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Video Out on N1 is Possible ?

It turns out that even with ExtUSB gone, which someone else pointed out prevented video out in the old fashion, HTC has figured out how to incorporate video out.
http://androidandme.com/2010/04/news/droid-incredible-does-tv-out-video/
This article says the Incredible, unlike the Evo 4g, does not use HDMI to do video out. It just uses the regular micro USB port, with composite ends on the other side.
Like the other person said before, thats not exactly 1080i, but it's gonna look fine in my car.
By the way.... THATS what I'ld like to see someone develop. Take the Incredible ROM, go through it, find whatever makes the video out work, and port it over to the N1 roms! Is that even possible?
And please, don't ten people say well don't demand of the devs, learn it yourself... if its impossible, or will take a long time, or whatever, I will wait patiently.

I'd be very surprised seeing as how the usb output on the nexus is very low (2MB/s), unless this is strictly a software stop.

trevorwhopkins said:
It turns out that even with ExtUSB gone, which someone else pointed out prevented video out in the old fashion, HTC has figured out how to incorporate video out.
http://androidandme.com/2010/04/news/droid-incredible-does-tv-out-video/
This article says the Incredible, unlike the Evo 4g, does not use HDMI to do video out. It just uses the regular micro USB port, with composite ends on the other side.
Like the other person said before, thats not exactly 1080i, but it's gonna look fine in my car.
By the way.... THATS what I'ld like to see someone develop. Take the Incredible ROM, go through it, find whatever makes the video out work, and port it over to the N1 roms! Is that even possible?
And please, don't ten people say well don't demand of the devs, learn it yourself... if its impossible, or will take a long time, or whatever, I will wait patiently.
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Pretty sure that's impossible. The port is different, so the cable that connects the Incredible to a TV wouldn't fit in an N1.
What kind of TV setup do you have in your car by the way? In the dashboard, or a TV in the backseat?

I think the ports are the same , just software or the cable enable the output ....I hope
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TittieBaby said:
I think the ports are the same , just software or the cable enable the output ....I hope
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The ports are definitely different. Pictures for proof:
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http://technoclicker.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/nexus-one-google-1.jpg
http://the-gadgeteer.com/2010/04/19/htc-incredible-first-looks/

they're both microusb ports, should be the same.
but, composite out? bleh. composite can only carry 480i, not even 480p, i don't think. i know it can't handle anything higher than 480 lines of resolution

TV Out
Something like this would make me finally get that engagement ring for my Nexus One.
"Nexus One... Will you let me hook you up to my gigantic TV monitor?"

timothydonohue said:
they're both microusb ports, should be the same.
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Look at the pictures... They're clearly different.

Paul22000 said:
Look at the pictures... They're clearly different.
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micro a and b, they are technically the same port, but one fits into both but not the other way around

Here's the OEM HTC video-out cable:
http://www.amazon.com/OEM-HTC-Out-Cable-ACT100/dp/B002OOZDSE
Does it work on the N1? No idea... but I'm guessing currently not.
Cheers,
Kermee

Kermee said:
Here's the OEM HTC video-out cable:
http://www.amazon.com/OEM-HTC-Out-Cable-ACT100/dp/B002OOZDSE
Does it work on the N1? No idea... but I'm guessing currently not.
Cheers,
Kermee
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Good find.
I did a search for HTC ACT100 and found this one as well:
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Cable-ACT100-Verizon-MyTouch/product-reviews/B0022JHOYM
This one actually has some reviews.
I don't think it will fit.

From wiki:
HTC manufactures Windows Mobile and Android-based Communicators which have a proprietary connector called HTC ExtUSB (Extended USB). ExtUSB combines mini-USB (with which it is backwards-compatible) with audio input as well as audio and video output in an 11-pin connector.
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=( That sucks, we only have a micro usb - B, pretty sure they are incompatible with each other.

irrespective, i have an hdtv. most composite video looks like hammered poo on an hdtv

yeah totally different connectors, I still have mine, sucked when i first got my N1 to see what connection it uses.

this seems pretty interesting, unless the icredibles usb port has more connections then i think it could be possible. as far as i can see the only hardware limitation would be the port, i dont think the phone needs special hardware to output analog video does it?

The connectors from the board to the port are different than a standard charge/data connection.

