Question about Tethering (on Bell) with the Legend - Legend General

I'm helping someone pick out a phone, and Bell in Canada has recently got the Legend on their network. It seems like a nice android device (there are better, but not on Bell, which is all we have in our city), and it's not too expensive.
The question I have.. If we install a tethering application (wired or wireless) will Bell know it's being tethered and charge more? Or will it just be treated as data?
Thanks in advance.

virgin mobile is owned by bell, runs on the same network and also has the legend.
if you have a plan with more then 500 mb of data on it (which is your basic smart phone plan in most cases) they allow tethering.
however it is quite easy to blow through 500mb browsing the full web on a pc

Yep! Good point.
My company in Spain does not allow tethering by contract, but I realized that they actually do not differentiate from normal phone use and tethering.
You can check if you can see your consumption in the web of you company. That what i did, and confirmed they do not see the difference. I do not really know if can see the difference from a technical point of view.
Some not unbranded Legends do not have the option to use USB tethering, as unbranded Legends have. So, I guess they really can not. : ?

kylecore said:
virgin mobile is owned by bell, runs on the same network and also has the legend.
if you have a plan with more then 500 mb of data on it (which is your basic smart phone plan in most cases) they allow tethering.
however it is quite easy to blow through 500mb browsing the full web on a pc
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Yeah, if you are going to tether, you MUST use Opera with the "Turbo" function ON. It will save a lot of bandwidth, but it won't help if you are downloading torrents or watching a lot of video.
Use tethering wisely.

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So who's working on the tether app?

We all need it. Which one of you geniuses are going to write the tether app?
If we can ssh in we could just set up a proxy thru putty/SSH. Simple solution for now but an "internet Sharing" app would be nice. I am not much of a programmer but I love to play with Linux and I am hoping that I can make some c apps work.... like mplayer
Yes! most def!
If I can't tether, i'm buying a crappy sony phone from Tmobile for 3G / modem for my laptop. (if it'll work)
ok.... so does anyone have any ideas? The Wireless API doesn't seem to have support for AP mode so would we have to put our laptops into AP mode or carry a router with us everywhere? If it can be put into AP mode then we need to find out if the kernel will have iptables support. Can we run shell scripts in the Java? I can't find anything on the USB port and the Bluetooth API was removed from the SDK. I would love to see this work but without a connection to the PC I don't see how. Once we get a PC connection it should be fairly easy to make this work.
aad4321 said:
Im kind of afraid of this opensouce thing. I hope people dont take advantage of it and charge people a rediculous amount of money to use a simple app they have made. (like the iphone). This is ony of the reasons why i like windows mobile so much is because of all of the free apps available
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The reason winmo has so many apps available is because it's been around for a long time. Just having a lot of stuff doesn't mean it has a lot of *good* stuff. Having 1000 notepad applications that don't do what you like isn't really a good situation.
Android is relatively new. But the ease with which someone can become a developer for the platform is definitely a plus for future software coming very quickly. An Android developer can readily download all the equipment necessary to make an Android app for free in a few minutes. If he or she already knows java, it's that much easier.
I imagine that marketplace will be just like it is for other platforms. Many developers who are already open-source-oriented will definitely release their applications for free. Many others will charge just a small amount because they know they can't make a return on exorbitant fees. Also, despite the bad press they've gotten, Google's philosophy is still "do no evil." I don't think they'd let a dev gouge the community. All these factors make the Android philosophy automatically better than the Apple model.
hiimcliff said:
We all need it. Which one of you geniuses are going to write the tether app?
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Hah, considering T-Mobile will limit your speeds as low as 50kbps if you use too much bandwidth, I don't think tethering is a great idea. You'll make it like 10 days with 3G speeds and then have dial-up speeds from then on.
they removed the 1gb cap and are doing it based off of usage. I use tethering on my Mogul with sprint and barely use 3gb in a month, with downloading stuff plus WoW and browsing alot. But it's not a tethering app for the G1 remember. Yes initially, but it will be used as an app for any android phone. So the need for a tethering app is there still.
there's a rumor T-Mobile plans to set a limit at 10GB
it's good enough for 99.999%, even you do tethering
tether or AP?
