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Feedback on new AT&T ROM

So I installed it yesterday (and thanks to all those who helped).
I think the new ROM is FANTASTIC. Everything works for me, its faster than before and I have no lags. Im using Launcher Pro because the new Blur doesn't support scrolling widgets.
Battery is definitely better (turned on at 6am and had 15% at 6pn which us amazing for me).
Camera has been improved. Pictures look sharper and the colors no longer look weird. I owned an sgs2 and to me the pictures are just as good (and definitely better than the Sensation I owned for a bit). Its also much faster (put it in sport mode and virtually immediate).
Fingerprint reader works. Properly. Period.
Sound on speaker is excellent. Its still the best device on the market.
Sound on earpiece might be a little quieter. I am not certain on this but its something I noticed on my first call.
Gps lock is very quick. It was before too.
Software. Wow what a MASSIVE improvement. Email software is finally useable readable and possibly as good as Sense. Widgets are also better, like weather. Photo software and gallery better. MUSIC is a different application totally. I think I preferred the old one or just need to get used to it. Dialer is improved. Video playback is still great and again an area where this device excels over others I have owned. Animations also very cool. Top bar and notifications simply better than before. Entire color scheme is improved.
Stock keyboard is better but I still make a lot of mistakes when typing. HTC still make the best Android keyboard IMHO and I wish I could port the Sensation keyboard.
Overall its just more elegant and mire pleasurable ti use. For the first time I feel like its a device to show off. I really believe its the best device out there. Had Moto started out with this ROM it would have been considered a device as good as the HD2 in its day.
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I agree that Gingerbread by far is better than Froyo. My Atrix looks and runs so much better.
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ernestdefoe said:
I agree that Gingerbread by far is better than Froyo. My Atrix looks and runs so much better.
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After one day on gingerbread, I'd have to say the keyboard's the biggest improvement for me. An @ key without having to press alt first? Yes! Long press keys for numbers? Yes!

I agree. It's a fantastic upgrade and the new skin is slick....my only complaint is that homescreen scrolling isn't as fast as I expected. The forest LWP is a little slow, and pinch to zoom on stock camera gallery isn't as good as my previous phone or 3rd party market apps
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its is an amazing difference

before making the plunge I wud like to know from u guys about the screen gradient issues
is it solved??
like skin tones appeared really odd and washed out
I thot it was a software issue as the screen grabs also showed them on my PC
that was a big gripe for me but for the otherwise near perfect phone
and ya camera quality was also really poor

Are you talking about kenns?
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dunno whom u are asking but am still on froyo
wud love to hear that screen issues are solved
leaving aside the pentile issue as SGS also has pentile but looked better

Battery life is the biggest improvement forvmr
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I freakin love the new ROM. Thanks KP!

They have made a smart move by selecting a color scheme that greatly reduces the effect of the inherent technical limitations of a Pentile LCD! Its better than Froyo but I guess only because of the color scheme they have decided to go with!

Pat123 said:
They have made a smart move by selecting a color scheme that greatly reduces the effect of the inherent technical limitations of a Pentile LCD! Its better than Froyo but I guess only because of the color scheme they have decided to go with!
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Even if the color scheme didnt change its 10 times better. Im tired of the complaints about the phone, go get a different one and/or dont complain about this one. We dont care to hear it.

Loving the new rom so far. I do think the cardock app got worse (looks better, but fewer custom buttons). I love how you can uninstall apps using a long press from the app drawer.
I'm also looking forward to trying the ignore call, respond with text option.
Last thing, wish the default music app worked with Google Music Beta... installed the Google one instead.
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Overall, this seems to be working pretty fantastically for me except for a few things.
- Contact List can get REALLY slow sometimes. (15 seconds to load up a contact's information!)
- Unlocking (the screen, not the phone) can get slow, as well as Facebook and a few other apps. Haven't fully tested yet.
Is this happening to anyone else?

