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All;
I'm trying to find a straight answer on US carrier support for the HD. So far; I've read that there is:
1)No support for the HD in the US
2)Support for GSM only in the US
3)Possible support for 3G depending on your area
4)Working 3G support in some areas
So; what's the deal here? Do we have a "CONFIRMED" working HD in the US? The questions I'd like to have answered in one thread if possible:
1)What carriers are people currently using SUCCESSFULLY with the HD?
1a)What area is that working in?
2)How is the internet speed on it?
2a)If 3G is working, what kind of speed differences are you seeing?
2b)If 3G is working, what area are you in that it works for you?
3)If it is working for you in any form; were custom ROMS needed; or any sort of hack short of plugging in your SIM card?
3a)If needed; links would be great!
4)Any reported and confirmed 'show-stopping' bugs / problems using the HD in the US.
5)Any items or information we need to be aware of when trying to purchase this phone for US use? (Don't buy from EU...don't buy from AUS, avoid certain model versions...etc?)
Answers so far ((so you don't have to go searching for them!))
1) T-Mobile & ATT
1a) Wisconsin -ATT | Chicago - ATT
2) Edge = ok
2a) No - Wisconsin, Chicago
2b)
3) No hacks needed - plug in SIM card, possibly might have to select network from list
3a)
4) Problems sending MMS on AT&T. 99% send then fail.
5)
I'm using T-Mobile in the US.
Didn't have to do ANYTHING special at all to get it running. Stuck in my tmobile sim, it asked which carrier I wanted to use (T-Mobile US or Tuyo or something like that). I selected tmobile and wala.
Don't know about 3G as I do not have a data plan right now (it's $25 / month and I have Wi-Fi 88% of the time).
Have flashed and hard-resetted many times since with no problems.
ONLY PROBLEM: MMS will not work. I have searched all over and made sure that I have all the correct settings. However it will not work no matter what I try. Sending usually makes it to 99% then fails. Sucks.
ismisunderstood said:
All;
I'm trying to find a straight answer on US carrier support for the HD. So far; I've read that there is:
1)No support for the HD in the US
2)Support for GSM only in the US
3)Possible support for 3G depending on your area
4)Working 3G support in some areas
So; what's the deal here? Do we have a "CONFIRMED" working HD in the US? The questions I'd like to have answered in one thread if possible:
1)What carriers are people currently using SUCCESSFULLY with the HD?
1a)What area is that working in?
2)How is the internet speed on it?
2a)If 3G is working, what kind of speed differences are you seeing?
2b)If 3G is working, what area are you in that it works for you?
3)If it is working for you in any form; were custom ROMS needed; or any sort of hack short of plugging in your SIM card?
3a)If needed; links would be great!
4)Any reported and confirmed 'show-stopping' bugs / problems using the HD in the US.
5)Any items or information we need to be aware of when trying to purchase this phone for US use? (Don't buy from EU...don't buy from AUS, avoid certain model versions...etc?)
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The HD will work in the US on either T-Mobile or ATT.
I am using ATT in Wisconsin and can confirm the phone will not pick of 3G.
EDGE internet speeds are pretty good. I wouldn't go streaming youtube, however. Wifi is around in more places than you think...
I'm using the ROM that came on the phone. I popped in my ATT sim card and all the settings were detected and it worked in a matter of 30 seconds.
I am in Chicago area on AT&T and it works fine. No 3G data but edge is fine. I am streaming video using a slingbox and it works ok.
Hardice33 said:
The HD will work in the US on either T-Mobile or ATT.
I am using ATT in Wisconsin and can confirm the phone will not pick of 3G.
EDGE internet speeds are pretty good. I wouldn't go streaming youtube, however. Wifi is around in more places than you think...
I'm using the ROM that came on the phone. I popped in my ATT sim card and all the settings were detected and it worked in a matter of 30 seconds.
It's not the phone that won't pick up 3G but the lack of a network or cell masts transmitting a 3G/HSDPA signal. So people,lets not blame the phone if you subscribe to inadequate networks. 3G has been around for over 10 years. I can't believe americans still need a tutorial.
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Canaan said:
It's not the phone that won't pick up 3G but the lack of a network or cell masts transmitting a 3G/HSDPA signal. So people,lets not blame the phone if you subscribe to inadequate networks. 3G has been around for over 10 years. I can't believe americans still need a tutorial.
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it's both the phone and network's fault, the phone for not having UMTS 850, 1700, or 1900. And the networks for choosing those frequencies over umts 900 and 2100.
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Hardice33 said:
The HD will work in the US on either T-Mobile or ATT.
I am using ATT in Wisconsin and can confirm the phone will not pick of 3G.
EDGE internet speeds are pretty good. I wouldn't go streaming youtube, however. Wifi is around in more places than you think...