I would much rather have an AP app then say a USB or BT tether imo. I have heard that there is a debug CLI on the USB port but I think that it tied into the walled garden well above the linux shell level, but its a start. I should have got into this thing in 07 but honestly I never thought it would see the light of day...
mingkee said:
there's a rumor T-Mobile plans to set a limit at 10GB
it's good enough for 99.999%, even you do tethering
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On certain plans you will have a 10gig limit
It _may_ be closer than you think
Well, all I know is I'd use a LOT of data if I tethered. I used over a gig in 3 weeks of owning my Fuze (1095MB), and using that connection on a computer would easily triple it. I sincerely doubt T-Mobile is going to allow you to take 4 gigs a month when their previous cap was at 1 and they changed the wording of the contract.
Black93300ZX said:
Hah, considering T-Mobile will limit your speeds as low as 50kbps if you use too much bandwidth, I don't think tethering is a great idea. You'll make it like 10 days with 3G speeds and then have dial-up speeds from then on.
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I have a kaiser in UK with the webandwalk plan. I stream things regularly and only once got a letter mentioning that I was going too much over the "limit". Other than that I never felt any slowing in my speed.
Regards
Emerson
Ok so back to a tether app.... has anyone figured out how to connect the G1 to a PC? WiFi would be the best solution if we could set it in AP mode but I haven't found a way to do that. So how about bluetooth? I heard they removed the bluetooth API in 0.9 and 1.0. That leaves USB but I am not sure how to make that work either. If we could get some connection to the PC that would be a big start.
Confirmed That It Will Have A 10 Gig Limit...then You Have Edge Connection For Remainder Of Bill Cyc..wifi Is The Alternative To Still Use The Phones Web W/ 3g Like Browsing
dre332256 said:
Confirmed That It Will Have A 10 Gig Limit...then You Have Edge Connection For Remainder Of Bill Cyc..wifi Is The Alternative To Still Use The Phones Web W/ 3g Like Browsing
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-is there anyway that you could give us a link or was this a rep?
-i have read things about the 10 cap but i am not sure either...
-some people say "just wait" but this gives us something to do until the delivery
A Rep...and There Has To Be A Data Plan Or You Can Only Call 911 And 611
Chainfire said:
It _may_ be closer than you think
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My connection pwns yours (lolz), thanks for the idea for the sig though.
data package
derkenblosh said:
Yes! most def!
If I can't tether, i'm buying a crappy sony phone from Tmobile for 3G / modem for my laptop. (if it'll work)
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fyi everyone tmobile is requiring the g1 to have a specific data plan that you have to have for the g1. And the word is that it only works with the g1 so you cant just swap your sim card into another phone and expect the data plan to work. I have the same problem and thought I could do that with my WING but apparently not. Guess we have to wait for someone to make a tethering app.
Dirtay said:
fyi everyone tmobile is requiring the g1 to have a specific data plan that you have to have for the g1. And the word is that it only works with the g1 so you cant just swap your sim card into another phone and expect the data plan to work. I have the same problem and thought I could do that with my WING but apparently not. Guess we have to wait for someone to make a tethering app.
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I called CS about this question, the answer is: you can
keep in mind that, G1 uses epc.tmobile.com as APN, try it on Wing
you even can request CS to add VPN tag in order to use internet3 APN
will pick up G1 at corp store, and setup my account, switch to G1 data service and add VPN tag
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1444468

Why does Bell not consider the Vogue a smartphone?

Soon it's time for me to get a phone upgrade for one of the two HTC vogues on my contract, so Bell called me and asked me if I thought about it and I told them I was putting the upgrade credit towards an iPhone. They told me I need to upgrade my plan to a data plan. I told them I had a smartphone already and they said the HTC Touch was designed to look and act like a smartphone but Bell doesn't count it as a smartphone
Now to get my a new phone I have to be on atleast a 500mb a month data plan. 500MB a month?! I don't know but I think I would use that in like a day. I use the internet on my phone quite a bit, I use the last.fm app and push email is on 24/7. To make things worse I can't check how much transfer I use a month now, because Bell's data checker is wrong, it says I only use 15mb, when I've downloaded files larger than 50mb on my phone.