HDMI out cable doesn't seem to work

I bought a microusb to HDMI cable (Samsung P/N ECC1HU0BBE but not from Samsung, from some other random place) to see if it would work. It does not appear to work on my phone. I'm running the stock ROM, just rooted with the bloat removed.
I plugged it into an HDTV here at work, checked "TV out" in settings, and nothing. TV said it didn't see any input. I was dubious about this, especially since there's an option in there for NTSC/PAL which AFAIK doesn't apply to HDMI. This leads me to believe that maybe the TV out option is for something more like the classic ipod style analog video out through the headphone jack cable.
I tried: just checking the "TV out" box, switching between PAL and NTSC, restarting the phone with the cable connected, etc.
So, there's my anecdotal report. I'm guessing that our phone doesn't support this cable. I thought I had one of the latter (analog video) type in a box of cords somewhere but haven't been able to find it yet. Has anyone tried one of those cables?
(I'd post links to the cable I'm talking about but it won't let me! D

drat.
Maybe it only works with specific apps-- Did you try playing a movie in the built-in video player app?

Qwijib0 said:
Did you try playing a movie in the built-in video player app?
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I did, I even tried a couple different videos of different types.

there are some threads bout the analog headphone cables. They work fine, and are cheap, about 3.00 on amazon.

Gr8gorilla said:
there are some threads bout the analog headphone cables. They work fine, and are cheap, about 3.00 on amazon.
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Yeah, but 720p out would have been nice

Yeah ive heard the hdmi mini-usb don't work, just the tvout through headphone jack.

Switch colors red to yellow.....yellow to red.......funny but works
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PREZNANDO said:
Switch colors red to yellow.....yellow to red.......funny but works
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they're not having issues with the analog cables..
this is a micro-usb to hdmi... so colours don't apply here...

You got the wrong cable.
This is the correct cable to get:
ECC1HU0BBEBSTD
Found here: http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...detail&subsubtype=data-cables-kits&returnurl=
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You could have gotten a faulty cable. It's also possible the cable was assembled by some random joe making and selling junk cables. Where did you get it from? It may be a fake samsung cable and not true oem.

Breach said:
You could have gotten a faulty cable. It's also possible the cable was assembled by some random joe making and selling junk cables. Where did you get it from? It may be a fake samsung cable and not true oem.
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This is certainly possible. I bought it from some random shady web store I found on google shopping. It _looks_ like a Samsung cable, but that doesn't really mean anything.
ConceptVBS said:
You got the wrong cable.
This is the correct cable to get:
ECC1HU0BBEBSTD
Found here: http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...detail&subsubtype=data-cables-kits&returnurl=
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The cable I have looks exactly like that, down to the little plug symbol by the microusb port on the side. Also you'll notice that the part number you list is the same as the one I did but with an "STD" on the end. The page you linked me is where I started my search for this cable. The cable itself doesn't have any part numbers on it that I've found.
If it doesn't work on my TV at home either I'll take it apart and we'll see what's in there. I can't imagine much.
So, who knows? Maybe I have a knockoff, broken or wrong cable. If so, bummer for me, but that means that we still have the possibility of HDMI out on this device. So, someone buy that cable straight from Samsung (whenever they decide to start selling it) and prove me wrong! I'd be very happy

I bought the same cable and tryed everything...
I am not sure if it is a software issue or what. But it definitely is not sending signal threw this port. Tried a many different programs/apps and settings.

I thought "TV Out" was only for the analog video signal through the 3.5 mm jack.

where did you guys buy the cable?
just want to know
Thank You

It could be the cable. I had to buy a specific cable for my Greddy Emanage since they did something to switch the USB cable to make it proprietary. They charged $30 for the stupid thing too! Bunch of BS, anyhow, they may have done the same thing with the Vibrant.
I dont remember hearing anything about the Vibrant doing HDMI out though

i used an old 3.5 to rca cables from a motozine i had and video worked just fine on my tv. it kind of looks like crap on my 52 inch screen. but it worked. so im thinking maybe the video out only works through the 3.5 jack.

The Galaxy S doesnt support HDMI output. That was a accident statement from Samsung. That cable is for the "mondi".

Here is the official tweet from Samsung:
http://twitter.com/Samsungservice/status/20215650228

ConceptVBS said:
Here is the official tweet from Samsung:
http://twitter.com/Samsungservice/status/20215650228
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Hmm. I wonder if it works on the Sprint Epic 4G, or on the international I9000. (There are several Galaxy S features that T-Mobile and AT&T have disabled, but which appear in other variants.)

What is the quality of the 3.5mm tv out..is it horrible? On youtube videos it looks really good, but its hard to tell by youtube. Will it look quite good on a 46" panasonic plasma?...no hdmi news is quite depressing, was really looking forward to that.

South Korean TV dock looks AWESOME. WHERE THE F IS OURS?

