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another one bites the dust... good bye xperiancers... :(

guys. it was pure JOY to be an owner of SE Xperia, but enough is enough. I just got another cracks so I've decided to let it go and got myself new htc hd2.
seriously, typing in landscape on it is not that bad and comparable speed/accuracy wise with that not so perfect x1 physical qwerty. btw... speed. snapdragon. do I need to say more?
anyway... I guess no x2 for me after what I've seen on videos. no n900 either, even if I was considering getting one. x2 is daaaamn tooo slooooooww (seems to stutter even more than x1) and n900 unfortunately is a one big bug and shortcoming.
wish me luck...
see You on other parts of the forum. bye...
BTW: anyone knows what've happened with orelsi?? I almost miss that crazy bugger always knowing better... maybe his xperia finally cracked and he commited seppuku?? lol

lol good luck with your hd2, im thinking of buying one myself as a second device
btw, i too was wondering what happened to orelsi lol, havent seen him around here for a while, let's hope he aint clocked out

Well always good luck with the device you wish beeing the best for you.
Capactive screen is like seppuku for me,
As for HD2.
Actually I wonder more and more often what will I do in the future.
Even considering that I'll get my X2, I assume capactive will become
a ****ing tendency soon.
In this case I don't imagine using TouchScreen anymore!

well there will be two of us ... i hate so much capacitive ... but there might be some explanation for this ... my hands get really wet often and touching with the sensitive part of my fingers and swaping around gives me the nerves so i always touch the screen with the nails or top finger ... and not to mention the stylus problem ... I hope there are more people who dislike this thing... Ive heard there are also screens hybrid ... capacitive and resistive screens around.
And what the hell ... I dont get it this finger typing is by default non precise how can you make objects so big that you can use only your finger in such a small screen ... Web pages are not so big and with buttons there are also links ...
This is all Iphone fault

the snapdragon really makes a big difference in the speed and performace compared to slow x1 doesnt it??
i too dumped my x1 for a snapdragon phone. the lower-profile acer s200. lol. (hd2 a tad too big for me).
now i can watch hq wmv videos with no stutter at all.

i was looking at that phone as a replacement but just cant afford a new one when the x1a is still fullfilling my needs.
good luck with that phone, looking forward to reading your xperience (pun intended) with the hd2. hopefully next year i will replace my x1a with the hd2 or maybe an hd2 pro in the future.

well... still here. waiting for hd2 (delivery on monday, great deal with o2).
do not get me wrong, as I am not trying to convert anyone to hd2, but this whole need for resistive screen and real qwerty is becoming less and less obvious for me.
capacitive screen, read - toughened glass, hard to scratch, forces companies like ms to improve ui on their systems. see... the only good uses for styli are handwriting (are You handwriting with Your mouse on a pc?) and drawing (again, are You so much better with drawing using mouse on a pc comparing to sketches made with finger on a capacitive touch screen??). imho multitouch is more important than stylus.
qwerty... well... again - do some tests as I did. spb keyboard 4.1.1 trial, landscape fullscreen with clicking sound for better typing feel. I couldn't believe my eyes, as it wasn't much slower (if it was at all) or less accurate.
all I'm going to miss is xperia's still shot quality. some pictures shot in daylight are comparable quality with real cameras, and not those ****ty ones.
... but hey. I won't have to convert videos anymore.
anyway... I will keep my x1 as a backup device and I'll come back in here to share my hd2perience from ex x1 user point of view.
btw, I am not beeing paid for it.

bronx said:
well... still here. waiting for hd2 (delivery on monday, great deal with o2).
do not get me wrong, as I am not trying to convert anyone to hd2, but this whole need for resistive screen and real qwerty is becoming less and less obvious for me.
capacitive screen, read - toughened glass, hard to scratch, forces companies like ms to improve ui on their systems. see... the only good uses for styli are handwriting (are You handwriting with Your mouse on a pc?) and drawing (again, are You so much better with drawing using mouse on a pc comparing to sketches made with finger on a capacitive touch screen??). imho multitouch is more important than stylus.
qwerty... well... again - do some tests as I did. spb keyboard 4.1.1 trial, landscape fullscreen with clicking sound for better typing feel. I couldn't believe my eyes, as it wasn't much slower (if it was at all) or less accurate.
all I'm going to miss is xperia's still shot quality. some pictures shot in daylight are comparable quality with real cameras, and not those ****ty ones.
... but hey. I won't have to convert videos anymore.
anyway... I will keep my x1 as a backup device and I'll come back in here to share my hd2perience from ex x1 user point of view.
btw, I am not beeing paid for it.
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i am torn between the HD2 and the X2
X2 = slow and keyboard
HD2 = Fast and no keybard
But i am so tempted to get the HD2 - to be honest i cant ever see my self using like the tilewave etc on x2 >.<

