I know this has been discussed numerous times prior to this handset being released, and that HTC messaging has been cause various amounts of lag when the sms count is more then 20+ for one contact.
Im thinking everyone like me thought this issue would be fixed when the HD2 came out, with its 'power'. But I guess it had nothing to do with how powerful a processor you needed, but good programming, and ram allocation.
I've disabled htc sense, and used the default windows mobile 6.5 interface, but this still uses htc messaging.
So I tried to disable htc messaging using that tweak posted previously. It didn't work. When I clicked on a message in the message tab, nothing happened.
Has anyone with a hd2 emailed htc about this issue? I can't believe we still have this problem.
same here. would really like to go back to native wm threaded messages without disabling the Sense itself which is great..
HTC messaging disable
just google zenyee disable messaging and you will find what you are looking for....i had the same problem...i keep over 400 msgs in my inbox and it just slowed down like crazy...used the cab file on the site and its working perfectly...both sense and standard 6.5 messaging.
check it out.
kushalc said:
just google zenyee disable messaging and you will find what you are looking for....i had the same problem...i keep over 400 msgs in my inbox and it just slowed down like crazy...used the cab file on the site and its working perfectly...both sense and standard 6.5 messaging.
check it out.
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From my first post, I have already tried to use this cab, and it didnt work.
htc should just put a limit to the number of SMS messages to be shown when you open a contact's sms page. For example 20 messages shown immediately and if/when you need to read past messages, you just tap on a "show more messages" button on top of the sms list.. that should work wonderfully..
1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
Eraser85 said:
htc should just put a limit to the number of SMS messages to be shown when you open a contact's sms page. For example 20 messages shown immediately and if/when you need to read past messages, you just tap on a "show more messages" button on top of the sms list.. that should work wonderfully..
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now this should work, right? like on the iphone... the old messages will simply be archived. is there any tweak to do that?
Sounds like it would be an awesome idea. Or just port manila's 2.1 htc messaging.
Otherwise, the quick fix, all you do is push the keyboard logo, then you can compose a text right away.
Beats disabling htc messaging, and going back to the ugly default windows messaging.
blutz said:
1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
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I've tried both of these and neither work for me. I'd love to just have the normal WM SMS editor back!! (and no threading either)
I'd also love to get the damn album saving to \Storage Card\My Documents\My Pictures as well... another #htcfail !!
Disable HTC Messaging on HD2
The Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2 cab works as it says it would, ie default back to MS messaging system & the HTC messaging is no mas.
However, when tapping on a message from the text tab in sence, it does nothing (as it said it would), but there has to be a registry tweak to over come this.
Also, MMS is also no mas! This is a problem for me. I have installed, Arcsoftmms 5.0.31.7.us.cab with not luck. MMS messages go no where.
I have tried Arcsoft MMS composer WWE, also with no luck. This creates the MMS tab under menu/new/ sms or mms. It gives the old Windows CE look of MMS.
Voice command actually reads incoming text messages (which is a plus)
The TellMe app actually sends a dictated text (also a plus) with the Zenyee cab installed.
The lack of MMS is a no deal for me.
So, I recall my HTC HD days with the MIRI ROMS and the Energy ROMS. Miri (as well as Xanny Tech ROMS) roms had an option of ROMS without HTC messaging. These ROMs had the old 2.1 HTC Messaging (everything else M2.5) & WM messaging combined & MMS was present. The energy ROMS actually had both WM & the new HTC messaging enabled (with MMS).
My questions are: is there something I'm missing with this Zenyee cab and enabling MMS? Can I have both HTC messaging & WM messaging with MMS? I would be satisfied with this stock ROM (For now) if answered.
Please Help,
Todd
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The Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2 cab works as it says it would, ie default back to MS messaging system & the HTC messaging is no mas.
However, when tapping on a message from the text tab in sence, it does nothing (as it said it would), but there has to be a registry tweak to over come this.
