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Hi can somebody guide me how can i delete packages from the OEM folder.I use EVK kitchen,i want to keep new packages in to the EXT folder,and want to delete the packages from OEM folder.
how can i do that?and to prevent from a non booting rom,which r modules/files/folder/ i should keep in the OEM?
help for this will be appreciated.
thx a lot
regards
Why bother with it, they will be overwrite from those one in EXT folder
Nahhh...jk....can you upload your OEM folder so we can have a look in it?
deepankerjha said:
Hi can somebody guide me how can i delete packages from the OEM folder.I use EVK kitchen,i want to keep new packages in to the EXT folder,and want to delete the packages from OEM folder.
how can i do that?and to prevent from a non booting rom,which r modules/files/folder/ i should keep in the OEM?
help for this will be appreciated.
thx a lot
regards
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af974 said:
Why bother with it, they will be overwrite from those one in EXT folder
Nahhh...jk....can you upload your OEM folder so we can have a look in it?
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I know that mate,but the problem is there r some packages in the OEM which i dont want to use at all but cant c a way to delete them,fearing it may not boot the rom.I want to make a complete NEW OEM or DELETE those packages completly.
i remember when last i tried this i got a rom with normal boot up and abnormal behaviour ....so just not daring again.will upload my OEM pkg for u to have look.
is there any way to know package specific files/folders in the OEM for EVK ?I doubt.....but then u r my SUNSHINE.... when it comes to problems in cooking
you are my sunshine....my only sunshine....lol nice song
you are to kind say this...im only a noob the real masters here are Shane (TPC),NGR,Leo(??...oh sure Laurentius ) and sorry if i forgot someone
I would make a thread with a list of OEM/EXT packages explanation,
im in the same mod as you ....
...what the hell is " irsir.dll " or " Random_Access_4_1_19173928_0" ??
dunno...lol...i just use the instinct to cook roms
waiting for your OEM.
deepankerjha said:
I know that mate,but the problem is there r some packages in the OEM which i dont want to use at all but cant c a way to delete them,fearing it may not boot the rom.I want to make a complete NEW OEM or DELETE those packages completly.
i remember when last i tried this i got a rom with normal boot up and abnormal behaviour ....so just not daring again.will upload my OEM pkg for u to have look.
is there any way to know package specific files/folders in the OEM for EVK ?I doubt.....but then u r my SUNSHINE.... when it comes to problems in cooking
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af974 said:
you are my sunshine....my only sunshine....lol nice song
you are to kind say this...im only a noob the real masters here are Shane (TPC),NGR,Leo(??...oh sure Laurentius ) and sorry if i forgot someone
I would make a thread with a list of OEM/EXT packages explanation,
im in the same mod as you ....
...what the hell is " irsir.dll " or " Random_Access_4_1_19173928_0" ??
dunno...lol...i just use the instinct to cook roms
waiting for your OEM.
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hey bro suddenly something came in my mind.just going to try that out.if it works,will let u know.
and yes SHANE is too good to be a human always supporting and always there....
regards
I haven't messed around much with OEM's myself, but the only thing to keep in mind is that if you shift a package from there to the EXT, you need to convert it to EXT format. Change .rgu's to app.reg files, delete the .dsm's, and get the proper folder structure. Once, I moved NETCF from a Sys to my EXT directory, not thinking about the folder conversion, and I ended up with a rom that didn't have net framework. It booted up ok, but let me tell you, that rom suck hard. It took me a while to figure out what I'd done wrong. Check your dump before flashing just to make sure all the files are included.
Random Access is the alphabet that appears on the right side of your contacts (and other places), and that gives you a quick shortcut to hop down to a specific letter. I'm guessing irsir.dll is some IR based driver? But if it's in your oem, then maybe it's something else. A quick google will definitely tell you what it is.
Edit: yeah irsir.dll is an ir driver:
IrDA Devices
Fast IR Driver nscirda.dll
Serial IR Driver Irsir.dll
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Here's a thread that says you can remove irsir.dll if you don't have IR on your device. Not sure why they put it in, in that case.
oh dammit...now i cant sleep if you dont say me what came in your mind
Uhmmm.....are you sure that he is an human?? do you have prove?
deepankerjha said:
hey bro suddenly something came in my mind.just going to try that out.if it works,will let u know.
and yes SHANE is too good to be a human always supporting and always there....
regards
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Farmer Ted said:
I haven't messed around much with OEM's myself, but the only thing to keep in mind is that if you shift a package from there to the EXT, you need to convert it to EXT format. Change .rgu's to app.reg files, delete the .dsm's, and get the proper folder structure. Once, I moved NETCF from a Sys to my EXT directory, not thinking about the folder conversion, and I ended up with a rom that didn't have net framework. It booted up ok, but let me tell you, that rom suck hard. It took me a while to figure out what I'd done wrong. Check your dump before flashing just to make sure all the files are included.