So far, i'm loving the new blur, everything is working fine for me.but i hope this is not the final blur version, because i was watching a demo of blur for droid3 on youtube it looks a little bit better then this. The swipe between screens was different and the quick contact widget was different and more useful.

are you sure about the battery life part.. i got a bad battery life thats the reason why i flashed it back to froyo 2.2.2 ( 1.83 sbf ) .. if you are also using kenneth's beta release >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159385
and if u also talking abotu kenneth's beta one. fingerprint reader doesn't work for me

hem.acharya said:
are you sure about the battery life part.. i got a bad battery life thats the reason why i flashed it back to froyo 2.2.2 ( 1.83 sbf ) .. if you are also using kenneth's beta release >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159385
and if u also talking abotu kenneth's beta one. fingerprint reader doesn't work for me
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I'm pretty sure is not talking about the ken release.

ohh so its all about the color scheme that's chosen now!!
neways I will wait till the official release
bit scared by the hard brick numbers

ayaskant12 said:
ohh so its all about the color scheme that's chosen now!!
neways I will wait till the official release
bit scared by the hard brick numbers
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You only hard brick if you try to do the OTA. If you use kennethpenn's method using CWM with an unlocked bootloader you'll have no problem.

Screen unable to show accurate yellows.

Has this been fixed with firmware updates or now that custom roms are able to be loaded?
Or is the screen just that terrible?
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I've heard this complain before but I don't seem to have this issue.. or perhaps I'm color blind or something lol.
I do intend to not have much yellow more so red and black on my screen than anything..
Is it really THAT MUCH of a nuisance?

it is really annoying, and unfortunately i'm pretty sure it's hardware-based due to the PenTile display. there are plenty of previous discussions on this so please search back and read up on it there.

seh6183 said:
Has this been fixed with firmware updates or now that custom roms are able to be loaded?
Or is the screen just that terrible?
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It's not terrible for me. It's just the way our screen is.
Our screen was built for -> battery saving, that's why color reproduction has problems.
And for me the choice paid off, I am getting the best battery life than with any android smartphone.
If color reproduction was more important to you, you shouldn't have bought an Atrix.

Supposedly pentile screens also have advantages with sunlight visibility.My wife has an HTC Desire S, and it is literally unviewable in the Sun and yet mine remained completely usable and clear. She was not impressed and I was left gloating

dLo GSR said:
it is really annoying, and unfortunately i'm pretty sure it's hardware-based due to the PenTile display. there are plenty of previous discussions on this so please search back and read up on it there.
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Im well aware of the problem and there is no need for me to do a search. This is why I'm asking if the problem has been addressed. Doing a search will only net me what I already know as no one talks about this issue anymore.
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xploited said:
It's not terrible for me. It's just the way our screen is.
Our screen was built for -> battery saving, that's why color reproduction has problems.
And for me the choice paid off, I am getting the best battery life than with any android smartphone.
If color reproduction was more important to you, you shouldn't have bought an Atrix.
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You're getting the best battery life of any android phone because you have the biggest battery of any android phone LOL
And there is no reason in the world why inaccurate color reproduction would EVER result in better battery life. Unless of course you're talking about switching a screen to black and white.
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seh6183 said:
You're getting the best battery life of any android phone because you have the biggest battery of any android phone LOL
And there is no reason in the world why inaccurate color reproduction would EVER result in better battery life. Unless of course you're talking about switching a screen to black and white.
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He was saying that the screen technology on the ATRIX gave it better battery life. Not the color errors. Clearly.
I haven't noticed any colour reproduction errors.
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Magnetox said:
He was saying that the screen technology on the ATRIX gave it better battery life. Not the color errors. Clearly.
I haven't noticed any colour reproduction errors.
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Its too bad some color panel hidden behind the scenes couldn't be accessed to correct the color. It would have been a top contender for some time to come. Love how big the battery is.
Have they ported cm7 to it yet? Are they still doing the 2nd init hack or has the bootloader been unlocked?
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seh6183 said:
Im well aware of the problem and there is no need for me to do a search. This is why I'm asking if the problem has been addressed. Doing a search will only net me what I already know as no one talks about this issue anymore.
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wasn't trying to upset you.
but if we're on that wave, if you're well aware of the problem and searching only netted you no new answers, what did you expect asking would do? net you more non-new answers.

The Atrix screen indeed makes everything a little "bluer" (are your yellows slightly green?).
I read that in CM7 you can alter the color scheme a little bit, or there's an app that can also do this...I'd have to search a little bit to find what I'm talking about, but I'll post a link in just a sec.
Edit: this is what I was thinking of...Might not be exactly what you're looking for, as it requires you to have CM7 it looks like (not that that's a bad thing, but of course it's still in pre-beta and you might not want to use it). It's a start though, and gives you a little more info.

