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Ok, I searched the forums... And I haven't seen anyone with the exact problem i'm having....
It has to do with the unread sms count... But I have already tried fixunreadcount.exe (which did not work)
my problem....
If I am texting someone, in conversation mode... And I just keep replying... Then close out... All those texts that I have received are unread...so I get Tasha (3) in my inbox.... even though I had already read them all....
example....
Tasha: hey
ME: hey, whats up?
Tasha: not much, you?
ME: Same
Tasha: thats cool.
ME:
so now when I go back to my inbox instead of saying no new messages it says I have 3 new ones from Tasha.... So if I click back on the conversation it takes me to her first message (hey) and if i read the whole thing and go back to my inbox it will say Tasha (2) so I have to press her name 3 times just to get my unread count to 0.....
I am using nuerom3, and thats about it....
Anyone else have this problem, or most of all.... a solution?
no one has an answer?
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no one has an answer?
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texting is bugged in neurom3
Ok, maybe this aint completely a pure Xperia Issue, more a WM6.1 Issue. But maybe the solution might be? .. if there is any
I'm a guy that like to get Delivery Notification on my text messages,
not to be confused with Sent noticed, which I find kinda useless, you receive a error msg if the SMS isnt sent anyhow.
But back to the Issue, SMS Delivery Notification.
As it is, you send your SMS and then get a NEW SMS telling you that your SMS was delivered.
(And it dont even bother matching the number to your addressbook, wtf?)
How I want it to work, and had several cellphones that did, is to just flag your sent SMS as delivered.
Does someone share my frustration? or am I just a whining sob?
And does anyone have a solution to this highly annoying(according to me) problem?
Some kinda SMS client for Windows Mobile, or for the Xperia?
The Sent Notification isn't an issue
I don't like it, but I know how to turn it off.
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What I would like... is to have the Delivery Notification /Report,
not as a separate "sms" that dont match against your address book.
But as a "green flag" or something that indicate that your SMS has been delieverd.
Had this feature on my earlier devices, then the SMS-icon was a envelope(as it is now)
and to see that it was sent you saw a "stamp-icon" and when it was delivered it was a
green check flag i the corner of the envelope. Hope you understand me now
I feel your pain.... then I installed advance config and disable the delivery notification... since then, that I am a happy man
i saw this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Reports-Eraser-Pro-69843.shtml
havent tried it yet...maybe you could and tell me how you get on with it ;p
odobo said:
I feel your pain.... then I installed advance config and disable the delivery notification... since then, that I am a happy man
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I think your talking about the Sent Notification, and I despise it ... disabled this too ... but the Delivery Notification I really like, so I can verify that my SMS reach its destination.
billybobjones said:
i saw this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Reports-Eraser-Pro-69843.shtml
havent tried it yet...maybe you could and tell me how you get on with it ;p
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I have looked at this prog too, not used it thou ... It might be a good idea, but still dont understand why they didnt just flag you excisting SMS instead of creating a separate "reporting SMS", especially useless when it dont match the number with you addressbook, or it just me that have stopped memorize ppl:s numbers?
billybobjones said:
i saw this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Reports-Eraser-Pro-69843.shtml
havent tried it yet...maybe you could and tell me how you get on with it ;p
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I use it and recommend it...
Wrekk said:
Ok, maybe this aint completely a pure Xperia Issue, more a WM6.1 Issue. But maybe the solution might be? .. if there is any
I'm a guy that like to get Delivery Notification on my text messages,
not to be confused with Sent noticed, which I find kinda useless, you receive a error msg if the SMS isnt sent anyhow.
But back to the Issue, SMS Delivery Notification.
As it is, you send your SMS and then get a NEW SMS telling you that your SMS was delivered.
(And it dont even bother matching the number to your addressbook, wtf?)
How I want it to work, and had several cellphones that did, is to just flag your sent SMS as delivered.
Does someone share my frustration? or am I just a whining sob?
And does anyone have a solution to this highly annoying(according to me) problem?
Some kinda SMS client for Windows Mobile, or for the Xperia?
