I m here to enquire if any1 uses memory cleaner on the device.i need 1 urgently,a good 1 coz my processes are too high and 1ce the program memory reaches 51-52%,the device becomes tad slow...i need some good cleaners.i have tried using Clean RAM 2.2 in the past,but it didnt help me much...looking for some better options....
The one you was using in the past is the best memory cleaner app. aviable for windows mobile.
I use it and it works great.
Memory Leaks...Stopped Finally...
well,any1 facing memory leaks on the device,i have installed cleanRAM from hTC addicts.com...using the customized processes listhave checked INCLUDING level 1,RESET processes Mode,set for 3 secs,and included all the running processes(NOT THE HIDDEN PROCESSES THOUGH)...this helps the device free RAM upto 2.80 MB...a great way to keep away from pulling the back cover and resetting the device...
shreyas18 said:
I m here to enquire if any1 uses memory cleaner on the device.i need 1 urgently,a good 1 coz my processes are too high and 1ce the program memory reaches 51-52%,the device becomes tad slow...i need some good cleaners.i have tried using Clean RAM 2.2 in the past,but it didnt help me much...looking for some better options....
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sktool's shadow cleaner works great for me. try dat one...
akhilsaini2001 said:
sktool's shadow cleaner works great for me. try dat one...
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Thank You...Will surely try.!!
This, I think might sound stupid, but what I have noticed is most of these programs are quite annoying, so the best solution i have come up with so far is to just use a good Task manager and end unnecessary processes.
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This, I think might sound stupid, but what I have noticed is most of these programs are quite annoying, so the best solution i have come up with so far is to just use a good Task manager and end unnecessary processes.
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well yes, dats also taken care of by sktool, just create a autokill list of processes u think are unnecessary and will save memory n u r done. after all who wants to kill processes every time u reset ur phone.
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What's that about?
I've never used Task Manager so much in my life.
I'm not sure the thinking behind this.
Get the TouchX Taskmanager off this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4947950&postcount=1
Then, on the home tab, drop down the task manager (top right corner) and you can change the options (wrench) so that apps close when you click X. It also gives you a dropdown list of running apps so you can switch between them.
Hope this helps
Thanks John.
It still leaves me baffled though at the choice of doing things the way HTC have done. Surely there's going to be many consumer out there that don't even know what a Task Manager is, who will be running slow phones with no idea why.
Or maybe they all bought an iPhone.
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Thanks John.
It still leaves me baffled though at the choice of doing things the way HTC have done. Surely there's going to be many consumer out there that don't even know what a Task Manager is, who will be running slow phones with no idea why.
Or maybe they all bought an iPhone.
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You can also get Microsoft's perspective on this Here
This is not an HTC issue- PPC and WinMo have always minimised apps by default unless the application itself has a Menu/Quit routine.
HTC have previously utilised their own Task Manager, which for some reason they didn't include in the HD2 hence the need for external apps such as JCM suggested. Maybe they thought 200MB was ample- compared to the 16MB of the early PPC devices?
In general I've not encountered any slowdowns, but I tend not to use many apps that stay memory resident.
If you press and hold the X, instead of just tapping it, it will properly close the program. That option is within the Task Manager on the phone, in the settings of the phone.
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If you press and hold the X, instead of just tapping it, it will properly close the program. That option is within the Task Manager on the phone, in the settings of the phone.
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I couldn't find this option on my brother's HD2 (T-Mobile). I've seen it on all previous devices that I've add.
Will have to try the other suggestions here.
Yep, in my T-Mobile UK build I can only access the SENSE settings and not the windows mobile settings that allows you to change taskbar settings.
Grrr
That's because the task manager button in the home page was removed for this version of Sense. Literally the first thing I did when I got the phone was to find out how to add that back.
I personally think it's a stupid idea, so I'm glad for this wonderful resource that we know as xda!
Dang was hoping for a registry setting,
Any idea how turn turn on windows settings only?
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Thanks John.
It still leaves me baffled though at the choice of doing things the way HTC have done. Surely there's going to be many consumer out there that don't even know what a Task Manager is, who will be running slow phones with no idea why.
Or maybe they all bought an iPhone.
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Having the programs already cached in memory allows faster access with successive uses. windows mobile automatically closes background programs should available memory get too low.
