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Samsung Galaxy S 2.2 update
Posted: 5 hours ago
Hi folks
Thanks a lot for all your patience regarding the Galaxy S froyo update.
Our handset team have been working closely with Samsung regarding this update and future updates and would like to share their news with you.
Our goal is to make the update process smoother and we are working to become the only mobile operator offering FOTA (Firmware over the Air) updates for the Samsung product range. The aim was and still is to have the FOTA update available at some point today. If for reasons outwith our control we are unable to have a FOTA update process fully functioning by close of play today, then we will make the update available for download via Samsung KIES tomorrow (Dec 1st)
Thanks again for all the feedback you've given us through our forums.
Cheers
Barry
T-Mobile forum team
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/discussions/index?page=forums&topic=80103825157760012c52e07803002f32
I wonder if they are just creating a package for FOTA or sorting out the bugs in the 2.2 update also? Probably just adding all the t-mobile crap
OTA is an interesting choice....
How do they know whether a phone has the T-mobile product code? Does that mean the update will be sent to all the T-mobile Galaxy S phones?
Or what if you originally had a T-mobile product code and now have XEU after using the KIES hack, will T-mobile try to send you the upgrade?
These are probably very simple questions, but I'm new to smartphones
enigmameusa said:
OTA is an interesting choice....
How do they know whether a phone has the T-mobile product code? Does that mean the update will be sent to all the T-mobile Galaxy S phones?
Or what if you originally had a T-mobile product code and now have XEU after using the KIES hack, will T-mobile try to send you the upgrade?
These are probably very simple questions, but I'm new to smartphones
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I doubt they even can push it out it looks like another line to me as they said it would be out by the end of november via kies in the first place. There is still no update in kies at the moment
There are many samsung firmware builds, just for i9505 and i9500 itself there are many different firmware variations.
From what I understand, different regions uses different modems am I right? If not, then why do Samsung update their firmware based on different regions?
When Android 4.3 was released, it was released as per region and to Russia first. Why cant they just send out one uniform update OTA to all devices of that model? If its because of the modems, then why dont other manufacturers like HTC do the same? They are able to push out one HTC update for all international HTC phones...
din89pm said:
There are many samsung firmware builds, just for i9505 and i9500 itself there are many different firmware variations.
From what I understand, different regions uses different modems am I right? If not, then why do Samsung update their firmware based on different regions?
When Android 4.3 was released, it was released as per region and to Russia first. Why cant they just send out one uniform update OTA to all devices of that model? If its because of the modems, then why dont other manufacturers like HTC do the same? They are able to push out one HTC update for all international HTC phones...
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it s not always because of bandwidth traffics
sometimes they release firmware for test if someone find bug and then solve it for another region (and also with minor update for first regions)
htc released update for htc one world-wide But how u compare samsung with htc
S4 was one of the best sell in history of smartphone (always samsung device do this) so thr s more s4 users than htc one
also it happened for some device for sony xperia
SO be patient
However u can flash stocks roms
download flashable zip of ROM from another region and flash it via Odin
completely stock and without warranty void...
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x102x96x said:
it s not always because of bandwidth traffics
sometimes they release firmware for test if someone find bug and then solve it for another region (and also with minor update for first regions)
htc released update for htc one world-wide But how u compare samsung with htc
S4 was one of the best sell in history of smartphone (always samsung device do this) so thr s more s4 users than htc one
also it happened for some device for sony xperia
SO be patient
However u can flash stocks roms
download flashable zip of ROM from another region and flash it via Odin
completely stock and without warranty void...
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Actually the purpose of this post is to gain some knowledge on how Samsung update goes on... I am very patient I am not rushing to the point I need to flash a custom ROM. So you are saying that each region has their own Samsung tech guy that will work on the initial release to fix bugs before passing to another region?
There are not just more variants of firmware in s4, but also the same for any samsung phone. Does anyone else have their opinion on this matter as well? I would like to get feedback on what people think behind samsung's update procedure.
I'm also interested in having an answer on the subject. If I can flash a firmware from another region on my phone, what's the purpose of having several firmwares...Besides some tweaks apparently.