I'm gettin sick of this crap. Give us the watered down products, and the rest of the world what we want in the first place, RIGHT?
There's a new TV dock for the galaxy S in south korea, comes with small keyboard, and controller.
Will we ever get one? If we can get our hands on the dock, could it work with our phones?

here's the engadget article:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/25/samsung-galaxy-s-hoppin-hops-to-south-korea-includes-tv-dock-fo/
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if u cant see the image, just follow the link

This is a specific phone... It's not for all and any galaxy s.

chronster said:
I'm gettin sick of this crap. Give us the watered down products, and the rest of the world what we want in the first place, RIGHT?
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There's a few reasons for this. Samsung is a Korean company, of course they'd give their own people things first. That dock is specific for the Korean phone, and in Korea there is a domestic satellite TV service, called T-DMB, their cellphones and other devices receive giving more incentive for a device like this.

Droid X has HDMI out... goodbye
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iTz Nicholas72 said:
Droid X has HDMI out... goodbye
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what's your point? you don't need hdmi for 720p content, and these phones have the capability, they just need the software.

Well samsung is a south korean company, makes sense they get stuff before we do.

m91-30 said:
what's your point? you don't need hdmi for 720p content
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Unless you are already bringing viewing resolution considerably lower, of course it matters.
What in the world do you mean by a statement like that that? NTSC video is 720 x 480 at 60i. 720p is 1280 x 720 at 30p or 24p or 60p.
You can do very well with component or even S video (if you can still find it, they have all but killed it off) out for 720p content, but if you are talking about composite ("yellow cable"), I firmly disagree.
The instances where HDMI can be substituted are fairly few, and exceptionally so in consumer video. It is digital, bundles audio on one cable, and is high bandwidth. The only thorn is HDCP.
Saying you don't need HDMI for HD content is almost like saying you don't need cinema when there is VHS.
But then perhaps I am missing your point. I have yet to try it, but perhaps thee most practical way to play video from these phones is to mount them as disks and play the file themselves through a player without involving video transfer at all. Is that what you meant?
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.

I've used the 3 RCA (2 audio, one video) into one 3.5mm jack cable on my omnia 2, and camera. 720P isn't THAT high resolution, and it can be displayed fairly decently through this cable. not only this, but most modern tvs can mount the phone as a USB drive and just play the video directly.

m91-30 said:
I've used the 3 RCA (2 audio, one video) into one 3.5mm jack cable on my omnia 2, and camera. 720P isn't THAT high resolution, and it can be displayed fairly decently through this cable. not only this, but most modern tvs can mount the phone as a USB drive and just play the video directly.
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the tv dock is one of those "will be available with froyo" things.
being a cable guy i cant let the incorrect statements about video go un answered. you CANNOT get hidef out of a base band (rca, yellow) cable. period end of story. the limitation is the tv input. ALL base band inputs are 480i. s-video is 480p. component will dispay at 1080i and hdmi at 1080p. component and hdmi are the only inputs that will accept hidef signals. some cable companies and broadcast stations offer hidef which uses the f-connector. the reason for this aception is the tuner. rca, component, hdim and svideo are display inputs. the fconnector goes to a tuner.

FULL Ubuntu on our Note - Canonical starts the dream engines :)

Heeey Folks!
I hope that this hasn´t been posted yet (didn´t find anything within the search).
Just have a look right here or here .
This looks so promising to me, that I´m really getting pretty nervous this morning^^
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That is truely awesome I Wonder if there are docking stations out that let you connect both å hdmi screen AND a mouse and keyboard?

I love this idea and it is clever of canonical to ride on the back of the success of Android.
But I'm not sure how I would use it. When I use my computer (which has oneric) I also want to able to use my phone separately.
Perhaps a better solution for me would be to have a standard Ubuntu install that gains phone powers when the phone is docked. It would make apps like airdroid obsolete.
I totally see how other people will have a use for this and I hope it's a huge success.

It's great news
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when, where and how
i want it now

It's an interesting project
I hope it will come to our notes, too.

If you have the dock w/ hdmi out, just use a bluetooth keyboard and mouse or a keyboard w/ built in trackpad. Then pair up bluetooth headphones in case you get a call so you don't lose your desktop. That'd be the easiest imo.
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On Ubuntu we have this requirement:
HDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer device
The Note have this secundary buffer?
Because the HDMI is mirror mode by default.
Anyone with technical knowledge can do a test?
I searched and found this information from another phone:
Primary frame buffer:
/dev/graphics/fb0
Secundary:
/dev/graphics/fb1
Tnks all.

i was thrilled to see this, but would sure love to also occasionally run it while not docked (you know... like a laptop or tablet...). i realize they probably did this due to battery life concerns or something, but hey, why rule it out?

