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Hi. Can anyone tell me please whether the Hero will have real-time 'push' email and whether it will be compatible with Outlook?
Many thanks.
it depends on which style you get I believe the sim free HTC branded ones will include exchange syncing software as standard. The "with google" branded ones dont, however there is software on the market which can do this for you anyway.
Well, I have a sim-free Hero on order, here in the UK.
I don't have a server, though - just Outlook on a single PC - would that be fine? Also - is it instant, or every 30 mins or so, like my current Nokia E71?
Thanks!
Just tested Hero ROM on my brothers G1. You can use Activesync ( sync with your local outlook via usb ) or POP email
Thank you, Sinas. And the Pop email is 'instant push'? My Nokia E71 will only check every 30 mins...
Thank you, Sinas. And the Pop email is 'instant push'? My Nokia E71 will only check every 30 mins...
Also, surely 'Activesync' is a windows programme - do you mean HTC Sync?
Thanks again...
Stuff review.
Okay, so the Stuff review seems to answer the questions.
Firstly; Some of these are basic (clocks, calendars), but many are ‘live’, pulling information through from the web to update automatically. The Nokia N97 offers similar widgets on its homescreen, but the Hero’s, most notably the excellent Twitter app, are by far the slickest and most useful we’ve used. so I am assuming that the Facebook widget is 'live'. Can anyone confirm?
More worryingly, we have this; Unlike the Magic, the Hero has native support for Microsoft Exchange, so setting up work e-mails is easy. It doesn't sync with Outlook, though there is a roundabout way of sending your contacts to Gmail, then get getting them to sync with the phone. which doesn't sound so promising. How can any new phone not sync with Outlook? Can this be true?
The full review is here; http://stuff.tv/Review/HTC-Hero-review/
Any thoughts (please?)
The facebook integration in the people application is nto real time, it is a set schedule updateof 2,4,8,12 or 24 hours.
The twitter app can be set to check every 5 minutes.
Yes, it does come with HTC Sync, but don't bother. It's just as bloody awful on the hero as it is on the HTC branded magics. Steer clear of that ****e and stick to the google or Exchange OTA Sync, both of which are push.
as for not synching with outlook (which it does but only just) the android OS is designed to sync with google over the air. that is one of it's main reasons for existing. and god knows at least it works as long as you are not on an apps domain....!
So, I guess you are saying that...
...if I want push email, because I have a pop3 account, rather than an Exchange one, I will need to somehow use gmail to push my mail to the phone?
*Sigh*
And EVERYTHING I have - contacts and calendar - is on Outlook, which you say doesn't properly sync with the Hero. Maybe I have ordered the wrong phone?
Thanks for your time...
yes you will. POP does not support push mail without some sort of third party intermediary such as Gmail, Exchange or BIS servers (blackberry).
Quite possibly you have.
Although, contacts can be copied across very simply into gmail, by exporting to a csv file and then importing that into gmail which takes about 2 minutes. and as for the calendar, google do calendar sync which syncs your outlook calendar to the gmail calendar as well.
however, from what you say, and what you want in a native outlook sync support, you'd be better off with a winmo device, and a third party hosted exchange for your pop, such as 4smartphone, or some of the guys that do it on here for a small price... that way you have the natice sync support, and also then you have your push mail.
Thank you for your help.
I guess a workaround might be for me to pay for a third-party application which will push my email to the device...
bigbamboo5 said:
I guess a workaround might be for me to pay for a third-party application which will push my email to the device...
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You might try looking into funambol. It connects most things, to most other things.
http://my.funambol.com/
is a free intermediary online funambol server application which might do exactly what you want.
I'm trying to find out from Orange whether the HTC Hero will synchronise with exchange.
Quite frustrating that there is no clear information available.
Rob
Thanks, Trentend - I'll take a look. Also Emoze has been suggested.
Anyone tried Emoze?
I have just spoken to someone at Devicewire who seems to know the phone well and has used it a lot - he tells me the phone 'definitely syncs perfectly with Outlook'. Which is nice...
