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SMS Delivery Notification

Ok, maybe this aint completely a pure Xperia Issue, more a WM6.1 Issue. But maybe the solution might be? .. if there is any
I'm a guy that like to get Delivery Notification on my text messages,
not to be confused with Sent noticed, which I find kinda useless, you receive a error msg if the SMS isnt sent anyhow.
But back to the Issue, SMS Delivery Notification.
As it is, you send your SMS and then get a NEW SMS telling you that your SMS was delivered.
(And it dont even bother matching the number to your addressbook, wtf?)
How I want it to work, and had several cellphones that did, is to just flag your sent SMS as delivered.
Does someone share my frustration? or am I just a whining sob?
And does anyone have a solution to this highly annoying(according to me) problem?
Some kinda SMS client for Windows Mobile, or for the Xperia?
The Sent Notification isn't an issue
I don't like it, but I know how to turn it off.
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What I would like... is to have the Delivery Notification /Report,
not as a separate "sms" that dont match against your address book.
But as a "green flag" or something that indicate that your SMS has been delieverd.
Had this feature on my earlier devices, then the SMS-icon was a envelope(as it is now)
and to see that it was sent you saw a "stamp-icon" and when it was delivered it was a
green check flag i the corner of the envelope. Hope you understand me now

I feel your pain.... then I installed advance config and disable the delivery notification... since then, that I am a happy man

i saw this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Reports-Eraser-Pro-69843.shtml
havent tried it yet...maybe you could and tell me how you get on with it ;p

odobo said:
I feel your pain.... then I installed advance config and disable the delivery notification... since then, that I am a happy man
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I think your talking about the Sent Notification, and I despise it ... disabled this too ... but the Delivery Notification I really like, so I can verify that my SMS reach its destination.

billybobjones said:
i saw this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Reports-Eraser-Pro-69843.shtml
havent tried it yet...maybe you could and tell me how you get on with it ;p
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I have looked at this prog too, not used it thou ... It might be a good idea, but still dont understand why they didnt just flag you excisting SMS instead of creating a separate "reporting SMS", especially useless when it dont match the number with you addressbook, or it just me that have stopped memorize ppl:s numbers?

billybobjones said:
i saw this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Reports-Eraser-Pro-69843.shtml
havent tried it yet...maybe you could and tell me how you get on with it ;p
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I use it and recommend it...

Wrekk said:
Ok, maybe this aint completely a pure Xperia Issue, more a WM6.1 Issue. But maybe the solution might be? .. if there is any
I'm a guy that like to get Delivery Notification on my text messages,
not to be confused with Sent noticed, which I find kinda useless, you receive a error msg if the SMS isnt sent anyhow.
But back to the Issue, SMS Delivery Notification.
As it is, you send your SMS and then get a NEW SMS telling you that your SMS was delivered.
(And it dont even bother matching the number to your addressbook, wtf?)
How I want it to work, and had several cellphones that did, is to just flag your sent SMS as delivered.
Does someone share my frustration? or am I just a whining sob?
And does anyone have a solution to this highly annoying(according to me) problem?
Some kinda SMS client for Windows Mobile, or for the Xperia?
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Okey I don't know if this is your answer but I've got a swe xperia as well.
I can write my way in swe and translate to eng but
in messages view, press meny -- verktyg -- alternativ -- SMS/MMS (i listan) -- Begär leveransmeddelanden
(menu -- tools -- alternatives -- SMS/MMS (from the list) -- Demand report on delivery)
This is deliveryreport and it works for me...
I shut off "Message Sent" xith Xperia Tweak from cliffords.