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thx ted for ur thoughts on that,but how about if i dont want to move the OEM to EXT and use a new EXT?
deepankerjha said:
thx ted for ur thoughts on that,but how about if i dont want to move the OEM to EXT and use a new EXT?
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Just create a new EXT, and move all the file you want into the \New EXT\Files folder, and if there's an associated .rgu, rename it app.reg and stick it in the \New EXT folder. That's pretty much all you have to do.
af974 said:
oh dammit...now i cant sleep if you dont say me what came in your mind
Uhmmm.....are you sure that he is an human?? do you have prove?
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nop Shane is more than human... because being HUMAN i know
Farmer Ted said:
Just create a new EXT, and move all the file you want into the \New EXT\Files folder, and if there's an associated .rgu, rename it app.reg and stick it in the \New EXT folder. That's pretty much all you have to do.
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ted thats exactly i want to know that what if i dont want some packages from the OEM how do i delete it ? because its a jungle out there in the OEM folder
deepankerjha said:
ted thats exactly i want to know that what if i dont want some packages from the OEM how do i delete it ? because its a jungle out there in the OEM folder
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Not sure I am following correctly, but if you just want to move things to a new OEM folder so that you don't mess up the original OEM folder here is what I do.
Under the OEM folderI have a Rhodium folder. I just rename that to RhodiumOriginal and then make another folder Rhodium. now just copy everything to this folder and you can make changes without messing up the original folder. If soemthing doesn't work out, just delete the new folder and rename the original folder.
Just make sure that the folder you want to use is the first folder in the OEM directory or EVK won;t like it. If you rename the original folder to OriginalRhodium EVK won;t like it because O comes before R. Hope you understand that part. If not, EVK will let you know pretty quick there is a problem.
If i remember right you are using Mega EXT package right?
Well i guess you can delete OEM_app because is plenty of useless files with Mega Pack.
In OEM drivers i would not delete the dll folders and some dll file, but Autorun,commmanager,some ringtones and picture could be deleted without problem.
I suggest you to use an app for comapring folders,in 2nd thread there is one, for check both OEM and EXT and see which files are duplicated.
deepankerjha said:
ted thats exactly i want to know that what if i dont want some packages from the OEM how do i delete it ? because its a jungle out there in the OEM folder
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- Following are the contents of my OEM folder in EVK for your reference. Everything else is in EXT :
.VM
0409
--ConfigAP
--CONNECTIONSETUPDB
--ExtendedPkg
--ExtraFilesPkg
--OEM_Lang_0409
--OperatorPkg
--OperatorPkg_PT
COMMON
--COLORSKIN
--OEM_DPI_96
--OEMAPPS
--OEMDrivers
--OEMMISC
--OEMOPERATORS
--OEMVersion
- This works fine for Elfin/Elf ROMs.
Hope this helps .
chota_shivaji said:
- Following are the contents of my OEM folder in EVK for your reference. Everything else is in EXT :
.VM
0409
--ConfigAP
--CONNECTIONSETUPDB
--ExtendedPkg
--ExtraFilesPkg
--OEM_Lang_0409
--OperatorPkg
--OperatorPkg_PT
COMMON
--COLORSKIN
--OEM_DPI_96
--OEMAPPS
--OEMDrivers
--OEMMISC
--OEMOPERATORS
--OEMVersion
- This works fine for Elfin/Elf ROMs.
Hope this helps .
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so what ???
af974 said:
If i remember right you are using Mega EXT package right?
Well i guess you can delete OEM_app because is plenty of useless files with Mega Pack.
In OEM drivers i would not delete the dll folders and some dll file, but Autorun,commmanager,some ringtones and picture could be deleted without problem.
I suggest you to use an app for comapring folders,in 2nd thread there is one, for check both OEM and EXT and see which files are duplicated.
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hi buddy
my thought didnt work,so dropped that idea.now going to follow what u have suggested
regards
Check this link about what packages are/aren't needed in OEM.
rgb-rgb said:
Not sure I am following correctly, but if you just want to move things to a new OEM folder so that you don't mess up the original OEM folder here is what I do.
Under the OEM folderI have a Rhodium folder. I just rename that to RhodiumOriginal and then make another folder Rhodium. now just copy everything to this folder and you can make changes without messing up the original folder. If soemthing doesn't work out, just delete the new folder and rename the original folder.
Just make sure that the folder you want to use is the first folder in the OEM directory or EVK won;t like it. If you rename the original folder to OriginalRhodium EVK won;t like it because O comes before R. Hope you understand that part. If not, EVK will let you know pretty quick there is a problem.
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thats not the point mate,,,..but thx for trying to help
regards
Diagrafeas said:
Check this link about what packages are/aren't needed in OEM.
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boy......that is SOMETHING ....thx a lot Diagrafeas
regards
One thing I've found with the OEM is that if you convert the .provxml's to app.reg files (for the ones with registry operations-don't mess with ones that load certificates and what-not), it will really speed up your first boot-time. There's really no good reason, for instance, to have a provxml load your OEM version. Just put that in a .reg file and delete the .provxml. I get to the welcome screen in 90 s with most of the registry operations loaded into app.reg files, and during screen alignment, the cursor moves quickly. If you use autorun for customization, though, you need to leave alone the autoruncfg reg key that is in the 107 (think that's the one) provxml.