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Okey I don't know if this is your answer but I've got a swe xperia as well.
I can write my way in swe and translate to eng but
in messages view, press meny -- verktyg -- alternativ -- SMS/MMS (i listan) -- Begär leveransmeddelanden
(menu -- tools -- alternatives -- SMS/MMS (from the list) -- Demand report on delivery)
This is deliveryreport and it works for me...
I shut off "Message Sent" xith Xperia Tweak from cliffords.
daweeb said:
Okey I don't know if this is your answer but I've got a swe xperia as well.
I can write my way in swe and translate to eng but
in messages view, press meny -- verktyg -- alternativ -- SMS/MMS (i listan) -- Begär leveransmeddelanden
(menu -- tools -- alternatives -- SMS/MMS (from the list) -- Demand report on delivery)
This is deliveryreport and it works for me...
I shut off "Message Sent" xith Xperia Tweak from cliffords.
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Thanx mate, but I think you misunderstand me, or I dont explain myself well enough
The Sent Notification isn't an issue
I don't like it, but I know how to turn it off.
What I would like... is to have the Delivery Notification /Report,
not as a separate "sms" that dont match against your address book.
But as a "green flag" or something that indicate that your SMS has been delieverd.
Had this feature on my earlier devices, then the SMS-icon was a envelope(as it is now)
and to see that it was sent you saw a "stamp-icon" and when it was delivered it was a
green check flag i the corner of the envelope. Hope you understand me now
What network are you on? I know some carriers don't support the delivery notification feature, but on O2 in the UK if you add *0# to the beginning of your message it will send you an SMS back when it's been delivered.. works for me (and *0# are all conveniently placed next to each other on the X1 keyboard, how nice!)
Hehe... I use TELE2 ... and I DO get a Delivery notification /report.
I just dont want it as a separate SMS! or as it say a msg from "System Administator" telling me my SMS has been delivered.
if you read the post I have posted above, I try to explain this a few times.
I do appreciate all you guys trying to help thou!
Cheers!
Same here - Again, the problem is NOT that the delivery notification itself annoys us, we know how to turn it off or on. The annoying part is just the way of presenting the notification. All other phones I had so far (as a matter of fact only Nokias) had a special way of treating the incoming delivery notification, they did not display the notification like a normal text message, but rather marked the corresponding sent text message as "delivered". If I turn on the delivery reports on the X1, I get a new text message for every one I sent. That is stupid
What we are looking for is a way of making Windows Mobile 6.1 read the incoming delivery reports and mark the corresponding sent text messages. Or at least they should not cause the X1 to notify us as the same way a normal text message does (i.e. same sound, same message dialog, etc...). I want to know that a message has been delivered without first having to believe "I got a text message" and then seeing that it's only a delivery report...
Yep, I'm looking for a solution to this issue too. Having recently bought an HTC Touch HD, this is one thing that I think my old Sony Ericsson K610i handled much better.
Would be great to find some tweak that makes the phone treat delivery reports as a status change of the sent text message (sms), rather than as a separate message altogether.
So what you're trying to say is:
Now: - You get a seperate sms saying the message has been delivered.
What you want: - The message in the "sent" folder changes icon when delivered.
Is there a solution for this that anyone knows of?
Thanks,
DankertV said:
Yep, I'm looking for a solution to this issue too. Having recently bought an HTC Touch HD, this is one thing that I think my old Sony Ericsson K610i handled much better.
Would be great to find some tweak that makes the phone treat delivery reports as a status change of the sent text message (sms), rather than as a separate message altogether.
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Finally someone that finds it as annoying as me!
Now tell me you are a kick-ass-win-mobile-developer!
I'm just a low-life-sql-dba-bad-ass
so I cant do **** about this... well except google
Another thing with the delivery report. I once got one when my ringtones were turned off, but the sound came anyway. So my theory is that its recognized as a system message, not a SMS. System voulme was still activated. Anyone noticed that too?
Wrekk said:
Finally someone that finds it as annoying as me!
Now tell me you are a kick-ass-win-mobile-developer!
