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Can we create the ultimate ROM???

We have the technology we can rebuilt it.
It occured to me that we should be able to build the ultimte "base" rom to use in the kitchen.
I would propose that it be based on the TMO 4.01.16 but make the installation of all the additional apps such as TMO toolbar, myemail, pdf and ppt viewers optional. I would also propose that sample windows media files and be removed.
Such a rom would give us the maximum space into which to add the appilications we chose but still allow us the flexibility to add some of the apps and settings that service providers supply. (much as the old Devlopers ROM did)
Just a thought
maudc
PS 3 cheers for Lumpistefan and Makis!!! :!: :!: :!:

That is a good idea. I think we can do it with mkrom.zip. We will need a linux op. but I think it will do the job under windows with cygwin.
I started to see the txt files, ini files etc, but I am at the beginning.
I want to make a good rom, like you. With no helps, no unneccesarry files, custom files (my ringtones for example) in the rom.
I only need time.

how
can you actually remove files from ROM ?
I couldn`t do it.
It will be great indeed.

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decebal said:
can you actually remove files from ROM ?
We want to build a ROM without some files. Not to remove files from a working ROM in the devices flash memory.
There is a file in the mkrom/cfg folder:
initobj.txt
It contains a filelist. I think there is a place to delete the files. But I have not tried. I have not time now.
Gabor
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Re: how
decebal said:
can you actually remove files from ROM ?
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I think this is the big problem.....
Until now it´s not possible to remove Files from the rom....
What should be able is overwriting files from the ROm. But i think this doesn´t make much sense....
Stefan

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LumpiStefan said:
decebal said:
can you actually remove files from ROM ?
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I think this is the big problem.....
Until now it´s not possible to remove Files from the rom....
What should be able is overwriting files from the ROm. But i think this doesn´t make much sense....
Stefan
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So what do we do in that case?

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Sallala said:
There is a file in the mkrom/cfg folder:
initobj.txt
It contains a filelist. I think there is a place to delete the files. But I have not tried. I have not time now.
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You're wrong.the initobj.txt file just conatins a list where to copy some files out of the rom. All Files are located in \Windows. The initobj.txt files contains the list, which file should be moved to wihich directory.
90% of this are the files in "Start Menu" and Help ....
So i see now chance to delete files out of the rom....
Stefan

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LumpiStefan said:
Sallala said:
There is a file in the mkrom/cfg folder:
initobj.txt
It contains a filelist. I think there is a place to delete the files. But I have not tried. I have not time now.
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You're wrong.the initobj.txt file just conatins a list where to copy some files out of the rom. All Files are located in \Windows. The initobj.txt files contains the list, which file should be moved to wihich directory.
90% of this are the files in "Start Menu" and Help ....
So i see now chance to delete files out of the rom....
Stefan
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Stefan I can get from you this file is like the Config.txt in the Extended_Rom in Himalaya. I can understand now how you could remove the Msn messenger shortcut into \WINDOWS\START MENU\PROGRAMS\INTERNET\CHAT & IM ????

how do i install files in a folder and out of the folder is registry file?

how do i install files in a folder and out of the folder is registry file?
when i down load a file. some of them come not as a cab file but it comes it contains a folder and a registry file out of the folder. i believe folder contains program file. where do i put which and where? can u help.

tazwik said:
how do i install files in a folder and out of the folder is registry file?
when i down load a file. some of them come not as a cab file but it comes it contains a folder and a registry file out of the folder. i believe folder contains program file. where do i put which and where? can u help.
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What are you trying to install?...and where? I am sorry if I am miss understanding you but it sounds like you have a file with a reg file and another folder named files? is this right?

something like that. when i down load a file its not a cab file.it is a zip file. when i unzip. it has a folder with program with some files in the folder, but out of the folder or root directory there is 2to 3 files look like reg file. i do not know where to place these file.

tazwik said:
something like that. when i down load a file its not a cab file.it is a zip file. when i unzip. it has a folder with program with some files in the folder, but out of the folder or root directory there is 2to 3 files look like reg file. i do not know where to place these file.
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Could you link me to the file so I can see it?

im tryin to install it in to my htc hd2 phone. its a program i downloaded. from xda. like camara hack. ther is a folder and files on the root directory. in the folder though there is a camara icon or program.

tazwik said:
im tryin to install it in to my htc hd2 phone. its a program i downloaded. from xda. like camara hack. ther is a folder and files on the root directory. in the folder though there is a camara icon or program.
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Post the file or link me to where you got it please. I want to make sure I give you good info so it works.

sounds like a cracked app, where you get the prog folder and a reg file to crack it.

samsamuel said:
sounds like a cracked app, where you get the prog folder and a reg file to crack it.
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I thought so as well till he\she said they got it on xda, that made me think maybe a kitchen ext package

The cab files can be opened with winzip on your PC. The contents of a cab file is usually an xml file, icon file and other files for installation. Are you sure you are not opening a cab file in winzip?

