Just thought I'd throw this out there...(Epson / Nova) - EVO 4G General

Just a PM response, but I figured I'd just post it to the public...ive been thinking about this for a while now...
colors on NOVATEK are horribly wrong... I think they might be the AMOLED screens that HTC had originally announced the phone with... Then they noticed the color issue with the new AMOLED technologies and reverted to the EPSONs.

Tilde88 said:
Just a PM response, but I figured I'd just post it to the public...ive been thinking about this for a while now...
colors on NOVATEK are horribly wrong... I think they might be the AMOLED screens that HTC had originally announced the phone with... Then they noticed the color issue with the new AMOLED technologies and reverted to the EPSONs.
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excuse my ignorance, but this is like hearing one end of a phone conversation for a very brief moment. care to provide some more context and detail?
don't mean to sound rude.. i'm honestly curious.

Tilde88 said:
colors on NOVATEK are horribly wrong... .
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Maybe it's just me, but I have a NOVA and my brother has an Epson and the difference is negligible if any compared side by side. I guess we are just color blind and don't know it.

Tilde88 said:
Just a PM response, but I figured I'd just post it to the public...ive been thinking about this for a while now...
colors on NOVATEK are horribly wrong... I think they might be the AMOLED screens that HTC had originally announced the phone with... Then they noticed the color issue with the new AMOLED technologies and reverted to the EPSONs.
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Neither Novatek or Epson make AMOLED panels (only Samsung and LG) and if it was an AMOLED screen it would be noticeably better

trentlythp said:
Maybe it's just me, but I have a NOVA and my brother has an Epson and the difference is negligible if any compared side by side. I guess we are just color blind and don't know it.
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lol then you have eye problems... i held my NOVA0002 next to my EPS0003 and i tell you, nova is this color --><<--- where its supposed to be black... put the default sense black background on... youll see
and it was about my exchaning my phone due to the screen grounding issue...
also thanks for the Samsung LG comment... I dont think its impossible that what I said could be true

Tilde, you're cool. End of story.
This thread is pointless. Close please!
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The new phones have nova panels last I checked so they didn't switch anything to epson. If anything they ran both as tests and picked nova for whatever reason.

Tilde88 said:
lol then you have eye problems... i held my NOVA0002 next to my EPS0003 and i tell you, nova is this color --><<--- where its supposed to be black... put the default sense black background on... youll see
and it was about my exchaning my phone due to the screen grounding issue...
also thanks for the Samsung LG comment... I dont think its impossible that what I said could be true
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Mine is Novatek and black levels are amazing. Color quality is good as well. I have seen Evos with the purple tint though. I just don't think it matters what screen type it is.

akarol said:
Tilde, you're cool. End of story.
This thread is pointless. Close please!
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thank you for the constructive feedback.
engagedtosmile said:
Mine is Novatek and black levels are amazing. Color quality is good as well. I have seen Evos with the purple tint though. I just don't think it matters what screen type it is.
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very interesting... i thought all novateks would have the hue discoloration... perhaps its something that will soon be hacked out... either way, im happy with my epson

I have a related question.
I actually have a 0003, with the Nova screen. Is there a difference between the 0002 and 0003 models with the Nova screen?

Tilde do you have a 002 nova?
My 003 nova looks quite good
Swyped from my Evo 4G

I like the vibrancy of the Novateks over the Epsons anytime. Whether there is a pinkish hue or not is only distinguishable when setting it side-by-side with another device as your eyes are constantly adjusting the white balance to the brightness color you see. Therefore, the hue goes unnoticed most of the time anyways.
BTW, both screens are definitely not AMOLED. I wish Novas were 'cause then I'd be using the red tone tweak and would be saving 42% of battery life as it's been tested with the Nexus Ones.

