e.g. dhcp or timeout reconnect of your wifi router)
try this:
switch on router and then wifi on your device.
then start quickgps and try to update.if it fails, then try again quickgps.
if it works on second time then it's because of this synchronization...but update weather should work now by wifi.

kilrah said:
No, if I do that it works perfectly.
I'd say you have a connectivity problem with your Wifi.. does it work to browse then net in Opera? Wouldn't you use a proxy by any chance?
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Opera and every other connection works. I think it has something to do with my location. It could be that my ISP or my service provider is part of the problem.

Oh one thing I forgot:
In wifi options, advanced, network cards, network cards tab, make sure it's set that your network card connects to the Internet, not Work.
That could be it.

[Q] Auto Enable/Disable Data Connection

Hello, few days ago I megrated from WM6 to Android in my HD2: everything is so better and it works very good, excpet the data connection settings!
In WM6 I installed a tweak (Montecristoff), and it turned my connection on/off just when I opened/closed internet or other apps.
Now I have the connection ALWAYS or NEVER...everytime I need to send mms, open market or internet, first I have to turn on the H/3G and then open the app I wanna use!
I'm searching an app that gaves me the connection automatically when I need, but when I stop to use, that app has to close the connection after few seconds!
I tried with JuiceDefender but it doesn't work like I want!
Please help me!

I try to explain it better:
I need an app for Android that allow my data connection just when I request, for example when I use Internet, Meteo, Market and so on...the rest of time data connection has to be down!
JuiceDefender does it, but not like I want...when the display is black, the data connection is off, but it's ok when I turn on the display...but I don't want this...I want that my data connection starts just lunching specific apps!
Thank you!