zelendel said:
I thought so as well till he\she said they got it on xda, that made me think maybe a kitchen ext package
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ahh yea.that makes sense.

ok for example. forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611007
CUSTOM-djet-CameraSettingsPatch , it is a rar file costum patch. when i down load it has a folder and a files where do i place the folder and where do i place the files on my THC HD2

Thats an OEM package for use in kitchens when cooking ROMS. You cant install it to a running system. (Well, not in that form anyway)

tazwik said:
ok for example. forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611007
CUSTOM-djet-CameraSettingsPatch , it is a rar file costum patch. when i down load it has a folder and a files where do i place the folder and where do i place the files on my THC HD2
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I made the files into a cab for you.

zelendel said:
I made the files into a cab for you.
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What does that one do exactly?

sirphunkee said:
What does that one do exactly?
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From the look of the reg it enables one of the hidden functions in the camera. I thought most cooks enabled all the functions when they cooked up the rom but could be wrong. I know I do

zelendel said:
From the look of the reg it enables one of the hidden functions in the camera. I thought most cooks enabled all the functions when they cooked up the rom but could be wrong. I know I do
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Gotcha, thanks man! Just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing anything I don't already have

icons
can u help me with one more thing. i downloaded some icons. it does not have any other files but icons and album file. when i place the file into the windows directory. gives me an message that it can not be overitten due to not enough space and file is being used. how do i change go around it.

thks jelendel. for making file in to cab.

similar problems/questions
most cab files/apps i download and install are very straight forward and I save to storage card and there are right there on my "start" screen. others I download and I cant find them? I look through the file explorer but either cant find them or dont know what to do if I do find the file.
example, egg timer 1.0 -I can find it listed on "remove programs" page page so I know I got it. but how do I get it to a more 'usable' location.
another example. I want to get the Bluetooth toggle (BTtoggle) from pocketnow site. I downloaded the app, then it says I need to edit my registry (I understand the dangers of this) at
"HKLM\software\HTC\Manilla" and change the value of HomeLSKPath to the path to your BTtoggle.exe .....etc.....
First time editing registry, so sounds like I need to get a registry editor. I looked for a free one. CeRegEdit version 5.2.exe file. looks like it downloaded ok but I cant find on device??
LASTLY, I use CoOkies home editor and I really like it, but does that mean I cant do other changes/app installs to any HTC sense items/lock screen/home screen/etc? thanks for reading this far....steve
Or if you know of easier to get bluetooth toggle or any kind of timer applications so I dont burn food at the fire station, feel free to reccomend...Thanks

808Granato said:
Or if you know of easier to get bluetooth toggle or any kind of timer applications so I dont burn food at the fire station, feel free to reccomend...Thanks
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Aloha, and just because you're in civil service like that, I'll give you a hand with this one here...but it's usually best to open a new thread with a bunch of questions like that. You can just edit your post above to just say "moved to new thread", and then copy all that you wrote into a new thread you start...you'll probably get more views/responses that way too
These cabs will give you a toggle for bluetooth, wifi, and a reset button. Once you run the cab, you can find them in your start menu, but they're most useful when you assign them to one of the quicklink spots (on your home tab), just like you would any other program.
P.S. you'll find a lot more useful stuff for your new phone right here in these forums, and 99% of it is free, and known to work on the HD2 (unless stated otherwise). Start HERE and HERE

[Q] Unsigned Folders ?

First of all, sorry for openeing a new thread; but surely i have searched all of chef central din't find anything much or maybe din't understand which one was my solution.
The problem is after boot of my ROM ( regardless of which boot ie 1st 2nd or 10th ) i get 2 pop up errors:
1) "The file 'programs' cannot be opened. Either is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of it's components cannot be found.If the problem persists please try reinstalling or restoring this file."
2) "The file 'Tools' cannot be opened. Either is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of it's components cannot be found.If the problem persists please try reinstalling or restoring this file."
I have a folder called "Tools" in the start menu, and it works fine, and everything inside also works good. But still this error.
I'm pretty sure all the Packages cooked which are meant to go in this folder do go in.
And the programs error is it anything to do with the fact that in the APP.DAT in almost all packages i have used similar naming:
Code:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Tweaks"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\_Flip_IT.lnk")
and also added similar REG in the REGS :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\Tools\Tweaks\Flip_it.lnk]
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As i was not sure which one will decide the location, so some packages have only .REGs, some have only APP.DATs and some have both ( but all the locations are same that is sure !)
Please help me with this.
Thanks alot.
PS: I have enabled NoCert in EVK, and also cooked in the latest ( 2015 ? ) SDKCerts EXT. And after that no other apps give an unsigned problem.