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Nope, sorry, I'm not much of a win-mobile-developer... However, I did find a small app that actually fulfills my wishes somewhat. It's not perfect, but it's better than the default delivery reports...
Have a look at this site and have a go at SMS Delivery Recipt Fix. The author is active here on the forum, so you can find lots of info on this app in several threads (after all, that's how I found it). I just tried it on my phone (HTC Touch HD running Win Mobile 6.1) and it works brilliantly. The status message is still delivered as a separate sms, but now it pops up in a bubble, and the option to delete it is right there with it. In my opinion, that's a lot better than having to go into the inbox, find the report, and delete it from there. I think I'll stick with this solution.
That bubble with the "delete" option is how it works for me..but this just came with win 6.1, nothing special installed for that feature. Still it would be good to see wich contact is reported about.
But as i read that "fix" is meant to also show the contacts name, i will try that.
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That bubble with the "delete" option is how it works for me..but this just came with win 6.1, nothing special installed for that feature. Still it would be good to see wich contact is reported about.
But as i read that "fix" is meant to also show the contacts name, i will try that.
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Yes, I do feel a bit stupid here, but I realised later that the bubble popup notification is a built-in function of WinMo 6.1... I just hadn't properly understood how to enable it, that only became clear to me once I had installed the sms fix. But, the fix still does a nice thing, i.e. link the displayed number to a name, which looks a lot better.
Yes but from the screenshot is moves the delete link from onscreen to menu / delete..that would be annoying again. Is that right?
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Yes but from the screenshot is moves the delete link from onscreen to menu / delete..that would be annoying again. Is that right?
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Not at all. Look at the screenshots again. The one with a menu is the "new message" notification... There you have more options like "call sender", "delete message", and so on. The first screenshot shows how the delivery report is displayed, and this comes with two on-screen options: dismiss and delete. No menus to navigate here.
I'm having the problem of the SMS sorting in the chat window as names rather than time.
yes I have set the main Messages as time. but during the chat itself it is sorting as names.. and i cant find the sort menu. anyone knows how to set it back to sort by time?
if u can find the icon for sort by name..
it location together with sort by name..
oh btw, i'm using threaded and conversation mode.
ok.
i can find the "sort by > " in the ALL MESSAGES window.
but when you tap on the person's name.
it sorts by
ME
hihi
ME
i'm fine
HER
hey, how have you been doing?
HER
i'm doing great too
when it should be doing
ME
HER
ME
HER
the sms is in a mess
it happen to me too.. and went to HTC for fixing they say they cant help and ask me to wait for patch upload..........
i had already disable htc messager.
how do you disable?
ya, I'm experiencing the same issues. also the time received seems to be an issue as well. odd.
using back the old outlook format but got one issue le..
u canot send or receive mms
check it out [Tweak/App] Disabling HTC Messaging in manila 2.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614&page=30
Hey guys, I havent heard anyone talking about this but i discovered e bug today!
So here's how it goes :
1: I was typing my sms halfway to person A
2: I went to type another half sms to person B
3: I went back to person A's incomplete sms, completed the message and sent out
OUTCOME: The msg went to person B instead!! But on my message chat log, it says that the msg was sent correctly to person A!
Anyone having this problem? So far I only heard of msg getting stucked in outbox, havent heard of this yet!!
why send 2 messages at the same time? seems a bit confusing!
because I was composing a long message to A. Then B needed me to sent an urgent reply over. So I decided to send B a reply first before continuing to compose e long msg to A!
Anw that shdn't be the problem since my previous phones can all handle this kind of multitasking!!