I have a google io 0002 novatec and have compared it to a 0003 novatec and mine is noticeably brighter and more vibrant than the other one at full brightness. i do detect a cooler color temperature but it's only noticeable in contrast with a screen with a warmer temp. who is to say either one is incorrect? they both appear color accurate individually

My cousin darrell told my other cousin darrell that my first cousin darrell that his face kinda red. Figured it was from being in the sun a little longer then he aught to have been in it. But to be honest wit cha i reckon i wouldn't have noticed if darrell hadn't said nuffin. Its a little red but ain't too red i reckon.
Its like that little ding in your car door. It's small until someone points it out to you. Then all of a sudden WOW it got bigger magically.
The Nova panels are fine. Flash some ROMs or read a book.
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mrmomoman said:
My cousin darrell told my other cousin darrell that my first cousin darrell that his face kinda red. Figured it was from being in the sun a little longer then he aught to have been in it. But to be honest wit cha i reckon i wouldn't have noticed if darrell hadn't said nuffin. Its a little red but ain't too red i reckon.
Its like that little ding in your car door. It's small until someone points it out to you. Then all of a sudden WOW it got bigger magically.
The Nova panels are fine. Flash some ROMs or read a book.
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Dang, wish I could +1 your post...LOL.

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ok people back on topic and stop the name calling/flaming/bashing of others. this isnt the place for it. if u do not have something to contribute dont post.

Tilde88 said:
Just a PM response, but I figured I'd just post it to the public...ive been thinking about this for a while now...
colors on NOVATEK are horribly wrong... I think they might be the AMOLED screens that HTC had originally announced the phone with... Then they noticed the color issue with the new AMOLED technologies and reverted to the EPSONs.
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Bad info....I have a Novatec/Novatek screen. It is definitely LCD. My colors are beautiful

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Bad info....I have a Novatec/Novatek screen. It is definitely LCD. My colors are beautiful
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i was going to say the same thing.. now the samsung moment, the colors on that screen are all jacked up.. but thats for another section in the forums!

love my 0002 NOVA. the screen is stunning and no matter how much I try to find flaws in it , I can't

I have a Nova and an Epson on hand right now and i prefer the Nova to be honest. The colors seem richer and not washed out.

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Just got my 003 Evo!

Returned my 002 Evo to the horrible radioshack and went to bestbuy mobile and bought myself a new Evo.
Things I've noticed at first glance. The epson screen and the battery cover. The screen is noticeably much more vivid and brighter. The matte cover on the back has a great finish and feels like a Nintendo DSi. No more light leakage!!! Woot! And odd but the power button responds much smoother and feels a lot better when pressed down.
Also some info I got from the reps there were that Sprint is going to put out another update to fix the 30 fps limit. Great news and I played around with the black and white demo evo. It has a GLOSSY finish which totally turns the phone off to me, because of finger prints and it looks incredibly ugly in my opinion.
I checked the firmware on my evo and it's still 1.32.651.6! I can still root my phone!
DT10.06.17 is my build date.
This is the Evo I should've received during the launch date. This phone is incredible!
Edit: After playing with the phone today, the speaker is much louder & the call quality is much clearer and louder than my 002.
Yay for you.
I too am still on old version...but wonder how can we get to any new updates if they all locked like new OTA. Hope this only means (yay devs) that we just have to wait a little longer between updates to get new stuff.
That 30fps fix would be nice to see...but store reps lie like rugs. (Oh wait, did I say that outloud?)
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The epson screen ... is noticeably much more vivid and brighter.
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Huh?
I thought it was the other way around?
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Huh?
I thought it was the other way around?
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I had launch day 002 and had to swap my OTA bricked EVO and IMO the new screen is waaaay better.
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Huh?
I thought it was the other way around?
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The Epson screen is higher quality than the Nova.
EtherealRemnant said:
The Epson screen is higher quality than the Nova.
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I've seen this stated both ways on this message board. I think that it comes down to preference.
There's no way that the Epson screen is brighter than the Nova. Might yield more accurate colors, but out of the thousands of reports, the Nova is much brighter always. Are you sure you have an Epson screen? Not all 003s are Epson (as it's my case). I'll only believe it when I see pictures.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.
kellte2 said:
I've seen this stated both ways on this message board. I think that it comes down to preference.
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Yes, this statement is correct. However Epson has truer blacks without purlish hints
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Huh?
I thought it was the other way around?
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Epson: Better quality, not as bright.
Nova: Purple tent, brighter.
Or that's how I would put it.
Why are so many people thinking that if its 003 its Epson? I got a build date of Jun 16 and its Novatec. So they know the problem exist and they keep sending phones with Nova. I think there is something else involved in there.
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I checked the firmware on my evo and it's still 1.32.651.6! I can still root my phone!
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Thank god I'm buddy's with the radio shack guy, he's getting me a new one even though I kinda don't even need one. So he will not update it if I ask him to not update it....I'm just not sure which screen I prefer. I love the Nova screen, I just can't imagine a screen looking much better. If the Epson isn't as bright that kinda sucks, though more accurate colors do sound good...and then there is the issue of the 30fps thing. The hack we have currently works out awesome on my Nova...I wouldn't want massive tearing, however if they do address the bug then it is a moot point.
Buuuut I don't think that they are ever going to. I might just turn down the new one and deal with my slight light leak and very very minor screen lifting. It hasn't gotten any worse in 2 weeks.
Hmm, decisions decisions....
There is that "fix" for screen separation that involves a hair dryer. I've been wanting to try it as people who have done it say it works. Plus people with N1's said they had the same problem and the hair dryer "fix" does the trick.
A quick way to tell which screen you have is with the "Power Control Widget" If you cycle through the brightness settings and it instantly changes you have a Epson, if it fades in and out for each change you have a Nova. At least that's what I have been reading in the forums.
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Huh?
I thought it was the other way around?
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MikeBrWade said:
A quick way to tell which screen you have is with the "Power Control Widget" If you cycle through the brightness settings and it instantly changes you have a Epson, if it fades in and out for each change you have a Nova. At least that's what I have been reading in the forums.
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Instant brightness change. I also compared it to my GF's launch day 002 and they are hugely different in screen colour/sharpness.
Hm true it's not as bright as the nova only difference is in direct sunlight, BUT the colors are much more vivid and yes I do have a epson. Tried the power control widget and my screen doesn't fade like it use to, it changes the difference in a split second. My build date for the phone is not bad either. DT10.06.17.

