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why it is not rapid in homescreen ?

before going on the nexus one, I had a hero htc and strut really faster than the nexus of the home, the lag does not the hero and the nexus with snapdragon yes

After rooting and installing a custom rom (tried both cyan & modaco desire), the lag disappeared. I believe a large portion is due to the extra memory freed up running these roms.
When google releases their next OTA with himem, and some other tweaks, it should (hopefully) be fixed for non-rooted users.
I have heard some folks using 2.1 on their Droid that it's a tad bit laggy as well.

azalex86 said:
After rooting and installing a custom rom (tried both cyan & modaco desire), the lag disappeared.
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I'm using cyan's rom and it's somewhat smoother than stock, yet not as smooth as my mother's Magic.
Surprising to say the least.

im using cyanogen but is not better smootly

frandavid100 said:
I'm using cyan's rom and it's somewhat smoother than stock, yet not as smooth as my mother's Magic.
Surprising to say the least.
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Yeah, the magic is running 320x480 (vs 480x800), im assuming still on android 1.6. The processor speed difference should be able to make up for it, but it seems Android 2.1 is the main reason for the lag at the moment...perhaps a background process?
Also, do you have animated wallpaper enabled?
I'm currently on MoDaCo Desire a19, using SetCPU @ 998mhz, and using the Social Live Wallpaper, and the screen movement is smooth as silk. Prior, I was using a21, and had the same homescreen lag I had on the stock rom.

Using home++ is smooth

yes it is the resolution(480x800) that is poorly managed but why ?

supergodie said:
Using home++ is smooth
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i dont like home++ live wallpaper dont work on this

kosworld said:
i dont like home++ live wallpaper dont work on this
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Home++ beta 0.8.0.7.15 from their website allows live wallpaper.
Try switching to a different live wallpaper and see if you see any performance increase. Are you using the stock N1 live wps or one that is made by someone else?

no im using cyanogen 5.0.5.3 and sometimes desire rom alpha 21

I was always aware of it being not so smooth but when I finally compared it to an older HTC Magic I was disappointed... it's definitely smoother on the magic. I'm running CM btw, and I didn't notice any improvement in smoothness after flashing.

Yeah, that's very odd. After I flashed it, there's a night and day difference.
Have you tried removing all your widgets & shortcuts to see if it reduces the lag at all? Then add them one at a time to see if something's screwing with it?
Dunno why it would have that big of an impact, but to be honest, sometimes the dumb things fix more than one would think, hahaha.

azalex86 said:
Also, do you have animated wallpaper enabled?
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Nope, only one of the stock wallpapers (the one with the red rock).
I have noticed that if you add shortcuts to several contacts, performance plummets. Could you check and see if the same happens to you?

With the stock ROM I get a lot of lag too. Home++ really helps, but i want live wallpaper and 3D launcher.

frandavid100 said:
Nope, only one of the stock wallpapers (the one with the red rock).
I have noticed that if you add shortcuts to several contacts, performance plummets. Could you check and see if the same happens to you?
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I added 20 contacts, and while there was a minor slowdown initially swiping to that page, it's not running that much slower overall.
I'm using TaskPanel, and kill everything but the HTC sense, mail, messaging, live wallpaper processes on phone start up. Then I don't touch the thing, and have nothing on it's autokill list (I let android deal with it). I found that if I don't do this, the FM Radio app along with a couple others autorun, and android never kills them, even if they are never used.
At this moment, after having the phone on for 22 hours, I have 179MB of free memory.
(Using the following on my home screen: Social Live Wallpaper, HTC Big clock w/ animated weather, TaskPanel 4x1 widget, last.fm widget, htc calendar, htc photo album, power control, htc friendstream, htc news, and the rest of the empty space is filled with program shortcuts.)

I don't think it have anything to do with the resolution. I think it have everything to do with the new launcher. Remember, when Droid came out it had the pull up launcher and 2.1 immediately came out it had a different launcher. I have a feeling it was rushed and not optimized. I could be wrong but i have a funny feeling the next release will probably be better.
For now I'm using Enom rom with the Manup hero like theme and goodies. I limited the launcher screens to 3 screens to improve it a little better to me (albeit 3 screens is more than all i need so I'm cool with it).

frandavid100 said:
not as smooth as my mother's Magic.
Surprising to say the least.
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no, it's surprising that nobody ran with the above quote...

deprecate said:
no, it's surprising that nobody ran with the above quote...
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English is not my first language, I run into some unintentional puns every now ant then...