For any kind of PUSH email support, you need a server-backend that can work it.
Meaning: An IMAP mail account (with IDLE support enabled) (like Gmail),
an Exchange account (used a lot in enterprises and such),
or something similar from Blackberry (BIS I believe).
A regular POP account is just that: Too simple to support any kind of push.
Create a gmail account, set your POP account to forward the mail directly to that gmail account, and set that gmail account up for push mail.
I believe gmail even supports multiple identities, so you can use gmail to send mail in such a way that it looks to come from your original POP account.
As for the Outlook sync: I'm curious just as you. Had WinMo and Symbian phones the last xx years, and I'm now waiting for my Hero to be shipped. My first Android experience, so I'll have to see.
Thing is, I don't value 'Outlook' at all. I use three different computers during each and even day, so all my mail is done webbased (and using a central storage). My 'primary' contact list _IS_ my phone. I don't sync it, I make backups.
So I think I will have to import my current contact list into my gmail-contacts, clean it all up and then connect my Android phone to it. But once you've done that, you're set .
dipje said:
For any kind of PUSH email support, you need a server-backend that can work it.
Meaning: An IMAP mail account (with IDLE support enabled) (like Gmail),
an Exchange account (used a lot in enterprises and such),
or something similar from Blackberry (BIS I believe).
A regular POP account is just that: Too simple to support any kind of push.
Create a gmail account, set your POP account to forward the mail directly to that gmail account, and set that gmail account up for push mail.
I believe gmail even supports multiple identities, so you can use gmail to send mail in such a way that it looks to come from your original POP account.
As for the Outlook sync: I'm curious just as you. Had WinMo and Symbian phones the last xx years, and I'm now waiting for my Hero to be shipped. My first Android experience, so I'll have to see.
Thing is, I don't value 'Outlook' at all. I use three different computers during each and even day, so all my mail is done webbased (and using a central storage). My 'primary' contact list _IS_ my phone. I don't sync it, I make backups.
So I think I will have to import my current contact list into my gmail-contacts, clean it all up and then connect my Android phone to it. But once you've done that, you're set .
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Thank you for this! I guess I'll have to try and do that gmail forwarding thing as the multiple identity thing is vital -if I reply from my phone, it needs to look as if it has come from my office. I'm sure there's an idiot's guide out there somewhere...
bigbamboo5 said:
Thank you for this! I guess I'll have to try and do that gmail forwarding thing as the multiple identity thing is vital -if I reply from my phone, it needs to look as if it has come from my office. I'm sure there's an idiot's guide out there somewhere...
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I just had a look. I can go to my gmail settings, and there is a tab 'accounts'.
In there the first section is to 'add another email address you own'. You will have to enter your current POP email address, and it will send a verification of some sort to verify the address is yours.
After that you can make that email address as 'default', and set the option to always make mail seem to come from that address, even if the mail you are replying to was sent directly to your gmail account.
I reccon that if you set an email address as 'default' there, you phone (and other) applications will also use it.
Then the only thing to do is set your current POP account to forward mail directly to your gmail account. (Not MOVE mail, but forward / copy it).
Then you have a gmail account 'invisible' to the outside world. Setting up an android phone with a gmail account should be no problem
Oooh!
Ta much!
Hero will sync with Exchange out of the Box
Magic and G1 need an extra App
cboyd said:
Hero will sync with Exchange out of the Box
Magic and G1 need an extra App
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Exchange, yes - but what about Outlook?
Just got my leo and loving it so far but got one annoying problem I have used contact changer to change all my contacts to first,last name but whenever an email arrives it resyncs the address book and changes most if not all of my contacts back to last,first which is rather annoying.
Do I have to sync up with outlook then change all my contacts on there to first,last and force a sync again.
Checked my gmail account and they are all first,last as before.
I had exactly the same problem but contact changer did the trick for me.