yeah... spb ms 3.5.x and manila are mos def better option than panels. have You tried that test with onscreen keys that I mentioned above? this and a visit in local o2 shop to get the feel of it convinced me to give it a go.
the last thing I was worried about was the lack of d-pad, but... honestly I do not play games much. other thing is that with recently hacked multitouch api apps like fpsece could use it in the future for virtual onscreen pad.

bronx said:
BTW: anyone knows what've happened with orelsi?? I almost miss that crazy bugger always knowing better... maybe his xperia finally cracked and he commited seppuku?? lol
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I think he bought a 3GS and is ashamed to show his face around here.

lol... You actually may be right

WhyBe said:
I think he bought a 3GS and is ashamed to show his face around here.
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that would be really funny if it were true.

I think I might upgrade to a N900 after I save enough money - the X1's reception issue is a nightmare, even after testing 8 radio versions. At least with Nokia there is assurance of reception quality - what use is a smartphone if I can't even access 3G?! Or any thing except for WiFi, for that matter. Reception is sporadic at best, and at worse it doesn't even pick up a signal but my Nokia does display full signal strength...

bronx said:
BTW: anyone knows what've happened with orelsi?? I almost miss that crazy bugger always knowing better... maybe his xperia finally cracked and he commited seppuku?? lol
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I think he got 3 crack,

informatico said:
well there will be two of us ... i hate so much capacitive ... but there might be some explanation for this ... my hands get really wet often and touching with the sensitive part of my fingers and swaping around gives me the nerves so i always touch the screen with the nails or top finger ... and not to mention the stylus problem ... I hope there are more people who dislike this thing... Ive heard there are also screens hybrid ... capacitive and resistive screens around.
And what the hell ... I dont get it this finger typing is by default non precise how can you make objects so big that you can use only your finger in such a small screen ... Web pages are not so big and with buttons there are also links ...
This is all Iphone fault
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Well exactly my points.

I am not sure why everyone so upset with X1, except for kinda wimpy 7200 chip.
I like keyboard, and don't really care about resistive or capacitive touchscreen. I am fine with either.
The one thing I don't use that much, but I am certain I would greatly miss is the physical keyboard. I don't think I am going to switch until there is a full keyboard on a snapdragon.
The cracks that everyone complains about are really just a cosmetic issue, and I don't really care too much about it (although I did re-shell my phone to make it black).
It is always kind of interesting to me the various types of devices that people decide to get and why. For the most part I understand each individuals reasoning, but I am yet to be swayed that there is a better device for me.
If anyone knows of a full QWERTY hardware keyboard unit with a snapdragon that is on the horizon PLEASE let me know.
Also, I miss Orelsi in a weird way. I suppose it was just his belligerent insistence on his perspective. I bet he got an iPhone too,
EDIT: I forgot about one thing that greatly aggravated me (although I had same problem on Kaiser) was that the keyboard goes bad and needs cleaning. Because of that I reshelled because I figured if I am gonna tear it apart anyway I might as well make it look like new.