Yes ive had this problem of a message going to the wrong person even though in the log it states it didnt. Was quite a embarrassing text as well ):
exactly what happened to me! I hope this is e ONLY way to send a wrong msg to the wrong recipients without realising. SIIIGH
Anyone knows how do I feedback to HTC so they can make a patch or someting?!
i also have same problem as well as having text window open with person A and then person B texts me and it comes up on same window as my person A page. so now im replying right after this text of person B thinking im replying to person A and it goes to B. this is after i installed cookie home tab 185 and editor 1851 and then resinstall 185 and same thing. now it can also be after that one sms hotfix that is on hd2 site. whatever is the reason is there a way to fix it. also sometimes under swype my delete button wont work for texting but it will work in traditional qwerty so thats another bug as well as when this bug happens i get this other bug when u type with swype every letter has a period like john is j.o.h.n. and space bar wont work.
i dont know whats up right now i backed up with spb backup and will try uninstall cht and see if it was the cause or not but i dont think ive seen any post regarding this issue after posts for cht 185 on xda. any ideas?
i've read several threads about sms messages going to the wrong person.
i would just like some clarification from you guys! are you using HTC's messaging client or are you using windows mobile's default sms messaging application?
personally, i kept HTC messaging disabled on my stock ROM and i'm currently using an NRGZ ROM (Energy ROM "Standard" Sense June 11, 2010) which does away with the HTC messaging out of the box. i much rather like the stock messaging client and it also keeps your messages in a form that is much more friendly and compatible for backup with pimbackup and/or microsoft myphone.
the only reason i'm asking is if someone can confirm if the problem occurs ONLY and SPECIFICALLY with the HTC messaging client or it has also been known to occur when using the stock windows mobile client?
would just like to know if i should also be careful about my messaging practices...
i can confirm its using HTC messaging which i believe is what it uses as stock and when u do factory reset. i have factory reset three times and still get issues.
How do you disable HTC builtin messaging so i can use WinMo one? thanks.
ok i used Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2 to disable HTC and using win mo...it works correctly so far....i have question...how do u turn of the MESSAGE SENT notifcation that pops up after every sent message? i dont see any options for it and under MESSAGE OPTIONS .."request message delivery notification" box is unchecked. thanks
kenograndmaster said:
ok i used Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2 to disable HTC and using win mo...it works correctly so far....i have question...how do u turn of the MESSAGE SENT notifcation that pops up after every sent message? i dont see any options for it and under MESSAGE OPTIONS .."request message delivery notification" box is unchecked. thanks
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You have to get a registry editor and change these keys:
Code:
[B]HKCU[/B]\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\SMSNoSentMsg =1 (default 0)
[B]HKLM[/B]\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\SMSNoSentMsg =1 (default 0)
sumflipnol said:
You have to get a registry editor and change these keys:
Code:
[B]HKCU[/B]\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\SMSNoSentMsg =1 (default 0)
[B]HKLM[/B]\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\SMSNoSentMsg =1 (default 0)
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ok i did that and it works thanks...however i didnt have a SMSNoSent available at the HKCU section but I did see it at the HKLM area and enabled to 1.
i have another issue which you may know about. When you send a text...then when that person replies back, you get incoming text notification. When you click to reply to that person and youre in the reply window where the screen is greyish and theres a SEND button thats on the screen itself next to your reply box, sometimes that window shows my reply back to show up before he replied to my original text so its out of order. However, if you go to ALL MESSAGES and view a specific conversation that way then it shows correctly (this is the text reply white window where you see the colors icons next to the names.
Is this bug due to me replying to that text too quickly? so thats why it was out of order. this only happens sometimes ...im going to play around with it to see if it is only due to really quick replies.
Thanks
also i got this other problem. when you are in home screen and you get incoming text you will see the number 1 on your messaging icon and when you click it and reply to text, the number 1 doesnt disappear, it still treats that text you received as new and only way i can get rid of it is delete text which i would rather prefer it disappear after i read text. anyone can help please? thx
using winmo messaging with cookies home tab185 and editor 1851
This problem was already mentioned here on the forum, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642091&highlight=sms+wrong+contact
One workaround is to use the back or home hard keys instead of the "All Messages" option to travel between conversations.