There are many threads on this site about increasing available memory on devices to increase speed, but many of the ideas are counter productive, because best speed is obtained when items are preloaded into memory. this is why there is great performance boost by increasing file system cache and glyth cache ect. but this comes at a memory cost
Slow device will only occur when memory runs out, this is pretty rare on modern phones (Touch pro and onwards) especially when using WM 6.5.
Remember, you have paid for that memory in your phone, so make sure to use it and not leave it empty so you can look at your task manager and see 50% free just to think it makes your phone quicker
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Remember, you have paid for that memory in your phone, so make sure to use it and not leave it empty so you can look at your task manager and see 50% free just to think it makes your phone quicker
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Good points rumple.
It's all those years of Windows use that have made me believe that killing processes is the cure for most evils. I'll have to retrain my thinking.
Do minimized programs use much battery?
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Do minimized programs use much battery?
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Depends on the program. If it's one that only does things when you interact with it (press buttons, scroll stuff etc.) then no. If it does other things then it may well do, but it obviously varies greatly and depends what it does.
Hi Guys!
I've seen soo many post: "Use a Task Killer for better battery life!"
But I've probably seen that much post: "DON'T use a Task Killer... The continuous killing of tasks drains the battery! Android manages the Tasks internal..."
So now I'm confused
Should you use a Task Killer or shouldn't you?
I haven't used a task killer in ages. With the latter kernels and builds they are pretty irrelevant I feel. There is better memory management and CPU usage with the latest kernels to make task-killers all but obsolete.
You don't have to use them anymore. If you want to have more free RAM you could use Auto Killer (free in the market). There you can set the presets to Optimum. But I have to say that my data drops have reduced since I don't use it anymore.
It's a little off topic but what I wanted to ask you, do you have lots of drops in the Swisscom network? Because I think those drops only happen if you have a bad network connectivity. Btw. I'm working for Sunrise
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I haven't used a task killer in ages. With the latter kernels and builds they are pretty irrelevant I feel. There is better memory management and CPU usage with the latest kernels to make task-killers all but obsolete.
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agreed i only see the use for a task killer if it gets stuck on exit of the program or task
Ok... It seems I won't need a task killer... But I'm using now AutoKiller with preset to Optimum
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You don't have to use them anymore. If you want to have more free RAM you could use Auto Killer (free in the market). There you can set the presets to Optimum. But I have to say that my data drops have reduced since I don't use it anymore.
It's a little off topic but what I wanted to ask you, do you have lots of drops in the Swisscom network? Because I think those drops only happen if you have a bad network connectivity. Btw. I'm working for Sunrise
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About the drops... I'm using this build (PPP) now for about one day^^ - But until now it's working like a charm (mobilespeedtest.com gives me a bandwith of ~2000kbps - 2Mb file tested)
In previous builds (RMNet) it worked quite good too, but sometimes it wasn't really fast... But I haven't had a full data-drop (You would need to reboot to solve it don't you?)
EDGE-Data doesn't work at all... (But E-Data Logo is in notification-bar). Probably an APN-Setting is missing or I don't know. I don't really miss it in daily use. Just in trains it's sometimes annoying...
What happens to programs that you "close" is that they are put in the RAM and saved for later use to switch quickly to them. However, most programs don't use the CPU (therefore don't really waste much battery life). Therefore, actually closing and opening the app wastes MORE battery life than just leaving it "open". The only time you really need a task killeris if you start running out of RAM (which is HARD on the HD2).
theres a game named pocket legends , theres no exit button(as most of the android apps) , if i put it in the bg with home button , my phone will stutter all over , even contacts list is laggy becuz of high cpu usage ... what would u guys do who have no taskiller in a situation like that ??
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theres a game named pocket legends , theres no exit button(as most of the android apps) , if i put it in the bg with home button , my phone will stutter all over , even contacts list is laggy becuz of high cpu usage ... what would u guys do who have no taskiller in a situation like that ??
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This is kinda true, but I was more talking about Automatic Task killer.
I use SystemPanel Lite as my Taskmanager and System control
souljaboy said:
theres a game named pocket legends , theres no exit button(as most of the android apps) , if i put it in the bg with home button , my phone will stutter all over , even contacts list is laggy becuz of high cpu usage ... what would u guys do who have no taskiller in a situation like that ??