Hannigan174 said:
If anyone knows of a full QWERTY hardware keyboard unit with a snapdragon that is on the horizon PLEASE let me know.
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actually there's one announced quite recently,LG eXpo GW820, 1 Ghz+qwerty,plus finger print security and a detachable projector as an optional accessory. it was initially announced for the american market and didnt mention european market,so we shall wait n see.
you might also want to keep an eye on toshiba n Acer as well,since they both got on the 1 Ghz ladder pretty early but havent make it go with qwerty yet.
btw,I am on the same boat with you, just want a decent processor with qwerty win mobile, not fussy about how advanced the bloody touch screen is going to be whatsoever...

bronx said:
BTW: anyone knows what've happened with orelsi?? I almost miss that crazy bugger always knowing better... maybe his xperia finally cracked and he commited seppuku?? lol
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he said he was using his phone to get on the net as his pc broke, i bet his x1 broke (cracked) so he cant get on the net anymore lol

ok guys. I just got it.
wow... that's all I can say. all You nonbelievers go to Your local mobile phone stores to have a look. bit too large, but I'll get used to it. speed... omg, I never knew that winmo can be that snappy. it's so iphone 3gs fast and smooth that I think I'll jizz in my pants. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4)
one last thing, try it, and forget about anything other than snapdragon. seriously.

johhn said:
actually there's one announced quite recently,LG eXpo GW820, 1 Ghz+qwerty,plus finger print security and a detachable projector as an optional accessory. it was initially announced for the american market and didnt mention european market,so we shall wait n see.
you might also want to keep an eye on toshiba n Acer as well,since they both got on the 1 Ghz ladder pretty early but havent make it go with qwerty yet.
btw,I am on the same boat with you, just want a decent processor with qwerty win mobile, not fussy about how advanced the bloody touch screen is going to be whatsoever...
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Yeah, actually I knew of that, but I am afraid of leaving XDA, so I guess I meant an HTC-based device with physical QWERTY and snapdragon
Nothing in particular against LG, but I am not sure I want to deal with their ugly iPhone-like interface.

The HD2 4.3" screen has been beaten!

Now I am a loving HD2 owner. The only thing I don't like about my phone is the difficulty in typing, but that is another story.
One of the brilliant features of this phone is the 4.3" screen, brilliant for everything. Couldn't be beaten, or so I thought. Then I stumble across this little beauty, with it's 5" screen and running Android.
What do you guys think? Hit or miss?

I think my 32" TV also beats the HD2. The only downsize is it's slightly inconvenient to bring it everywhere in my pocket.
PS: You know what I mean

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694728

I also love my HD2 but i use it as much as a media player/internet browser as i do a phone. I think the phone part is actually secondary to me so something like this looks really good. I can well and trully understand its not for everyone but it should definately have a good strong niche market. Also, once it has froyo it could be really cool.
RReckless

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My bad m8, must have missed that thread.

If you think Evo has quality issues, check out new Iphone's

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/23/poll-is-your-iphone-4-retina-display-seeing-yellow-spots/

o... also
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2475309&tstart=0
i hate to be a hater but damn it's kinda fun

Mine works perfectly in hand with no tinting issues. My Evo on the other hand, pretty much hit every issue like it had a grocery list and didn't want to miss anything.

So if you hold the phone in such a way that you would never naturally hold the phone, then it gets a somewhat diminished signal? How horrible.
the screen issue is bad if it is common. It doesn't appear to be universal.

nice. i'm happy you don't have to deal with two ****ty handsets in a row... that'd just be terrible.
but hopefully this news will soothe the unease some evo owners have right now. even the infallible apple runs into qc issues

k2snowboards88 said:
So if you hold the phone in such a way that you would never naturally hold the phone, then it gets a somewhat diminished signal? How horrible.
the screen issue is bad if it is common. It doesn't appear to be universal.
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don't quote me on this but i think it's hte other way around... plus you gotta consider what a case is going to do to that reception

muncheroo said:
don't quote me on this but i think it's hte other way around... plus you gotta consider what a case is going to do to that reception
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How are you getting along with the smaller screen? Were you an iPhone 3GS user before the Evo?

treo 700p user before the EVO. but i relied on an ipod touch for a lot of things and no, i cna't go back to that smaller screen

Interesting. Since the sides of the iPhone 4 are the antennae, when one holds it against his body he would also be electrically conducting part of the signal, and thereby affecting that signal somehow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ixIHyEPO5g

muncheroo said:
treo 700p user before the EVO. but i relied on an ipod touch for a lot of things and no, i cna't go back to that smaller screen
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Oops! I clicked on the wrong comment to quote. But thanks for your input as the iPod Touch is much the same.