daweeb said:
Okey I don't know if this is your answer but I've got a swe xperia as well.
I can write my way in swe and translate to eng but
in messages view, press meny -- verktyg -- alternativ -- SMS/MMS (i listan) -- Begär leveransmeddelanden
(menu -- tools -- alternatives -- SMS/MMS (from the list) -- Demand report on delivery)
This is deliveryreport and it works for me...
I shut off "Message Sent" xith Xperia Tweak from cliffords.
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Thanx mate, but I think you misunderstand me, or I dont explain myself well enough
The Sent Notification isn't an issue
I don't like it, but I know how to turn it off.
What I would like... is to have the Delivery Notification /Report,
not as a separate "sms" that dont match against your address book.
But as a "green flag" or something that indicate that your SMS has been delieverd.
Had this feature on my earlier devices, then the SMS-icon was a envelope(as it is now)
and to see that it was sent you saw a "stamp-icon" and when it was delivered it was a
green check flag i the corner of the envelope. Hope you understand me now

What network are you on? I know some carriers don't support the delivery notification feature, but on O2 in the UK if you add *0# to the beginning of your message it will send you an SMS back when it's been delivered.. works for me (and *0# are all conveniently placed next to each other on the X1 keyboard, how nice!)

Hehe... I use TELE2 ... and I DO get a Delivery notification /report.
I just dont want it as a separate SMS! or as it say a msg from "System Administator" telling me my SMS has been delivered.
if you read the post I have posted above, I try to explain this a few times.
I do appreciate all you guys trying to help thou!
Cheers!

Same here - Again, the problem is NOT that the delivery notification itself annoys us, we know how to turn it off or on. The annoying part is just the way of presenting the notification. All other phones I had so far (as a matter of fact only Nokias) had a special way of treating the incoming delivery notification, they did not display the notification like a normal text message, but rather marked the corresponding sent text message as "delivered". If I turn on the delivery reports on the X1, I get a new text message for every one I sent. That is stupid
What we are looking for is a way of making Windows Mobile 6.1 read the incoming delivery reports and mark the corresponding sent text messages. Or at least they should not cause the X1 to notify us as the same way a normal text message does (i.e. same sound, same message dialog, etc...). I want to know that a message has been delivered without first having to believe "I got a text message" and then seeing that it's only a delivery report...

Yep, I'm looking for a solution to this issue too. Having recently bought an HTC Touch HD, this is one thing that I think my old Sony Ericsson K610i handled much better.
Would be great to find some tweak that makes the phone treat delivery reports as a status change of the sent text message (sms), rather than as a separate message altogether.

So what you're trying to say is:
Now: - You get a seperate sms saying the message has been delivered.
What you want: - The message in the "sent" folder changes icon when delivered.
Is there a solution for this that anyone knows of?
Thanks,

DankertV said:
Yep, I'm looking for a solution to this issue too. Having recently bought an HTC Touch HD, this is one thing that I think my old Sony Ericsson K610i handled much better.
Would be great to find some tweak that makes the phone treat delivery reports as a status change of the sent text message (sms), rather than as a separate message altogether.
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Finally someone that finds it as annoying as me!
Now tell me you are a kick-ass-win-mobile-developer!
I'm just a low-life-sql-dba-bad-ass
so I cant do **** about this... well except google

Another thing with the delivery report. I once got one when my ringtones were turned off, but the sound came anyway. So my theory is that its recognized as a system message, not a SMS. System voulme was still activated. Anyone noticed that too?

Wrekk said:
Finally someone that finds it as annoying as me!
Now tell me you are a kick-ass-win-mobile-developer!
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Nope, sorry, I'm not much of a win-mobile-developer... However, I did find a small app that actually fulfills my wishes somewhat. It's not perfect, but it's better than the default delivery reports...
Have a look at this site and have a go at SMS Delivery Recipt Fix. The author is active here on the forum, so you can find lots of info on this app in several threads (after all, that's how I found it). I just tried it on my phone (HTC Touch HD running Win Mobile 6.1) and it works brilliantly. The status message is still delivered as a separate sms, but now it pops up in a bubble, and the option to delete it is right there with it. In my opinion, that's a lot better than having to go into the inbox, find the report, and delete it from there. I think I'll stick with this solution.