How to live with out Sense.. {Making a list and hoping for help}

I for one like Sense, well I am not running a Sense ROM now I do miss a few things. So I wanted to see what people dis like and like about it and well maybe help some of us out. You know, finding way to forget about Sense.
I am running Cyanogenmod 6.0.0 now.
Like:
1: Flash {Cant find a work around}
2: Widgets
a: Peep {There is twitter but I like how dark peep is}
b: Friend Stream
c: Calender {Cant find a replacement }
d: Contact {Contact Widget does a great job as a replacement }
3: The ringer getting low when you pick up the phone {Cant find a work around}
Other than that, I cant say I miss Sense all to much, to tell the truth I am really liking adw launcher.
But if you have anything that helps replace what Sense does give you should add a list and if you are just missing something you should ask here, maybe one of us will be able to help you out.

chaos67731 said:
I for one like Sense, well I am not running a Sense ROM now I do miss a few things. So I wanted to see what people dis like and like about it and well maybe help some of us out. You know, finding way to forget about Sense.
I am running Cyanogenmod 6.0.0 now.
Like:
1: Flash {Cant find a work around}
2: Widgets
a: Peep {There is twitter but I like how dark peep is}
b: Friend Stream
c: Calender {Cant find a replacement }
d: Contact {Contact Widget does a great job as a replacement }
3: The ringer getting low when you pick up the phone {Cant find a work around}
Other than that, I cant say I miss Sense all to much, to tell the truth I am really liking adw launcher.
But if you have anything that helps replace what Sense does give you should add a list and if you are just missing something you should ask here, maybe one of us will be able to help you out.
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LauncherPro... faster, smoother than ADW and has "Sense" widgets. Right now I believe it's just contacts, he is releasing calender and others (if he hasn't already)

DirtyShroomz said:
LauncherPro... faster, smoother than ADW and has "Sense" widgets. Right now I believe it's just contacts, he is releasing calender and others (if he hasn't already)
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Just to add to your comment, he added bookmarks widgets as well

I like AOSP because it is much faster than Sense regardless of what you do to speed it up. I love the look of sense, but after buying a couple of apps and downloading others I can say that I do not miss Sense.
LauncherPro Plus-He is working on Sense like widgets. I now use this instead of Rosie.
Beautiful Widgets or Fancy Widgets- imitates Weather and clock from Sense. You'll have to find a fancy widget download online as they had a C&D order from HTC.
Extended Controls- Allows more options than the power control widget
CalWidget-Calander Widget on your home screen. I think you can change text and background color with this one.
I'm not a social networking freak so I don't care about those, but I know that they will get friendstream working on aosp. And you can still get all the other apps for aosp.
There is a setting somewhere to change the ringer volume on phone movement. I don't have CM6 flashed anymore, but I know its in the settings somehwere

unCoRrUpTeD said:
I like AOSP because it is much faster than Sense regardless of what you do to speed it up. I love the look of sense, but after buying a couple of apps and downloading others I can say that I do not miss Sense.
LauncherPro Plus-He is working on Sense like widgets. I now use this instead of Rosie.
Beautiful Widgets or Fancy Widgets- imitates Weather and clock from Sense. You'll have to find a fancy widget download online as they had a C&D order from HTC.
Extended Controls- Allows more options than the power control widget
CalWidget-Calander Widget on your home screen. I think you can change text and background color with this one.
I'm not a social networking freak so I don't care about those, but I know that they will get friendstream working on aosp. And you can still get all the other apps for aosp.
There is a setting somewhere to change the ringer volume on phone movement. I don't have CM6 flashed anymore, but I know its in the settings somehwere
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Fyi nfinitefx45 just got jit working on a sense rom. I'm using it on my red dawn as I type. I'm getting between 4.4-4.8 on linpack and that's with all the extra crap I've got on my rom.
The days of saying aosp is faster is at an end. I've got no lag. Running smooth and extremely fast plus have sense and all the Widgets that come with it.
Sense will find a way onto froyo eventually and will be just as fast as aosp

It really does seem that AOSP can be just as great as Sense as far as cosmetics. So the only thing left is flash, is there any way to get flash working on ASOP 2.1 or the 2.2 we have now?
Thank you all for the great input!