It's an unfixable hardware "problem".
It not a huge deal (can't really tell a huge difference)
Who cares.

seh6183 said:
Its too bad some color panel hidden behind the scenes couldn't be accessed to correct the color. It would have been a top contender for some time to come. Love how big the battery is.
Have they ported cm7 to it yet? Are they still doing the 2nd init hack or has the bootloader been unlocked?
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No need for 2nd init...
Bootloader has been unlocked for a couple of months now.
CM7 is in early beta stages right now.
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dLo GSR said:
wasn't trying to upset you.
but if we're on that wave, if you're well aware of the problem and searching only netted you no new answers, what did you expect asking would do? net you more non-new answers.
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You're wasting mine and everyone else's time.
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Monochrome ftw.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

thebeardedchild said:
The Atrix screen indeed makes everything a little "bluer" (are your yellows slightly green?).
I read that in CM7 you can alter the color scheme a little bit, or there's an app that can also do this...I'd have to search a little bit to find what I'm talking about, but I'll post a link in just a sec.
Edit: this is what I was thinking of...Might not be exactly what you're looking for, as it requires you to have CM7 it looks like (not that that's a bad thing, but of course it's still in pre-beta and you might not want to use it). It's a start though, and gives you a little more info.
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This is excellent information and essentially a fix to the problem. I may pick up an Atrix for this very post right here!!! Thank you for the info!!!!
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BravoMotorola said:
It's an unfixable hardware "problem".
It not a huge deal (can't really tell a huge difference)
Who cares.
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Read the post above yours lol
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seh6183 said:
This is excellent information and essentially a fix to the problem. I may pick up an Atrix for this very post right here!!! Thank you for the info!!!!
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Lol sure thing. Just remember that, from what I can gather, it requires you to use the CM7 ROM (which in turn requires unlocked bootloader, etc. etc.) so make sure to look into all that first!

thebeardedchild said:
Lol sure thing. Just remember that, from what I can gather, it requires you to use the CM7 ROM (which in turn requires unlocked bootloader, etc. etc.) so make sure to look into all that first!
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The only thing I use is cm7 so not to worry
I just need to ask around about a couple of other things about the Atrix before I decide to buy one again.
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The atrix is the bomb diggity yo.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

Worried about ICS

Isn't anyone else worried about how blue ICS is and about AMOLED burn in?

Meh, that's what themes are for. Plus as big a video guy as I am, (I'm a video engineer), the "lowered output over time" that many incorrectly call burn in, isn't enough to bother me.yes I can see it looking for it but again, amoled is just too friggen awesome to care. My epic still looked very good after a year of heavy, high brightness use. Also lowering brightness will slow this down but I say (w an extra battery) crank it and enjoy the expensive device you paid for!
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What should we worry about more exactly?

TheSaw said:
What should we worry about more exactly?
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ICS will have a blue status bar. The blue leds loose their brightness quicker than the red and green thus the bar being blue you get burn in effect although its not burnin but inproper degradation of the leds.

I'll probably have an S3 by then!

mr_tris said:
I'll probably have an S3 by then!
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+1 Or even an S4 by the time it starts looking bad enough to even care.
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I certainly wouldn't say i'm 'worried' by it ...

I'm worried if it it won't have a good battery life not about a blue bar or other things. I'm sure everything else will work fine.

compuw22c said:
...crank it and enjoy the expensive device you paid for!
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My thoughts exactly. I bought this phone for the processing power and the awesome screen. Turning the screen down because of something that might happen over time would be a shame.

seriously am i the only one who thinks that the forum is getting filled with pointless threads

I didn't get it, What is the problem of using blue bar? it looks awesome.

aatkco said:
I didn't get it, What is the problem of using blue bar? it looks awesome.
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Read again

Matriak31 said:
seriously am i the only one who thinks that the forum is getting filled with pointless threads
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No, you are not the only one, but be careful how you speak as many are very sensitive

achillies400 said:
No, you are not the only one, but be careful how you speak as many are very sensitive
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Yeah you are right..Forgot how sensitive some people on here are...Next time i will sugar coat them..