That bubble with the "delete" option is how it works for me..but this just came with win 6.1, nothing special installed for that feature. Still it would be good to see wich contact is reported about.
But as i read that "fix" is meant to also show the contacts name, i will try that.

nurps said:
That bubble with the "delete" option is how it works for me..but this just came with win 6.1, nothing special installed for that feature. Still it would be good to see wich contact is reported about.
But as i read that "fix" is meant to also show the contacts name, i will try that.
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Yes, I do feel a bit stupid here, but I realised later that the bubble popup notification is a built-in function of WinMo 6.1... I just hadn't properly understood how to enable it, that only became clear to me once I had installed the sms fix. But, the fix still does a nice thing, i.e. link the displayed number to a name, which looks a lot better.

Yes but from the screenshot is moves the delete link from onscreen to menu / delete..that would be annoying again. Is that right?

nurps said:
Yes but from the screenshot is moves the delete link from onscreen to menu / delete..that would be annoying again. Is that right?
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Not at all. Look at the screenshots again. The one with a menu is the "new message" notification... There you have more options like "call sender", "delete message", and so on. The first screenshot shows how the delivery report is displayed, and this comes with two on-screen options: dismiss and delete. No menus to navigate here.

Alternate SMS feature

Hi,
The SMS program (the gray/black one included on a stock Rhodium) is really buggy for me - dates/times being mixed up.
Example;
I send an SMS at 12:00 to my friend.
My friend then responds at 12:01 - but it shows up as if he had responded a few minutes earlier then the time that I sent the first message, say, 11:57
It's really wierd, and I'm not sure whats causing this.
All I do know is that I can't have this, seing how I text message _alot_.
Any suggestions on how to fix this, or how to get rid of the Rhodium SMS interface, back to the functional WM SMS interface?
Thanks!
EDIT: If you don't understand the problem, I'll make a video to demonstrate better.

I have the same problem, i dont really care but its strange anyway...

Are you sure that bot your phone and your friends phone are at the exact time?
Some phone don't write the time at which you receive the SMS but the time when you friend's send the SMS based on the time of his phone and sometime it takes the time of the server that relay the SMS

yup I had my GF adjust her clock so they are in sync. then no more problems!

I may be wrong here but, I think it does this when you text through the tf3d sms. When you read the message on the touch flo screen tap the all messages tab on the bottom left and text back that way. Then see if it still happens.
I'm not a huge texting fanatic but this is how I do all my texting. Through tf3d it doesn't do auto capitalization and such. At least I haven't found a way to do it.

Yes, thats what happens.
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I may be wrong here but, I think it does this when you text through the tf3d sms. When you read the message on the touch flo screen tap the all messages tab on the bottom left and text back that way. Then see if it still happens.
I'm not a huge texting fanatic but this is how I do all my texting. Through tf3d it doesn't do auto capitalization and such. At least I haven't found a way to do it.
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I also prefered the 'old', standard WM SMSinterface rather than this new one, due to this bug - and the lack of auto capitalization.
What would one do to disable the new tf3d smsinterface, and just go straight to the WM one?
Tapping the "all messages" tab on the bottom left just gets annoying after some time, and I really don't prefer it.
Are we looking forward to a ROMupdate from HTC anytime soon, hms?

Sebacestmoi_666 said:
Are you sure that bot your phone and your friends phone are at the exact time?
Some phone don't write the time at which you receive the SMS but the time when you friend's send the SMS based on the time of his phone and sometime it takes the time of the server that relay the SMS
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I synchronized my phones time with my girlfriends phone, and this still occurs - but only with the TF3D SMS program, not the WM one.
It's freaking me out.

I for example had a diferent problem. Someone sends me a message for example 13:56 and I only receive the message later, after I turn on the phone from standby. Calls sometimes give me unavailable. With my older mobile phone I didn't had any problem with that. I was thinking that the radio update will sort out the problem, but no good. Still the same problem. A big lag between send messages and received. Anyone know the cause. I had also the same problem in my Asus P535 but it fixed someway. Even with the phone connected, some times I need to make a call or activate the 3G GSM connection to receive the notification of the message.