DaytonaZ33 said:
Mine works perfectly in hand with no tinting issues. My Evo on the other hand, pretty much hit every issue like it had a grocery list and didn't want to miss anything.
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How are you getting along with the smaller screen? Were you an iPhone 3GS user before the Evo?

DaytonaZ33 said:
Mine works perfectly in hand with no tinting issues. My Evo on the other hand, pretty much hit every issue like it had a grocery list and didn't want to miss anything.
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Well give me your EVO so I can do your grocery shopping for you.

If the phone in the video is representative of a lot of iphones, then that is pretty bad.

I did a search on youtube for "iphone 4 issues" and for today only. There were a lot of post about this reception thing. seems like a lot of people are going to get this when they get their phones today.
I'm going to show the people at work that I can do a magic trick with their iPhone 4

unknown_owner said:
I did a search on youtube for "iphone 4 issues" and for today only. There were a lot of post about this reception thing. seems like a lot of people are going to get this when they get their phones today.
I'm going to show the people at work that I can do a magic trick with their iPhone 4
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Haha, "watch as I make at&t disappear"
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How could this possibly not get noticed at testing? Was everyone at the bar drinking and not using it instead?
Silly apple.

I can give a **** less.....Iphone still suck

I met my friend tonight with the new iPhone 4. I am very impressed with the quality and feel of the product. Screen is awesome. My Evo looks huge next to it. Like abnormally mutant-like large. Every phone feels tiny to me now. My friend said that it looks like I have a mini iPad.

Apple was planning to use us as an Antenna for the Iphone and give us cancer!!

IS your STREAK getting smaller?

I have had my Streak for a couple of months now and when i first got it the screen seemed HUGE.
Now whilst im still really enjoying it im wondering if i could cope with an even bigger screen................cough.....cough....Galaxy....cough...tab ....ahem
anyone else thinking along these lines?
I dont feel embarassed holding up the streak to my head on the phone and tbh no one has ever looked at me funny when i have done so.
I really dont use my phone much to talk so the size issue isnt that much of a big deal
i still love my streak and i dont fancy paying out £700 for a tab but 7 inches of froyo and flash goodness is tempting.
The Ipad IS TOO BIG!

You should try samsung galaxy tab and viewsonic viewpad 7 both of them is 7" screen and will be coming out soon.

Coming to the Streak from a 7" apad I'd say the 5" is better. The 7" screen is good but still just too big to be pocket portable. If you've a bag or a case to put it in then fine, it's a good working size. 2.2 Froyo might be a problem though if what I read is true. Froyo won't work well on tablets, it was designed for smart phones, even on the steak I see a lot of apps that just don't cope well with the extra screen acreage.

youve become desensitized. go hold an iphone for about 3 minutes. itll seem microscopic and then when you hold your streak again itll feel huge again. and youll be happy you got your streak.

The Jack of Clubs said:
youve become desensitized. go hold an iphone for about 3 minutes. itll seem microscopic and then when you hold your streak again itll feel huge again. and youll be happy you got your streak.
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funny you should say that but i compared my streak to a friends i phone yesterday and it did seem huge
we then drew up a template of a Galaxy tab using the measurements and that seemed very big.
Basically the whole streak is about the size of the Tabs screen!
im not un happy with my streak but as a rare talker on mobiles and i do put my streak in a bag it might be worth a thought esp with phone capability to consider the Tab.
when i want to carry a phone in my pocket i get out my old Hero i.e. in the evenings

The Jack of Clubs said:
youve become desensitized. go hold an iphone for about 3 minutes. itll seem microscopic and then when you hold your streak again itll feel huge again. and youll be happy you got your streak.
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i did just that when i was out shopping, popped into the apple store and compared iphone4 against the streak......i just couldnt put up with such a small screen..

It's never felt that big to me.
I was playing with my advantage the other day, 640x480 5" screen it's bigger than the streak.
How far ahead of the game HTC were with that device, pity they didn't go with Bluetooth keyboard for it, could happily use that and the case it came with the streak then.. except four the magnets everywhere. .
Anyway the steak it's prefect size to me sometimes I wish it were a bit taller in landscape orientation, so I could see a bit more, but otherwise it's fantastic!