Papa Smurf151 said:
Fyi nfinitefx45 just got jit working on a sense rom. I'm using it on my red dawn as I type. I'm getting between 4.4-4.8 on linpack and that's with all the extra crap I've got on my rom.
The days of saying aosp is faster is at an end. I've got no lag. Running smooth and extremely fast plus have sense and all the Widgets that come with it.
Sense will find a way onto froyo eventually and will be just as fast as aosp
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What about quadrant?
Some will never give up on Sense. I used to hate AOSP. I didn't like the look and missed all the extra's found in Sense.Right now I keep switching between froyo and Sense. If only someone could get all the sense apps working with AOSP.

Flash will never come to the hero because it's not built for it. I love sense, but i've learned to get by in froyo. The main thing I miss is the nice widgets, but there are some nice replacements in the market. I use digiclock widget and the weather channel. For twitter, seesmic is better than anything and it is fast. Launcher pro will let you customize your bottom row just about any way you want and will let you have 7 home screens like sense. If you have your homescreen laid out just how you like it in sense, then it's not that hard to recreate it in AOSP, unless you use a lot of sense Widgets.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

sierpinski13 said:
Flash will never come to the hero because it's not built for it.p
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We've had Flash for quite a while now.

Sense just seems like a waste of memory to me. Everything can be duplicated with Market widgets.
I really wish I knew what people saw in it, I hate it with a passion.

The way I see it is, Sense UI does offer things that other phones dont have and HTC has stayed a head of the game a little by giving us all just a little bit extra (flash)
On top of that, how many themes are out there for AWR or Luncher Pro? Well Sense if at heart a big theme, Things are made to go to gather and its simple and dark.
But anyway, How do we get Flash with out Sense?

chaos67731 said:
The way I see it is, Sense UI does offer things that other phones dont have and HTC has stayed a head of the game a little by giving us all just a little bit extra (flash)
On top of that, how many themes are out there for AWR or Luncher Pro? Well Sense if at heart a big theme, Things are made to go to gather and its simple and dark.
But anyway, How do we get Flash with out Sense?
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Got flash 10.1 also with sense and jit. Hmmm have any other complaints about sense that r untrue. Ill crush them as well.

Papa Smurf151 said:
Got flash 10.1 also with sense and jit. Hmmm have any other complaints about sense that r untrue. Ill crush them as well.
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Could you please explain how to get flash 10.1? I'm using nfinitefx45's stock de-odex.

Hey pappa!
Have you tested the new sensebuild /w jit on quadrant? It is a better benchmark than linpack, if for no other reason than it tests more than floating point calculations.

Papa Smurf151 said:
Got flash 10.1 also with sense and jit. Hmmm have any other complaints about sense that r untrue. Ill crush them as well.
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Maybe you did not understand me? I like Sense and would love for a 2.2 Sense RON to come out. But at the same point I can get a lot of the same things done with out it.
And how about this, My Hero will build me a island and then transform in to a plain and fly me there...... If people ask how I will not say anything.
If you have flash and see people have asked why dont you share with us?

chaos67731 said:
Maybe you did not understand me? I like Sense and would love for a 2.2 Sense RON to come out. But at the same point I can get a lot of the same things done with out it.
And how about this, My Hero will build me a island and then transform in to a plain and fly me there...... If people ask how I will not say anything.
If you have flash and see people have asked why dont you share with us?
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nfinitefx45 got flash to work. dl either of my roms or his zenherofx and pull the flashliteplugin.apk. that has the lib in it to allow to have flash 10.1 to work.

i haven't used sense since the day i bought my hero, i always strip it out of the roms. a waste of space & memory IMO.

tejasrichard said:
Hey pappa!
Have you tested the new sensebuild /w jit on quadrant? It is a better benchmark than linpack, if for no other reason than it tests more than floating point calculations.
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u tell me cause i didnt run it before i had jit on

are you guys gonna pull your ***** out now?
Sent from my HERO200 using Tapatalk

As soon as I have time I will try to get a .zip for people to use to get flash running on there 2.2 heros, But I am not a dev by any means so it will take a day or two.
Also, your "Red Dawn Rom Page" link is messed up. It seems you have an extra "http//" after your "http://".
Papa Smurf151 said:
nfinitefx45 got flash to work. dl either of my roms or his zenherofx and pull the flashliteplugin.apk. that has the lib in it to allow to have flash 10.1 to work.
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[Q] Is there a way to fix up the gradient banding?

Has anyone noticed is pretty much all the Froyo builds (I haven't tried Gingerbread yet) that most apps that have some form of gradient, it is represented by very ugly banding.
The Froyo Call Screen
Xiia Live
These are a few of the programs. I've checked my brothers phone (Galaxy S) and his one doesn't have these issues.
Is there any way to fix these or is this just a limitation?