What color tint does your screen have? Blue, Yellow or Neutral?

In conjunction to the post, "blue tint problem," which isn't really a problem but anyway....
I thought it'd be interesting to create a poll to see where everyone's at with their Vibrants.
Please participate in the poll, it'll be very interesting to see...
So if you're on the blue side or yellow side, obviously submit yours accordingly, however, for neutral that's for those who have calibrated monitors that can get true comparisons to determine if it's neutral.
There's no need to lie here LOL..it's just for fun so the more accurate it is the better. Don't just click neutral if you don't really know for sure. Try comparing your phone first with other Vibrants to be sure.
Here we go!
It's slight blue, but related to viewing angle and screen brightness. Viewing straight on, it's pretty neutral.
OolonColuphid said:
It's slight blue, but related to viewing angle and screen brightness. Viewing straight on, it's pretty neutral.
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I know what you mean. Could the SAMOLED screen perhaps slightly change in its color tone as it warms up?
When I fired up the two Vibrants I have that was turned on for the first time and compared it to my other two which has been in use, the two never been used phones screen looked identical in its tone/shade.
So perhaps over time it does change as it, "breaks in?"
Does anyone know if this blue tint will get better with time? Mine seems to be the same, wondering if I should exchange my phone.
Well, mine is more cyan, though I can understand people calling it blue and it's driving me crazy. Even with brightness all the way up, there is no real white. This issue will likely cause me to return my Vibrant - along with the cheap build quality - as my Nexus screen looks much better and neutral in comparison. Even my wife noticed it immediately though she also has a Nexus.
Neutral, I've compared with monitors and other Vibrants from my T-Mobile store.
The blue should fade over time..sometimes they put in a bit of extra blue to compensate the blue's lower life span..if you want to even it out use a blue background as your home screen for a while and it should even out >.>
gTen said:
The blue should fade over time..sometimes they put in a bit of extra blue to compensate the blue's lower life span..if you want to even it out use a blue background as your home screen for a while and it should even out >.>
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Are you sure it will fade? Where did you get that info from, I know wikipedia talks about this and says the same thing, but wikipedia is not really that accurate. Where did you get your info?
I downladed an LCD test app from market, i'm running a constanst blue screen hoping it will help fade out the blue tint a bit. thanks
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Are you sure it will fade? Where did you get that info from, I know wikipedia talks about this and says the same thing, but wikipedia is not really that accurate. Where did you get your info?
I downladed an LCD test app from market, i'm running a constanst blue screen hoping it will help fade out the blue tint a bit. thanks
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When compared to mine my wife's had a very strong blue tint to it. Since I ordered ours over the phone I called Tmobile. They overnighted me a replacement without any hassle, I'd give them a call and see what they will do for you.
posted this in the other "blue tint" thread too
"...since the OLED material used to produce blue light degrades significantly more rapidly than the materials that produce other colors, blue light output will decrease relative to the other colors of light...In order to delay the problem, manufacturers bias the colour balance towards blue so that the display initially has an artificially blue tint, leading to complaints of artificial-looking, over-saturated colors..."
temperbad said:
I know im gonna get flamed for this and Im prepared, but this has got to be the stupidest thread I have ever seen. Lmfaoooo OPS Pics are halarious, you can barely see the difference. I dont know seems like nit picking to me.. Im sure someone will say I paid 500 for this and it should be how I want it.. Well, then wait till its been out a few weeks first and find out the issues, and if a slight, slight barely noticed Blue tint was a issue and it bugs you, dont get the phone.
That easy. But wow, Im still laughing at this... Crazy funny, let me guess, the silver aound the edges blinds you in sun from the reflection?
Flame away, but I say common...lol GOOD day all and enjoy this phone.... Guess what, your next phone will have some wierd things too, nothing is perfect like some of you are expecting...
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Thats what im saying, i mean in all honesty you can barely tell, maybe they upped the blue output so that when everyone plaed avatar for the first itme on thre phones ppl were like damn the blues looks so good.....
