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I am about to buy an imported Nexus One, I will use it on a GSM carrier in another country (google doesn't sell it here).
In the future, when there will be an official firmware update available, who be will providing it to consumers ? Is it Google, HTC, or only the official carriers like T-Mobile ? Will I be able to download it somewhere, or will I unable to upgrade without voiding the warranty ?
Thanks
you will most likely be able to manualy update by downloading and installing it your self.
htc will look at the official site
It will be FOTA...
How does OTA updates work, technically ? Does it need a special cooperation of my service provider or is it via any internet connection ?
I remember the OTA updates for the G1 needed to be pushed by the service provider, and if your carrier doesn't want you to have the update, you'd never have it. I hope it's not like that for an unlocked phone but I haven't found any info anywhere about that.
This is what I know + my personal logic: an ota is data so its going to be over your internet. And your provider will have to allow it. For those with tmo obviously otas come no problem, tmo expects to push them for google. I've never gotten one I'm always too impatient and I do it manually. So you'll receive it through your data connection but the always available alternative is to manually update it. The point is, even if a carrier prevents it from transmitting, it'll end up online and you will be able to get and install it. And it doesn't require rooting or any special level of knowledge in my opinion.
What about for those who TMO has no idea that we are currently running this phone? Will the OTA still be available?
Thanks
Yes every firmware update so far has turned up on the web to be installed manually. I don't anticipate the next update to be any different in that regard. It isn't google or a carrier but smart consumers who have received the ota and are nice enough to put it on the internet for public consumption
DMaverick50 said:
Yes every firmware update so far has turned up on the web to be installed manually. I don't anticipate the next update to be any different in that regard. It isn't google or a carrier but smart consumers who have received the ota and are nice enough to put it on the internet for public consumption
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I was prompted by by N1 to check for updates and did so OTA via the phone.
On the google forum, one of the google employees said that the phone can check a google server for updates, and then you can choose to download over wifi or 3G, and install.
unfortunately the forum won't let me post an external link... so I can't show you the thread
post the link please
you can just add some space in the URL , or just remove the ht from h t t p . we can understand it .
the information is important.
h t tp ://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=24211ae486d5b412&hl=en
note that this response was chosen as best response by a google employee
I got a txt message from rogers saying that an update is available for the 911 calling issue, and dis update also includes the SenseUI,
now how will dis effect on the rooted HTC Dream phones
shud I unroot the phone to get dis update
or will CyanogenMod give us a new update with SenseUI
yeah i got that txt msg too, said somethign about the internet going down too
The 911 issue is fixed in all 1.6 roms including cyanogenmod. If you want SenseUI then flash a rom that has that in it. This really doesn't change anything for rooted users except that we will get a credit on our bill.
Rogers update instructions said:
You will be compensated automatically for this inconvenience with a credit of one month of data fees.
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Yay
EkostonS said:
yeah i got that txt msg too, said somethign about the internet going down too
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Mine still works. Maybe because I'm rooted its fine?
beav_35 said:
The 911 issue is fixed in all 1.6 roms including cyanogenmod. If you want SenseUI then flash a rom that has that in it. This really doesn't change anything for rooted users except that we will get a credit on our bill.
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yas we vl get a credit
by the way im getting my magic on monday so i vl have the update in dat
is da internet goes down for a month o wht
My worry is that Rogers will shut off internet access to our rooted Dreams untill we install this patch, regardless of whether we need it or not. Any word on whether this will screw over rooted phones?
the text I got on my magic said:
"In order to help ensure 911 calls are completed internet access will be temporarily disabled..... To minimize loss of internet service please complete your software update immediately. Upon completion, internet access will be re enabled within 24 hours."
Does that mean until I update I don't get internet. Its okay with the magic but My dream has a different MOD so I can't exactly update it :S does that mean I wont be be able to to use my data :S ever...
thats my worry with the txt i got, i called rogers and said i had 1.6 software already and he said the internet shouldnt be an issue then. we will see i guess..
says the "internet will be effective as of 01/24/2010 6:00am EST."