Just a question, this isnt the full app.dat right?
Code:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Tweaks"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\_Flip_IT.lnk")
If yes, you miss some lines,this app.dat is just copying a link to startmenu but i guess that you need the program in Windows.

i'm afraid that is the full App.DAT
here is another one
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Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows"):-Directory("appdb")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_end_mid_2.png","\Windows\_end_mid_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_end_mid_8.png","\Windows\_end_mid_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_folder_2.png","\Windows\_folder_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_folder_8.png","\Windows\_folder_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_folder_8_2.png","\Windows\_folder_8_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_lock_gray.png","\Windows\_lock_gray.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_lock_green.png","\Windows\_lock_green.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_lock_red.png","\Windows\_lock_red.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_logo_2.png","\Windows\_logo_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_single_2.png","\Windows\_single_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_single_8.png","\Windows\_single_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_start_2.png","\Windows\_start_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_start_8.png","\Windows\_start_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_suite_2.png","\Windows\_suite_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_suite_8.png","\Windows\_suite_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_ack_2.png","\Windows\_ack_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_ack_8.png","\Windows\_ack_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_compiling.png","\Windows\_compiling.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_disable_2.png","\Windows\_disable_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_disable_8.png","\Windows\_disable_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_dt_2.png","\Windows\_dt_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_dt_8.png","\Windows\_dt_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_dukeok_2.png","\Windows\_dukeok_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_dukeok_8.png","\Windows\_dukeok_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_empty.png","\Windows\_empty.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_end_ams_2.png","\Windows\_end_ams_2.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_end_ams_8.png","\Windows\_end_ams_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\appdb"):-File("_logo_8.png","\Windows\_logo_8.png")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\\Tools\System"):-File("Java.lnk","\Windows\Java.lnk")
This seems to be correct right ?
Can you please tell me does APP.DAT decide the position or REG ? and what if both exist.
Thanks.
Can an incomplete app.dat cause those errors ?
EDIT: i have identified 3 packages have incomlete app.dat
1) task manager
app.dat says :
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\"):-File("Task Manager.lnk","\Windows\dotFred Task Manager.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Utilities"):-File("Regeditor.lnk","\Windows\dotFred RegEdit.lnk")
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reg also defines a location.
2) flip it
app.dat says
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Tweaks"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\_Flip_IT.lnk")
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reg defines location and settings.
3) torch
app.dat says
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Utilities"):-File("hTorch Flashlight.lnk","\Windows\hTorch Flashlight.lnk")
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reg defines settings only.
4) reg editor
app.dat says:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tool\Utilities"):-File("PHM RegEdit.lnk","\Windows\PHM RegEdit.lnk")
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reg defines sttings and location.
Can anyone of the above cause the issue ?
can some please help me correct them ?
Thanks.
EDIT: can someone please tell me the REG to enable Call Waiting Tone.
I don't hear any tone it when i have a call waiting.

The app.dat decide the position of file and folders.
I found thi " Flip-IT" from a Tom Codon thread and i used Cab Converter for extracting it.
This is the App.dat that i got:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\Flip_IT.lnk")
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In red are the subfolders that doesnt come with the original.
There are some difference with your but i dunno if this is the problem but worth try.

Umm well i have defined those locations as to fit them lnk in the place i want in the start menu.. isn't that the way ?

Im Quoting you from 1st post:
1) "The file 'programs' cannot be opened. Either is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of it's components cannot be found.If the problem persists please try reinstalling or restoring this file."
2) "The file 'Tools' cannot be opened. Either is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of it's components cannot be found.If the problem persists please try reinstalling or restoring this file."
you got this popup error automatically, no need to open any folder\file?
It seems that you put a wrong shortcut to files called "Tools and programs" in your StratUp folder.
Check some other App.dat

i have checked all APP.DAT in the EXT can't find any which i cook and does not get cokked in the correct location ?
Umm and the two errors are seperate not in one only.
So i guess the conflict is there with 2 seperate folders "Tools" and "programs" respectively.
Ideally it should not conflict with tools, because i do have a tools folder in the start menu.. so everything should go there :/
any other help?

Try to cook a rom without one of the latest apps that you have add and if the problem gone then you have find the issue,after that post here the responsable so we can look at it.
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i have checked all APP.DAT in the EXT can't find any which i cook and does not get cokked in the correct location ?
Umm and the two errors are seperate not in one only.
So i guess the conflict is there with 2 seperate folders "Tools" and "programs" respectively.
Ideally it should not conflict with tools, because i do have a tools folder in the start menu.. so everything should go there :/
any other help?
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Try to cook a rom without one of the latest apps that you have add and if the problem gone then you have find the issue,after that post here the responsable so we can look at it.
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I'll try and cook without the 5 EXT i identified with wrong app.dats ?
I have had this problem since long, but i din't bother much, so i really don't know whats the issue..
it has been there basically since i tweaked the start menu locations.
now i have to get rid of it cuz any ROM user won't like to just press ok and continue with the ROM.
I'll try.