I agree, stupidest topic ever. I thought I seena blue tint but now its gone. And as fast as the nexus screen looking nicer...my friend had his over the other day and it looks dull compared to the vibrant.
I guess if your imagining a blue tint, or don't know how to change screen settings them maybe you need a less advanced device.
PJcastaldo said:
I agree, stupidest topic ever. I thought I seena blue tint but now its gone. And as fast as the nexus screen looking nicer...my friend had his over the other day and it looks dull compared to the vibrant.
I guess if your imagining a blue tint, or don't know how to change screen settings them maybe you need a less advanced device.
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I guess if you did not receive a defective Vibrant with an extremely blue screen, even with brightness all the way up and power saving mode off, your not qualified to speak for those who did. Of course it would not make sense to you.
i dont know about you guys but every time Ive ever seen a white LED its always had a blueish tint (like automotive LED's) its really not that big of an issue
My display was noticeably blue the moment I turned it on... going to the T-Mobile store today to see if I can get a better unit with a more neutral color temperature.
temperbad said:
I know im gonna get flamed for this and Im prepared, but this has got to be the stupidest thread I have ever seen.
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It matters to some people more than others. If it doesn't bother you then great. It's not really fair to criticize people who are bothered by it--one should have a reasonable expectation for color accuracy of their display, especially for a device so touted as being a multimedia powerhouse.
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I see the ops pics, maybe the problem is your guys' eyes and ya should get them checked... I can barely tell the diff and I got perfect vision....
I stand by my statement .... dumbest topic ever.....
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I'm a graphic designer. I work with colors for a living every day. I've come to think that I have a pretty decent grasp of color.
Like I said, if you can't tell or it doesn't bother you or your handset isn't afflicted--great! But please don't dismiss the complaints of others simply because you "can barely tell the diff". ****
I have that issue with the blue screen and for some reason I'm the only one who sees it, I work for T-Mobile and I was showing my co-workers that there is a blue tint to the screen and they didn't see it it until I compared it to another phone. I'm also a graphic artist and I guess we see colors that others don't notice cuss we have too that's what we do. I also had a issue with the screen, there was some pixelation on my screen so I exchanged it.
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I have that issue with the blue screen and for some reason I'm the only one who sees it, I work for T-Mobile and I was showing my co-workers that there is a blue tint to the screen and they didn't see it it until I compared it to another phone. I'm also a graphic artist and I guess we see colors that others don't notice cuss we have too that's what we do. I also had a issue with the screen, there was some pixelation on my screen so I exchanged it.
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You know, some people here say every Super Amoled has a blue tint. I have to disagree. I've been comparing my vibrant side by side to other vibrants, and the screens vary from phone to phone. Samsung deffinately has some manufacturing inconsistences. Side by side to other Vibrants, my screen has a very visible dark grayish blue tint. Other vibrants have a slight blue/green tint. While other vibrants i've compared to have gorgeus warm whites. 1 vibrant had a very dingy yellow look to all the whites. So this is not in our imagination, the screens vary a lot on these phones.
My cousin just got the vibrant this morning, she had not seen mine. She saw mine this morning and says "why is your screen blue?" Put mine side by side next to hers, and hers has nice warm bright whites. All of our brightness settings were identical.
I'll be exchanging shortly when I have time.
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I have that issue with the blue screen and for some reason I'm the only one who sees it, I work for T-Mobile and I was showing my co-workers that there is a blue tint to the screen and they didn't see it it until I compared it to another phone. I'm also a graphic artist and I guess we see colors that others don't notice cuss we have too that's what we do. I also had a issue with the screen, there was some pixelation on my screen so I exchanged it.
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So, does your replacement still show the blue screen tint?