List of all problems with HTC messaging on Leo - please add any of your own

Dear all
bought my HD2 sim-free and have been using it for 1-2 days now.
it is manila 2.5.19211619.0 & rom 1.48.405.2 (71294)WWE
while we wait for HTC to allow us to use our GBP500 handsets to send SMS reliably, I thought I'd compile a list of other problems with the new HTC messaging interface - perhaps if anybody from HTC is reading, they could use it as a sort of wish-list. Feel free to add your own woes.
also, if anybody knows any fixes for the behaviour i am reporting here - please let me know!!
1. It sometimes doesn't send SMS (well-known issue, sure - texting myself seems to do the trick so far but hardly ideal to have to check outbox every half hour)
2. It cannot mark received/read SMS as unread (if i'm wrong here, please let me know)
3. it is difficult to select a whole bunch of messages - you ought to be able to hold down and drag to select, say, adjacent 5 messages in the "all msgs" view, in order to then action them (eg. retry send ! )
4. in all messages view, the side-scrolling bar does not enlarge itself after a short tap, unlike in eg. file explorer.
5. when you are composing a new SMS, as you start typing letters of somebody's name, some of the contact suggestions are associated with that person's mobile number (as expected) whereas other contacts are suggested with their *email address* (even when you have the mobile number for that contact) so that it tries to send the SMS to that person's email address. Not very clever. if anybody knows how to fix this please let me know.
6. if you use PIM backup to restore eg. 500 SMS, you may mysteriously find the following day that many of them have disappeared. spooky.
7. it (HTC messaging) is so arrogant that it provides no easy way for the user to revert to WM SMS program. not very "make it mine" is it HTC?
8. (thanks to DavrosMackenzie below for reminding me) what a WEIRD bug - when you attempt to put a ! or ? at the end of your cursor when composing SMS, the cursor reverts to a random point in the message and your punctuation mark is in the middle of some random word.
UPDATE: I have sent the above 8 items to HTC support via email on their website.
9. there is no "SMS sent" notification as there was in eg. WM5.0

Largely speaking I only see 7) as the issue. If the Windows messaging app were easily available then you'd simply be able to choose between a flawless functional app versus stylish but primitive.
However personally I still haven't found a way to revert the the Windows messenger app, all the methods I've found here on the forum fail to work fully. So then I guess I'm stuck too with the other points mentioned. It's all ostly minor to me except 1) of course. If I need to any more complicated message organizing I just do it through the MS My Phone web interface and sync.
Also 4) is a feature not a bug The expanding scroll bars are only for the default native controls which need to be dragged themselves, hence the expanding button for easy finger usage. The HTC scrollbar doesn't need that as the whole screen reacts to a sliding finger for scrolling the view.
The inconsistency is a bit odd I suppose but that's what happens when your on an evolved platform rather than a new one.

thanks for the LIST, have you send it to HTC yet?
I have been bugging them about the SMS stuck in outbox issue every 2nd day ...
you also missed out the SLOW loading SMS while there are more than 20 sms-s in coversation view.~

hmm...for me its the no. 4 which is a bit irritating but i can live with it...since in my case it shows both the number as well the email for the same name...
btw...i know this works for some people and for some dont, but messaging problem seems to go away if you select
1. GSM in messaging
2. put the local mesaging centre number...
havent faceda any sms problem till now...

Instead of using pim backup you should use the sync application microsoft my phone....

Lag when opening messages, we all know about that though.
This one i've only seen one other person mention and thats when i come to put a ! or ? at the end the cursor jumps to some random point in the message, basically means i have proof read every damn message and its starting to really annoy me.
I've an un-branded Vodaphone device thanks to mobiles.co.uk and have upgraded the ROM from the 1.43 through to 1.61 and this nagging little bug has been present in all.
The predictive text has become alot better, to the point now where i can write txts much quicker but the other problems make txtsing a nightmare compared to the iPhone.
I was so pissed off with the iPhone by the end of my run with it but it could text like a dream compared with this, i miss my apps sure but if the texting would work on the HD2 i wouldn't be considering moving back!
Not giving up yet though, will wait for a few more ROMS to come out and maybe HardSPL.