My suggestion is to try one by one but ofcourse this way you need to flash 5 times your phone.
Did you ,maybe,tweaked your Initflashfile.dat?
madnish30 said:
I'll try and cook without the 5 EXT i identified with wrong app.dats ?
I have had this problem since long, but i din't bother much, so i really don't know whats the issue..
it has been there basically since i tweaked the start menu locations.
now i have to get rid of it cuz any ROM user won't like to just press ok and continue with the ROM.
I'll try.
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No i don't play with initiaflash... because i don't know much about it..
I guess i will not cook anyone of them so that if its one of them i will just download fresh CABs for them and convert them into EXTs rather than flashing my phone 5 times..
Thanks alot.

i tried cooking without those apps no luck
Same 2 errors hence those 2 apps are ok..
Attached my Initflashfile.dat if that helps.
Please help.

You really need to look in your startup folder to see what is in there. That's the first thing to do. Then, look in the start menu and see if anything weird is going on. Particularly, look for corrupted files or folders. If there are any files that look like folders, that could be the issue.
You're initflashfiles.dat is effin' huge!! Learn to make a cab, or relocate apps to windows. You must be wasting a ton of storage space.

thanks for the help Ted,
In the startup i see 2 folders
1) programs in which there is tools->system->Arkswitch.
2) tools -> system -> XDA_UC.
rest are the normal i guess.
Then in the startmenu it seems fine.
but one problem there i see in the start menu i see a system folder which is empty AFAIK i did not create and such path why is that there ?
You're initflashfiles.dat is effin' huge!! Learn to make a cab, or relocate apps to windows. You must be wasting a ton of storage space.
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I'm not good with initflashfiles.dat i don't know much about it.
Can you please link me to a thread where i can learn about it.
Also what do you mean by CABs ? does that mean using UC to install via CABs ?
And how can i reloacte apps to windows ?
can you give a little explaination please.
thanks alot for the help.
The app.dat for Arksswitch is
Directory("\Windows"):-Directory("StartUp")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("Tools")
Directory("\Program Files"):-Directory("ArkSwitch")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-Directory("Theme")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-Directory("NLS")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\NLS"):-File("1033.xml","\Windows\1033.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\NLS"):-File("1036.xml","\Windows\1036.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\NLS"):-File("1040.xml","\Windows\1040.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\NLS"):-File("1049.xml","\Windows\1049.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\Theme"):-File("config.xml","\Windows\config.xml")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\Theme"):-File("status-bar.png","\Windows\status-bar.png")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\Theme"):-File("x-deselected.png","\Windows\x-deselected.png")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch\Theme"):-File("x-selected.png","\Windows\x-selected.png")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-File("Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Gestures.dll","\Windows\Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Gestures.dll")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-File("ArkSwitch.exe","\Windows\ArkSwitch.exe")
Directory("\Program Files\ArkSwitch"):-File("ArkSwitchNative.dll","\Windows\ArkSwitchNative.dll")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\System"):-File("ArkSwitch.lnk","\Windows\_ArkSwitch.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\StartUp\Programs\\Tools\System"):-File("ArkSwitch.lnk","\Windows\_ArkSwitch.lnk")
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and the app.dat for XDA_UC is
Directory("\Windows\StartUp\Tools\System"):-File("XDA_UC.mscr","\Windows\XDA_UC.mscr")
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Please help me correct the two in order to remove the warning.
Will try and cook without them to see if they cause they problem.

I don't use xda_uc, but delete the sub-folders in startup and the problems go away.
App.dat copies files from windows to other places. In many cases, an app works fine in windows. You just need to fix paths (shortcuts, registry) so they point to windows. It's a complete waste to have two copies of all your files, especially when the ones in rom work perfectly fine. Personally, I don't even use app.dat's, except to create directories and to copy the important customization links into startup.
Edit: ok, so I'm looking at your initflashfiles.dat. One, there's something weird with your Manila twitter lines. Why does it appear twice? That's kind of a waste, and will slow down 1st boot. Also, you've got a dozen mui files in there. Just put in the one you need (0409 or whatever), and delete the rest. You've to two copies of a bunch of files that you don't use. Remove the lines you don't need from the app.dat.
As far as relocating apps, you've got 20 or so that would work fine in windows. For example, clean ram does not have to be in program files. Just leave the exe's in windows, and send 1 lang file to \windows\lang. The app will work fine. Do you really need 20 lang files for cleanram? Dude, that's a total waste.
Here's an easy one to fix: pocket rar. You've got two copies of it now on your device. Just get a shortcut for it to windows, and you're done. You stick rar.exe in a package, along with the shortcut, and send the shortcut to the start menu as normal. Speaking of which, it looks like you've got a syntax error there:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\\Tools\System"):-File("Pocket RAR.lnk","\Windows\_Pocket RAR.lnk")
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Get rid of the extra \.

Thanks sir i got it, now i will impliment it.
Sir if you don't use app.dats then how do you chose which package shows up where in the start menu ?