Also, MMS is also no mas! This is a problem for me. I have installed, Arcsoftmms 5.0.31.7.us.cab with not luck. MMS messages go no where.
I have tried Arcsoft MMS composer WWE, also with no luck. This creates the MMS tab under menu/new/ sms or mms. It gives the old Windows CE look of MMS.
Voice command actually reads incoming text messages (which is a plus)
The TellMe app actually sends a dictated text (also a plus) with the Zenyee cab installed.
The lack of MMS is a no deal for me.
So, I recall my HTC HD days with the MIRI ROMS and the Energy ROMS. Miri (as well as Xanny Tech ROMS) roms had an option of ROMS without HTC messaging. These ROMs had the old 2.1 HTC Messaging (everything else M2.5) & WM messaging combined & MMS was present. The energy ROMS actually had both WM & the new HTC messaging enabled (with MMS).
My questions are: is there something I'm missing with this Zenyee cab and enabling MMS? Can I have both HTC messaging & WM messaging with MMS? I would be satisfied with this stock ROM (For now) if answered.
Please Help,
Todd
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me too
i would ask how i can delete for ever htc messaging and back to wm sms/mms
blutz said:
1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
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My bad, new messages are being threaded from the installation time and onward. I'm happy with this fix.
blutz said:
My bad, new messages are being threaded from the installation time and onward. I'm happy with this fix.
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Do you not have a problem with MMS sending and receiving with this cab installed? Who is your carrier?
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Do you not have a problem with MMS sending and receiving with this cab installed? Who is your carrier?
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I usually post on ppcgeeks but while doing a search, it led me hear and thought to chime in. The standard fix for SMS/MMS issues is to install Zenyees cab to disable messaging, reset, install Picturemail removal cab, reset, and install Arcsoft cab for your carrier. Ever since the 2.5 cooked roms have come out, this has always fixed the sms/mms problems. Tap "all messages" from the messaging screen and you should be good to go. if have previous sms from backup data, it may not all thread but any new messages from here on should be threaded.
hope that helps.
hi any print shot for the final look of how the thread look like?
Anyone having issues with installing the Remove PictureMail & Arcsoft.cab? For some reason it wont install the 12kb
i cant install and disable everything still cannot install Remove PictureMail & Arcsoft.cab
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I usually post on ppcgeeks but while doing a search, it led me hear and thought to chime in. The standard fix for SMS/MMS issues is to install Zenyees cab to disable messaging, reset, install Picturemail removal cab, reset, and install Arcsoft cab for your carrier. Ever since the 2.5 cooked roms have come out, this has always fixed the sms/mms problems. Tap "all messages" from the messaging screen and you should be good to go. if have previous sms from backup data, it may not all thread but any new messages from here on should be threaded.
hope that helps.
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The Arcsoft cab did not work for me on the HD2. it just does not play well with the inbox.
If anyone got this to work, please let us know how
I cannot get HTC Messaging disabled using the 1.2 cab, no matter what the MessagingService.dll seems to load on startup regardless of whether it's entry in HKLM\services\MSG is removed or renamed manually or with the cab. And when I go into the Windows folder to try and rename the file, it tells me I can't as it's loaded into Rom.
I'm on 1.48, could someone point out a fix for this please?
no helper???
There's an SMS Hotfix on the HTC site - maybe it helps?
I just switched over the sense 2.5, I did it to get the better imo people, and calendar tabs, and it finally had landscape support. Unfortunately I didn't realize the messaging tab was so slow when you have a large number of txt messages. I tried zenyee's app which sort of works, I have messaging available through the mail link, but the notification bar jumps to the sense messaging, which lags, and doesn't always show the most current message.