I have no idea what to do
Well,
If you like what your phone does. Why not keep it. You can use the latest WinMo builds on it. I don't know. Just my thoughts.
Don't change it. Data charges will go through the roof.
I'm torn, because the htc dream I'm looking at has tons of nice features, but I don't know how fast I would consume 500mb.
Then i suggest going with the dream but disabling the "cellular network data connection". That way you'll be able to use calendar, email and such (yay for cache-ing data!)... but not google maps. That f'in sucks, i know.
well if there data counter s wrong then get the 500mb plan they will only say you used like 40mb right lol. j/k
it seems you are in a situation.....
Download a data monitoring program. Look at what you use after a month and decide if 500mb will suffice.
BJNK said:
Download a data monitoring program. Look at what you use after a month and decide if 500mb will suffice.
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That is a brilliant suggestion, but unfortunately the 2 I tried netcounter and rocket data aren't compatible with my vogue
I'm not sure what to do, really! I would LOVE to have a larger screen and hardware keyboard, but if I need more than 500mb, well, I need more than 500mb. Ah!
Macmee said:
I'm torn, because the htc dream I'm looking at has tons of nice features, but I don't know how fast I would consume 500mb.
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Wait - Bell has the HTC Dream??
Ok checked their site mid post and they do not have the HTC dream...
Also for the HTC Vogue - the reason it isn't considered a PDA by Bell (from what I've heard) is more marketing than anything. The wanted to release a PDA with cheap data to get customers in contracts during the just-pre-ipone era.
I am on Bell and got my Touch on release day. Bell does consider it a smart phone. However, they allow a customer with a Touch to add the Unlimited Mobile Browser which is normally limited to dumbphones with WAP browsers only.
The reason they did this was because Rogers was releasing the iPhone a few days after the Touch release( in Canada ). The Touch, being the closest thing to an iPhone hardware wise at the time ( all screen, no keyboard ). Bell decided to sell the Touch for cheap AND give it a VERY cheap unlimited data plan. 5$. Yes, unlimited data on the Vogue with Bell was 5 $. and it worked. The Touch was sold out all over the place here and there are many, many Bell Touch owners because of this.
It has since been raised to $7 and $10 data plans, depending if you're on contract or not. This was a one time shot and in the 2 years since Bell has done this, they have never done it again with any other smart device.
So, if you get rid of the vogue, you have to go to their new absurd data plans. IMO stick with your vogue, it is still the best phone that BEll carries with a 7$ Unlimited Data Plan; you can't beat that.
Also, in reagrds to the incorrect data usage displaying on your bill; Bell caps each data session at 0.0391MB. So even if you DL 100mb file, it sill still only show 0.0391MB for that session. Why? I don't know, but I'm sure someone much smarter then me can tell you why carriers do this. If you want to track your data usage, use SPB Wireless Monitor as it does work on the Touch.
EDIT: These are the devices that Bell carries that allow the 5, 7 and 10 dollar unlimited data plans.
AUDIOVOX
8930
HTC
Touch
KYOCERA
3245
LG
150, 325, 385, 6200, Bliss, Chocolate, Fusic, Musiq, Reveal / Shimmer, Rumour, Rumour 2, Shine, Vantage, Voyager, Wine, Xenon
MOTOROLA
e815, Hint, KRZR, RAZR v3c, RAZR2 v9m, ROKR Z6m
NOKIA
2730, 2855i, 6350
SAMSUNG
a580 ,a640 ,a900, a920, m230 (Phoenix), m300, m320, m500, m510, m530, m610, m620, r610, r651 (Vice), u740, Cleo, Impact, Instinct, Link, Reclaim
SANYO
2300, 2400, 7000, 7050, 7500, 8300, Katana, Katana LX, Katana Eclipse, Pro 200, Pro 700, S1
skydirt said:
I am on Bell and got my Touch on release day. Bell does consider it a smart phone. However, they allow a customer with a Touch to add the Unlimited Mobile Browser which is normally limited to dumbphones with WAP browsers only.