Here is wht Mary from rogers says abt the update
Hi There. Just wanted to jump in to clarify one point. Data will not be disabled until tomorrow - Sunday, January 24 - at 6am for those who have not updated their device with the 911 fix. With safety being the highest priority, this was a necessary step to ensure 911 calls will complete on all devices.
If you are currently having issues, I suggest you call Technical Support.
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so vl have to wait until 2moro to find out whether is it really necessary for us rooted users to do dis update
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Here is wht Mary from rogers says abt the update
so vl have to wait until 2moro to find out whether is it really necessary for us rooted users to do dis update
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I think you have to wait till Monday to find out. Everybodies internet will be shut off tomorrow regardless of root or not. It will be off for 24 hours. Question is, will those of us who have rooted have internet access on Monday.
According to this thread
Originally Posted by srlee
Rogers says they check build number of 1.89 or higher and if it is not you MUST upgrade , been told that twice now.
Just got off phone, spoke to someone at Rogers office of the president, he said there are no exceptions. If you don't have Rogers Build Number greater than 1.89 , you will lose internet access.
Fix would be to replace build number in prop file with a rogers style build number
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AFAIK, there is only 1 Magic rom that would pass that test.
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AFAIK, there is only 1 Magic rom that would pass that test.
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so us with rooted dreams are screwed.. we have to unroot and do the update and cant root again till there are roms that will pass it?
fzlhmt said:
Here is wht Mary from rogers says abt the update
so vl have to wait until 2moro to find out whether is it really necessary for us rooted users to do dis update
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hmm well it seems that its past 6am and I still have data and I didn't update yet so might be safe.
Connection just dropped on internet.
CM latest
HTC Dream
Winnipeg
Edit: Rebooted phone, Works again?
Connection still up here
HTC Dream
manup456 2.1
Winnipeg
Ok, no crying wolf, I've verified on my end, in Winnipeg, My data connection 2/3G is dead :/
Data down on Vancouver Island Bc
Only time will tell now if they let us back on without their dumb update.
hrrrm.. still have internet connection, but showing "h" where 3g used to be on top bar.
for those of you wondering, yes, this is a "perfect" spl
here's whati saw when i went into fast boot:
pvt 32b ship s-on d
hboot 1.33.0010
cpld-4
radio 3.22.26.17
june 2 2009, 21:33:16
and for those techie types out there
baseband ver: 62.59s.20.23u_3.22.26.17
Kernal ver:2.6.27-d5acf552 [email protected] #12
build# 1.89.631.1 146733 cl#94714 release-keys
About Rogers service interruption
I think my biggest issue is with this "RogersMary" person on the AndroidForums, and the conflicting information I get from phoning tech support vs. her (is she an official support person? She inferrs she is by her ID and the tone of her posts but I wonder...).
Here is my "911 Saga" w/ Rogers:
* get a series of French and english SMS from Rogers: first to diable GPS to make sure 911 works, then that an update is available at rogers.com that is mandatory--it says internet would be shut off for up to 24 hours starting Sunday at 6AM (no time zone given--I assume Eastern but could be pacific based on the IP addresses my phone gets, or could be my local Mountain time). It says to "prevent FURTHER disruption" upgrade your phone BEFORE the outage starts.
* I go to rogers.com and get instructions. Requires WinXP or Vista. I don't have any windows computers at all here (I have a Mac and a Linux computer at my disposal). Supremely annoying!
* I google for answers, find RogersMary's posts on AndroidForums saying 2 things: If your PC doesn't meet support requirements phone, and in so many words that only those that don't upgrade their phone will lose their internet so stop fussing and update already.
* phone rogers tech support. I ask for instructions to upgrade my phone without a Windows PC...long pause...response (and I quote) "I have no idea". (strike 1 for RogersMary).
* I scour further. NOTHING on rogers.com, but in the forums I find images of this update that you simply load onto an SD Card and do a restore from there. I do this...and after a VERY VERY LONG reboot I get an "extreme phone makeover", and the phone info shows same system build number as in the instructions. Huzzah! No thanks to Rogers though.
* Sunday morning arrives. My battery died in the night (but long after I upgraded) so I plugged in, turned on my phone. NO DATA ACCESS EVEN WITH UPDATE USING OFFICIAL ROGERS BUILD.