Better screen in newer Vibrants?

So I have had my vibrant since the beginning. I just got my wife one and the weird thing is her screen is so much better than mine. Her screen does not have the greyish look in white colors. Its very bright and white. I have compared with brightness levels the same and on different roms with the same effect. The new vibrants screen looks so much better.
Sent from a Galaxy S far....far....away.
its the same...
happened to me yesterday when i got a new one as well..
A guy told me..
that it was because the stock kernel isn't trying to save battery, while the custom kernels you flash are saving battery so they lower their contrast, brightness etc.
Where as Stock kernels go full-out with everything at maximum
Hope i answered your question.
NO, newer Vibrant's don't have better screens. This is an old issue.
jbatysmallville said:
So I have had my vibrant since the beginning. I just got my wife one and the weird thing is her screen is so much better than mine. Her screen does not have the greyish look in white colors. Its very bright and white. I have compared with brightness levels the same and on different roms with the same effect. The new vibrants screen looks so much better.
Has anyone else noticed this? Do the newer vibrants have a better screen?
Sent from a Galaxy S far....far....away.
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Ok this is an old issue. Newer Vibrants do not have better screens.
No two Vibrant screens are alike.
From it's release date, every single Vibrant was like a box of chocolates, you never knew what tint your display would be.
Some vibrants come with blue tint, others with grey, some yellow, some red, some brown.
It is a quality control issue and has nothing to do with the manufacture date.
Some links for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733344
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732247
http://androidforums.com/captivate-...r-amoled-blue-tint-screen-no-true-whites.html
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/3464-blue-tint/
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-epic-4g/35568-blue-tint-screen.html
http://android.bigresource.com/Samsung-Captivate-Super-Amoled-Blue-Tint-on-Screen-9YDGZWDH5.html
There are many more links about tint issues with super amoled. Like I said, no two screens are alike, and trying to get a replacement might get you one with an even uglier tint.
SamsungVibrant said:
Ok this is an old issue. Newer Vibrants DO NOT have better screens.
NO TWO Vibrant screens are alike.
From it's release date, every single Vibrant was like a box of chocolates, you never knew what tint your display would be.
Some vibrants come with blue tint, others with grey, some yellow, some red, some brown.
It is a quality control issue and has nothing to do with the manufacture date.
Some links for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733344
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732247
http://androidforums.com/captivate-...r-amoled-blue-tint-screen-no-true-whites.html
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/3464-blue-tint/
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-epic-4g/35568-blue-tint-screen.html
http://android.bigresource.com/Samsung-Captivate-Super-Amoled-Blue-Tint-on-Screen-9YDGZWDH5.html
There are many more links about tint issues with super amoled. Like I said, no two screens are alike, and trying to get a replacement might get you one with an even uglier tint.
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Really? Never knew about this..
I notice no tint on my screen, even if its compared to my brothers...
Hmm.. Yes his screen does seem a bit different but not much its not the color but the brightness hes always at max... so it looks brighter... hmmm
interesting.
If it looks brighter at the same brightness settings, its probably because you have the power saving box checked in display while she doesn't. I thought the same thing when I compared to my friend's new vibrant, but after I unchecked the box it looked the same.
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SamsungVibrant said:
Ok this is an old issue. Newer Vibrants DO NOT have better screens.
NO TWO Vibrant screens are alike.
From it's release date, every single Vibrant was like a box of chocolates, you never knew what tint your display would be.
Some vibrants come with blue tint, others with grey, some yellow, some red, some brown.
It is a quality control issue and has nothing to do with the manufacture date.
Some links for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733344
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732247
http://androidforums.com/captivate-...r-amoled-blue-tint-screen-no-true-whites.html
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/3464-blue-tint/
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-epic-4g/35568-blue-tint-screen.html
http://android.bigresource.com/Samsung-Captivate-Super-Amoled-Blue-Tint-on-Screen-9YDGZWDH5.html
There are many more links about tint issues with super amoled. Like I said, no two screens are alike, and trying to get a replacement might get you one with an even uglier tint.