Paul
I wish I could say the same for mine! I wonder if I used an out of date one.. will try the one in the link you sent me to see if that works
if i use contact changer, it changes them to be correct, then as soon as it gets any contact from google - it resyncs them all back to be last name first name
its driving me MAD
incidentally and on a similar topic. its not pulling thru ANY e-mail for me on the google exchange sync, its just grabbed all the folders then given up. any ideas? (ive told it to get everything in the inbox - which is only 70 message regardless of size and regardless of dates) and its conected of my home wifi so its a pretty quick connection
Ok todays update, this is really starting to confuse me....
i exported all my contacts from google down into outlook.
with them all in outlook, i changed all the "file as" filed to be "first last"
then i stopped my phone syncing contcts with google, and told it tosynchronise withoutlook via usb.
it synced fine, all my contacts were as i wanted them.... then within seconds.. the phone had updated all the contacts to be "last name, first" then it promptly synced them all back to outlook!!!!!!
how on earth did it do that?!?!?!?
This issue is really irritating, by now I'm forcing myself to get used to the lastname,firtname format.
HTC Pls fix this!
one easy solution is to stop synchronizing your contacts with Google only synchronize mail....
it will work till some solution arrives .!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Has there been any fix for this issue as yet? I'm having the same problem since syncing my WM6.5 phone with Google (Contacts, Calendar and Mail)
Cheers
Fudge
I have the option selected to sync exchange contacts but I can only access conatcts that are listed in my outlook contacts section, not enterprise contacts? I recall previously on some other handset I used to be able to look up contacts from the enterprise contacts section just by typing a few lettes and clicking search or something like that.
Ideally I don't want to add a whole bunch of contacts that'll show up in my phone's contact list, I'll just need to email people now and then and need to look them up from the compose email interface.
The native activesync doesn't support the global address list (gal) so you won't be able to look them up. Touchdown does as an alternative.
I'll vouch for Touchdown. Awesome Exchange client. Well worth the $20.
Thanks, will see if I can live without it until n1 is updated, whenever that is...
I am trying to test out my company's first Epic and I put in all the info, email address, domain\user name, password, server address. It accepts my info, I take the defaults of how much data to transfer and frequency, then it brings me to the mailbox. It shows my sub folders to the inbox, it populates my calendar and contacts. It leaves me on the main inbox folder and then a yellow bar comes up " Unable to open connection to server" and nothing populates in my inbox.
My company is on Exchage 2003, I have a vibrant working just fine as well as a HTC evo. I tried with multiple exchange accounts on the same server but get the same result.
Anyone have any ideas ?
Same Problem with Exchange and Epic 4G
We are using Exchange 2003 as well. Contact, Calendar, and other mail folders show up just fine. I can see sent items, deleted items, and all other sub folders. When I try to load the inbox, I get the same error message.
What gives?
I just picked the phone up about 2 hours ago and came right here to figure it out!
My company uses Exchange 2008 and I'm able to connect just fine. So much quicker and easier than the moment.
I had the same problem. I had to go to gmail and import my contacts for hotmail and then sync my phone to the gmail account.
i heard that when 2.2 comes out, the exchange settings would work.
i am only getting 50 of my 812 contacts to import.
ballisticbeach said:
i heard that when 2.2 comes out, the exchange settings would work.
i am only getting 50 of my 812 contacts to import.
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I lost about 20 out of 252. So I just went back added the ones I'm missing.
Active sync support with most android phones is very dodgy -- some work and some don't. And I'm not talking about some models over another -- it's a unit specific issue. Some Epics do and some don't. The same thing was happening with the Droid X. The only models that consistently work are from HTC because they have their own active sync program in sense.
no workie, workie, now no workie
So i was here back at the beginning of September. Exchange would not load my inbox, then one day it started working for no reason I could find. I stopped using Moxier Mail and went to the built in email program.
Then two days ago, my Exchange account and another IMAP account I have set up on the mail client disappeared from the phone. NO idea why. My email, contacts, and calendar just vanished.
So I added back my exchange account, contacts and calendar came in just fine. Now my Exchange mail is back to where I was two months ago.