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If a program doesn't have an exit button, use the back button, as this will normally close the application or game instead of pressing home, as this leaves the app open.
Luke3113 said:
About the drops... I'm using this build (PPP) now for about one day^^ - But until now it's working like a charm (mobilespeedtest.com gives me a bandwith of ~2000kbps - 2Mb file tested)
In previous builds (RMNet) it worked quite good too, but sometimes it wasn't really fast... But I haven't had a full data-drop (You would need to reboot to solve it don't you?)
EDGE-Data doesn't work at all... (But E-Data Logo is in notification-bar). Probably an APN-Setting is missing or I don't know. I don't really miss it in daily use. Just in trains it's sometimes annoying...
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Same for me, I'm using PPP now for about 1 month (mattc 1.8, a little older but this build is it really worth, soooo smooth). And you are right, here in Swiss the connection is always very good (except you live somewhere in the "pampa" )
If you have a drop, just go to airplane mode and back, that always solved for me. EDGE does work for me, but it is veeeeery slow.. kinda annoying. And as you said, this only happens in trains.
It's really pretty simple I think.
(Have a task killer ATK free for me).
Set it to ignore almost everything.
Don't have it auto kill
Still don't have it auto kill
Open it when you need it to kill buggy, stuck apps.
Is there anything you can argue with about this approach? It seems that people are arguing past each other because one side says "don't have a task killer" and the other side says "how can I kill problem apps then?". These aren't mutually exclusive.
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If a program doesn't have an exit button, use the back button, as this will normally close the application or game instead of pressing home, as this leaves the app open.
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Never used task killer, only AutoMemory Killer to optimize Froyo memory management. coming from computer we thing that "more free ram you have, more fast it will be", this is not true on Android.
It works in the same speed if you have 200mb free ram or if you have 5mb free.
When it reaches some values, the system automatically freeup ram closing not more necessary tasks.
You can change those value when the system act, using Auto Memory Killer
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theres a game named pocket legends , theres no exit button(as most of the android apps) , if i put it in the bg with home button , my phone will stutter all over , even contacts list is laggy becuz of high cpu usage ... what would u guys do who have no taskiller in a situation like that ??
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I'd close it manually, Settings > Applications > Manage Applications then force stop it. Sounds to me like that's one buggy piece of software tho. If it's in the background it shouldn't use CPU time, only a bit of ram to suspend it.
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I'd close it manually, Settings > Applications > Manage Applications then force stop it. Sounds to me like that's one buggy piece of software tho. If it's in the background it shouldn't use CPU time, only a bit of ram to suspend it.
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yep , thats what i did ... but i also have a Close All Apps button on my 7th screen hidden from view with a i use from time to time when a browser gets stupid etc
Many people say it's harmful using app killers, especially on android as it may interfere with important system resources or close important system files and can do harmful damage in the longrun such as errors, things not working, etc...
When you open various programs such as file manager, picture gallery, etc you then see a list of all running programs in system/task manager.
Many of these running programs are ones you have recently used and are draining ram/cpu/battery.
Is there not ANY safe app to use that will ONLY close apps that YOU have used?
There must be some app out there that closes/kills open apps, not system or phone apps but only the ones you have installed and used?
This could be a ram killer or maybe a simple app which is not dangerous and will safely close running apps not needed.
Looking forwards to seeing what others recommend.
Thanks in advance guys,,,
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There must be some app out there that closes/kills open apps
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yes, there are, but android just restarts them after they have been closed (froyo only)
panyan said:
yes, there are, but android just restarts them after they have been closed (froyo only)
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Names please of a good app that kills ONLY programs you open, not system files.
What if I was to install an appkiller, but instead of having it on autokill, I was to manually click apps I opened and kill them?
Surely this way there is no danger as I'm only closing selected apps, not system files?
kanej2006 said:
Names please of a good app that kills ONLY programs you open, not system files.
What if I was to install an appkiller, but instead of having it on autokill, I was to manually click apps I opened and kill them?
Surely this way there is no danger as I'm only closing selected apps, not system files?
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The point is, even after killing your own apps, most of the time froyo will restart them
I very much like ES' offerings - ES File Explorer and ES Task Manager. They're both free, give em a birl.