I'm using the ROM that came on the phone. I popped in my ATT sim card and all the settings were detected and it worked in a matter of 30 seconds.
It's not the phone that won't pick up 3G but the lack of a network or cell masts transmitting a 3G/HSDPA signal. So people,lets not blame the phone if you subscribe to inadequate networks. 3G has been around for over 10 years. I can't believe americans still need a tutorial.
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Wow, a little full of yourself there? It's not like I climbed towers and decided to put 850 bands in America.
I believe if I made a $750 purchase, I would know whether or not the phone was capable of picking up US 3G bands or not.
But I guess your right, I should move to Europe to take advantage of the "adequate" networks.
There is no need to be a jerk about it.
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I'm using mine on ATT, use mostly wifi which has been good, EDGE is good the few times I've used it (based on what I've heard from people using 3G on other phones, it's not that much better than wifi, but I'm sure that's location dependent). I'm using it in NC and surrounding states, have only sent/received MMS a couple of times but haven't had any problems yet. Didn't have to do anything except insert the SIM and choose ATT. I haven't seen the 3G icon pop up so that means no 3G compatibility where I'm at.
TMobile USA is great
I am an airline pilot and use my HD nationwide and it works splendidly in every city I have been to. EDGE is much, much better than GPRS that I had on my Imate Jasjar (Universal) but I would agree that the only drawback is to streaming YouTube. YouTube on EDGE is functional but it uses the lower quality mode.
I am successfully using MMS on TMo here in the USA so any trouble with it might just be a setting that needs to be tweaked. Having had some trouble with that on my JasJar in the past I just set it up manually and did just that when I got the HD. I didn't even try the default MMS settings, just deleted them and put my own in that I knew worked.
As for 3G, didn't work on my JasJar and not on my HD but for me it turns out to not be a deal breaker at all. Having had four different WM devices over 6 years, the HD is blowing me away. I really love it's speed, screen and size. HTC did a really nice (not great) job with the TouchFlo UI and hope that a few updates will make it great. Now that I installed the new Resco Explorer (GSFinder before) I don't need to use the stylus at all! I like that the most.
For those of you in the USA, give TMobile a try. I don't think you would be unhappy with their service and pricing.
Regards,
Gordo
I'm using iWireless (Owned by Tmobile) in Iowa. No problems getting it to work like all the others here. I don't have a data plan, so haven't tested that out yet. And it's just commonly known that the HD doesn't support US 3G.
It supports 3G, but we cant use it because the antenna is set to receive 2100 and 900.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450670&page=5
jim256 said:
I'm using T-Mobile in the US.
Didn't have to do ANYTHING special at all to get it running. Stuck in my tmobile sim, it asked which carrier I wanted to use (T-Mobile US or Tuyo or something like that). I selected tmobile and wala.
Don't know about 3G as I do not have a data plan right now (it's $25 / month and I have Wi-Fi 88% of the time).
Have flashed and hard-resetted many times since with no problems.
ONLY PROBLEM: MMS will not work. I have searched all over and made sure that I have all the correct settings. However it will not work no matter what I try. Sending usually makes it to 99% then fails. Sucks.
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You may need the data plan for MMS to work properly. I have T-mobile in the US and here is what I did. I signed up for their $9 amonth TZones (now web2go) package. Don't tell them you have a "smartphone" or else you will have to really fight to get it.
It is not great. You have a choice between 100 MB a month or 50 MB and tons of messaging. Since I mostly use WiFi the 50MB was enough.
If they tell you that the $9 plan won't work on their phone, don't fall for it. It will work on any phone.
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You may need the data plan for MMS to work properly. I have T-mobile in the US and here is what I did. I signed up for their $9 amonth TZones (now web2go) package. Don't tell them you have a "smartphone" or else you will have to really fight to get it.
It is not great. You have a choice between 100 MB a month or 50 MB and tons of messaging. Since I mostly use WiFi the 50MB was enough.
If they tell you that the $9 plan won't work on their phone, don't fall for it. It will work on any phone.
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WOW. That is WAY great information to know. So the $9 / month T-Zones is REAL full data / internet browsing? Not some stupid V-Cast like thing?
I have been dying trying to figure out what to do...when I signed up I thought unlimited data was $6 / month (it was some web2go thing for $5.99), then I find out that they discontinued it right after I got my phone and it's now $25...ridiculous. So I have been wondering, should I:
A. Switch to ATT.
B. Have an HD w/ no internet plan.
C. Go back to my vogue on sprint evdo rev a fastest mobile internet in us.
Are you pretty positive about that then? I could sign up for that right now and get 50mb browsing full internet for $9 / month as long as I tell them that it isn't a smartphone?
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AWESOME information for my situation...
Jim.
Uhm... perhaps I am missing something obvious but.
If i go to phone, then select "Options", then select "Band".