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I was playing with my advantage the other day, 640x480 5" screen it's bigger than the streak.
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I used to have one of those many moons ago, very innovative in its time.
I nearly bought an HTC SHift as well also pretty cool and runs win7!

spacecat said:
I used to have one of those many moons ago, very innovative in its time.
I nearly bought an HTC SHift as well also pretty cool and runs win7!
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I know you did I remember

just feels like a normal phone now...i always forget how big it is untill people see it and say..omg what is that...
I had a advantage in the past and was also (still am) tempted to buy a shift...but I use the streak as my main phone..and i do alot of calling and have ALWAYS just used it on my ear and it feels fine...i think its just what you become used to...starts to feel normality to you

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I know you did I remember
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Oh dear that doesn't sound good

dell's size is quite alright, it was not as monsterous as I have expected. i don't know about the 7 inch tab though, might be a bit too big for me

I held my old HD2 the other day and that seemed big at the time, but now it feels small! I remember when i got my HD2, I was playing with it for a few days and then played with my Xperia X1 again and I was like 'whoa this is TINY!' and when i got the X1I though it was big . Weird isn't it.
My sister called for my mum yesterday and I handed my mum the Streak, she didnt know what it was! I was like,its a phone mum, she just held it flat in her hands in front of her and was like 'Hello hello?!', as if she thought it was automatically on speaker phone or something, old people make me laugh!

i played with my touch pro today. ^_^ how did i survive? a two and a half in screen. and i used to watch videos on it! its smaller tall than my streak is wide. still, my streak doesnt feel as big as it did the first day i had it. i dont think i would like a phone that is bigger than the streak, but maybe a larger screen. there is alot of bezel on the streak.

vinokirk said:
old people make me laugh!
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I know. My father was having a hearty laugh last night with my kids playing with Talking Tom on the streak. He seemed to be their age.
You and I will be old one day too! And we will be fun too I guess.

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there is alot of bezel on the streak.
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if the tech ever gets bezel-less it'll be even more awesome!
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the only time I 'notice' the size of the streak is when trying to swype one-handed - it's a stretch!
there's no real down side other than people who haven't jumped the curve to a 5" device yet ;p
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4 inches just isn't enough for me...That's what SHE said!

I played with several 4 inch screen devices and it was JUST TOO SMALL! Now, I'm considering screen size > 4 inches pretty much as a MUST have option.
I'm considering devices like the Acer Liquid (with the 4.8 inch screen) and the Samsung SGH-i997 Infuse 4G (yea right ATT!!) which has a 4.5 inch super AMOLED.
Am I the only one who's been SPOILED ROTTEN by the Streak's 5 inches ????

Nope, I'm right there with you. Those 4" screens, now, appear too small for my eyes.

My wife's Captivate seems tiny when I pick it up. I am really glad I got the Streak.

My Nexus One just seems TINY in my hands now. I love that ppl ask "what is that thing" and I have to explain that it can make phone calls! LOL.
And to be sure, if there were a 5.5" phone, hell, maybe even 6" if it would fit in my pocket, I would jump all over it.

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... And to be sure, if there were a 5.5" phone, hell, maybe even 6" if it would fit in my pocket, I would jump all over it.
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Ditto. I was <b>extremely</b> disappointed when I found out the Galaxy Tab didn't have a phone in it. Put phone capability in that puppy and that would be the perfect phone for me.

Yes, Size Does Matter
I can TROOLY testify to that. Once I got my grabby hands on The Streak, there's no going back to anything with a smaller screen. I tried using my old HTCTilt2, just couldnt do it.

RicoATT said:
I can TROOLY testify to that. Once I got my grabby hands on The Streak, there's no going back to anything with a smaller screen. I tried using my old HTCTilt2, just couldnt do it.
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Exactly, I experienced the same.
One day I went to phones market, the seller tried to offer me Galaxy Tab, I said it is too big. He offered me Samsung Ace, I said it is tooo small and asked him, do you have something in the middle. Defiantly, he replied no it is not available (because dell is not available in my area). Then I showed my sweet pretty dell. .
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I love that ppl ask "what is that thing"
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Lol, I love this as well.