Ok heres my dilema:
I wan't to cook in loads of manila files, but theres a few different versions of each one, and they aren't going into windows.
its better I explain it, heres an example:
Root Folder
\Folder 1
¬FileX
\Folder 2
¬FileX
\Folder 3
¬FileX
How can I do this? is I cant put the same file (FileX) in the files folder of a package as it has the same file name... The only way I can think of is to have a seperate package for each invidual file, and considering theres over 40 files, its going to take a long time!
Are there anymore efficient ways to do this? Thanks
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Ok heres my dilema:
I wan't to cook in loads of manila files, but theres a few different versions of each one, and they aren't going into windows.
its better I explain it, heres an example:
Root Folder
\Folder 1
¬FileX
\Folder 2
¬FileX
\Folder 3
¬FileX
How can I do this? is I cant put the same file (FileX) in the files folder of a package as it has the same file name... The only way I can think of is to have a seperate package for each invidual file, and considering theres over 40 files, its going to take a long time!
Are there anymore efficient ways to do this? Thanks
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If all these files go into "\Windows", there will be only one in the end ... not 40. Meaning the last "FileX" your kitchen finds will have overwritten all the others ...
You can't end up with all these files, without doing a little bit of legwork.
When you cook a ROM, all the files end up in \Windows, and are then moved around as required.
So, you could either cook all the files in with different names (so they don't overwrite) and then move them using a provxml or initflashfiles.dat, or you could cab up all the files, and run the cab after first boot.
The easiest way is to use a cab or to put everything in a zip file and use an 'inzipall' mortscript to unzip the folders wherever you want during customization.
Diegis0n said:
If all these files go into "\Windows", there will be only one in the end ... not 40. Meaning the last "FileX" your kitchen finds will have overwritten all the others ...
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Yeah thats what I thought , althought I didnt know they went into windows first, thanks.
l3v5y said:
You can't end up with all these files, without doing a little bit of legwork.
When you cook a ROM, all the files end up in \Windows, and are then moved around as required.
So, you could either cook all the files in with different names (so they don't overwrite) and then move them using a provxml or initflashfiles.dat, or you could cab up all the files, and run the cab after first boot.
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Hmm the cab sounds like a good aproach, although still I wouldn't be able to have more than one manila file with the same name in the cab.
Farmer Ted said:
The easiest way is to use a cab or to put everything in a zip file and use an 'inzipall' mortscript to unzip the folders wherever you want during customization.
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hmm thats a good idea, could you point me to that script please
[★] said:
Yeah thats what I thought , althought I didnt know they went into windows first, thanks.
Hmm the cab sounds like a good aproach, although still I wouldn't be able to have more than one manila file with the same name in the cab.
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Cab files do allow you to specify the paths, so they do allow you to have files with the same name. WinCE CAB Manager is a good choice to create cabs. You can then use RunCC / Autorun/ XDA_UC to install it during the first boot.
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hmm thats a good idea, could you point me to that script please
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Just take a look at this package; it has a zip file, a mortscript, and the add2config that you need. Here's a mortscript package that you can use.
You could also rename the files for example "1_FileX", "2_FileX" and have initflashfiles.dat rename it to the filename you want it to be, like so:
Directory("\Folder_1"):-File("FileX","\Windows\1_FileX")
Directory("\Folder_2"):-File("FileX","\Windows\2_FileX")
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But that would really clog up your ROM, so the mortscript way is better.
ock said:
Cab files do allow you to specify the paths, so they do allow you to have files with the same name. WinCE CAB Manager is a good choice to create cabs. You can then use RunCC / Autorun/ XDA_UC to install it during the first boot.
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Yes but putting the files in will overwrite eachother, as they have to have the same file name
Farmer Ted said:
Just take a look at this package; it has a zip file, a mortscript, and the add2config that you need. Here's a mortscript package that you can use.
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Thanks I dont understand what the mortscript for is (the one from 4shared) but Im using the add2config package, I think I get it I will let you know when its finished cooking. Although I am having a problem where none of my add2config packages are working so it might be useless
seeM_ZA said:
You could also rename the files for example "1_FileX", "2_FileX" and have initflashfiles.dat rename it to the filename you want it to be, like so:
But that would really clog up your ROM, so the mortscript way is better.
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Yeah but the files have to keep the same name
You need mortscript support cooked into your rom one way or another if you're going to use zip files; that's what the 4shared package is for.
l3v5y said:
So, you could either cook all the files in with different names (so they don't overwrite) and then move them using a provxml or initflashfiles.dat
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+1 for this...
ai6908 said:
+1 for this...
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That's ok if you're talking a couple of files, but if you're talking a few dozen (or more), then putting together all the initflashes scripts will get tedious.