* I phone tech support AGAIN. I told them I have no Windows PC but I did find the update file for my SD Card and upgraded that way but still lost network, and did my method of updating mean Rogers didn't register it? He thanked me for upgrading and said be patient--that ALL Rogers customers w/ Rogers Magic would have a disruption for UP TO 24 hours even with the upgrade in place (STRIKE 2 FOR ROGERSMARY!). That is the main reason for the data plan credit.
Anyways, this is what he explained: Rogers has to "scan the network" to query the phone for information in order to verify the mandatory upgrade. If your system build is OK (didn't clarify if it had to be an exact match or a certain number or higher) then your data plan will be re-enabled. This scan is not a routine thing they do--it is a scheduled event that will occur over the 24 hour period that started this morning. So, if you do the upgrade after this morning there is a chance during the scan and find your phone not upgraded to the proper build number and your data plan will NOT be reactivated automatically by tomorrow morning, at which time you have to get ahold of customer service yourself and have them re-activate your data plan manually. (Ignore RogersMary and remember the SMS said upgrade to prevent FURTHER disruption--not to avoid disruption entirely).
This guy said I had to be patient and to contact support again only after Monday at 6AM if you have no data/internet as it could take that long to sort out. The time it takes could vary depending on your region, if you are within signal range, if your phone is powered down and how old your SIM card is.
The last one was interesting: I have a SIM card that is on its third phone and is approaching 5 years old (when I go to the local Rogers store to upgrade they just move my SIM card--I've not been given replacement SIM cards). He has taken support calls related to very old SIM cards and replacing them has fixed issues in the past. Notably, I've had SMS messages sporadically arrive hours late, but no total loss of service--thought it was just net congestion. He said it could be the old SIM card becasue older SIM revisions issued before 3G/HSDPA, though they work on 3G, have sometimes inconsistent performance as they were not tested with the 3G network before being issued. If you have unreliable SMS, the scan they're doing today could be unreliable too (delayed, etc).
So, I come away with the following:
* Rogers didn't promise NO disruption, they said UP TO 24 hours, and MORE if you don't upgrade, so you can't REALLY be sure if you have issues until tomorrow morning at the latest. The disruption might have come and went before you woke up this morning, or it may persist through the day.
* If your phone is off or has no signal through out the day, Rogers may not be able to scan your phone, and the effect might be the same as not upgrading.
* Not sure if it is fact or an educated guess, but I suspect that this scan could be performed through the same mechanism as SMS (text messaging), though I doubt you'd actually SEE a text message yourself (it'd be a specially crafted packet of data). That way a "data" operation can be performed on phones without data/internet enabled. Perhaps if your SMS messages take awhile then this scan would too.
* If you are still using a SIM card that was issued before 3G/HSDPA was offered by Rogers it isn't a revision that has undergone testing on the upgraded network. It doesn't prevent you from getting 3G but it isn't guaranteed and has been the cause of various issues from SMS to unreliable web browsing and they might blame it on your internet not reactivating if it fails...but wait until tomorrow to complain...
IT WORKED!!
I'm back in!!!
I called(landline), did NOT pick a phone, went to general tech(no wait) said vaguely "I was having some intermittent data issues and some forums said to call up and request a network refresh", he (very eagerly) said sure! turned off the phone, he refreshed, and I'm back.
He proceeded while booting to ask about what specific issues but I kept it vague, text issues, on/off data (i did not get asked about the update!)
If my data goes out in an hour like it seemed in the start, then Rogers is sweeping users in which case, turn your phone off until the whole ordeal is done to avoid being marked again, or risk calling for another refresh,(I'm sure they will catch on soon, but those outsourced peeps LOVE the easy calls!)
I prefer the nice method, instead of the death threats to the managers
if they ask about the update say "I did and i had intermittent issues some forums said...
enjoy your data(and the free month!)
We get a free month?!?!?
Hey all,
Ok, so here's the setup:
Bought a (supposedly) unlocked Samsung Focus from Expansys (AT&T Branded).
Don't have a SIM for Rogers yet, so just using it on my home wireless network. I can surf the web, access the marketplace, my XBOX Live account is linked up (my avatar is displayed), etc. All good.