The reason they did this was because Rogers was releasing the iPhone a few days after the Touch release( in Canada ). The Touch, being the closest thing to an iPhone hardware wise at the time ( all screen, no keyboard ). Bell decided to sell the Touch for cheap AND give it a VERY cheap unlimited data plan. 5$. Yes, unlimited data on the Vogue with Bell was 5 $. and it worked. The Touch was sold out all over the place here and there are many, many Bell Touch owners because of this.
It has since been raised to $7 and $10 data plans, depending if you're on contract or not. This was a one time shot and in the 2 years since Bell has done this, they have never done it again with any other smart device.
So, if you get rid of the vogue, you have to go to their new absurd data plans. IMO stick with your vogue, it is still the best phone that BEll carries with a 7$ Unlimited Data Plan; you can't beat that.
Also, in reagrds to the incorrect data usage displaying on your bill; Bell caps each data session at 0.0391MB. So even if you DL 100mb file, it sill still only show 0.0391MB for that session. Why? I don't know, but I'm sure someone much smarter then me can tell you why carriers do this. If you want to track your data usage, use SPB Wireless Monitor as it does work on the Touch.
EDIT: These are the devices that Bell carries that allow the 5, 7 and 10 dollar unlimited data plans.
AUDIOVOX
8930
HTC
Touch
KYOCERA
3245
LG
150, 325, 385, 6200, Bliss, Chocolate, Fusic, Musiq, Reveal / Shimmer, Rumour, Rumour 2, Shine, Vantage, Voyager, Wine, Xenon
MOTOROLA
e815, Hint, KRZR, RAZR v3c, RAZR2 v9m, ROKR Z6m
NOKIA
2730, 2855i, 6350
SAMSUNG
a580 ,a640 ,a900, a920, m230 (Phoenix), m300, m320, m500, m510, m530, m610, m620, r610, r651 (Vice), u740, Cleo, Impact, Instinct, Link, Reclaim
SANYO
2300, 2400, 7000, 7050, 7500, 8300, Katana, Katana LX, Katana Eclipse, Pro 200, Pro 700, S1
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Wow, thanks for telling me this If I am doing something, such as having background data (with google sync) would that be affected by the maximum session rule? I don't know what exactly a session is
plemen said:
Wait - Bell has the HTC Dream??
Ok checked their site mid post and they do not have the HTC dream...
Also for the HTC Vogue - the reason it isn't considered a PDA by Bell (from what I've heard) is more marketing than anything. The wanted to release a PDA with cheap data to get customers in contracts during the just-pre-ipone era.
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No, I got the device from ebay
There is no actual data limit per session or a "maximum session rule". It's just how its recorded by the system and displayed backto you. Even if you call TCARE or text TCARE it will show this deflated value. Session is when your phone dials #777 to connect to data. Under WinMo you can see this by clicking on your data icon on the status bar. It will show you that you're connected and the current session time. Now, don't be fooled thinking that the system does not fully register your total usage and expect to get away with tehering etc ( on a non safe ROM ) cause you will indeed be billed for actual usage.
skydirt said:
There is no actual data limit per session or a "maximum session rule". It's just how its recorded by the system and displayed backto you. Even if you call TCARE or text TCARE it will show this deflated value. Session is when your phone dials #777 to connect to data. Under WinMo you can see this by clicking on your data icon on the status bar. It will show you that you're connected and the current session time. Now, don't be fooled thinking that the system does not fully register your total usage and expect to get away with tehering etc ( on a non safe ROM ) cause you will indeed be billed for actual usage.
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But I mean, if I have background data in Android running, with the gmail sync, is that going to eat up my 500mb
Yes it will.
argh, I have no idea what I'm going to do then.
I think I need to hear what other people do with android and how much data they consume
Macmee said:
But I mean, if I have background data in Android running, with the gmail sync, is that going to eat up my 500mb
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If you are asking will just background data and emails and casually surfing the net eat up 500mb, then no not even close.
But if your a "power user" and your downloading MP3's watching youtube and streaming lastfm, then yes you will definitely go over.