Psygnosis84 said:
Has anyone noticed is pretty much all the Froyo builds (I haven't tried Gingerbread yet) that most apps that have some form of gradient, it is represented by very ugly banding.
The Froyo Call Screen
Xiia Live
These are a few of the programs. I've checked my brothers phone (Galaxy S) and his one doesn't have these issues.
Is there any way to fix these or is this just a limitation?
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HD2= 65K screen = Bad colour = banding
For the moment, hopefully it will be fixed with 16m colors

No, it's not display. when you move widget, this bandig disappear. this issiue affact Gingerbread build to... any idea, how to fix that?

Try Launcher Pro. That got rid of banding issues for me. You don't have to get rid of your current launcher to try it, so there's nothing to lose, and I'd highly recommend it anyway. It's by far my favourite launcher available.

Yeah, about this subject.
I have a desire hd rom, and in sense ui gradients show banding, for the ui and everything. It's most visible on the power control widget.
However, when I move to launcher pro, the same widget shows no banding.
Any way to incorporate that "fix" to simulate less color information and get rid of the banding?

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Yeah, about this subject.
I have a desire hd rom, and in sense ui gradients show banding, for the ui and everything. It's most visible on the power control widget.
However, when I move to launcher pro, the same widget shows no banding.
Any way to incorporate that "fix" to simulate less color information and get rid of the banding?
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If you use live wallpaper the banding will appear.

mylove299 said:
If you use live wallpaper the banding will appear.
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I don't use live wallpapers. And how could that relate? Does a live-wallpaper eat from the number of colors the display can show, or what?

nemuro said:
Any way to incorporate that "fix" to simulate less color information and get rid of the banding?
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Simply put... NO.
Launcher Pro is a paid software and will not be cooked into and publicly released here on XDA.
Sorry..

dharvey4651 said:
Simply put... NO.
Launcher Pro is a paid software and will not be cooked into and publicly released here on XDA.
Sorry..
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Technically, launcher pro IS a free app, the paid version simply has more features.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

mally2 said:
HD2= 65K screen = Bad colour = banding
For the moment, hopefully it will be fixed with 16m colors
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Sorry this will never happen.. Microsoft said the 65k colors was a software limitations in winmo 6.5, however the hardware is capable of 262k colors.. currently we are under a software (read: drivers/libs) limitation. Maybe in time one of the wonderful dev's here will find the solution and rewrite the libs to unlock the full screen capabilities.. time will tell... hope this explains things little bit better as its been discussed numerous time that I know of...
Swyped from my Cyanogenmodded HD2

dharvey4651 said:
Simply put... NO.
Launcher Pro is a paid software and will not be cooked into and publicly released here on XDA.
Sorry..
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I use the free version. Nice try though.
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Sorry this will never happen.. Microsoft said the 65k colors was a software limitations in winmo 6.5, however the hardware is capable of 262k colors.. currently we are under a software (read: drivers/libs) limitation. Maybe in time one of the wonderful dev's here will find the solution and rewrite the libs to unlock the full screen capabilities.. time will tell... hope this explains things little bit better as its been discussed numerous time that I know of...
Swyped from my Cyanogenmodded HD2
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Does anyone have some proof on this? With a lot of users, there are a lot myths regarding our lovely HD2.
Until I see two hd2 phones, with the same graphics displayed, one with and one without banding, I will have a hard time believing this.

I don't know what you want for proof here's mircrosofts site on the hd2 specs http://www.microsoft.com/windowspho...oft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/6/default.aspx you will see what I said in the post before yours. As far as android goes you will have to search for it. It was discussed a long time ago with a couple of devs here..
Swyped from my Cyanogenmodded HD2

thanks or all informations

[Q] [NAND] Pixelated graphics and widgets in all NAND roms. (Banding)

Hello xda,
Im currently using the rom on my signature which runs close to perfect. But I want to know why and how can I fix the ugly pixelated graphics and widgets in the rom. Is not a specific rom issue since all NAND roms i've tried have that problem. Back in SD this issue was fixed and graphics looked perfect. How can I achieve that sharp and nice look?
Thank you all, this community is amazing.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

do you have a screenshot at all to show us? Maybe a photo of the screen from another camera if that is easier?