uccoffee said:
thanks for the LIST, have you send it to HTC yet?
I have been bugging them about the SMS stuck in outbox issue every 2nd day ...
you also missed out the SLOW loading SMS while there are more than 20 sms-s in coversation view.~
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the slow sms loading buggs me. i have alot of text messages with my girl and It's annoying to everytime wait a minnit or so. also if you push the soft key menu and wait a second It's loads alot faster.
you may aspect from htc with a phone that costs a fortune it would be near perfect. but this one is nearly done. and dont come with the excuse that no phone is good out of the box, i know that but after al the tweaking i have done to this phone im getting the hang of it. but there are more bugs that anoy me.
1 slow downs in the sense interface.
2. the jittering of the keyboard.
3. the ghost typed key issue
4. and all the minor things what are to many to name.
well htc thank-you for this wonderfull phone. now make it mine.....
btw, could someone tell me where i can find the outbox for the sms utility?

Prom1se said:
the slow sms loading buggs me. i have alot of text messages with my girl and It's annoying to everytime wait a minnit or so. also if you push the soft key menu and wait a second It's loads alot faster.
you may aspect from htc with a phone that costs a fortune it would be near perfect. but this one is nearly done. and dont come with the excuse that no phone is good out of the box, i know that but after al the tweaking i have done to this phone im getting the hang of it. but there are more bugs that anoy me.
1 slow downs in the sense interface.
2. the jittering of the keyboard.
3. the ghost typed key issue
4. and all the minor things what are to many to name.
well htc thank-you for this wonderfull phone. now make it mine.....
btw, could someone tell me where i can find the outbox for the sms utility?
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To view your outbox, you need to have SMS in traditional mode.
Go to: All mesages > Menu > Settings > Traditional Mode.
Has anyone found a fix for this fundamental function of any phone. And we all know this is not a problem with WM6.5 as alot of us have been using 6.5 for some time (myself on my polaris, using Kostas ROM), so therefore HTC really F#@K this up.

I have another one, the sms notification sound almost never gets activated... I am on 1.43 O2.

Most of the time I have to click "compose new text" when in converstional mode at least 10 times before it actually lets my type! It doesn't matter how many messages I have with that contact so isn't a lag thing!

blackheart2925 said:
hmm...for me its the no. 4 which is a bit irritating but i can live with it...since in my case it shows both the number as well the email for the same name...
btw...i know this works for some people and for some dont, but messaging problem seems to go away if you select
1. GSM in messaging
2. put the local mesaging centre number...
havent faceda any sms problem till now...
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I got GSM in messaging, and +xxx in the messaging number.
But I still get SMS stuck in outbox every couple of days ...

HTC Messaging is not working with MMS to email. The pictures doesn't have a last name (extension), and will not be reconiced as an .jpg, and therefore not show in correctly.
Larsen

When I create an SMS and enter the first few letters of a contacts name, all available phone numbers for that person are listed. However, the icons indicating the type of contact number (work, mobile, home, etc.) are incorrect. All are displayed as mobile so I do not know which is the actual mobile number and which are the others. Is this the same for everyone else? I've reflashed to 1.48 and installed the SMS patch from HTC.

A couple of SMS grievances (maybe already answered but I couldn't find)

Hello,
I've noticed a couple of SMS grievances that I was hoping there was a way to address. I'm running the stock rom 1.66.405.2 (WWE) and the HTC messages service.
The first one is that, when typing an SMS to someone I already have a conversation with, as it populates the list the screen will "jump" up a bit and highlight the latest message in the conversation. I can carry on typing, but now the keyboard is covering the text entry view so I have to stop and scroll down. Is there any way of stopping this known?
The other is that when I receive a message, if I am still on the messages tab on the home screen, the notification area icon will remain onscreen even after I have 'read' the message (the green counter on the tab disappears, but I didn't enter the messages service) or deleted it (as I would instantly with delivery receipts) until I move to another tab and come back to messages - or actually go into the service itself. It's annoying because if I lock the screen, the lock slider behaves as if I have a new message and is insistent on telling me.
If I'm not being clear enough, let me know and I'll try and clarify.