As well the original reason for the Vogue to be non smartphone was because it did not have a keyboard. The Vogue was the first phone in NA (I believe) to be an entirely touch interface with no physical keyboard/dialpad. It was this reasoning that they did not believe it to be a true smart phone, and honestly given one WinMo 6.0 they were pretty much right lol
The iPhone was not available until July 11 2008 from Rogers, the touch has been out since July 2007 and was released to Bell sometime in the fall of 2007.
BJNK said:
If you are asking will just background data and emails and casually surfing the net eat up 500mb, then no not even close.
But if your a "power user" and your downloading MP3's watching youtube and streaming lastfm, then yes you will definitely go over.
As well the original reason for the Vogue to be non smartphone was because it did not have a keyboard. The Vogue was the first phone in NA (I believe) to be an entirely touch interface with no physical keyboard/dialpad. It was this reasoning that they did not believe it to be a true smart phone, and honestly given one WinMo 6.0 they were pretty much right lol
The iPhone was not available until July 11 2008 from Rogers, the touch has been out since July 2007 and was released to Bell sometime in the fall of 2007.
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I think I could give up last.fm for the larger screen and hardware keyboard
Thanks for your reply
Now I just have to figure out how to make the dream work with Bell software wise, I think I have to make it dial 777 or something
As far as I know, Bell now has a full GSM network... no extra config should be needed to get a GPRS/EGDE/HSPA connection... should just work outta the box with a Bell SIM card
stickus said:
As far as I know, Bell now has a full GSM network... no extra config should be needed to get a GPRS/EGDE/HSPA connection... should just work outta the box with a Bell SIM card
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Bell does have a new network, however it is not GSM. It does however use sim cards. The new network is HSPA+/UMTS and only supports dual band of 850/1900. This is different then the GSM/GPRS/EDGE Quad-band (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) and any devices that use these bands will not work on the new Telus and Bell network.
Example:
A GSM (850/1900 MHz) device will not work on Bell/Telus
A HSPA/UMTS (850/1900 MHz) will work on Bell/Telus.
The NA version of the HTC Dream that rogers carries happens to support HSDPA/UMTS dual-band (850/1900 MHZ) and will work on Bell and Telus' new network. However, popping a bell sim card into a Rogers HTC dream will not make it work. You will need to have the device unlocked and then you will need to contact Bell and give them the ESN to activate on your account, or do it online though your account services. Bell will unlock a device for you for a $75 charge. I suggest doing it yourself for free by looking up how to get your unlock code and how to unlock your device, in the usual places.
skydirt said:
Bell does have a new network, however it is not GSM. It does however use sim cards. The new network is HSPA+/UMTS and only supports dual band of 850/1900. This is different then the GSM/GPRS/EDGE Quad-band (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) and any devices that use these bands will not work on the new Telus and Bell network.
Example:
A GSM (850/1900 MHz) device will not work on Bell/Telus
A HSPA/UMTS (850/1900 MHz) will work on Bell/Telus.
The NA version of the HTC Dream that rogers carries happens to support HSDPA/UMTS dual-band (850/1900 MHZ) and will work on Bell and Telus' new network. However, popping a bell sim card into a Rogers HTC dream will not make it work. You will need to have the device unlocked and then you will need to contact Bell and give them the ESN to activate on your account, or do it online though your account services. Bell will unlock a device for you for a $75 charge. I suggest doing it yourself for free by looking up how to get your unlock code and how to unlock your device, in the usual places.
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True, except tha dream "and any GSM only device" uses an IMEI number not ESN.. "besides phones like tha touch pro2 for telus witch has an ESN & IMEI as it suppots CDMA & GSM" im shure bell wouldnt need tha IMEI or even be able use it for that matter as they can not have every IMEI in there data base, only with one of there devices would you be able to register tha IMEI on your account.. allthough like skydirt said if its unlocked and support NA HSPA bands it should work.. most new devices may auto configure your carrier settings (for data) but you may need to get settings from bell for some phones to work - at least that how it works with rogers/fido "were i am a beloved customer service Rep"
PS: im in tha same boat as tha creator of this thread and it sucks! im kicking my own ass for not upgrading my phone wen they still offered unlimited data, sms, calldisplay, voicemail etc for $45 a month.. i no i would go well over even with 1GB on any other device... i did put tha wife on tha $45 unlimited plan while it was still offered though,,, now if i can just get her to switch accounts with me lol i have herd bell will allow you to keep old data plans switching to there HSPA network? ?