"Unable to open connection to server", that's all I get on the screen for my inbox.
Epic 4G, Exchnage 2003, built in mail client.
So I have a similar infrastructure to you, we run Exchange 2003 currently and have had numerous issues with the Epics. I have a couple tricks that really seems to help (at least in my environment)
1. When setting up the phone make sure the Calendar amount is set to All
2. Setting up the phone over Wi-Fi as opposed to the mobile connection seems to work significantly better.
3. If you have issues with the users calendar 9 times out of 10 its due to corrupt entries which not only cause issues with the calendar syncing, but also consume a huge amount of bandwidth. To correct this create a new calendar in Outlook, go into List view and copy everything from your calendar to the new one. All entries that cant copy need to be deleted. Move all your stuff back from the temp calendar to yours and the issue should be fixed.
I am running the leaked 2.2 on my Epic currently and it does seem to address a lot of the issues the Epic had with 2.1 and Active Sync.
Hope this helps and let me know if you have any questions.
I've done a lot of searching here and other places on the net, and haven't found a solid answer.
I've attempted to sync my hotmail/live contacts via exchange. I notice though, that the only fields available for my hotmail contacts, are things like first and last name. no phone number, email or any other information besides names. even when I try to add a contact, the only way to add things like number, email address, physical address is by syncing it with my Google account.
I don't use Google for much of anything. all my contacts and email are served through hotmail/live services.
How do I go about adding and syncing contacts with my hotmail/live exchange accounts?
thanks in advance for any help you guys can give me.
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smokeyb111 said:
I've done a lot of searching here and other places on the net, and haven't found a solid answer.
I've attempted to sync my hotmail/live contacts via exchange. I notice though, that the only fields available for my hotmail contacts, are things like first and last name. no phone number, email or any other information besides names. even when I try to add a contact, the only way to add things like number, email address, physical address is by syncing it with my Google account.
I don't use Google for much of anything. all my contacts and email are served through hotmail/live services.
How do I go about adding and syncing contacts with my hotmail/live exchange accounts?
thanks in advance for any help you guys can give me.
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HMMM, not sure what to tell you but mine sync up just fine...
Try going to accounts and sync and erasing the data and then the email address, reboot the phone, and then add the address again...
just a suggestion though.... not a problem with android though because it works just fine for me....
you could also try going through the "email" client and setting up your email there instead of through "accounts and sync"
lemme clarify a bit.
I am able to sync my contacts, but if I want to edit or even add a new contact to my hotmail-exchange account, I can only add (in this order:
Name prefix
First Name
Middle Name
Last Name
Name suffiX
Phonetic given name
Phonetic middle name
Phonetic family name
there are no options available for e-mail, phone, address or any other fields that are normally available for a contact.
When I open the contact to view it though it will show me the information stored in hotmail/live information, but I CANNOT edit it. If I try to, I get the screen described above.....
So in order for me to have an updated address book, I have to add/edit contacts from the google account I have (which I don't use for anything, except to download from Market or whatever)
Are you able to add a new contact and save it to your contact book in hotmail/live?
I have tried things like removing my hotmail and live accounts and then readding them.
I think the difference between your account and mine is that you are syncing yours through your google account where as I am not... to be clear, I am not syncing my emails nor contacts nor calendar through my gmail account. I only have my hotmail account set up on the phone to sync. Except for on the phone, the two accounts don't know the other exists. IF you are syncing your hotmail contacts through your gmail account, then you are tied to the fields provided by your google account.
TO answer your question, yes, I can make any modification the phone allows to my hotmail contact and it is reflected in my hotmail account.
I just wanted to say thanks for the insight....
I had to unlink everything that was syncing, and then resynced accounts, starting with my Hotmail/live accounts....all fixed now.
thanks again.
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Lemme get this straight. The issue is present only if two contact syncing services are enabled?
I tried. Setting Hotmail as the very first contact sync service and adding Google account without contacts sync does't work around the issue.