UNTIL...I actually want to purchase or download an app/game from the marketplace! After I click Install, I get this message:
"This item is not available from the Marketplace catalog."
This happens for *every* application, paid or free. The only way I can get apps on to my phone is to get them through the Zune software and synch, and even then I have to go through the marketplace to the app where it tells me that its already installed (even though it shows up NOWHERE on my phone), and asks if I want to install it again...which it then lets me do and voila, app is visible.
This is *really* frustrating and I can't figure out what the issue could be. Any thoughts or has anyone else experienced this?!
Thanks,
DL
I just got my Focus today and I've got the EXACT same problem. I don't have it unlocked yet, so the only thing that is the same between our two cases is that we don't have a valid sim card.
Can anyone confirm this issue?
Issue Fixed...well more Issue Disappeared
My issue went away...literally...I don't really know what I did, or that I did anything. I blogged about it here (I'm still too new to post full url's here, so its broken up): geekswithblogs .net /dlussier /archive /2010/11/23/142839.aspx, but here's the update part:
So last night I plugged my phone into my pc to charge, which brought up the Zune software. I wanted a few more apps, so I downloaded them from there. Phone synched, and I went to try my apps. I thought “What the hell”, and tried to access an app on the marketplace. This time I didn’t get the “This item is not available from the Marketplace catalogue”, I got some message about an error and a hex value.
I tried to access an app again to see if I’d still get the error message and…*POOF*…I have full access to the marketplace over wi-fi!
I have *no* idea what caused the switch, it was nothing that I did intentionally! I did notice that the prices are now higher (BeJeweled was 4.99, now 5.49), and I’m assuming its because I’m hitting the Canadian marketplace and not the US one.
Weird, yes, but its working so…yay?
lol the EXACT same thing happened to me...it just....went away? lol I'm not complaining
Hi all
I have the Samsung galaxy s4 i9505
and this morning I woke up to fine a icon on my phone, and it is for a security policy update. but everytime I click on confirm, it says connecting to server.
but it never connects, always comes up with the following error:
update failed due to network issues
I have used my wifi, 3g and o2 and phones4u wifi in town but it says the same thing.
as anybody managed to get this to install and what is it or?
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Hi all
I have the Samsung galaxy s4 i9505
and this morning I woke up to fine a icon on my phone, and it is for a security policy update. but everytime I click on confirm, it says connecting to server.
but it never connects, always comes up with the following error:
update failed due to network issues
I have used my wifi, 3g and o2 and phones4u wifi in town but it says the same thing.
as anybody managed to get this to install and what is it or?
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I have exactly the same problem. I've even tried unrooting today to see if that fixed it but it didn't. Any ideas anyone?
Same Problem
Rexx Calibur said:
I have exactly the same problem. I've even tried unrooting today to see if that fixed it but it didn't. Any ideas anyone?
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I don't have my phone rotoed and at first I thought it was some rogue app trying it with ,y phone but I have been unable to update due to my "network issues". Very strange so far i have only tried on 3G and not wifi... if anyone finds a solution let me know
Seems a widespread issue. Think Samsung broke something.
just letting everyone know, but I have had a reply from Samsung, I duno if anybody has but here is the message I got
Hi Matt, we are currently upgrading Security Enhancements for Android which will check apps for malicious code and security risks. However some customers appear to be experiencing a connection issue with the upgrade server which we are investigating.
Please be assured that there is nothing to be concerned about and we are working on resolving the issue.
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just letting everyone know, but I have had a reply from Samsung, I duno if anybody has but here is the message I got
Hi Matt, we are currently upgrading Security Enhancements for Android which will check apps for malicious code and security risks. However some customers appear to be experiencing a connection issue with the upgrade server which we are investigating.
Please be assured that there is nothing to be concerned about and we are working on resolving the issue.
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Well hopefully its fixed soon because the annoying thing keeps showing up and I cant get rid until I update... thanks for letting us know....
Ok, not 100% sure but this evening I've come home to find a new popup window on my phone from samsung talking about denial service log and security policy with accept/reject terms and conditions. I confirmed and its gone away. Thinking 'this' is the correct security policy which seems to have updated.
Sorry I didn't take a screen shot.