Here's a screenshot with music and calendar widget.
Notice the ugly pixels and blocky look.
Edit. Actually don't know why drocap won't show it. But all of you who have nand open those widgets and you'll see what i mean

sorry dude... it looks normal... and looks totally fine on mine, I have a Telstra HD2 (512ROM) tried the CM and Desire and MIUI based ones, they all work great on mine, no odd looking pixels

Pens and DreamS said:
Notice the ugly pixels and blocky look.
Edit. Actually don't know why drocap won't show it. But all of you who have nand open those widgets and you'll see what i mean
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Maybe that issue caused by image compression ... I think.

The rendering of widgets can be affected heavily by the launcher. I've heard suggestion that Launcher Pro will get rid of that problem. Worth a try since you just uninstall it if it doesn't fix it.
If it is down to the launcher, there's not going to be any fix for you, other than hope that there's an update to the launcher you use, that addresses the issue.

Thank you all for your answers. Will try another launcher and see.

I installed launcher pro (free) and tried it in the beginning with MDJ 2.6 G-bread nand version... I noticed pixelated widgets but kind of did not care. I also installed bunch of things after 1st boot and started using the phone. Among other apps it was ADWlauncher EX which I paid... I rebooted after that once for different reason and once it booted up again I literally noticed huge bump in how smooth and fluid motion was with this launcher - pixelation was also gone and I do not know whether it was launcher that made it that way - but I definitely love it

I know what he is talking about. I try to avoid widgets with that ugly looking thing. Which is why I'm currently using transparent widgets.
These screenshots have been taken with this app called "shoot me" As you can seen, they look perfectly fine
But, now look at these pictures taken with my digital camera

hello00 said:
I know what he is talking about. I try to avoid widgets with that ugly looking thing. Which is why I'm currently using transparent widgets.
These screenshots have been taken with this app called "shoot me" As you can seen, they look perfectly fine
But, now look at these pictures taken with my digital camera
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Looking at the pics you posted I believe this is the banding problem alot have referred too caused by the 65k limitation on the screen.. Yes it is capable of 262k but the devs haven't figured out how to unlock it yet.. Winmo say it's a software limitation.. Hope this is a lil explanation.. The reason your screen shot doesn't show it, is cause android itself isn't limited to 65k colors only the screen is (currently)..
Swyped from my desire hd2

squish099 said:
Looking at the pics you posted I believe this is the banding problem alot have referred too caused by the 65k limitation on the screen.. Yes it is capable of 262k but the devs haven't figured out how to unlock it yet.. Winmo say it's a software limitation.. Hope this is a lil explanation.. The reason your screen shot doesn't show it, is cause android itself isn't limited to 65k colors only the screen is (currently)..
Swyped from my desire hd2
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Thanks for your explanation. This doesn't bother me at all. Just wanted to post some ss's so you guys could have an idea what the OP is reffering to.

Pens and DreamS said:
Thank you all for your answers. Will try another launcher and see.
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Hi, can you update us on whether this has worked for you?
I'm facing this problem too, and I'm still keeping the power control widget even though the pixelated one looks very ugly..

live wallpapers not working

What Magic based phone does live wall papers work on? Every time i download one it just tells me my phone isn't supported and there are no settings related to live wall papers in GingerYoshi and stock Froyo (ota) and I can't think of why some Magic's would have this support but not others ...yet there are live wall paper postings in the themes section so it must work somewhere and somehow...
I have a Mytouch 1.2.

The same problem! Magic 32a, ginger yoshi 1.2, no live wallpapers in wallpapers menu and none of tested live wallpapers work.
Yoshi! Where are You!? SOS!

Stock Froyo never had live wallpapers to begin with.
As to why GingerYoshi decided to not include live wallpapers, I'd guess mostly for performance. Seems like most people consider live wallpapers to be a waste on an "old" phone.

our phones run to slow for live wall papers some do work but run kinda choppy

I've only been able to get a few LWP's to work... the Matrix one is so far the only one that won't lag my phone to death.

oldfield16 said:
Stock Froyo never had live wallpapers to begin with.
As to why GingerYoshi decided to not include live wallpapers, I'd guess mostly for performance. Seems like most people consider live wallpapers to be a waste on an "old" phone.
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hey man!
I had live wallpapers on my magic with cm 6 and they mostly worked good enough! wifi, bt, a lot of apps kill the performance more quickly so it's not a reason.
the question is not whether live wallpapers work or not, kill performance or not... the question is why I don't have a choice with this rom?
yoshi, give me my wallpapers back or I go on hunger strike!