AFAIK Amoled degradation is non linear (like plasma) the first hunders hours it will degrade fast and then it will stabilize and even the blue leds (which has the shortest lifespan) will outlast the usefull life of your mobile easily (at least 4 years with 6 hours screen time a day)
IF color balance gets skewed by wearing out blue more than the other colors you can always readjust the balance, for example with chainFire's app
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Matriak31 said:
seriously am i the only one who thinks that the forum is getting filled with pointless threads
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This isn't a pointless thread. It's actually useful. People do worry about the screen burns
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Actually I hate the black status, menus, etc. Why don't they use light colors?, I don't know. I much prefer the old android status bar color. At least the degradation was not that visible when using fullscreen apps. (I do browse a lot, and a large procent of pages have white background. Also most apps have white background).
I really do not understand Google why it doesn't give to the user a build-in simple color scheme editor, so you can easily change the system colors (such as statusbar, menu). Like it was on WM. You could change the status bar color via registry, no mess with pack/unpack/resign of framework blablabla. Oh my..

olyloh6696 said:
This isn't a pointless thread. It's actually useful. People do worry about the screen burns
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and i do worry about mine as well but i am sure if the lovely chap who opened this thread actually took the time to search and try and find answers to his questions we would not be having this conversation now..even if he could not find anything on xda(which highly doubtful) then google is his saviour...
But anyway hope he finds his answers now and he stops worrying. after all we are a community to help each other...

Wow
Yeah, so, if your screen-on time can burn out the screen, before ambient humidity burns out the mainboard... you need to put your phone down before you get cancer LOL
Seriously, the half life of the pixels in AMOLED is a mean average 14,000 hours...
One year, seven months... that would be at FULL brightness, with the screen ON for the entire duration to hit the half life...
And you're WORRIED?! LMMFAO
Use your phone, love it, and stop worrying, you'll have a new phone before you notice pixel death.

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AFAIK Amoled degradation is non linear (like plasma) the first hunders hours it will degrade fast and then it will stabilize and even the blue leds (which has the shortest lifespan) will outlast the usefull life of your mobile easily (at least 4 years with 6 hours screen time a day)
IF color balance gets skewed by wearing out blue more than the other colors you can always readjust the balance, for example with chainFire's app
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Could some body send me a link to chainFire's app

Do you use all the features?

I'm planning on getting the htc one but some of these features seem really cool on the s4, so my question is do you use them all or are they just a bunch of gimmicks.
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Absolutely none, just patiently waiting for CM10

spitfire2425 said:
I'm planning on getting the htc one but some of these features seem really cool on the s4, so my question is do you use them all or are they just a bunch of gimmicks.
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Really the only one that has impressed me is the eraser mode on the camera that removes moving objects... otherwise, all the "smart" features stay off. Battery hogs to the max.

sulpher said:
Battery hogs to the max.
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Unless you use the "smart" features you don't know that for a fact. I have been using the smart features on and off for over a week, with the features / gimmicks on and running there isn't much battery drain at all.
While a lot of the features are gimmicks some are actually very useful.
Smart stay - (the best one out of all them, should be in stock Android)
Quick glance - (use this all time while it's on my desk or on a table)
Air view - (helps me dig through text messages fast and zoom in on some websites)
Air gesture - (I actually go in the gallery a lot and this makes browsing photos more fun and... natural? in a sense)
Palm motion - (use this all the time to answer phone calls and mute or pause music also use it to capture screenshots
Direct call - (I have to admit it's nice and very useful to just directly call someone while simply just moving the phone to your head while in the texting or contacts app)
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I used Air View for a bit but it made my screen too sensitive which i used those specific programs.
besides that the only Air feature that i might turn on is Air Call Accept. And it only works during phone calls so its not bad.
The watchon TV controller thing is a bit weird. Doesnt work all the time..

Today I was eating lunch with my phone next to me. Got a call and used the gesture to answer and have the speaker turn on without me touching the phone. That was nice. Voice control camera is cool, but saying different things changes how the camera shoots. I'm still figuring that one out.

Thanks for the replies, none of these sounds useful to me.
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Unless you use the "smart" features you don't know that for a fact. I have been using the smart features on and off for over a week, with the features / gimmicks on and running there isn't much battery drain at all.
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Just because i dont have them on now doesnt mean ive never used them.

sulpher said:
Just because i dont have them on now doesnt mean ive never used them. Great job being a douche though~
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OMG... I wasn't trying to come off negative, sorry if it seemed that way. I just hate when people like to call out facts when they haven't even used or tested the subject themselfs.
Notice I also said "unless" you did use them yourself.
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Bjray said:
OMG... I wasn't trying to come off negative, sorry if it seemed that way. I just hate when people like to call out facts when they haven't even used or tested the subject themselfs.
Notice I also said "unless" you did use them yourself.
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Alright, i apologize for the snap judgement. Im fanatical about battery, and they do drain extra, which to me is unacceptable for what you get in exchange. Was much more impressed with the smart stay than any of the new ones, and depending on how many times you let the screen almost time out it can add a fairly substantial amount.
Your right, i should probably rephrase my 'hog' assessment, im probably more picky than others about battery. .