I can choose between network type "GSM" or "WCDMA".
Also for GSM/UMTS band I can choose between:
1) UMTS(2100)+GSM(900+1800)
2) UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)
3) UMTS(800+2100)
Does that option have no effect? or what?
Hi all,
I have an HD2, T9193 (Telstra model), running Artemis v9.0 & radio 2.09. It works nicely with AT&T here in the US (including 3G), except for coverage in my house (I know - you're all shocked that AT&T has coverage issues ). Anyway, I decided to buy an AT&T Microcell to improve things here at home, but my HD2 doesn't seem to want to connect to it. Since the HD2 isn't an official AT&T phone I had to use my wife's phone (my old AT&T Fuze/HTC TouchPro) to set up the account. The Fuze seems to be able to connect fine (5 3G bars all over the house). I added my HD2 cell number to the Microcell whitelist and went through all the resets etc. that they recommend for troubleshooting, but nothing seems to work.
The only thing I can think of is that AT&T isn't licensed for 850MHz where I live (west of Boston), so the Microcell is only configured for 1900MHz on 3G, which isn't supported on the T9193. As I understand it AT&T uses the GPS location data they get over the network connection to configure the microcell.
Has anyone else had any experience with this setup?
Thanx.
John
same problem
Ive had my HD2 (T9193) for a few days and have no luck connecting to the 3g microcell, let me know if you haveany luck.
I am in california btw
Ditto
Im in PA and spent over an hour with tech support yesterday trying to get it to work. I'm returning the unit today and exchanging it for a new one per their advice. If the new one doesn't work I'll be giving up.
It wont work
Ok, I got a new one last night and again spent 2 hours with support and I couldn't get it it to work. I don't know why it wont. I'm giving up till someone can post some sort of voodoo to make this work.
Is ATT broadcasting on 3G 850 where you are?
I also just spent a long time on the phone with AT&T enterprise care. They couldn't get my HD2 to work with a micro cell. Their thought was that the micro cell was using 1900 because this market is an 850 market and the micro cell might be configured to avoid causing interference with other users. Of course, this was conjecture. I'm going to test the micro cell at the office tomorrow where I have access to other phones to test with.
If you're able to test with other phones, read up on the various test apps that are out there so you can clearly read what the microcell is broadcasting on. E.g. the fieldtest mode of the iphone, theres an old network details app for winmo, etc.
Att Razor, Att Samsung Eternity both work on Microcell but not my HTC Telstra HD2
IME not registered with ATT could be the culprit but ATT would slap $40 data plan to register it.
A listing exclusive for HD2 for now until work around.
Kokkos
I tested with an old Samsung BlackJack and it saw the microcell immediately when using my SIM, even though AT&T still had my HD2's IMEI registered. I moved the SIM back to the HD2 and cannot associate with the microcell.
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A listing exclusive for HD2 for now until work around.
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What do you mean by this? What is a "listing exclusive for HD2," how does one get it, and does it really allow the T9193 to work with the AT&T microcell?
AT&T responds...
The tier-2 AT&T guy who was helping me last night just called me back. He did some more checking after we spoke and learned that the AT&T Micro Cell is configured to work only with AT&T-sold devices, not unlocked devices used on their network.
He pointed me to page 7 of the User Manual where it says in the Performance Highlights box, "Supports AT&T 3G wireless phones and devices." Apparently, this is to rule out non-AT&T-sold 3G devices.
I suspect that changing the IMEI or ESN or whatever the "unique hardware identifier" is might work, but I'm not willing to screw with my HD2 to find out and discussions about that kind topic are frowned upon on XDA.
My Micro Cell is being returned as it doesn't work for non-AT&T devices.
manicotti said:
I tested with an old Samsung BlackJack and it saw the microcell immediately when using my SIM, even though AT&T still had my HD2's IMEI registered. I moved the SIM back to the HD2 and cannot associate with the microcell.
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Again... if you could load up a field test app that would be great. For the BlackJack, punch in *#0011#, see if you can find the frequency. If not, try browsing to Windows/Test Mode/Test Mode.exe, look for the frequency. Lastly, try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2219019&postcount=2
manicotti said:
The tier-2 AT&T guy who was helping me last night just called me back. He did some more checking after we spoke and learned that the AT&T Micro Cell is configured to work only with AT&T-sold devices, not unlocked devices used on their network.
He pointed me to page 7 of the User Manual where it says in the Performance Highlights box, "Supports AT&T 3G wireless phones and devices." Apparently, this is to rule out non-AT&T-sold 3G devices.
I suspect that changing the IMEI or ESN or whatever the "unique hardware identifier" is might work, but I'm not willing to screw with my HD2 to find out and discussions about that kind topic are frowned upon on XDA.
My Micro Cell is being returned as it doesn't work for non-AT&T devices.