I do pretty much everything with morscripts. I put all files and directories in zip files that are unzipped during customization, and all shortcuts are created by a script. This reduces the rom file count by hundreds (I have about 1800 rom files), and the zip files reduce the storage memory for files that have to be inserted elsewhere. There's also a restore script that resores files that change a lot and that aren't practical to cook in.
Anyway, were I you, I'd work on fixing all of your packages to make the rom more efficiently designed (instead of worrying about upgrading build numbers). I bet you could removed 500 files and clean up a crazy amount of memory (like 50 mb). It can be tricky moving an app to windows. Some apps have .ini files or similar settings files, and the app will crash or not load if the setting file is read-only, so you need to get the file into windows without having it read only (do it with an app.dat that copies or renames it to windows). Some apps have their settings in the same damn file name (like settings.txt), so you can't have them both in the same directory.
To relocate to windows, almost anything in the root program folder (like \program files\cleanram) can be moved straight to windows. Sub-folders generally just need to be moved to \windows. Typically, an exe looks for .dlls first in its own directory and second in \windows, so just about any dll can be moved to windows without issue. It will then usually look for the support files in the same directory that it's located in. The only apps I've had problems with are resco keyboard (the skin files seem to be hard coded to program files), and the latest Power Radio (2.4.0.2, or something like that). I had a bunch of power radio packages that worked fine in windows, but the latest wouldn't, so I just didn't do the upgrade.
It's usually easiest just to test things without cooking. In your case, you've already got everything in windows. Just click on exes and see what works and what doesn't. Some apps will need sub-folders relocated to windows, and it looks like your cab-to-ext package unfortunately renamed the rom files, so some files in the program folder will need to be copied to windows. Just do this for testing purposes, to see what works and what doesn't. I bet your rom is effin huge, and you could make it a lot leaner by cleaning your packages up. The cab-to-ext makers all more or less suck; it's better to do things manually (or with kheb 1.1).
Edit: you've got the tachan black theme in there twice, too. You really, really don't need those files copied elsewhere. I'm guessing there's a reg file with all the file locations (in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Today). Fix it!!! All you need to do is do a 'replace all' and replace \\My Documents\\Themes\\tacchan23black with \\windows. Then delete that gawdawful app.dat file (both occurrences). That will remove 101 redundant files.

Do you remember this from your 1st post?
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-Directory("System")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools\Tweaks"):-File("Flip_IT.lnk","\Windows\_Flip_IT.lnk")
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Here is (marked in red) your System folder (empty) in startmenu.
madnish30 said:
Then in the startmenu it seems fine.
but one problem there i see in the start menu i see a system folder which is empty AFAIK i did not create and such path why is that there ?
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Thanks ted & af974.
i will try to do things you suggested.
But Ted, what does the attachment mscr do ?

I attached and EXT package from Chucky's Rom thanks to birkoffsjunk, i guess you will understand what mscr does looking at it.
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Thanks ted & af974.
i will try to do things you suggested.
But Ted, what does the attachment mscr do ?
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[q] xml / pxml

Sorry for being dumb once again.
I know how to create an XML and convert reg files to PROVXML etc but :
I flashed my cooked rom and did snapshot with kheb made all my changes and got a difference .reg file.
I converted that to PROVXML cause i believe its the best way of doing it.
What I dont know is what to do with it and where to put it in order to flash it.
Ive put it under custom settings\files but iot needs to be named something specifically according to 0Kitchen . Also i have an xml file that has my exchange settings in that which i want to cook in as well but dont know how.
I do use XDA uc but id prefer to let it be done with runcc or something?
Please advise whats better and whats the difference between the differentx PROVXML file naming.
Thanx

I would preffer using reg instead Provxml because they take a lot of time for 1st boot....anyway you need to name them mxip_xxxx.provxml if im not wrong.

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I would preffer using reg instead Provxml because they take a lot of time for 1st boot....anyway you need to name them mxip_xxxx.provxml if im not wrong.
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Can i renam the exchange.xml to mxip_exchange.provxml as well. does a xml and provxml contain the same information/layout?

Uhmm...it seems that should work, give a look here http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6995989.
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Can i renam the exchange.xml to mxip_exchange.provxml as well. does a xml and provxml contain the same information/layout?
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Uhmm...it seems that should work, give a look here http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6995989.
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Leme just try quickly we do flash like 30 times a day in any case hey. Will revdert just now
Thanx for your help

There's various file names, mxip, mxipinit and mxipupdate. In my experience I've never needed to add anything to a .dsm file, as long as the extension is .provxml they execute ok.
What I do though, is put my post-boot provxml's into the very last folder that my kitchen picks up so it's named ZZZ_postboot_provxml or something similar and I also name the file to mxipupdate_zzzPostBoot.provxml but I'm not sure if this helps. I do this because:
If you use total commander and search for *.provxml files in your windows folder you might find that none of them have the original name you gave in your packages, but if you step through the files you find there, you can see the execution order.
Hope this helps a bit.