Wouldn't it be more interesting if all the developers from Samsung focused on the same firmware to eliminate the bugs more rapidly for example? I don't really see the link between several firmwares and the number of users. Ok, the S4 sold by millions, and?
Thanks.
What difference does it make.As long as your getting your updates, why would you care about any other region.
Are you doing a Samsung case study or preparing a lawsuit; otherwise email CEO of Samsung.
I can post his tag if needed..lol
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2
The time discrepancy its coming from carriers. Most of them wants to integrate their own bloatwares in their phones. And some are doing faster than others. That's why there's so many region specific firmwares when its about Touchwiz. You won't see region specific firmwares for Google Play Edition.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app
vladimir_carlan said:
The time discrepancy its coming from carriers. Most of them wants to integrate their own bloatwares in their phones. And some are doing faster than others. That's why there's so many region specific firmwares when its about Touchwiz. You won't see region specific firmwares for Google Play Edition.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app
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Indeed, seems the most obvious reason... I just wanted to be sure that besides the bloatware, the Android version underneath was the same.
Thanks for your intel!
mr.death7 said:
Indeed, seems the most obvious reason... I just wanted to be sure that besides the bloatware, the Android version underneath was the same.
Thanks for your intel!
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So just to be absolutely clear about this...
When I cant download the Dutch firmware version for my sm-t110, I ccould just download the australian one instead whitout bricking my device?
This is important thanks
Dear All
This is my first time to post and use XDA, so please guild me and give me a hand. thanks
I am using Galaxy S5 LTE-A ( Korea Version SM-G906S)
Snapdragon 805,
3GB ram
Kernel version (3.10.0-1916255
Baseband
G906SKSU1ANFF
i am now facing to a problem that because its a Korea version and i am locate in Hong Kong, there are many Hong Kong local Samsung's feature i can not use and also are different then what i had with my S4 which i found it hugely inconvenience, such as the Keyboard's input are not the original, the watch on function is not working in my area, some korean words which i dont understand keep on poping up.
so i wonger if its possible i can download the S5 (G900S) hong kong Kernal to install in my G906S? so all the problem will be solved,
if not then what can i do? please give me a hand. thank you
Edmund
edmundluk6 said:
so i wonger if its possible i can download the S5 (G900S) hong kong Kernal to install in my G906S? so all the problem will be solved
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Well according to Samsung this phone doesn't exist. Samsung swore up and down that there would be no S5 prime released.
But anyway, your idea to use the kernel from the existing S5 is exceedingly unlikely to work. You can't just transplant a stock kernel from a different model. The kernel may be nearly identical, but you have to expect at least a few differences in system level drivers and addressing which is enough to cause serious problems. An expert could probably recompile and port the kernel over, but this phone was just released and I doubt that anyone has done anything like that yet.
There probably isn't Chinese or English firmware for this model, but you check on that just in case. Also see if there is Chinese or English support in the current firmware. Failing that, you may be able to install an English or Chinese custom ROM. Once one is released that is. There is probably enough interest in the premium hardware for someone to tackle that.
Realize that you bought a Korean market only device, at least for the moment and unless Samsung releases it to more markets or a programmer takes it on as a project.. you don't have a lot of options. Hazards of being an early adopter and /or not researching your options in advance.
Also, few people outside of Korea will have any firsthand knowledge of this phone yet, so we don't know a lot of details e.g. if the bootloader is locked or much else.
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fffft said:
Well according to Samsung this phone doesn't exist. Samsung swore up and down that there would be no S5 prime released.
But anyway, your idea to use the kernel from the existing S5 is exceedingly unlikely to work. You can't just transplant a stock kernel from a different model. The kernel may be nearly identical, but you have to expect at least a few differences in system level drivers and addressing which is enough to cause serious problems. An expert could probably recompile and port the kernel over, but this phone was just released and I doubt that anyone has done anything like that yet.