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First of all dont treat me like I am a noob. I have been on the forums years longer than almost everyone here. Second all of the settings are exactly the same. Same roms and so on. 3rd I never talked about getting a replacement, I am just fine with the one I have so dont EVEN bring this up. I will be buying a 3rd vibrant next week for my daughter and I will see how that one compares. If it is a new model and is just as bright as my wifes then I will think that something has changed. Amoled or not there is no reason why there will be so many differences as you have stated. Here is a thought for you: Is everyones eyes the same.....NOPE. Every person sees colors completely different, no two are the same. I am not going by what other people think I am basing my opinion with my eyes and soon to be 3 different vibrant phones.
Noob... nice op.
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Noob... nice op.
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Thanks.....
xriderx66 said:
its the same...
happened to me yesterday when i got a new one as well..
A guy told me..
that it was because the stock kernel isn't trying to save battery, while the custom kernels you flash are saving battery so they lower their contrast, brightness etc.
Where as Stock kernels go full-out with everything at maximum
Hope i answered your question.
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Thats was I was leaning towards but then I installed the same Rom on it as mine with the exact same settings and it still looks so much better. I almost gave my wife my phone. Lol.
jbatysmallville said:
First of all dont treat me like I am a noob. I have been on the forums years longer than almost everyone here. Second all of the settings are exactly the same. Same roms and so on. 3rd I never talked about getting a replacement, I am just fine with the one I have so dont EVEN bring this up. I will be buying a 3rd vibrant next week for my daughter and I will see how that one compares. If it is a new model and is just as bright as my wifes then I will think that something has changed. Amoled or not there is no reason why there will be so many differences as you have stated. Here is a thought for you: Is everyones eyes the same.....NOPE. Every person sees colors completely different, no two are the same. I am not going by what other people think I am basing my opinion with my eyes and soon to be 3 different vibrant phones.
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I saw nothing in his post that should have made you feel attacked. He answered your question. Isn't that why you started this thread?
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I saw nothing in his post that should have made you feel attacked. He answered your question. Isn't that why you started this thread?
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I did not feel attacked but the attitude with the remarks in caps was uncalled for. And yes this is why I started the thread. Tell me what you think and I will be appreciative........ just don't throw it in my face.
Mods....... Please close this thread. I should have kept my opinion to myself. Thanks
jbatysmallville said:
I did not feel attacked but the attitude with the remarks in caps was uncalled for. And yes this is why I started the thread. Tell me what you think and I will be appreciative........ just don't throw it in my face.
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I'm sorry you felt I was giving you attitude with the caps, that wasn't my intent.
I apologize if it came off that way, I was just trying to answer your question and offer some feedback.
I'll change the caps to lower case because I wasn't trying to scream, was just trying to set your mind at ease that your phone is fine.
SamsungVibrant said:
I'm sorry you felt I was giving you attitude with the caps, that wasn't my intent.
I apologize if it came off that way, I was just trying to answer your question and offer some feedback.
I'll change the caps to lower case because I wasn't trying to scream, was just trying to set your mind at ease that your phone is fine.
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Thank you. I appreciate your apology.
jbatysmallville said:
Thank you. I appreciate your apology.
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Couple of things...... One, alot of the people on this forum really do not understand writing etiquette...... I agree actually with you, it very hard to interpret some of the writing as neutral when (intentionally or not) they are couched in sarcasm and innuendo. Now that I got that off my chest........
The Amoled screens, when they were making them in May-Sept, there was a huge shortage because of lack of manufacturing capacity. As a result, alot of the q/c was suspect. Mostly because they did not go the full 100%. Added to that there are limitations in the process (since effectively they are grown (the amoled)and so it is a slower process. Samsung oversold their phones and in June had to start building a 2.1 Billion manufacturing Amoled facility.
Anyway, all this background to say YES the new amoled are of a better quality, I have noticed it as well I got a vibrant for my wife in December and it is a nicer screen view for sure.
Hope that helps
Negative wait til the screen settles in a bit my friend got A 4g and my phone and his ended up looking the same
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Differences between NS 4G and plain ol NS