You can install Advanced Task Killer (free) and there you can perfectly select which apps to close and which not... still I rarely use it
for example your homescreen widgets are always unchecked when killing tasks, so unless you check them, they won't be killed...
Hmmm, ok.
What is the BEST way to preserve & save battery/cpu & free up as much ram as possible without harming/interfering with the phone??
When I used to use the task killer app it would consistently give me around 400-424mb free ram.
Without the app killer I would only have around 100mb of free ram since all the programs are running in the backround.
So to all you experts out there, what can I do or what options do I have in which I can safely free up as much ram as possible and safely close running apps not needed when not using the phone?
I just want the best and most effective way to make my battery last longer.
I'm having to charge my phone every day, it struggles to get through the day even when hardly used.
Looking forwards to hearing some expert opinions based on the above.
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I'm having to charge my phone every day, it struggles to get through the day even when hardly used.
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There's definitely a problem there but you're not going to find it chasing free ram. I have approx 20Mb free ram at the moment, the phone hasn't been rebooted for at least a week but I'm easily getting through 2 days with light use. Task killers / app killers are not the answer, (in froyo at least) free ram is wasted ram.
The programs that are 'running' in the background are not actually using CPU resources unless they have a service running (see the eBay app/service for an example). Your best bet is to check the running services (settings/applications/running services) and battery usage to work out what process is hogging the CPU time. Also check your sync settings, though I'd imagine you've already tried that.
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There's definitely a problem there but you're not going to find it chasing free ram. I have approx 20Mb free ram at the moment, the phone hasn't been rebooted for at least a week but I'm easily getting through 2 days with light use. Task killers / app killers are not the answer, (in froyo at least) free ram is wasted ram.
The programs that are 'running' in the background are not actually using CPU resources unless they have a service running (see the eBay app/service for an example). Your best bet is to check the running services (settings/applications/running services) and battery usage to work out what process is hogging the CPU time. Also check your sync settings, though I'd imagine you've already tried that.
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Maybe it's the anipet fish aquarium live screensaver...
Systempanel is good, I use it to stop a bad app thats using to much memory..you should never kill your apps with froyo, the OS wasn't designed like that, thats the whole point of Android, it looks after the apps perfectly well by itself, systempanel is just there as a....just in case method.
Saving battery power is a common misconception, Task killers actually get in the way of Android handling memory management as intended.....a pointless app to have with 2.2 which actually drains you battery quicker.
The LCD screen is the biggest drain on battery power, turning the brightness down, stop using a live wallpaper, turn off wifi, bluetooth, GPS ect....
With all that said the 1250mah battery is just not powerful enough to run this device period...but then most of us knew this before we bought the phone..we needed a 2000mah battery really, its just a lipo battery and can be easily increased, maybe next year we will see an improvement in the new smartphones.
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Maybe it's the anipet fish aquarium live screensaver...
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I hope you're joking
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I hope you're joking
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LOL, well some people do say that live wallpaper kills battery...
I've read some posts and people said they are killing more battery.Other people said that they're good.So are they safe for your phone,or they can harm it.
I've used task killers since I got my phone and hadn't got a problem.
I found the answer by myself:
http://lifehacker.com/#!5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
I tested ATK with 2.1 2.2.1 2.3.2 using my phone (Gps, 3g - ON) with same apk on board each ROM and modarate killing and my battery last longer without ATK.
Peace
Sent from my GT540 using XDA App
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I tested ATK with 2.1 2.2.1 2.3.2 using my phone (Gps, 3g - ON) with same apk on board each ROM and modarate killing and my battery last longer without ATK.
Peace
Sent from my GT540 using XDA App
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I got rid of my task killer.I will provide some feedback after some use.Thanks for the reply by the way.
its good n safe if u use it wisely
i ever killed a running system n my phone become frozen
I've been using AutoKiller Memory Optimiser which utilises presets and works well with rooted phones.
i think not
Task killers aren't necessary for Android 2.1 and above. Google has optimized the system so that if you run out of memory, it will start automatically killing unused apps in the background. Even though you might see that only around 20MB of RAM is available doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It means that you can load up your recently used apps more quickly as it is already "cached" in your memory.