kenograndmaster said:
also i got this other problem. when you are in home screen and you get incoming text you will see the number 1 on your messaging icon and when you click it and reply to text, the number 1 doesnt disappear, it still treats that text you received as new and only way i can get rid of it is delete text which i would rather prefer it disappear after i read text. anyone can help please? thx
using winmo messaging with cookies home tab185 and editor 1851
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i got my hd2 on june 1st, 2010. i used the stock ROM for 30 full days with HTC messaging DISABLED (i even wrote a guide about it...search for threads started by me in the HD2 general section). in these 30 days, i learned that disabling HTC messaging had no SERIOUS ill effects, but it did have some annoying odd little problems like you've mentioned in the quoted post above. additionally, my "green LED" would keep flashing for several minutes after reading the last unread SMS. another odd problem was that accessing a contact's page within Sense would work fine until i scrolled to the contact's messaging history tab...it would just close the contact's page altogether! i suspect the reason for this was that this tab relies on a fully working HTC messaging client, which i had disabled!
due to these issues (and a few other issues unrelated to SMS messaging), i decided i had familiarized myself enough with the HD2 and its stock ROM...so i went for a good cooked ROM after a few weeks of research. i highly recommend NRGZ's "energy" ROMs (there are many flavors). all the variants of energy ROMs completely EXCLUDE HTC messaging and the stock messaging works 100% properly with no odd side effects.
you can battle these little issues all you want but you can save yourself some time and effort if you can find a ROM that suits all (or most) of your needs.
PS: it would be nice if someone can suggest even more custom ROMs that also exclude HTC messaging, as described in bold above in the second-last paragraph!
DeadVirus said:
This problem was already mentioned here on the forum, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642091&highlight=sms+wrong+contact
One workaround is to use the back or home hard keys instead of the "All Messages" option to travel between conversations.
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that workaround worked so if im on person A window and i have partial reply text going and get a new text from B and when replyin to B with using back button i can text np.
my thing is sometimes when u have like 4 conversations going ...having it listed like in ALL MESSAGES is useful. im still seeing how having 3 conv. behaves with usin back button but thanks for that.
also since cookie home tab uses htc text app ..i wish i can use the text app that was being used in spb mobile shell 3.5. on that one the gui is better and u just press OK on the partial screen u were on and it will take u back to all messages and u can open and reply anyone n it works. this workaround pressing back key is good but i dont want to hard press a key all the time like this i prefer touchscreen . so in meantime im stickign with my cookie home tab 185 and will use back button for now or winmobile one.
p.s. i tested out this issue on my friends hd2 and neither his htc sense text app or the spb mobile shell text app is buggy and both work correctly. so i either can keep doing factory reset til it works right or deal with it.
The new update maybe can help ...
Update for HTC HD2 – New SMS Function Update
Date : 2010-07-05 Category : Update
This update for HTC HD2 amends the internal management of SMS functionality, and enhances SMS transmission stability, and lets you reach out to your friends and family with instant notifications. Keeping in touch has always been very important, and this update delivers just that: fast and reliable SMS messaging.
Download for UK or go to the HTC site for support.
queenkong said:
Hey guys, I havent heard anyone talking about this but i discovered e bug today!
So here's how it goes :
1: I was typing my sms halfway to person A
2: I went to type another half sms to person B
3: I went back to person A's incomplete sms, completed the message and sent out
OUTCOME: The msg went to person B instead!! But on my message chat log, it says that the msg was sent correctly to person A!
Anyone having this problem? So far I only heard of msg getting stucked in outbox, havent heard of this yet!!
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Just one time i get it! I don't understand what's the **** at this moment ^^
Hi, I think you didn't realize unfinished texts should be saved as draft, otherwise it reappear in every new message tread input box in hTC message.
kenograndmaster said:
also i got this other problem. when you are in home screen and you get incoming text you will see the number 1 on your messaging icon and when you click it and reply to text, the number 1 doesnt disappear, it still treats that text you received as new and only way i can get rid of it is delete text which i would rather prefer it disappear after i read text. anyone can help please? thx
using winmo messaging with cookies home tab185 and editor 1851
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This problem was already mentioned here on the forum, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...+wrong+contact
One workaround is to use the back or home hard keys instead of the "All Messages" option to travel between conversations.
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After an RMA and getting replacement phone with latest rom i still had the same problem. However, now thers a fix that helped me that TM said it came out june 8th regarding Contacts issue.