nickshertzer said:
My Nexus One just seems TINY in my hands now. I love that ppl ask "what is that thing" and I have to explain that it can make phone calls! LOL.
And to be sure, if there were a 5.5" phone, hell, maybe even 6" if it would fit in my pocket, I would jump all over it.
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I love the size of the streak. I would not go to anything smaller. It would have to be 5 inches or bigger but still pocketable.
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I agree with you guys,I freaking love when I go to the bar sometimes and enjoy my drink and my Streak.It is so much fun to get online with it or when I am on my recliner at home,my wife used to make fun of me but now when she sees her little android phone she thinks is so small.Even people at work don't make fun of me at all,I let them play with it and now they are all jealous.
I am extremely happy with the rooted Streak and I don't think I could go with anything smaller that 5'.Now I am just waiting for Netflix someday just to make it even better.

Mine seems to get smaller everyday.
Im looking for a 7" (scrren size), hopefully not more than 8" overall; for a tabletphone. Streak 7 has an article with amazons upcoming releases, it says a Samsung and Acer 7" device both with Froyo in March/April 2011. Anyone heard more about these devices
Ideally I would love to have the front mostly all screen, with minimum rom for buttons, mic and front cam etc.
other wishes for my 7" dream phone: 1.2 ghz dual core, 1gb ram, HD graphics, 1200x800 res. , HD front and back cams, oh yeah and 4G whenever AT&T upgrades.

pros and cons either way..
i will say..when i have been geeking on the streak for a week or so and switch back to my hd2 it feels like a novelty item or toy...lol
but truth be told i am not a LARGE man...so the streak is a bit much for a pocket or day to day calling... at least for me..that and the camera flash is pathetic...the camera is ONLY good in well lit or daylight shooting...
NOTE TO DELL..if you want to sell and manufacture phones... use a good camera and music player...
if you cant get either of those right just hang it up .....

All phones are to small now i love my streak

I'm sure you have experienced this one. I use a BT 100% of the time. I'm constantly for work reasons, on the phone, and have to look something up. Most of the time, when I hang up, someone will say "is that your phone"? And they they say "hey xxxxxx", come look at this, THIS is a phone!
Most of the time, it gets passed to 2-3 people that have to put their phone on top of the screen and say "his screen is bigger than my entire phone".

p51d007 said:
I'm sure you have experienced this one. I use a BT 100% of the time. I'm constantly for work reasons, on the phone, and have to look something up. Most of the time, when I hang up, someone will say "is that your phone"? And they they say "hey xxxxxx", come look at this, THIS is a phone!
Most of the time, it gets passed to 2-3 people that have to put their phone on top of the screen and say "his screen is bigger than my entire phone".
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every single day it gets old sometimes because i hate people touching my phone

Ppl say my phone is so big ...i tell em theres is too small
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p51d007 said:
Most of the time, it gets passed to 2-3 people that have to put their phone on top of the screen and say "his screen is bigger than my entire phone".
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so true. i dont get why something bigger seems to boggle people's mind that it can also make calls, shouldnt the bigger it be, the more functionality since the pcb inside has more room for chips? lol

rptw said:
so true. i dont get why something bigger seems to boggle people's mind that it can also make calls, shouldnt the bigger it be, the more functionality since the pcb inside has more room for chips? lol
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....size does matter

ameiurus said:
Ditto. I was <b>extremely</b> disappointed when I found out the Galaxy Tab didn't have a phone in it. Put phone capability in that puppy and that would be the perfect phone for me.
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I'm liking the Streak for it's pocketability, not so much for the screen size. I had a Galaxy Tab and it does have a phone in it, it's just disabled by default in North America. I flashed a ROM on it to make the phone work and was using it all winter.
The only problem is it's only speakerphone without a Bluetooth(SpaceMan)Headset.
Besides a 7" Device would look kinda stupid being held up to your head.
I do miss the HUGE 4000mAH Battery though. Better screen resolution too.

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...Most of the time, it gets passed to 2-3 people...
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I stop letting people FONDLE mine since I saw this guy at the urinal "doing his thing" with his phone in the OTHER hand, then...
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HE SWITCHED HANDS!!!!!

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I stop letting people FONDLE mine since I saw this guy at the urinal "doing his thing" with his phone in the OTHER hand, then...
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HE SWITCHED HANDS!!!!!
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Love to see his face if "it" fell into the urinal with the rest of his business