Besides the obvious, the most noticeable things are the capacitive buttons on the 4G seems to be about half as bright and the screen is cooler. Also when viewing the screen, shifting it off axis will cause the screen to give it a more bluish hue, similar to how on an LCD colors will shift.
Oh and I also notice some vertical banding. Maybe the one I got is bad... anyone else notice any differences?
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Besides the obvious, the most noticeable things are the capacitive buttons on the 4G seems to be about half as bright and the screen is cooler. Also when viewing the screen, shifting it off axis will cause the screen to give it a more bluish hue, similar to how on an LCD colors will shift.
Oh and I also notice some vertical banding. Maybe the one I got is bad... anyone else notice any differences?
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Yikes. Display should be exactly the same.
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Yikes. Display should be exactly the same.
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That's what I thought.... but the screen on the 4G I have is definitely a different hue. The thing that's weird is how the colors shift when viewed off axis.
i noticed the color shift but thought it was normal/due to the 2.3.3 color update
Does the NS 4G come with a AMOLED or LCD screen?
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I just Jumped on board with my 4G you guys notice that wifi hot spot is active?
Man I'm just trying to get used to this after my Epic.
A quick point in the right direction to get into recovery to do a back up before I start anything would be appreciated.
Thanx
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Does the NS 4G come with a AMOLED or LCD screen?
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It is Amoled I cant find anything stating if it has Gorilla Glass as our Epics did. That was a secure feeling not worrying bout scratching the glass
No Gorilla Glass none of the nexus s have them
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i noticed the color shift but thought it was normal/due to the 2.3.3 color update
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I have NS with 3.4 and a NS 4G, and that also has 3.4 out of the box... definite color change... it looks washed out actually.
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I have NS with 3.4 and a NS 4G, and that also has 3.4 out of the box... definite color change... it looks washed out actually.
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Probably a software thing, when we get CM7 we should be able to change the color settings more... it is definitely different than the Evo LOL, very blue
Voodoo sound isn't working on ns4g. Is it working on ns? Yeah I know, contact the dev... just asking
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Probably a software thing, when we get CM7 we should be able to change the color settings more... it is definitely different than the Evo LOL, very blue
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I dont think its a software thing. When I look at my NS 4G off axis the color shifts to a greenish hue. There isn't an off axis color shift on my regular NS.

How do I know if my Screen is bad?