There probably isn't Chinese or English firmware for this model, but you check on that just in case. Also see if there is Chinese or English support in the current firmware. Failing that, you may be able to install an English or Chinese custom ROM. Once one is released that is. There is probably enough interest in the premium hardware for someone to tackle that.
Realize that you bought a Korean market only device, at least for the moment and unless Samsung releases it to more markets or a programmer takes it on as a project.. you don't have a lot of options. Hazards of being an early adopter and /or not researching your options in advance.
Also, few people outside of Korea will have any firsthand knowledge of this phone yet, so we don't know a lot of details e.g. if the bootloader is locked or much else.
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Many thanks for your help, looks like i will have to live with it for now, i hope there will be future rom for my phone. thank you very much. your information is very helpful.
@edmundluk6
FYI, root, custom recovery and custom ROM development for your phone.
SM-G906S/K/L/ S805 Info Sharing thread (Root/CWM/Custom Rom)
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Hello guys
Today youmobile contacted Samsung to clarify that our lovely s4 mini will not be forgotten
And he had the confirmation that the gs4 mini will get it
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update : officialy we will not get lollipop .. F**ck u samsung
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Update : petition to get lollipop please sign here https://www.change.org/p/samsung-up...nternational-versions-to-android-5-0-lollipop and new project to develope unofficial stock lollipop proposed by @Loulou-13 here #78
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...irmed-Plans-for-Galaxy-Ace-4-ACe-Style-Update
minOu45 said:
Hello guys
Today youmobile contacted Samsung to clarify that our lovely s4 mini will not be forgotten
And he had the confirmation that the gs4 mini will get it
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Can you provide the link to the picture too?
XxM4tzexX said:
Can you provide the link to the picture too?
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Here you go.. Scroll down to see the "S4 Family"
http://samsung.youmobile.org/
Would be nice to see an actual quote of Samsung UK's response.
As i already have said ,it's totaly wrong ! no official Lollipop for S4-mini ......
Samsung have said that it's an internal memory limitation .... 8 Go is not enought !
They don't want to do effort !!! ......... and with ALL of theirs "bloats" ,it's not surprising .. pffff !!!!!
That's why the only way is to have an "unofficial" Lollipop exploit with "S6 lollipop preject" team ( ....or maybe with ploiki's team !!! :fingers-crossed: ) that's a big challenge !!!
!!!! Forget Samsung's poor development ! think "XDA" the best !!!!!!!
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Would be nice to see an actual quote of Samsung UK's response.
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Samsung uk did not convey message to public.
But they do communicate with carriers as to their approval of the "bloat" on part of carrier.
ThreeUK said their version of lollipop failed testing and concluded there won't be lp due to mem limits.
But ThreeIreland said their software was approved and seeding will begin shortly.
That is the summary. But usually no carrier gives more details about discussions with oems
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As i already have said ,it's totaly wrong ! no official Lollipop for S4-mini ......
Samsung have said that it's an internal memory limitation .... 8 Go is not enought !
They don't want to do effort !!! ......... and with ALL of theirs "bloats" ,it's not surprising .. pffff !!!!!
That's why the only way is to have an "unofficial" Lollipop exploit with "S6 lollipop preject" team ( ....or maybe with ploiki's team !!! :fingers-crossed: ) that's a big challenge !!!
!!!! Forget Samsung's poor development ! think "XDA" the best !!!!!!!
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it all seems very confusing. One carrier says they will release a Lollipop update, another says they cannot. A response from Samsung regarding an official Lollipop update for the international models has not been published yet but if a carrier decided to update theirs and it was possible, then we may just see an official update from Samsung.
minOu45 said:
it all seems very confusing. One carrier says they will release a Lollipop update, another says they cannot. A response from Samsung regarding an official Lollipop update for the international models has not been published yet but if a carrier decided to update theirs and it was possible, then we may just see an official update from Samsung.
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A carrier ?! no ,i don't think at all ...
If there are no development of "Lollipop" firmware source-base released (and decided ! ) by the manufacturer , a mobil operator can't ask for this Lollipop version because it need "new" work .
they are only interrested by the "money" ! they prefer to seel new devices..... that offert "good" support for a long period ...