The previous security policy update notification disappeared after I cancelled it just once this morning around 9am when I got to my office - have not seen it since
+1
Looking forward to the fix
Neither on wifi nor cellular will it check for update. I get the error "sorry, we are having trouble authenticating your device"
Any idea how to fix this ?
wondering the same :/ anyone have anything?
see my post here. besides flashing the t-mobile ummm rom I guess over it, you won't be able to update. I've tried samsung and t-mobile and the only thing that will work besides that is to borrow a sim from a friend and use that... https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/best-buy-screw-t3594359/page2
try it today. it should work. the servers were having issues last night and this morning.
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try it today. it should work. the servers were having issues last night and this morning.
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will not work because system updates are coming from carrier and having a tmobile sim in a verizon phone means verizon will not allow you to connect to their update server...
insomnia said:
will not work because system updates are coming from carrier and having a tmobile sim in a verizon phone means verizon will not allow you to connect to their update server...
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Thats not the case. I am using vzw GS8 on att and I receive updates fine
Well I'm confused then. I was able to do the last update with a t-mobile Sim in the phone? Right now when I try checking for updates it errors out saying it couldn't be authenticated. Anyone have any clue?
Hope I can help you!
How to update your system if you're not using the carrier from your S8(+) version.
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Neither on wifi nor cellular will it check for update. I get the error "sorry, we are having trouble authenticating your device"
Any idea how to fix this ?
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you wont be able to updated through wifi or LTE unless you use a verizon SIM but you can do it easily using your computer and samsung smart switch.
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you wont be able to updated through wifi or LTE unless you use a verizon SIM but you can do it easily using your computer and samsung smart switch.
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Are you able to update using your computer?
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Neither on wifi nor cellular will it check for update. I get the error "sorry, we are having trouble authenticating your device"
Any idea how to fix this ?
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Try to get at least an inactivated Verizon sim card from any Verizon store or you can also try a normal working Verizon sim. I had AT&T Galaxy S5 and it needed the carrier's sim card to even check for update. I took the sim, put it in, checked for update and was able to install it.
Fix to your issue
Hey guys so I do also share the same situation, I have a Verizon s8+ yet I have T-Mobile One as my coverage
Because it's not authenticated as a Verizon provided account it simply won't update
Now.. the solution to updating isn't directly on your device.
It's within the Samsung Smart switch App for either Mac or windows, you can run an update through there with little to no problems at all and finally keep your device up to date without having to return it for an unlocked one.
Just a brief note regarding the smart switch App, keep in mind that sometimes the update will freeze at a certain percentage on the computer so just be sure to close the app out only if your Samsung device hasn't received the green upload screen yet.
Hopefully this helps out alot of you guys ?
Best regards
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see my post here. besides flashing the t-mobile ummm rom I guess over it, you won't be able to update. I've tried samsung and t-mobile and the only thing that will work besides that is to borrow a sim from a friend and use that... https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/best-buy-screw-t3594359/page2
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I'd like to flash mine to t mobile, I'm begging you to help me with this!!!
Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
I've seen a bunch of info on the forums on how to flash the T-Mo ROM on an s8 - as well as flashing the Samsung Unlocked ROM on the s8 but frankly, almost all the threads are from back at the phone launch - and it is unclear to me which roms & programs to search for.
In a similar vein - I'm a noob to the whole process using oden - which I think is what i would need to use. I have experience from years ago running cyanogen mods on a nook tablet and messing with windows phones - but nothing recent and things have changed a lot.
I've read conflicting reports throughout the forums on doing this...
I'm running a VZW Branded (but it's now "unlocked")
Model: s8 SM-G-950U
Build #: NRD90M.G950USQS2BQL1
Baseband #: G950USQS2BQL1
What I'm looking for (really the right word is "NEED"):
Access to lower 700 A block (full band 12 use)
Ability to get OTA Updates
Mobile Hotspot Functionality
WiFi Calling
VoLTE
Bixby
If I could have these all running the Samsung Unlocked ROM - then that would be preferred...
If not - I would want to flash the T-Mobile ROM.
I need to know ASAP as I only have 14days from today (2/14/18) to figure this out or go back to VZW
Many thanks!
~chris