Farmer Ted said:
That's ok if you're talking a couple of files, but if you're talking a few dozen (or more), then putting together all the initflashes scripts will get tedious.
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Did you get my message?
and yeah, it seems your mortscript may be easier If I can get add2config to work lol
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The attached .provxml will not execute. It's supposed to associate icons with folders in the start menu, but it's just not working. It is totally unmodified from the Rhodium S2 ROM. The directories are there as the initflashfiles.dat file is unmodified and the folders are in the start menu. Anyone care to help?
Your file is fine so I guess that you have the same issue I had .
I guess you don't have that provxml added to any of dsm files . Just use this tool and add it to any of dsm files.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523139
You can also use xml parser to check if file is good, for example Serna Editor.
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Maybe I'm wrong, so if you already have this provxml added to any of dsm files, we'll look for more reasons. One more question, do you try to cook this into ROM or execute from Advanced Configuration Tool?
It's cooked in. The package is directly from the Rhodium S2 ROM, so I don't quite understand why it's not executing. I'm thinking about putting it in another OEM folder and seeing if that will help. Heck I'm lost, and about to turn it in for the night.
As I wrote, try adding it manually to dsm file in that OEM folder, this should help you, if this won't help, then I'm out of ideas.
Anyway, you can just add content of that provxml to another provxml, it's dirty way but probably the easiest one.
This happens because the messenger.lnk have not been created when this provxml is executed and it fails.
So just rename the provxml to mxipupdate_zprojectdefault_a_000.provxml
Notice the "z" ahead of the project.
This trick will put the provxml after the mxipupdate_windowsliveim_1.provxml, so the messenger.lnk will have been created and the provxml will run just fine.
But he said that provxml isn't excuted at all, I'm out of ideas . Anyway, it's worth to give your idea a try.
jwzg said:
The attached .provxml will not execute. It's supposed to associate icons with folders in the start menu, but it's just not working. It is totally unmodified from the Rhodium S2 ROM. The directories are there as the initflashfiles.dat file is unmodified and the folders are in the start menu. Anyone care to help?
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the provxml isn´t executed on my rhodium as well. but renaming to mxipupdate_zzzzprojectdefault_a_000.provxml
does work for me.
as the posters above me wrote:
the problem seems to be the messenger package which includes another *provxml file which should be prozessed BEFORE mxipupdate_projectdefault_a_000.provxml but it isn´t! also *.provxml aren´t prozessed if there´s a failure inside. when you remove a program and you don´t clear the line in the *.provxml the file would not me prozessed.
this problem is related to platformrebuilder breaking something, you can pm airxtreme for info, it seems that he solved this problem in his wonderful kitchen
steph
Provxml can be launched but they stops at the line it find a problem so it seems that it doesnt works.
Platform rebuilder can reads DSM in EVK? or just in OsK? or none?
Renaming the .provxml solved the issue. Man, the start menu looks good now! Thanks!
Great, I wouldn't think about renaming on my own . Anyway, it seems that those provxml files are processed in alphabetical order, right?
everything is alphabetical order processed in platform rebuilder based kitchens ¬¬
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Dude!!! The sameprob here with Leo ROM... same file... going to try your tip!
kurniawan77 said:
Dude!!! The sameprob here with Leo ROM... same file... going to try your tip!
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@kurniawan77 - Did it work for you?
Same prob here, using osKitchen Zero for HTC LEO. Already tried renaming by adding zzz in name and also tried adding the provxml in dsm. Any other suggestions? This is drving me nuts, please help.
p/s: also tried opening the provxml in internet explorer/XML notepad 2007 - no errors. Made sure there are no "<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>" in the headers.
Try to replace platformrebuilder.exe with another version, that did the trick for me.
Before you ask, sorry but I'm using a private edition of platformbuilder so I can't share.
I'm using platformrebuilder.exe v.2.1.0.0
tidus18 said:
@kurniawan77 - Did it work for you?
Same prob here, using osKitchen Zero for HTC LEO. Already tried renaming by adding zzz in name and also tried adding the provxml in dsm. Any other suggestions? This is drving me nuts, please help.
p/s: also tried opening the provxml in internet explorer/XML notepad 2007 - no errors. Made sure there are no "<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>" in the headers.
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tidus18 said:
@kurniawan77 - Did it work for you?
Same prob here, using osKitchen Zero for HTC LEO. Already tried renaming by adding zzz in name and also tried adding the provxml in dsm. Any other suggestions? This is drving me nuts, please help.
p/s: also tried opening the provxml in internet explorer/XML notepad 2007 - no errors. Made sure there are no "<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>" in the headers.
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You still have problems even with oskitchen 1.31beta3? Some people reported the new DSM-based provxml order to be working fine.
Evil Provxmls....
airxtreme said:
You still have problems even with oskitchen 1.31beta3? Some people reported the new DSM-based provxml order to be working fine.
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Hi Airxtreme - Thanks for developing the kitchen! Its really great. But i just recently moved to osK Zero from ervius. Previously in ervius i didnt even bother to add provxmls in any dsm. I dont quite understand DSM management fully, but i did add the provxmls in DSM of my ext package (ext package contains my custom icons for start menu and the provxml to add reg entries).