My contacts were saved to SIM only so i had this issue regarding texting wrong person. If you save to SIM/PHONE or PHONE only, texting works correctly. So this is the fix for me at least.
At the moment i saved my contacts out of my SIM and into my account. I did factory reset and then tested out texting without any contacts on PHONE or SIM by using numbers. This worked but you may suspect it may be due to using numbers rather than choosing of contact list? I will know soon cuz im waiting for TM to sync up my contacts from my act. to my phone and she had to create a trouble ticket. So when i get my contact list on my phone only, i will try again and make sure its works. Right now im crossing fingers but i believe it will work.
kenograndmaster said:
This problem was already mentioned here on the forum, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...+wrong+contact
One workaround is to use the back or home hard keys instead of the "All Messages" option to travel between conversations.
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After an RMA and getting replacement phone with latest rom i still had the same problem. However, now thers a fix that helped me that TM said it came out june 8th regarding Contacts issue.
My contacts were saved to SIM only so i had this issue regarding texting wrong person. If you save to SIM/PHONE or PHONE only, texting works correctly. So this is the fix for me at least.
At the moment i saved my contacts out of my SIM and into my account. I did factory reset and then tested out texting without any contacts on PHONE or SIM by using numbers. This worked but you may suspect it may be due to using numbers rather than choosing of contact list? I will know soon cuz im waiting for TM to sync up my contacts from my act. to my phone and she had to create a trouble ticket. So when i get my contact list on my phone only, i will try again and make sure its works. Right now im crossing fingers but i believe it will work.
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I've never had my contacts on the SIM... and I have this problem. If you use numbers it probably works... the problem is with contacts...
i keep getting this blank text message which has what looks like either my sim or storage card icon next to it. the contact or sender is "129(1)".i dont know if i am missing texts or if this is some weird glitch.
anyone know what this is?
ive attached a screenshot of my messages so you can see.
thanks,
jason
Maybe you have visual voice enable in Tmobile account but not seting up in the phone yet.
justwonder said:
Maybe you have visual voice enable in Tmobile account but not seting up in the phone yet.
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hmm, can you please explain how vvm has any impact on text messaging? also what is it i need to do in order to fix this?
thanks,
jason
jason370 said:
hmm, can you please explain how vvm has any impact on text messaging? also what is it i need to do in order to fix this?
thanks,
jason
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Visual voice mail receives its updates via sms, if the app is installed it will intercept these and you will never see them ...
If you have VVM setup and no longer have the app on the phone due to a custom rom then you will see these messages ...
Easiest thing to do is grab the VVM cab and re-install it ...
watcher64 said:
Visual voice mail receives its updates via sms, if the app is installed it will intercept these and you will never see them ...
If you have VVM setup and no longer have the app on the phone due to a custom rom then you will see these messages ...
Easiest thing to do is grab the VVM cab and re-install it ...
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thats certainly very interesting. thank you for that however, wouldnt i need to have gotten a voicemail in order for this situation to occur, if we follow your logic?
i have not hasd a voicemail in quite a few days now. iis this a recurring ping via sms or must it be triggered by an actual voicemail?
thanks a lot,
jason
jason370 said:
thats certainly very interesting. thank you for that however, wouldnt i need to have gotten a voicemail in order for this situation to occur, if we follow your logic?
i have not hasd a voicemail in quite a few days now. iis this a recurring ping via sms or must it be triggered by an actual voicemail?
thanks a lot,
jason
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Yes I do believe it is sort of a "Keep Alive" sort of thing and it may also be a trigger to tell the VVM app to check , or for it to send any changes you have made to the settings ...
i set up vvm, still getting this annoying text. surely i am not the only person to ever get this and surely it must be something?
anyone?
jason
i have gotten these too, ever since i switched to custom roms..... but i've learned to just live with it.... still hoping for a solution though
Weird, I got them Until I setup VVM app, then they went away ...
i get the same thing, almost on a daily basis! i've set up vvm but it still sends me these txt... and for some reason i also get previous txts from my gf with the sim icon next to it as well.
I get them every now and then. I have the stock ROM and did not set up VVM. I learned to ignore them. I don't even delete them anymore.