Have questions for StraightTalk/Net10/Tracfone?

I was once a tech/sales/fraud/CustSvc support for ST/NET10/TF
then im now on AT&T tech
anyways, if you want to have some clarifications, questions about the said brands, you can ask me, i cannot guarantee to answer everything but go ahead
I do not represent nor am I anymore connected with Tracfone Wireless Inc on xda nor do my posts and opinions reflect those of the company, management, and or its subsidiaries
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The most obvious one, what is the true data limit to the "unlimited" data. How do they determine if you're using too much data, or how do they determine if you're streaming or tethering?
Sent from my GT-N7000 Samsung Galaxy Note "Go big or go home" using XDA app
it actually depends upon the network of the area,
we have tools to check how much bandwidth is allocated in the area
if we detect serious network impact then we know what phone number caused such,
we dont own a network we "rent" from other large telecom companies
but mostly its 2GB - 3GB before it was 5GB but due to complaints recieved by TMO/AT&T/Sprint/Verizon about our subscribers affecting the performance of their network we reduced it to 2GB - 3GB,
some though get away with having as much as 8-10GB per month, im not sure how that happens
and analyze thier marketing strategy its unlimited "web browsing" they never said downloading, tethering, streaming, internet just "web browsing"
one funny experience was when a customer said, "whats the use of having one of your android phones if im prohibited to download stuff from internet with my 'unlimited' plan"
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if we detect serious network impact then we know what phone number caused such
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Knowing this, any idea how much tethering one can get away with before ST takes action?
about 2GB - 3GB actually,
depends also on the bandwidth you are allocating
Does Straight Talk using AT&T's network have the same speed as AT&T? Or does it cap it at 500kbps like AT&T GoPhone does?
ST SIMs run in ATT & TMO towers based on what i know we have HSPA+ for our contracts, you can have as much as 1-1.7Mbps
deathnotice01 said:
ST SIMs run in ATT & TMO towers based on what i know we have HSPA+ for our contracts, you can have as much as 1-1.7Mbps
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Hm. Well in my area AT&T gets me around 3.5-4Mbps downstream and 1-2Mbps upstream. T-Mobile was much faster most of the time but unfortunately they started compressing all images through mobile data so...
synaesthetic said:
Does Straight Talk using AT&T's network have the same speed as AT&T? Or does it cap it at 500kbps like AT&T GoPhone does?
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Hi, I just signed up because this is the same question I 've been searching for.
I'm now looking for a prepaid to save money since I'm just a student so cannot afford to try both straight talk and gophone. which one between these two has the fastest download speed? I have a 4G capable phone and just signed up for att's gophone service today with 1GB data, but the speed I'm getting is 1.7 to 2mb/s at best. would straight talk be faster than this speed?
I just heard the gophone offers throttle 3G, so it's around 2 or 2.5G, whereas straight talk does not throttle, so they are around 3.5G, is that true?
the only reason why I chose to try gophone because straight talk's 45 dollar plan doesn't allow international sms. but I can think of an alternative if straight talk is faster.
Thanks in advance!
ST now actually has a unlimited international voice/sms + local unlimited web browsing for $60, and ST runs on AT&T HSPA+ network so you can have as much as 1-1.7Mbps (at least thats what we know but some can get 4g speeds)
iPhone 4S on Straight Talk
I am very curious about using an Iphone 4S on Straight Talk. Hubby's contract with AT&T is up next month and I really want to get all the iTards off my plan So, what am I going to have to do to his phone to get as many (hopefully all) of the features he currently uses to function?
#1 requirement is tethering. He tethers (& yes, I pay AT&T their F***ing extortion fee) so he can telecommute--no downloading--just connecting to his work pc.
#2 requirement is the "Find my Friends" feature so he can keep track of all his iTard buddies & kids. Why anyone would want this, ahem, feature is beyond me.
#3 is there going to be any problem with iTunes or the Ap Store? He and the iTard kids will throw the biggest hissy fit ever seen if they can't get to the latest American Idol downloads & Tap Tap Revenge.