When i get back home, i will try to rebuild the ROM with older version of kitchen and report back. Currently im using v1.31Beta3.
p/s: i had trouble with theme provxmls as well, finally i had to put all the theme files in Operatorpkg, and put the xml entries in HTC's provxmls (the one named HTC_100) for it to work.
Laurentius26 said:
Try to replace platformrebuilder.exe with another version, that did the trick for me.
Before you ask, sorry but I'm using a private edition of platformbuilder so I can't share.
I'm using platformrebuilder.exe v.2.1.0.0
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2.1.0.0? Then what's the version that is publically available? And can you say something about the new functions, etc.? Thanks!
tidus18 said:
Hi Airxtreme - Thanks for developing the kitchen! Its really great. But i just recently moved to osK Zero from ervius. Previously in ervius i didnt even bother to add provxmls in any dsm. I dont quite understand DSM management fully, but i did add the provxmls in DSM of my ext package (ext package contains my custom icons for start menu and the provxml to add reg entries).
When i get back home, i will try to rebuild the ROM with older version of kitchen and report back. Currently im using v1.31Beta3.
p/s: i had trouble with theme provxmls as well, finally i had to put all the theme files in Operatorpkg, and put the xml entries in HTC's provxmls (the one named HTC_100) for it to work.
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Those having problem with provxmls where it is used to overwrite other provxmls in sys (ie: for theme settings), please try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7038082&postcount=2477
This version of your kitchen solved all my probs. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I only tried to help make the provxml load
Bepe created the kitchen tool and knows everything about it.
Edit; a bit late but the version I use is 2.1.0.0 indeed.
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2.1.0.0? Then what's the version that is publically available? And can you say something about the new functions, etc.? Thanks!
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tidus18 said:
Those having problem with provxmls where it is used to overwrite other provxmls in sys (ie: for theme settings), please try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7038082&postcount=2477
This version of your kitchen solved all my probs. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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glad it worked out for u... been away for days... working on bugfixes... and more. v1.31b3 from worked out even better... sorry for late response
First of all, sorry for openeing a new thread; but surely i have searched all of chef central din't find anything much or maybe din't understand which one was my solution.
The problem is after boot of my ROM ( regardless of which boot ie 1st 2nd or 10th ) i get 2 pop up errors:
1) "The file 'programs' cannot be opened. Either is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of it's components cannot be found.If the problem persists please try reinstalling or restoring this file."
2) "The file 'Tools' cannot be opened. Either is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of it's components cannot be found.If the problem persists please try reinstalling or restoring this file."
I have a folder called "Tools" in the start menu, and it works fine, and everything inside also works good. But still this error.
I'm pretty sure all the Packages cooked which are meant to go in this folder do go in.
And the programs error is it anything to do with the fact that in the APP.DAT in almost all packages i have used similar naming:
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Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Tweaks"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\_Flip_IT.lnk")
and also added similar REG in the REGS :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\Tools\Tweaks\Flip_it.lnk]
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As i was not sure which one will decide the location, so some packages have only .REGs, some have only APP.DATs and some have both ( but all the locations are same that is sure !)
Please help me with this.
Thanks alot.
PS: I have enabled NoCert in EVK, and also cooked in the latest ( 2015 ? ) SDKCerts EXT. And after that no other apps give an unsigned problem.
Just a question, this isnt the full app.dat right?
Code:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Tweaks"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\_Flip_IT.lnk")
If yes, you miss some lines,this app.dat is just copying a link to startmenu but i guess that you need the program in Windows.
i'm afraid that is the full App.DAT
here is another one
Code:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows"):-Directory("appdb")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_end_mid_2.png","\Windows\_end_mid_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_end_mid_8.png","\Windows\_end_mid_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_folder_2.png","\Windows\_folder_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_folder_8.png","\Windows\_folder_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_folder_8_2.png","\Windows\_folder_8_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_lock_gray.png","\Windows\_lock_gray.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_lock_green.png","\Windows\_lock_green.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_lock_red.png","\Windows\_lock_red.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_logo_2.png","\Windows\_logo_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_single_2.png","\Windows\_single_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_single_8.png","\Windows\_single_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_start_2.png","\Windows\_start_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_start_8.png","\Windows\_start_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_suite_2.png","\Windows\_suite_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_suite_8.png","\Windows\_suite_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_ack_2.png","\Windows\_ack_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_ack_8.png","\Windows\_ack_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_compiling.png","\Windows\_compiling.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_disable_2.png","\Windows\_disable_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_disable_8.png","\Windows\_disable_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_dt_2.png","\Windows\_dt_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_dt_8.png","\Windows\_dt_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_dukeok_2.png","\Windows\_dukeok_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_dukeok_8.png","\Windows\_dukeok_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_empty.png","\Windows\_empty.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_end_ams_2.png","\Windows\_end_ams_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_end_ams_8.png","\Windows\_end_ams_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_logo_8.png","\Windows\_logo_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\\Tools\System"):-File("Java.lnk","\Windows\Java.lnk")
This seems to be correct right ?