Bjray said:
Unless you use the "smart" features you don't know that for a fact. I have been using the smart features on and off for over a week, with the features / gimmicks on and running there isn't much battery drain at all.
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Completely agree with you!
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Anybody Use Weather Live by Apalon?

I love their live wallpaper but it destroys my battery life. I wonder if you have had the same experience? It is free if you are nice enough to try and let me know? Thanks!
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recDNA said:
I love their live wallpaper but it destroys my battery life. I wonder if you have had the same experience? It is free if you are nice enough to try and let me know? Thanks!
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The reviews complain about this to.

sinclac said:
The reviews complain about this to.
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Where? The vast majority of reviews are great or complain about ads. I don't mind ads because I never open the app. I checked in gsam and not much data sent. I can't figure out why it burns the battery so fast. I know folks will say, "then uninstall it stupid!", but I just wanted to make sure everyone has the same experience. I've loved live weather wallpaper of the sky (hate grassy fields etc) since my HTC thunderbolt days but this is the only live weather wallpaper besides Sense that I ever liked. (sense is still better but I hate htc)
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Gladyscoleman said:
All that which works in live state will destroy your battery life. Use cell phone always battery saver mod and dont used live wallpaper in future.
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I have always and will always use live wallpaper. I know it uses more battery than static wallpaper but no app I've ever used has killed the battery like this. I appreciate your suggestion and respect your opinion but I'd like to avoid a debate on weather apps (all use battery) and live wallpaper (all use battery) and stick to this particular app and whether everyone has the same findings about this one app.
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Gladyscoleman said:
Thanks and I'm also agree with you .
I know that all application consumed battery. If you want to enhance your battery life then you may download battery saver app from Play store.
What you think about that ?
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I appreciate your suggestion but battery saver limits screen on time and suggests shutting off bluetooth and wifi and I'd rather control those things myself. I'd like to limit the discussion to the battery drain by this live wallpaper compared to other live wallpapers.
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Nobody else seemed to have answered your question so far. I can tell you definitively that I too had the same problem.
I too loved the graphics so I put up with the battery drain for a while. I read thru a lot of reviews and found some people commenting about battery life as well but those reviews were ignored by the developer. I couldn't find any solutions anywhere. I emailed the developer without getting any response back. Eventually I just gave up on the app.
The problem appears to be only with the live wallpaper portion of the app. I have used other live wallpapers but none drained battery like this one. Sometimes the log showed it even consumed more battery than the screen itself at full brightness. The phone would stay hot when I enable the live wallpaper of this app. So I came to the conclusion that it is just a poorly written app and the developer has no intention of fixing it. Which is a shame because I really liked the graphics.
If anyone knows a solution for this that would be great.

Cloudfly said:
Nobody else seemed to have answered your question so far. I can tell you definitively that I too had the same problem.
I too loved the graphics so I put up with the battery drain for a while. I read thru a lot of reviews and found some people commenting about battery life as well but those reviews were ignored by the developer. I couldn't find any solutions anywhere. I emailed the developer without getting any response back. Eventually I just gave up on the app.
The problem appears to be only with the live wallpaper portion of the app. I have used other live wallpapers but none drained battery like this one. Sometimes the log showed it even consumed more battery than the screen itself at full brightness. The phone would stay hot when I enable the live wallpaper of this app. So I came to the conclusion that it is just a poorly written app and the developer has no intention of fixing it. Which is a shame because I really liked the graphics.
If anyone knows a solution for this that would be great.
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OK, that confirmed my experience. I don't get what is using so much power. The live wallpaper is far less active than others I've used in the past yet uses 10 times the power. Ugh. I wish a developer here would write something comparable that didn't use so much battery. Heck, even video live wallpaper doesn't use up the battery so fast.
I would think that 4 out of 5 reviews would say "makes my phone hot and drains my battery!"
Thanks for noticing. Nobody else was willing to actually discuss the issue.
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I should have mentioned I am using the free version. Is the paid version any better?
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The update fixed the problem. Battery use way down. Heavy, but comparable to other weather apps.
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Really? Let me try it out. Thanks for the news.
I used the paid version. It was bad.