Thank you!
How can I keep my number when switching from AT&T to Straight Talk using my own phone? The only number transfer option they offer requires I purchase a Straight Talk branded device.
Thanks for answering my earlier question.
Since the amount of data you can use seems to vary from location to location, is there any way to check exactly how much one can use - *before* getting warned?
BKrenning said:
I am very curious about using an Iphone 4S on Straight Talk. Hubby's contract with AT&T is up next month and I really want to get all the iTards off my plan So, what am I going to have to do to his phone to get as many (hopefully all) of the features he currently uses to function?
#1 requirement is tethering. He tethers (& yes, I pay AT&T their F***ing extortion fee) so he can telecommute--no downloading--just connecting to his work pc.
#2 requirement is the "Find my Friends" feature so he can keep track of all his iTard buddies & kids. Why anyone would want this, ahem, feature is beyond me.
#3 is there going to be any problem with iTunes or the Ap Store? He and the iTard kids will throw the biggest hissy fit ever seen if they can't get to the latest American Idol downloads & Tap Tap Revenge.
Thank you!
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1.) if you are on our BYOP plan, you can tether all the hell you want, as long as we don't detect major bandwidth allocation affecting the carrier
2.) any feature that uses the internet inside your phone is compatible, you don't need to unlock your phone since you will have a AT&T sim under StraightTalk
3.) nope not at all,
synaesthetic said:
How can I keep my number when switching from AT&T to Straight Talk using my own phone? The only number transfer option they offer requires I purchase a Straight Talk branded device.
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LOL, who told you that?, you can keep a AT&T number and still use the same device, we just give you a SIM (we need to program the SIM to your number and re-register it in the AT&T network), call ST and tell them to activate the SIM, the process takes 24hrs-2 business days, or maybe they have a new policy about phone number change, it was 2 months since i worked there, but that was the process before i left
luftrofl said:
Thanks for answering my earlier question.
Since the amount of data you can use seems to vary from location to location, is there any way to check exactly how much one can use - *before* getting warned?
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there was a code entry before, darn i forgot the code, it was used by us to check data/voice/SMS usage using the subscribers phone incase our tools go down. we use manual check to inform about the data changes
Nobody told me, but the website didn't allow for a number port option when buying just a SIM.
synaesthetic said:
Nobody told me, but the website didn't allow for a number port option when buying just a SIM.
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I just got my sim card yesterday. I phoned straight talk to activate it. They can port a number over when you call them or on there website. I however did not port my number over yet because I want to test there service before canceling my att
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
I use on average around 1-1.5GB per month with AT&T. Occasionally I come close to my 3GB cap. I've never gone over it. Would this be a problem for ST? I know they say "unlimited" but I am pretty sure it's not actually "unlimited" since nothing really is anymore.
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Nobody told me, but the website didn't allow for a number port option when buying just a SIM.
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yeah, they don't disclose that unless customer requests, because ST pays AT&T or other carriers to port the number into our database
synaesthetic said:
I use on average around 1-1.5GB per month with AT&T. Occasionally I come close to my 3GB cap. I've never gone over it. Would this be a problem for ST? I know they say "unlimited" but I am pretty sure it's not actually "unlimited" since nothing really is anymore.
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in thier marketing its not unlimited internet its unlimited web browsing
its hard for us to detect bandwidth usage, but we can easily detect bandwidth allocation,
stupid terms and conditions are as follows
Straight Talk Unlimited talk, text and data plan Features cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for the use of Wireless Synch.
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the system of ST (provided by tracfone wireless) rely on AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, TMO systems, we sync data together with thier systems
and its f****** slow to sync with thier databases using our system
I know this is not about the pre paid, but I have a unlimited data non-smart phone plan and I would like to know if AT&T just does not care that I use 5+GB a month on it or if I am just lucky?
The best part is, my speeds are the same as the store phone's with the right plan's. I even have LTE were I live and when I went to a store to run some speed test I got 6.5 down and 1.5 up on H+ vs the store S2 geting about the same thing and the one x geting 8 down and 7.5up on LTE.