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There's various file names, mxip, mxipinit and mxipupdate. In my experience I've never needed to add anything to a .dsm file, as long as the extension is .provxml they execute ok.
What I do though, is put my post-boot provxml's into the very last folder that my kitchen picks up so it's named ZZZ_postboot_provxml or something similar and I also name the file to mxipupdate_zzzPostBoot.provxml but I'm not sure if this helps. I do this because:
If you use total commander and search for *.provxml files in your windows folder you might find that none of them have the original name you gave in your packages, but if you step through the files you find there, you can see the execution order.
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ok so postboot is also one of the names like mxipinit and mxipupdate. Why are there so many different ones and which ones are executed in what order?

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ok so postboot is also one of the names like mxipinit and mxipupdate. Why are there so many different ones and which ones are executed in what order?
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I think the order is all to do with the way the kitchen picks them up. e.g. I use OSKitchen and it seems SYS, then OEM, then EXT packages are picked up, alphabetically-so my provxml's get the same order, which is why I put them in a package of their own with the ZZZ_postboot name. It just makes it the last one to be picked up of the EXT packages-ensuring everything is in place when the script runs

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I think the order is all to do with the way the kitchen picks them up. e.g. I use OSKitchen and it seems SYS, then OEM, then EXT packages are picked up, alphabetically-so my provxml's get the same order, which is why I put them in a package of their own with the ZZZ_postboot name. It just makes it the last one to be picked up of the EXT packages-ensuring everything is in place when the script runs
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Ok lemme try
Im trying to change my timezone from dublin -8 to gmt +2. n start kheb take snapshot make the change get i difference .reg file. convert it to xml and the paste it in files folder of lastflash folder?? ill try and see what happens

Problems cooking quick shutdown

So, I'm pretty new at creating working ext packages from cab files, and I could use some help.
I'm trying to cook in the latest Quick Shutdown, and of course tie it to long press end key, like it was meant to be used for.
With some help from Grumps, here is what I've managed to get for my app.dat and app.reg:
app.dat:
Code:
Directory("\Windows"):-Directory("resources")
Directory("\Windows\resources"):-Directory("lang")
Directory("\Windows\resources"):-Directory("VGA")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("bg_common_divider_section.png","\Windows\bg_ common_divider_section.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("bg_common_dotline.png","\Windows\bg_common_d otline.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("bg_common_msgbox.png","\Windows\bg_common_ms gbox.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("bg_common_titlebar.png","\Windows\bg_common_ titlebar.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("btn_checkbox_thirdState.png","\Windows\btn_c heckbox_thirdState.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("btn_common_checkbox.png","\Windows\btn_commo n_checkbox.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("btn_common_combo_down.png","\Windows\btn_com mon_combo_down.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("btn_common_input.png","\Windows\btn_common_i nput.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("btn_common_listitem_bottom.png","\Windows\bt n_common_listitem_bottom.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("btn_common_listitem_middle.png","\Windows\bt n_common_listitem_middle.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("btn_common_msgbox_large.png","\Windows\btn_c ommon_msgbox_large.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("btn_common_msgbox_small.png","\Windows\btn_c ommon_msgbox_small.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("btn_common_normal.png","\Windows\btn_common_ normal.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("btn_common_slider.png","\Windows\btn_common_ slider.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\VGA"):-File("sliderBtn.png","\Windows\sliderBtn.png1")
Directory("\Windows\resources\lang"):-File("lang.czech.txt","\Windows\lang.czech.txt")
Directory("\Windows\resources\lang"):-File("lang.danish.txt","\Windows\lang.danish.txt")
Directory("\Windows\resources\lang"):-File("lang.english.txt","\Windows\lang.english.txt ")
Directory("\Windows\resources\lang"):-File("lang.french.txt","\Windows\lang.french.txt")
Directory("\Windows\resources\lang"):-File("lang.german.txt","\Windows\lang.german.txt")
Directory("\Windows\resources\lang"):-File("lang.greek.txt","\Windows\lang.greek.txt")
Directory("\Windows\resources\lang"):-File("lang.italian.txt","\Windows\lang.italian.txt ")
Directory("\Windows\resources\lang"):-File("lang.polish.txt","\Windows\lang.polish.txt")
Directory("\Windows\resources\lang"):-File("lang.russian.txt","\Windows\lang.russian.txt ")
Directory("\Windows\resources\lang"):-File("lang.spanish.txt","\Windows\lang.spanish.txt ")
Directory("\Windows"):-File("bootloader.exe","%Windows%\bootloader.exe")
Directory("\Windows"):-File("ConfigQS.exe","%Windows%\ConfigQS.exe")
Directory("\Windows"):-File("DLLSetup.dll","%Windows%\DLLSetup.dll")
Directory("\Windows"):-File("QuickShutdown.exe","%Windows%\QuickShutdown.exe")
Directory("\Windows"):-File("Short_Power.exe","%Windows%\Short_Power.exe")
Directory("%Windows-StartMenu-Programs%"):-File("Quick Shutdown.lnk","%Windows%\_Shutdown.lnk")
app.reg:
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REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Manila_Config QuickShutdown]
"SourcesDirectory"="\\Windows\\resources\\VGA\\"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Manila_QuickShutdown]
"actionShortPress"=hex:00
"BootActiv"=hex:01
"langFile"="\\Windows\\resources\\lang\\lang.english.txt"
"RestartActiv"=hex:01
"ScreenOffActiv"=hex:01
"ShutdownActiv"=hex:01
"SleepActiv"=hex:01
Cooking that package, I have a few problems. When I hold down the power button, it says exe can't be found. So, just to make sure that the visual aspect is working, I try searching for quickshutdown.exe in \Windows and can't find it.
So, what's wrong in my .dat and .reg?
Thanks a lot for the help, this will definitely give me a better understanding of how EXT packages work!
Regards
Smith