This is my first time with an AMOLED screen and I keep reading things about tints and such with the screen. I don't see any colored tints yet though I'm still waiting on my Sim card to really use it, just set it up ahead of time. I did notice though that when I compared it to my Nexus 5 the whites on my N6P look kinda off white. I'm not sure if that's normal or not?
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This is my first time with an AMOLED screen and I keep reading things about tints and such with the screen. I don't see any colored tints yet though I'm still waiting on my Sim card to really use it, just set it up ahead of time. I did notice though that when I compared it to my Nexus 5 the whites on my N6P look kinda off white. I'm not sure if that's normal or not?
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If the tint of the screen is uneven or there is an excessive yellow tint then the screen is duff. Have a look in the "pink hue" thread in the Q&A section and there's pics of the uneven green/pink tints. If you don't see any and you like the screen then there's no issue. At the end of the day, it's your perspective of whether or not you have a problem.
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If it looks fine your screen is fine. Don't psych yourself out reading all those posts. Most of those people are crazy
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This is my first time with an AMOLED screen and I keep reading things about tints and such with the screen. I don't see any colored tints yet though I'm still waiting on my Sim card to really use it, just set it up ahead of time. I did notice though that when I compared it to my Nexus 5 the whites on my N6P look kinda off white. I'm not sure if that's normal or not?
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If you don't see anything wrong with it why are you going to go looking for something wrong?
Really. I have this ever so slight purplish/pinkish thing on the right that doesn't seem to be there all the time. Literally the only time I ever see it again is when I'm in these forums and someone reminds me to start looking for it with a post about it. Seriously.
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If you can't see a problem with the screen by looking at it then you're fine. Don't go looking for issues with something because you'll psych yourself into thinking something is wrong when nothing is wrong. . I use to be the same way trust me. Just enjoy a great phone with a really good dev community..
I was just asking if the whites not looking pure white was normal. I said I don't see any colorish tint but I posted this cause I have no experience with AMOLED and didn't know if that was normal for this type of screen or not. I'm not looking for issues its just a question.
Is there an app to test for tint?
There's considerable variability in the white point of AMOLED displays due to the manufacturing process. Each one is a little different. Hey, it's "organic", right? Seems like they should be able to calibrate that at the factory, but apparently not. If you send it back and get another one, it might look whiter, or it might not. It should look reasonably uniform, and reasonably white. If you think it's unacceptable, send it back.
If you're worried that it might not be exactly 6000 Kelvins, then you should seek therapy.
Back in the Galaxy Nexus days, I saw one that was very pink, one very yellow, and one that was just right (mine!).
So I got a replacement cause I felt the screen had a tint.. Here is the comparison pics... The one on the left is the replacement. Think the difference is clear.
Just out of curiosity, how are the perfectionists claiming the screen should look? Mine is like the left image, and I'm happy with it.
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Just out of curiosity, how are the perfectionists claiming the screen should look? Mine is like the left image, and I'm happy with it.
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The screen should have an even tint all the way across it. Both of the screens in the pic change from a pink to a green/blue tint.
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TheReverend210 said:
Just out of curiosity, how are the perfectionists claiming the screen should look? Mine is like the left image, and I'm happy with it.
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As long as your happy, thats what matters.
I admit I have OCD when it comes to electronics. Got an RMA with a screen that works for me, so I am happily enjoying my phone. :victory:
Got get over it at some point.
Call me crazy but I can deal with the uneven tint. Hell, as I was taking the pics I didn't even notice it, although I probably will now lol but what bugged me and made me RMA was the solid film which looks like a yellowish tint that dulled whites and kinda the screen as a whole. I'm happy with the replacement even if its not perfect
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So I got a replacement cause I felt the screen had a tint.. Here is the comparison pics... The one on the left is the replacement. Think the difference is clear.
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The replacement device on the left looks worse than the 'defective device' but they're both bad if I'm honest. RMA again buddy.
I just checked with my mate's 6P and mine and mine was brighter than his and he noticed this. His display was less warm too but a bit on the grey side. Both panels had an even color finish, unlike your samples mate.
Here's mine at lowest brightness. Not sure if its "perfect" or not but seems fine to me.
subhani said:
The replacement device on the left looks worse than the 'defective device' but they're both bad if I'm honest. RMA again buddy.
I just checked with my mate's 6P and mine and mine was brighter than his and he noticed this. His display was less warm too but a bit on the grey side. Both panels had an even color finish, unlike your samples mate.
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Think I'm gonna keep the replacement actually.. Still got a year to get another replacement anyway..
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So I got a replacement cause I felt the screen had a tint.. Here is the comparison pics... The one on the left is the replacement. Think the difference is clear.
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I think the one on the right looks more even.
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