Thanks
well if your phone is not a smartphone under a AT&T plan we do give unlimited data with no caps, just for ordinary and classic phones,

I wonder how TMO will start catching those who thether.

We all know that part of TMO's "actual unlimited" plan means you can't tether. So I wonder how TMO's going to approach seeking out those people. Does your phone report the kind of ROM you're on to TMO? If so, that could be one way they find out.
alpha-niner64 said:
We all know that part of TMO's "actual unlimited" plan means you can't tether. So I wonder how TMO's going to approach seeking out those people. Does your phone report the kind of ROM you're on to TMO? If so, that could be one way they find out.
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T-mobile cannot legally look at your private data. They cannot look at what you're downloading or what you're using to download. What T-mobile does is look at the user agent of your browser to see if it reports you on a mobile or desktop browser, and they monitor the volume of data to see if there are any abnormal spikes. You can easily get around these by saying "all the data used was on my phone by *insert application*" or "I was using desktop mode on my browser, I wasn't tethering." They still have the right to suspend or terminate you but it's less likely.
This might interest you. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26649587
just as what all telecom companies do,
log your network usage, browser
the can tell whether its mobile or not
From what ive been finding out tmobile filters the user agent
If I use my phone as a hotspot for my roku box I should be fine shouldn't I since I'm not using it for a laptop where theirs browsers useragents. Thanks!!!
J.b. 4.1.1
Tethering
I have wondered for a long time why it is that providers care about tethering. As I see it it's all usage which is good news for them. I am with Rogers in Canada and tethering comes enabled. When I tether my laptop my usage goes up. Why do they care?
Daveosh said:
I have wondered for a long time why it is that providers care about tethering. As I see it it's all usage which is good news for them. I am with Rogers in Canada and tethering comes enabled. When I tether my laptop my usage goes up. Why do they care?
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Because all the major US carriers charge you to use your mobile device as a hotspot. By using free or third party apps to bypass the carrier's hotspot add-on, that's one less revenue stream the carrier can make.
When I got my S3, I couldn't tether. Even tho I have a grandfathered plan with hotspot. And NO way I am giving that up! I did not try a different rom but was rooted and used other wifi apps and no luck. However, my G2 and currntly SR and T989 both work just fine.

[Q] Free international roaming -- tethering?

I understand that T-Mobile's new free 2G international roaming doesn't like tethering. Does anyone know if they're restricting that by user agent? Has anyone actually tried tethering it out of the USA?
bjquinn said:
I understand that T-Mobile's new free 2G international roaming doesn't like tethering. Does anyone know if they're restricting that by user agent? Has anyone actually tried tethering it out of the USA?
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Use FoxFi. It's an app made just for using wifi tethering without A tether plan. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.foxfi
READ the App description. There's a note for T-Mobile users.
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Use FoxFi. It's an app made just for using wifi tethering without A tether plan.[/url]
READ the App description. There's a note for T-Mobile users.
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Thank you. Looks like I have to use USB tether? Is there software required on my laptop as well?
Also, anyone have any idea whether FoxFi would work on the free international data roaming?
bjquinn said:
Thank you. Looks like I have to use USB tether? Is there software required on my laptop as well?
Also, anyone have any idea whether FoxFi would work on the free international data roaming?
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If you want to share your phone's internet as a WiFi hotspot, use FoxFi. If you want to use USB tethering, use Clockworkmod Tether. These are the best I think. And yeah, it should work, there's no harm in trying, they're both free apps.
Thanks!
The only harm is that if I get to Europe and it doesn't work, I'm sort of up a creek without a paddle if I can't tether. But the alternative is to rent a really expensive mifi device to have data over there, and I'm hoping not to have to do that.
bjquinn said:
Thanks!
The only harm is that if I get to Europe and it doesn't work, I'm sort of up a creek without a paddle if I can't tether. But the alternative is to rent a really expensive mifi device to have data over there, and I'm hoping not to have to do that.
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do a little test to see if your phone/laptop will tether.
Buy a cheap sd card or order a free one as the nexus is unlocked you won't have to rent anything. Also tethering on 2g isn't worth the hassle anyway.
Phone : Nexus 4 /Rom : cataclysm / Kernel : Stock.
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