Can you please tell me does APP.DAT decide the position or REG ? and what if both exist.
Thanks.
Can an incomplete app.dat cause those errors ?
EDIT: i have identified 3 packages have incomlete app.dat
1) task manager
app.dat says :
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\"):-File("Task Manager.lnk","\Windows\dotFred Task Manager.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Utilities"):-File("Regeditor.lnk","\Windows\dotFred RegEdit.lnk")
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reg also defines a location.
2) flip it
app.dat says
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Tweaks"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\_Flip_IT.lnk")
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reg defines location and settings.
3) torch
app.dat says
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Utilities"):-File("hTorch Flashlight.lnk","\Windows\hTorch Flashlight.lnk")
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reg defines settings only.
4) reg editor
app.dat says:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tool\Utilities"):-File("PHM RegEdit.lnk","\Windows\PHM RegEdit.lnk")
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reg defines sttings and location.
Can anyone of the above cause the issue ?
can some please help me correct them ?
Thanks.
EDIT: can someone please tell me the REG to enable Call Waiting Tone.
I don't hear any tone it when i have a call waiting.
The app.dat decide the position of file and folders.
I found thi " Flip-IT" from a Tom Codon thread and i used Cab Converter for extracting it.
This is the App.dat that i got:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\Flip_IT.lnk")
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In red are the subfolders that doesnt come with the original.
There are some difference with your but i dunno if this is the problem but worth try.
Umm well i have defined those locations as to fit them lnk in the place i want in the start menu.. isn't that the way ?
Im Quoting you from 1st post:
1) "The file 'programs' cannot be opened. Either is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of it's components cannot be found.If the problem persists please try reinstalling or restoring this file."
2) "The file 'Tools' cannot be opened. Either is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of it's components cannot be found.If the problem persists please try reinstalling or restoring this file."
you got this popup error automatically, no need to open any folder\file?
It seems that you put a wrong shortcut to files called "Tools and programs" in your StratUp folder.
Check some other App.dat
i have checked all APP.DAT in the EXT can't find any which i cook and does not get cokked in the correct location ?
Umm and the two errors are seperate not in one only.
So i guess the conflict is there with 2 seperate folders "Tools" and "programs" respectively.
Ideally it should not conflict with tools, because i do have a tools folder in the start menu.. so everything should go there :/
any other help?
Try to cook a rom without one of the latest apps that you have add and if the problem gone then you have find the issue,after that post here the responsable so we can look at it.
madnish30 said:
i have checked all APP.DAT in the EXT can't find any which i cook and does not get cokked in the correct location ?
Umm and the two errors are seperate not in one only.
So i guess the conflict is there with 2 seperate folders "Tools" and "programs" respectively.
Ideally it should not conflict with tools, because i do have a tools folder in the start menu.. so everything should go there :/
any other help?
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Try to cook a rom without one of the latest apps that you have add and if the problem gone then you have find the issue,after that post here the responsable so we can look at it.
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I'll try and cook without the 5 EXT i identified with wrong app.dats ?
I have had this problem since long, but i din't bother much, so i really don't know whats the issue..
it has been there basically since i tweaked the start menu locations.
now i have to get rid of it cuz any ROM user won't like to just press ok and continue with the ROM.
I'll try.
My suggestion is to try one by one but ofcourse this way you need to flash 5 times your phone.
Did you ,maybe,tweaked your Initflashfile.dat?
madnish30 said:
I'll try and cook without the 5 EXT i identified with wrong app.dats ?
I have had this problem since long, but i din't bother much, so i really don't know whats the issue..
it has been there basically since i tweaked the start menu locations.
now i have to get rid of it cuz any ROM user won't like to just press ok and continue with the ROM.
I'll try.
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No i don't play with initiaflash... because i don't know much about it..
I guess i will not cook anyone of them so that if its one of them i will just download fresh CABs for them and convert them into EXTs rather than flashing my phone 5 times..
Thanks alot.
i tried cooking without those apps no luck
Same 2 errors hence those 2 apps are ok..
Attached my Initflashfile.dat if that helps.
Please help.
You really need to look in your startup folder to see what is in there. That's the first thing to do. Then, look in the start menu and see if anything weird is going on. Particularly, look for corrupted files or folders. If there are any files that look like folders, that could be the issue.
You're initflashfiles.dat is effin' huge!! Learn to make a cab, or relocate apps to windows. You must be wasting a ton of storage space.
thanks for the help Ted,
In the startup i see 2 folders
1) programs in which there is tools->system->Arkswitch.
2) tools -> system -> XDA_UC.
rest are the normal i guess.
Then in the startmenu it seems fine.
but one problem there i see in the start menu i see a system folder which is empty AFAIK i did not create and such path why is that there ?