First of all, I think that these lines in your app.dat are unnecessary; because when you cook the ROM then the files that are not specified with the path in app.dat land automatically in the Windows folder:
Directory("\Windows"):-File("bootloader.exe","%Windows%\bootloader.exe")
Directory("\Windows"):-File("ConfigQS.exe","%Windows%\ConfigQS.exe")
Directory("\Windows"):-File("DLLSetup.dll","%Windows%\DLLSetup.dll")
Directory("\Windows"):-File("QuickShutdown.exe","%Windows%\QuickShutdown.exe")
Directory("\Windows"):-File("Short_Power.exe","%Windows%\Short_Power.exe")
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Second: All of the lines are wrong. Example:
Directory("\Windows"):-File("QuickShutdown.exe","%Windows%\QuickShutdown.exe")
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It should be:
Directory("\Windows"):-File("QuickShutdown.exe","\Windows\QuickShutdown.exe")
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Third: Open up the file _Shutdown.lnk in notepad and see if it links to the \Windows\QuickShutdown.exe
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Maybe you will find something in my post that can help you.

It's much, much easier to do than the way you're trying to do it. First, copying all of those files is really wasteful. If you look at your registry keys, there are paths there for the resource files. Instead of creating a \windows sub-directory, you could just set the path as \windows. Then, the files that are in rom will be used, and you won't need duplicates, or any of the app.dat lines (except for the .lnk).
Change the .rgu to this:
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REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Manila_Config QuickShutdown]
"SourcesDirectory"="\\Windows\\"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Manila_QuickShutdown]
"actionShortPress"=hex:00
"BootActiv"=hex:01
"langFile"="\\Windows\\lang.english.txt"
"RestartActiv"=hex:01
"ScreenOffActiv"=hex:01
"ShutdownActiv"=hex:01
"SleepActiv"=hex:01
Try deleting the DLLSetup.dll-it's really unlikely that you need it. It's just cabinstall information, most likely. Unless you really want all those other lang files, I'd just delete all but the English one. If you cook them all in, it's possible that you'll need to get the others into \windows\lang (it doesn't look like there's a reg key for the lang directory, just for the file being used). I don't know, I've never used the app. As mentioned above, you may also need to fix the path of the shortcut.
You may also want to look into compressing the png files, although it's not really worth it if they're only 1-2 kb each.

This is what I use. I put it together and it worked, so I never did much investigation to see if it could be optimized.
One thing to be aware of ... if you have carrier files which fire provxml, it is possible that the provxml could do something to overwrite the poweroffwarning file here. Same is true if you have a poweroffwarning file getting copied in later in the build process.
Best regards,
-boggsie

Farmer Ted said:
It's much, much easier to do than the way you're trying to do it. First, copying all of those files is really wasteful. If you look at your registry keys, there are paths there for the resource files. Instead of creating a \windows sub-directory, you could just set the path as \windows. Then, the files that are in rom will be used, and you won't need duplicates, or any of the app.dat lines (except for the .lnk).
Change the .rgu to this:
Code:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Manila_Config QuickShutdown]
"SourcesDirectory"="\\Windows\\"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Manila_QuickShutdown]
"actionShortPress"=hex:00
"BootActiv"=hex:01
"langFile"="\\Windows\\lang.english.txt"
"RestartActiv"=hex:01
"ScreenOffActiv"=hex:01
"ShutdownActiv"=hex:01
"SleepActiv"=hex:01
Try deleting the DLLSetup.dll-it's really unlikely that you need it. It's just cabinstall information, most likely. Unless you really want all those other lang files, I'd just delete all but the English one. If you cook them all in, it's possible that you'll need to get the others into \windows\lang (it doesn't look like there's a reg key for the lang directory, just for the file being used). I don't know, I've never used the app. As mentioned above, you may also need to fix the path of the shortcut.
You may also want to look into compressing the png files, although it's not really worth it if they're only 1-2 kb each.
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Great call! Worked immediately! Thanks a lot!
One more quick question. Cooking total commander is being dumb. The EXT I create doesn't have any exe files in the "files" folder, and doesn't extract any into windows. It just isn't working well lol.
Also, what version or what addon enables the user to hold the slash button and bring up the menu where you can hide exit blah blah total commander?
Thanks
Smith

Total Commander is easy to cook in. Again, you don't need app.dat lines, except for the shortcut (make sure it points to windows). Just put the .exe and the plugins (registry, wlan, ftp and webdav, if you have it) in windows. Cook in the reg settings, and you're good to go. I would convert the exe to a module as well.