I also can't seem to get the favpeople back up to work either, it won't back up the right number of favorites and seems to fail at restoring them at all. Anyone get these tweaks working or found another work around for them?
anyone got any ideas how to start fixing this?
i use deepshining v8 and i got this to work, but one issue i have now is that my receiving texts are an hour slow
anyone help??
i got it working
to get mms and sms working all i did was install the zenyee diasble htc messaging cab and the dega sense 2.1 messaging...
there is a cab that has both of these together...then i used the mms fix for 2.1 and everything is working properly and fast.
hope this works for you
sms and mms both work, the problem is what is handling them. and for the most part wm client is handling them except in terms of the htc notification bar which sends it over to the htc messaging client. which while a little less laggy with the other patch you mentioned seems to put the time stamp over the bottom half of the message making it illegible.
i've been having problems with my received texts are an hour slow and the notifications no longer show up it just vibrates. the mms also does not work for me
i use the wm messaging client and i dont get the timestamps that you all are taking about. i took out the messaging tab and made the left softkey messaging which opens the wm client directly.
Using Rhodium_AF any ROM version is working flawless with zenyee.
hey guys, so i got my tmobile usa hd2 a week ago and so far its been okay, the phone is so beautiful i love the built quality and the sense UI, BUTTTT the sms lags soo bad sometimes, especially when i have a text message coming in, i restart the phone 1 or 2 times a day it sucks.. i wish i could just use the STOCK windows sms threading style when you disable sense.. :/ any fixes for the lag? or is just windows being windows? im kinda being pulled towards returning it and getting the nexus one..hmm
Hello,
I do not have any lag at all.
2 things I suggest:
delete conversations when you are done
clear all deleted items
Thank you,
Monnie
yeah but i shouldnt have to delete all my conversations tho :/ i mean this thing has 3 times the hardware my touch pro has and it never crashed (i dont have touch flo on) bc of the texts unless i had 6k plus texts in my inbox. lol
ryan74701 said:
yeah but i shouldnt have to delete all my conversations tho :/ i mean this thing has 3 times the hardware my touch pro has and it never crashed (i dont have touch flo on) bc of the texts unless i had 6k plus texts in my inbox. lol
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Try the Zenyee Messaging Cab (search XDA; it's posted EVERYWHERE!) to disable HTC Messaging and re-enable WM Messaging.
I don't know if anyone tried it with the stock T-Mo HD2 ROM yet, so I don't know what the results will be like. Just don't blame me if your phone explodes and plunges us into a world war.
lolol thanks
sumflipnol said:
Try the Zenyee Messaging Cab (search XDA; it's posted EVERYWHERE!) to disable HTC Messaging and re-enable WM Messaging.
I don't know if anyone tried it with the stock T-Mo HD2 ROM yet, so I don't know what the results will be like. Just don't blame me if your phone explodes and plunges us into a world war.
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I just installed Zenyee's cab, and the SMS messaging doesn't have a conversation/threaded view. It's the old 6.1 view, but outlook messaging has conversation vew. Am I missing something? I like the threaded view.
Are you sure the windows messaging client isnt threaded? I may be mistaken but I think that when I disable Sense, my messages are still threaded.
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I just installed Zenyee's cab, and the SMS messaging doesn't have a conversation/threaded view. It's the old 6.1 view, but outlook messaging has conversation vew. Am I missing something? I like the threaded view.
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The "old 6.1" (WM messaging) client should have the conversation/threaded view. On the top right of the screen there should be a drop-down arrow. Press it and choose either "received" or "conversation".
I have those settings...and I'm using a ROM with the WM messaging client.
The feature set of HTC messaging 1.5 is very good.
However, one can see a lag while you are typing as it tries to load the messages in the background.
Would it not be better if the HTC messaging app only loaded the last 10 or so messages and if one wanted to scroll beyond that, the app can load another 10/20 upon demand. Essentially work like the HTC Album. No need to load all the fking msgs in memory.
Can somebody develop a hack to do that? or pass that message on to HTC?
+1 !!!
Just like on previous version [WinMo 6.1] where SMS where sort per pages [10 per pages], so it only loades the last 10.