You're initflashfiles.dat is effin' huge!! Learn to make a cab, or relocate apps to windows. You must be wasting a ton of storage space.
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I'm not good with initflashfiles.dat i don't know much about it.
Can you please link me to a thread where i can learn about it.
Also what do you mean by CABs ? does that mean using UC to install via CABs ?
And how can i reloacte apps to windows ?
can you give a little explaination please.
thanks alot for the help.
The app.dat for Arksswitch is
Directory("\Windows"):-Directory("StartUp")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("Tools")
Directory("\Program Files"):-Directory("ArkSwitch")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-Directory("Theme")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-Directory("NLS")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\NLS"):-File("1033.xml","\Windows\1033.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\NLS"):-File("1036.xml","\Windows\1036.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\NLS"):-File("1040.xml","\Windows\1040.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\NLS"):-File("1049.xml","\Windows\1049.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\Theme"):-File("config.xml","\Windows\config.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\Theme"):-File("status-bar.png","\Windows\status-bar.png")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\Theme"):-File("x-deselected.png","\Windows\x-deselected.png")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\Theme"):-File("x-selected.png","\Windows\x-selected.png")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-File("Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Gestures.dll","\Windows\Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Gestures.dll")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-File("ArkSwitch.exe","\Windows\ArkSwitch.exe")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-File("ArkSwitchNative.dll","\Windows\ArkSwitchNative.dll")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\System"):-File("ArkSwitch.lnk","\Windows\_ArkSwitch.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\StartUp\Programs\\Tools\System"):-File("ArkSwitch.lnk","\Windows\_ArkSwitch.lnk")
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and the app.dat for XDA_UC is
Directory("\Windows\StartUp\Tools\System"):-File("XDA_UC.mscr","\Windows\XDA_UC.mscr")
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Please help me correct the two in order to remove the warning.
Will try and cook without them to see if they cause they problem.
I don't use xda_uc, but delete the sub-folders in startup and the problems go away.
App.dat copies files from windows to other places. In many cases, an app works fine in windows. You just need to fix paths (shortcuts, registry) so they point to windows. It's a complete waste to have two copies of all your files, especially when the ones in rom work perfectly fine. Personally, I don't even use app.dat's, except to create directories and to copy the important customization links into startup.
Edit: ok, so I'm looking at your initflashfiles.dat. One, there's something weird with your Manila twitter lines. Why does it appear twice? That's kind of a waste, and will slow down 1st boot. Also, you've got a dozen mui files in there. Just put in the one you need (0409 or whatever), and delete the rest. You've to two copies of a bunch of files that you don't use. Remove the lines you don't need from the app.dat.
As far as relocating apps, you've got 20 or so that would work fine in windows. For example, clean ram does not have to be in program files. Just leave the exe's in windows, and send 1 lang file to \windows\lang. The app will work fine. Do you really need 20 lang files for cleanram? Dude, that's a total waste.
Here's an easy one to fix: pocket rar. You've got two copies of it now on your device. Just get a shortcut for it to windows, and you're done. You stick rar.exe in a package, along with the shortcut, and send the shortcut to the start menu as normal. Speaking of which, it looks like you've got a syntax error there:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\\Tools\System"):-File("Pocket RAR.lnk","\Windows\_Pocket RAR.lnk")
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Get rid of the extra \.
Thanks sir i got it, now i will impliment it.
Sir if you don't use app.dats then how do you chose which package shows up where in the start menu ?
I do pretty much everything with morscripts. I put all files and directories in zip files that are unzipped during customization, and all shortcuts are created by a script. This reduces the rom file count by hundreds (I have about 1800 rom files), and the zip files reduce the storage memory for files that have to be inserted elsewhere. There's also a restore script that resores files that change a lot and that aren't practical to cook in.
Anyway, were I you, I'd work on fixing all of your packages to make the rom more efficiently designed (instead of worrying about upgrading build numbers). I bet you could removed 500 files and clean up a crazy amount of memory (like 50 mb). It can be tricky moving an app to windows. Some apps have .ini files or similar settings files, and the app will crash or not load if the setting file is read-only, so you need to get the file into windows without having it read only (do it with an app.dat that copies or renames it to windows). Some apps have their settings in the same damn file name (like settings.txt), so you can't have them both in the same directory.
To relocate to windows, almost anything in the root program folder (like \program files\cleanram) can be moved straight to windows. Sub-folders generally just need to be moved to \windows. Typically, an exe looks for .dlls first in its own directory and second in \windows, so just about any dll can be moved to windows without issue. It will then usually look for the support files in the same directory that it's located in. The only apps I've had problems with are resco keyboard (the skin files seem to be hard coded to program files), and the latest Power Radio (2.4.0.2, or something like that). I had a bunch of power radio packages that worked fine in windows, but the latest wouldn't, so I just didn't do the upgrade.