Farmer Ted said:
Total Commander is easy to cook in. Again, you don't need app.dat lines, except for the shortcut (make sure it points to windows). Just put the .exe and the plugins (registry, wlan, ftp and webdav, if you have it) in windows. Cook in the reg settings, and you're good to go. I would convert the exe to a module as well.
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So... Create the EXT and recmod without any reg or dat entries except icon and shortcut?

No, include the ghisler reg key (hkcu-software-ghisler). Set it up however you like it (like w/ a fully loaded hotlist). But don't move the files around w/ the app.dat.

Farmer Ted said:
No, include the ghisler reg key (hkcu-software-ghisler). Set it up however you like it (like w/ a fully loaded hotlist). But don't move the files around w/ the app.dat.
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Huh this isn't working lol could you post the cab you're working with? My cab is acting up (even on fully functional roms)

Farmer Ted said:
Total Commander is easy to cook in. Again, you don't need app.dat lines, except for the shortcut (make sure it points to windows). Just put the .exe and the plugins (registry, wlan, ftp and webdav, if you have it) in windows. Cook in the reg settings, and you're good to go. I would convert the exe to a module as well.
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Hello Farmer Ted - what for is the file that you attached?

It's a plugin for WebDav, which is the new big thing. I have no clue wtf it does.
Get the ghisler reg key from the device, not the cab. That's always the way to do it. Kheb 1.1 is the way to go for making packages. Cab converters miss a lot of stuff.
Edit: here's my package; it's in oem form (for osbuilder), and it looks like there's a second file needed to get webdav to work in the plugins. Edit the hotlist however you want it (it has folders on my sd card, which are useless to anyone else). It doesn't have a shortcut or initflashfiles.txt in it, since I don't use them for my start menu.

To be more specific about TCMD, here is the output I get with OSkitchen cab to ext:
TCMD>Files
And within the files directory:
000cecmd.002
CECMD_~2.001
00000ftp.003
00000LAN.005
registry.004
TcmObex3.007
TcmObex5.006
So what do I do with those files lol
Regards
Smith

Farmer Ted said:
It's a plugin for WebDav, which is the new big thing. I have no clue wtf it does.
Get the ghisler reg key from the device, not the cab. That's always the way to do it. Kheb 1.1 is the way to go for making packages. Cab converters miss a lot of stuff.
Edit: here's my package; it's in oem form (for osbuilder), and it looks like there's a second file needed to get webdav to work in the plugins. Edit the hotlist however you want it (it has folders on my sd card, which are useless to anyone else). It doesn't have a shortcut or initflashfiles.txt in it, since I don't use them for my start menu.
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Thank you for sharing the package.

Farmer Ted said:
It's a plugin for WebDav, which is the new big thing. I have no clue wtf it does.
Get the ghisler reg key from the device, not the cab. That's always the way to do it. Kheb 1.1 is the way to go for making packages. Cab converters miss a lot of stuff.
Edit: here's my package; it's in oem form (for osbuilder), and it looks like there's a second file needed to get webdav to work in the plugins. Edit the hotlist however you want it (it has folders on my sd card, which are useless to anyone else). It doesn't have a shortcut or initflashfiles.txt in it, since I don't use them for my start menu.
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Thanks for your package, much appreciated! This thread has taught me a lot about how ext's work
Do you know what all those strange files I talked of 2 posts up are though? Like, how do I put those all together?
Regards
Smith

smithisize said:
Thanks for your package, much appreciated! This thread has taught me a lot about how ext's work
Do you know what all those strange files I talked of 2 posts up are though? Like, how do I put those all together?
Regards
Smith
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I'm not sure what the technical name is, but those are the raw files from the cab; if you extract the cab with winzip or 7-zip, that's the file names. If you give them the proper extensions (.dll, exe, etc) then you can recover the proper files. It looks like the unpacking didn't work properly.

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I'm not sure what the technical name is, but those are the raw files from the cab; if you extract the cab with winzip or 7-zip, that's the file names. If you give them the proper extensions (.dll, exe, etc) then you can recover the proper files. It looks like the unpacking didn't work properly.
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Ah! You're right thanks a lot lol that's where my confusion was stemming from lol I couldn't figure out what to do with them!
Thank you very much!
Regards
Smith