An example n December 2014 when they have come out these "gear watches" ,they have updated very quickly on "very" short period many modems and firmwares for compatibilty for many devices ( our S4-mini with modem ****UCNK1 and superior ) ......just for cell !!!
BUT we never have had KK 4.4.4 ..... and no effort for to include news features of S5 S5-mini /note4 ....
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A carrier ?! no ,i don't think at all ...
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All s4 mini models have same chipsets. So ground work will be identical for all models. The UI and prebuilt apps will be same too. All they need to do is to make other essentials like RIL, multi-sim, nfc etc which differ between models. Also all s4 minis have 1.5gb ram.
So if samsung works on lollipop they will consider 2 important things. 1.Difficulty 2.Demand.
Demand is plenty. Difficulty is more in case of carrier branded models. It is relatively hassle free with international models. If one carrier confirms the update
[which they did], then international models will get it too.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...-will-receive-android-5-0-lollipop-update.htm
Keep us updated!
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Keep us updated!
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:laugh: !
you will be sure at 100% that if there are an eventual update , here on XDA you will be informed NEAR SOMES SMALLS MINUTES after release !
But i'm convinced that there won't be official Lollipop firmware ... ( but i hope that i'm wrong ! )
Loulou-13 said:
:laugh: !
you will be sure at 100% that if there are an eventual update , here on XDA you will be informed NEAR SOMES SMALLS MINUTES after release !
But i'm convinced that there won't be official Lollipop firmware ... ( but i hope that i'm wrong ! )
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I agree with you, normally Samsung announces the update and not the carriers. Would surprise me if Samsung has changed it's update policy.
j0ep0 said:
I agree with you, normally Samsung announces the update and not the carriers. Would surprise me if Samsung has changed it's update policy.
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There are not "official" announcement !!!!! it's "just" a poor simple TWEET ....... and there are many tweets and lots of articles in contradiction......
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There are not "official" announcement !!!!! it's "just" a poor simple TWEET ....... and there are many tweets and lots of articles in contradiction......
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youmobile contacted samsung and the update will be there for our device.but samsung dont write a exact time for the release so be patience just a few weeks and the update will be her
A major confusion happened yesterday when UK
branch of "Three" carrier tweeted that the Galaxy S4
mini will not be getting Android 5.0 Lollipop update due
to Memory limitation, after few hours "ThreeIreland"
branch tweeted that the S4 mini update is approved
and passed the testing process.
Today, we reached out to Samsung to get a clearance
about this. Low-end and mid-range users are NOT
forgotten by Samsung, the Korean giant is working hard
to bring Lollipop love to as many devices as possible,
but time is tight (posted by youmobile)
Would be nice to have multiple, more known sources. Again I hope 5.0.1 will come, but "wait a couple of weeks" is a bit too vague.
Three ireland said to me that s4 mini lollipop cancelled for them.
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Samsung Information is accurate, only unlocked version will get the update.
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minOu45 said:
Three ireland said to me that s4 mini lollipop cancelled for them.
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Samsung Information is accurate, only unlocked version will get the update.
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so we will have the update for all s4 mini i9195/90/92
Wait, official will get and carriers no?
If Samsung will release LP for S4 Mini, all carriers will got it!, no only GENERIC version.
Ofc, It's only my opinion.
Hi, it's been before the release of Samsung Pay, which, I can not make it work on the phone. I have some hypotheses but, I would also like your opinion, and maybe some advice, or to remove my doubts.
First of all, I speak of the Samsung Pay Italy. Before the official oreo release, I changed firmware in a German (DBT). I regularly received the updates before all the other operators and regions. Of course I was interested in the upcoming release of Samsung Pay in my country. Below I leave the screenshots. My doubts are:
Is it because I have the German firmware, which compromises the operation of Samsung Pay?
Can I downgrade to 7.0 and then change firmware (and csc) in a no brand, without altering the Knox?.
Or maybe change csc into a no-brand (without downgrade)?
Sreenshot: https://imgur.com/PUaxDtv