It's usually easiest just to test things without cooking. In your case, you've already got everything in windows. Just click on exes and see what works and what doesn't. Some apps will need sub-folders relocated to windows, and it looks like your cab-to-ext package unfortunately renamed the rom files, so some files in the program folder will need to be copied to windows. Just do this for testing purposes, to see what works and what doesn't. I bet your rom is effin huge, and you could make it a lot leaner by cleaning your packages up. The cab-to-ext makers all more or less suck; it's better to do things manually (or with kheb 1.1).
Edit: you've got the tachan black theme in there twice, too. You really, really don't need those files copied elsewhere. I'm guessing there's a reg file with all the file locations (in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Today). Fix it!!! All you need to do is do a 'replace all' and replace \\My Documents\\Themes\\tacchan23black with \\windows. Then delete that gawdawful app.dat file (both occurrences). That will remove 101 redundant files.
Do you remember this from your 1st post?
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Tweaks"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\_Flip_IT.lnk")
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Here is (marked in red) your System folder (empty) in startmenu.
madnish30 said:
Then in the startmenu it seems fine.
but one problem there i see in the start menu i see a system folder which is empty AFAIK i did not create and such path why is that there ?
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Thanks ted & af974.
i will try to do things you suggested.
But Ted, what does the attachment mscr do ?
I attached and EXT package from Chucky's Rom thanks to birkoffsjunk, i guess you will understand what mscr does looking at it.
madnish30 said:
Thanks ted & af974.
i will try to do things you suggested.
But Ted, what does the attachment mscr do ?
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Sorry for being dumb once again.
I know how to create an XML and convert reg files to PROVXML etc but :
I flashed my cooked rom and did snapshot with kheb made all my changes and got a difference .reg file.
I converted that to PROVXML cause i believe its the best way of doing it.
What I dont know is what to do with it and where to put it in order to flash it.
Ive put it under custom settings\files but iot needs to be named something specifically according to 0Kitchen . Also i have an xml file that has my exchange settings in that which i want to cook in as well but dont know how.
I do use XDA uc but id prefer to let it be done with runcc or something?
Please advise whats better and whats the difference between the differentx PROVXML file naming.
Thanx
I would preffer using reg instead Provxml because they take a lot of time for 1st boot....anyway you need to name them mxip_xxxx.provxml if im not wrong.
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I would preffer using reg instead Provxml because they take a lot of time for 1st boot....anyway you need to name them mxip_xxxx.provxml if im not wrong.
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Can i renam the exchange.xml to mxip_exchange.provxml as well. does a xml and provxml contain the same information/layout?
Uhmm...it seems that should work, give a look here http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6995989.
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Can i renam the exchange.xml to mxip_exchange.provxml as well. does a xml and provxml contain the same information/layout?
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Uhmm...it seems that should work, give a look here http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6995989.
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Leme just try quickly we do flash like 30 times a day in any case hey. Will revdert just now
Thanx for your help
There's various file names, mxip, mxipinit and mxipupdate. In my experience I've never needed to add anything to a .dsm file, as long as the extension is .provxml they execute ok.
What I do though, is put my post-boot provxml's into the very last folder that my kitchen picks up so it's named ZZZ_postboot_provxml or something similar and I also name the file to mxipupdate_zzzPostBoot.provxml but I'm not sure if this helps. I do this because:
If you use total commander and search for *.provxml files in your windows folder you might find that none of them have the original name you gave in your packages, but if you step through the files you find there, you can see the execution order.
Hope this helps a bit.
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There's various file names, mxip, mxipinit and mxipupdate. In my experience I've never needed to add anything to a .dsm file, as long as the extension is .provxml they execute ok.
What I do though, is put my post-boot provxml's into the very last folder that my kitchen picks up so it's named ZZZ_postboot_provxml or something similar and I also name the file to mxipupdate_zzzPostBoot.provxml but I'm not sure if this helps. I do this because:
If you use total commander and search for *.provxml files in your windows folder you might find that none of them have the original name you gave in your packages, but if you step through the files you find there, you can see the execution order.
Hope this helps a bit.
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ok so postboot is also one of the names like mxipinit and mxipupdate. Why are there so many different ones and which ones are executed in what order?
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ok so postboot is also one of the names like mxipinit and mxipupdate. Why are there so many different ones and which ones are executed in what order?
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I think the order is all to do with the way the kitchen picks them up. e.g. I use OSKitchen and it seems SYS, then OEM, then EXT packages are picked up, alphabetically-so my provxml's get the same order, which is why I put them in a package of their own with the ZZZ_postboot name. It just makes it the last one to be picked up of the EXT packages-ensuring everything is in place when the script runs
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I think the order is all to do with the way the kitchen picks them up. e.g. I use OSKitchen and it seems SYS, then OEM, then EXT packages are picked up, alphabetically-so my provxml's get the same order, which is why I put them in a package of their own with the ZZZ_postboot name. It just makes it the last one to be picked up of the EXT packages-ensuring everything is in place when the script runs
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Ok lemme try
Im trying to change my timezone from dublin -8 to gmt +2. n start kheb take snapshot make the change get i difference .reg file. convert it to xml and the paste it in files folder of lastflash folder?? ill try and see what happens