Killing apps may also disrupt other system processes that require it to run properly. However, if you want to save that extra battery then a task killer is good to use. Otherwise, task killers are not necessary. I would recommended downloading an app called "Watchdog" in the market. What this app does is monitors your running apps for any memory hoggers. This allows you to kill that app or uninstall it.
This is just my thoughts and may not be entirely correct. Anyone wishing to correct me is welcome to.
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MegaBubbletea said:
Task killers aren't necessary for Android 2.1 and above. Google has optimized the system so that if you run out of memory, it will start automatically killing unused apps in the background. Even though you might see that only around 20MB of RAM is available doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It means that you can load up your recently used apps more quickly as it is already "cached" in your memory.
Killing apps may also disrupt other system processes that require it to run properly. However, if you want to save that extra battery then a task killer is good to use. Otherwise, task killers are not necessary. I would recommended downloading an app called "Watchdog" in the market. What this app does is monitors your running apps for any memory hoggers. This allows you to kill that app or uninstall it.
This is just my thoughts and may not be entirely correct. Anyone wishing to correct me is welcome to.
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Thanks for your reply.I also think that they aren't necessary.In the link above I read that task killers are dangerous for your phone.They are slowly killing your CPU and after some time the phone may start to crash.
Well i'm using a taskkiller and it doesn't do any harm.. And I think it makes my battery last longer.. But that might just be some kind of "placebo effect"
I personally don't use them on my phone, but on my tablet, I use them as it can get very slow without it.
Haque92 said:
Well i'm using a taskkiller and it doesn't do any harm.. And I think it makes my battery last longer.. But that might just be some kind of "placebo effect"
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I also thought that they were great,but after doing some research I decided to remove my task killer.My phone is working as smooth as before.But that's just me.
seems it will automatically kill my Sense UI and i need time to reload it again after quitting the app, may i ask if any one know how to prevent this? i have set the lower oom but it say this setting cant last long..
BTW it kills my alarm also..
pls suggest some task killing software in which u think is gd..thanksss!
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seems it will automatically kill my Sense UI and i need time to reload it again after quitting the app, may i ask if any one know how to prevent this? i have set the lower oom but it say this setting cant last long..
BTW it kills my alarm also..
pls suggest some task killing software in which u think is gd..thanksss!
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Is there a reason you need a task killer?
Most of these are unnecessary. My understanding is that Linux uses memory different than windows and it is not necessary to kill background processes. Those apps are not using system resources, they load but generally do not use additional memory or cpu until they are needed to do something. Every time your phone has to process to kill stuff off you are using the processor, battery and resources and often android will releoad them anyways.
From my experience, I get more speed and bang for the buck by just turning off window animations.
But I could be wrong, lol, your mileage may vary..................
cyberstoic said:
Is there a reason you need a task killer?
Most of these are unnecessary. My understanding is that Linux uses memory different than windows and it is not necessary to kill background processes. Those apps are not using system resources, they load but generally do not use additional memory or cpu until they are needed to do something. Every time your phone has to process to kill stuff off you are using the processor, battery and resources and often android will releoad them anyways.
From my experience, I get more speed and bang for the buck by just turning off window animations.
But I could be wrong, lol, your mileage may vary..................
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The issue is that some apps, even when not actively being used by the user, will continue to utilize system resources. However, there are several arguments all over these forums that task killer's typically do more harm than good. I still use "Advanced Task Killer" though.
you might like to read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
wingsaba said:
you might like to read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
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Thanks for the link; that was very useful info, reading it now.
DonJuan692006 said:
The issue is that some apps, even when not actively being used by the user, will continue to utilize system resources. However, there are several arguments all over these forums that task killer's typically do more harm than good. I still use "Advanced Task Killer" though.
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I used to use advanced task killer for a awhile. Don't know if it was my obsessive nature checking the thing or just the program, but battery life was a bit poor, lol. In the end I just gave up and stopped using it.
I don't like task killers.
Its saves memory but increases CPU usage.
after making these changes my phone is flying. good find!
dedraks said:
I don't like task killers.
Its saves memory but increases CPU usage.
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yes, indeed...
alarm fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12043283#post12043283
http://www.dustypixels.com/blog/2010/02/01/android-app-minfreemanager-v1-5/