the first one is very known and has never been solved so far. there has been a mini Fix... where you add the messages tab to the quicklinks and then it won't happen. Not a fix for manila which i love and wish it wasn't enabled there.
the second one ... i have never solved myself. just got used to it.
Oh well getting a desire soon so will leave this Windows crap behind

may i know what u mean by adding the msg tab to quicklink?
I have tried adding HTC msging tab to the quicklink on the today's main page, but it didnt seem to help the jumping bit.
Really desperately need to solve the sms jumping problem thanks

muliple issues with HD2, seem to be getting worse... please help.

hey guys,
ive always had a few bugs with this HD2 (some seem pretty common, and tolerable/fixable)... but lately ive been having so pretty frustrating problems, causing me to soft reset 10+ times a day.
ill try list these issues and describe them accurately, and if anyone has any suggestion on ways to resolve them... i would greatly appreciate the help.
- often freezes when trying to send SMS messages. i use Zenyee's sms patch, to allow my to use the WINMO client. what usually happens is, i can select to create a new SMS, type the SMS all without hassle... but as soon as i hit the send button (bottom left softkey)... i get the windows loading animation (4 coloured dots circling in center of screen), and thats where is freezes, i have given the phone hours to 'load' and complete the SMS send operation... but it jsut sits there.. loading.
- i have another common issue relating to SMS. it seems the HD2 cannot recognise when i have read an SMS. i receive a new SMS, i open, read, and sometimes delete the new SMS... but sense still displays the 'unread' icon on the slide-bar. S2U2 also is still seeing an unread SMS... but there is no unread SMS. this happens 95% of the time when i receive and SMS. i have to reset to get rid of this notification OR if i reply to this new SMS... once i have dismissed the "message sent' notification, the phone recognises the fact i have no unread SMS.
- quite often i cannot wake my phone up from being asleep, this also seems to happen only when i receive a new SMS. i get the flashing LED (at ear speaker) letting me know i have an unread SMS/call/etc, but upon hitting the hardware buttons to wake phone up... i get no response.
- there are also a few occasions where i dont receive any SMS at all, over the last few days... ive had quite a few people call me and ask if i received the SMS they have sent me. i have also tested this myself, sent myseld about half a dozen test SMS with out receiving any of them. i am still receiving some messages, but there are also quite a few that i am not getting. this issue could be caused by my network provider, thought id mention it anyway.
it seems that most of these issues are SMS related. i did have quite a few texts in my inbox and sent items box (around 1500), but i have deleted many of them and am now down to around 300, and im still having problems.
so... if anyone has any suggestions to resolve these issues... i welcome the advice. before i resort to hard reset.
cheers guys.

[email protected] said:
hey guys,
ive always had a few bugs with this HD2 (some seem pretty common, and tolerable/fixable)... but lately ive been having so pretty frustrating problems, causing me to soft reset 10+ times a day.
ill try list these issues and describe them accurately, and if anyone has any suggestion on ways to resolve them... i would greatly appreciate the help.
- often freezes when trying to send SMS messages. i use Zenyee's sms patch, to allow my to use the WINMO client. what usually happens is, i can select to create a new SMS, type the SMS all without hassle... but as soon as i hit the send button (bottom left softkey)... i get the windows loading animation (4 coloured dots circling in center of screen), and thats where is freezes, i have given the phone hours to 'load' and complete the SMS send operation... but it jsut sits there.. loading.
- i have another common issue relating to SMS. it seems the HD2 cannot recognise when i have read an SMS. i receive a new SMS, i open, read, and sometimes delete the new SMS... but sense still displays the 'unread' icon on the slide-bar. S2U2 also is still seeing an unread SMS... but there is no unread SMS. this happens 95% of the time when i receive and SMS. i have to reset to get rid of this notification OR if i reply to this new SMS... once i have dismissed the "message sent' notification, the phone recognises the fact i have no unread SMS.
- quite often i cannot wake my phone up from being asleep, this also seems to happen only when i receive a new SMS. i get the flashing LED (at ear speaker) letting me know i have an unread SMS/call/etc, but upon hitting the hardware buttons to wake phone up... i get no response.
- there are also a few occasions where i dont receive any SMS at all, over the last few days... ive had quite a few people call me and ask if i received the SMS they have sent me. i have also tested this myself, sent myseld about half a dozen test SMS with out receiving any of them. i am still receiving some messages, but there are also quite a few that i am not getting. this issue could be caused by my network provider, thought id mention it anyway.
it seems that most of these issues are SMS related. i did have quite a few texts in my inbox and sent items box (around 1500), but i have deleted many of them and am now down to around 300, and im still having problems.
so... if anyone has any suggestions to resolve these issues... i welcome the advice. before i resort to hard reset.
cheers guys.
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sorry i do not experience this problem at all and i believe this is uncommon. there is a new sms function update hotfix posted by HTC couple of days back. this updates the messenging client to 2016. try it.