Is our note compatible with this? I do not see a HDMI out!

itismadhan said:
Is our note compatible with this? I do not see a HDMI out!
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MHL to hdmi

celuppi said:
On Ubuntu we have this requirement:
HDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer device
The Note have this secundary buffer?
Because the HDMI is mirror mode by default.
Anyone with technical knowledge can do a test?
I searched and found this information from another phone:
Primary frame buffer:
/dev/graphics/fb0
Secundary:
/dev/graphics/fb1
Tnks all.
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I suspect there probably is a secondary frame buffer given that when watching videos through MHL, the playback controls display on the phone screen but not the TV...

Is there a release schedule?

As much as I love linux, the idea of having to deal with unity again, now trying to spoil my awesome note, makes me shudder ..

great hope to see something huge in coming time

amebasguitar said:
when, where and how
i want it now
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"... feature for late-2012 ..." ?..

Wishnu
Wishnu can do the same right now
xda discussion
official site
And we also can connect to TV via HDMI and to a keyboard and a mouse using USB host
Android Market

This looks killer!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997

itismadhan said:
Is our note compatible with this? I do not see a HDMI out!
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our Note's microUSB can be convert to hdmi thanks to the MHL(Mobile High-Definition Link) technology
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jszsj said:
our Note's microUSB can be convert to hdmi thanks to the MHL(Mobile High-Definition Link) technology
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For mhl to work do you have 2 use the second USB port with AC adapter? Is that how it properly coverts USB to HDMI?
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CTRLR holding a 7" tablet

Hi guys,
Been wanting to do this for a long time
Here it is... what a bad boy!!
The tablet is a cheapish chinese mali400 2GBram with hdmi out (hyundai T7s) , I bough instead of the ouya, sooo glad I did to, definitely getting my monies worth!
I got the same apps/emulators setup on here as the MOJO.... obviously it doesn't play as nice, but does okay
Been playing N64, MK4 is smooth, GE 007 and Dest. Durby both playable but laggy (9-30ps).
It's kinda heavy holding it, close to 1kilo as a guess.
It's not to bad if upright and balanced, but when angeled the weight of the tablet is noticeable.
Overall, feels comfortable with the controller, like in front of the TV
It's sturdy but there's a tiny bit of play at the bottom, even with the screw on tight... it's really testing the CTRLR's build quality here! lol
This is da shiz! Very cool,
I did photos as I put it together.. it's just fine rope and a small L bracket with tape wraped around it.
I'll blog it one day soonish..
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Hi,
I've finished my blog post about how I made my 7 inch clip.
http://xpcoin.com/2014/01/14/mojo-shield-a-7-inch-tablet-on-mad-catz-travel-clip
I update it with the support bracket info.

ctrlr disassembled
After using my 7” tablet with the CTRLR, I started to wonder why the CTRLR weighs so much?
So I decided to open it and see.
http://xpcoin.com/2014/01/22/mad-catz-mojo-ctrlr-disassembled/
Next time I'll take better photos!

gwaldo said:
After using my 7” tablet with the CTRLR, I started to wonder why the CTRLR weighs so much?
So I decided to open it and see.
http://xpcoin.com/2014/01/22/mad-catz-mojo-ctrlr-disassembled/
Next time I'll take better photos!
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Hey there is vibration !!!! cool

Dead-neM said:
Hey there is vibration !!!! cool
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Afraid not - those are weights added to improve the balance and feel of the CTRLR.

Will this controller work with HTC One over bluetooth?

suku_patel_22 said:
Will this controller work with HTC One over bluetooth?
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Only with an OTG USB cable, right now (unless you have the unlocked, developer or Google edition, in which case you're fine). As soon as you get the KitKat update then you'll be able to sync directly.

Mad Catz Rich said:
Only with an OTG USB cable, right now (unless you have the unlocked, developer or Google edition, in which case you're fine). As soon as you get the KitKat update then you'll be able to sync directly.
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I have the international unlocked version and running KitKat with Sense 5.5.
So I guess it will work. I want to connect phone to TV using MHL and pair it via bluetooth and have a mini console
Also where can I buy this from?
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suku_patel_22 said:
I have the international unlocked version and running KitKat with Sense 5.5.
So I guess it will work. I want to connect phone to TV using MHL and pair it via bluetooth and have a mini console
Also where can I buy this from?
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Can you disable the screen while on MHL? I hear there's performance issues with even mirroring to mini/micro HDMI?
But yeah that will work.
The retail version controller will be BT2 and BT4 so will work on "any" android/PC device and includes the travel clip
Not sure when it will be out, I hope soon I want another one :fingers-crossed:
I guess on amazon and newegg etc
I don't think they will be cheap either, over $50 for sure.

I've updated my blog, Here's me showing of the beast, thought I'd share with you guys :good:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X1upRc5gNeo