did you try uninstalling your sms cab that you are using and trying that for a few days to see if you still get the freezes? If you are stock you should try the previous posters suggestion and update your ROM and try it without the sms cab and see how it goes.

thanks for the tips guys, ill have a look at the hotfixes. with the telstra ROM i have, i can use the HTC SMS client without the major lag issues - but i still prefer the WINMO client for the folder support and other functions that are absent in the HTC client.
ill check out your suggestions, and let you know how it goes.
cheers again for taking the time to read and reply.

after looking at the htc site, i have noticed that the new SMS hotfix only applies to ROM versions less than 1.66.
that suggests my current ROM may already have these fixes applied.
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
cheers for the help though.

[email protected] said:
after looking at the htc site, i have noticed that the new SMS hotfix only applies to ROM versions less than 1.66.
that suggests my current ROM may already have these fixes applied.
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=812
cheers for the help though.
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i'm running 1.66 ROM and is still able to install. I still think there is no harm downloading and try installing the hotfix. if it says unable to install, so be it. =)

fair call, im downloading it now. will certainly let you know how it goes.
thanks mate.

I installed HTC's SMS hotfix, and it seems they have increased the folder support in their SMS client. previously... from what i can remember, they had only a few SMS folders visible in their client, i think it was 'inbox', 'sent' and 'drafts'. now they have increased this and added 'outbox' and 'deleted items'.
anyway, this newer version of the HTC SMS client is much more usable than previous incarnations of this client.
and having removed zenyees SMS patch... i have had no repeat offences of any of the above listed issues. it has only been 12 hours-ish... but it is looking good so far.
the only problem i have now with the HTC SMS client is the integration with S2U2 (SMS slide to view defaults to conversation mode in the HTC client - i would prefer traditional mode). and also there is a text selection issue in the new message screen. i use the swype SIP and i frequently need to fix up my incorrect word inputs, in the WINMO client, this was easy (double tap the word, the select the correct word from the word suggestion list), however... in the HTC SMS client... double tapping does not select text, sometimes if i tap 4 times i can select the word and promt swype's word suggestion list to appear... but not always).
but these issues with HTC's SMS client are far more tolerable than the problems i was experiencing with the WINMO client.
thanks for all your help guys.
i will keep you posted on further developments.
cheers.

Glad that the hotfix helps in one way or another. On the other hand, now we all knows this hotfix doesn't actually limit to ROM 1.66 and below.

it does seem to increase to functionality of the HTC SMS client. but between 1 ROM upgrade and almost never using the HTC client... i cannot be 100% sure that these new 'features' are infact new. i know the 1.6X telstra ROM had a pretty weak HTC SMS client, and they did improve it alot for the 1.7X ROM - lessened the lag, and a few other fixes. after i upgraded to the 1.7X ROM, i still used the SMS patch to have the WINMO client as my default... so i never payed to much attention to that version of the HTC SMS client.
as i posted above, i have now noticed the improved folder support in the HTC SMS client... but i cant be 100% sure that this is a result of the 1.7X ROM upgrade... of the SMS hotfix. though i do think it was the hotfix, and the hotfix certainly did install without issue.
so if anyone else is using the latest telstra stock ROM.... what is the HTC SMS client like? enhanced folder support? less lag?
cheers again.