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I'm not convinced. AT&T would put that down to differentiate between their 3g vs. Verizon, et. al.; not to differentiate between devices they sell and devices that are compatible with their 3G. Further, the amount of 3rd-party-but-still-3G-compatible-devices out there are extremely low relative to everyone else, particularly those who buy 3rd party phones and are stuck on EDGE. It just wouldn't make sense to write down that line and have it mean that - it comes across as extremely nit-picky. The only worthwhile carrier that has 3G overlap is Telstra, and I can assure you the number of Telstra 3G phones stateside are rounding errors.
It's possible that it only supports valid ATT IMEIs and there's a footnote in some internal technical document, but it's also possible it's just broadcasting on 1900 3G for all of you . Can you escalate beyond tier-2?
I think the problem is the lack of 1900mhz band on Telstra phones. My Telstra Touch HD will not connect to my microcell, but my unlocked Nokia E71 and N97 mini have no problem. Sad since the microcell gives five bars throughout the entire house!
rastx said:
I think the problem is the lack of 1900mhz band on Telstra phones. My Telstra Touch HD will not connect to my microcell, but my unlocked Nokia E71 and N97 mini have no problem. Sad since the microcell gives five bars throughout the entire house!
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Wow, great post! N97 was never officially released on ATT but yet it works. The microcell is supposed to be able to use both frequencys (850 or 1900), but from this thread, it seems to prefer 1900? Maybe manicotti can get a Tier-3 rep to throw a "force 850" switch.
I also had both an E71-2 and N97 Mini using Microcell today and they worked fine, as long as I didn't move. I'm having problems with both Nokias keeping a signal and I tried the Microcell to see if it would fix it. It didn't. They both dropped calls when I went outside and had a path to the local tower. Iphone worked flawless with and without MCell.
Cheers
AT&T speaks
Our rep got back to me on Thursday. Unfortunately, it looks like no micro cell for my HD2 in the Philadelphia market.
She wrote "Regarding the micro cell, it's not going to work for the device you are using, but it's actually not due to it being a non-AT&T phone. I have been advised that activation of it is not based off IMEI. It is not picking up your device because the MicroCells in our market are purely 1900mhz, they will pick up any device activated with an AT&T number with 1900mhz. So, if you get, have or use a device with that, the MicroCell should be useful,otherwise it will not be."
I have asked if there is a "force 850" setting and why the micro cell uses 1900 here? (My guess is that the microcell always uses the "opposite" frequency of the market it's in. Of course, the first tech guy that I spoke to told me the exact opposite, but he's the one who came up with the IMEI thing and he said it as a certainty rather than as a guess.)
OK, let's get a few things straight.
I have the same issue, a T9193 and a microcell.
When you enter phone numbers online that will use the microcell, AT&T's computer sends the IMEI number associated with that phone number to the microcell.
Since my T9193 IMEI is not on AT&Ts network, the microcell cannot "see" the phone....it is looking for my old Tilt2.
When they entered the IMEI number for my T9193 into AT&Ts system, it told them it is a 2G phone. Now, I took a chance on this as I may not even get 3G from an AT&T tower anymore.
However, the good part is my microcell MIGHT recognize my phone.
I will test later this week (I am traveling) and revert with the results.
Well two things...
1. Thank God for you guys...I was pulling my flipping hair out on this. Same issue as the rest of you and no luck. More than one unlocked phone and a few ATT handsets all work great (including my family and friends). Just my Telstra HD2.
2. How much does this suck? If anybody figures out a way to make the Microcell operate on 850 (assuming the hardware that Cisco ships them is even capable) please reply on this thread.
HD2 T9193 and AT&T micorcell NOT wokring even with proper IMEI number
Good day,
Unfortunately I am in the same boat with my HD2 T9193 not working with the microcell from AT&T.
I called AT&T support and had them update their records to reflect my HD2's IMEI (they had my HTC Athena IMEI on record). Rebooted my phone BUT no joy. My family all have iPhone’s (3GS and 4) and they pick up the M.cell connection immediately.
So I guess the microcell transmits at 1900 not 850 and I am SOL.
Anyone have a solution for us HD2 users, please don't hesitate to share the news.
;(
Thanks,
anyone ever get their HD2 to work?
Hello,
The strangest thing happened to me, I was looking for a HTC Desire Z for a good price and I found a store selling from eBay for 489.99€ (no send fees), that's pretty cheap here in Spain (I've seen it for around 530€ on most sites) but the store was pretty well rated and I'm Kind of impatient . So I bought it on Saturday and got yesterday (Tuesday) that's only 2 week days. I was really happy and all but when i turned it on I noticed something really weird, there was no Sense. I looked at the box and it was a T-Mobile G2 and indeed the phone has a big "G2" written on the back and "T-Mobile" on the front. Then I started getting scared because I red here that T-Mobile's GSM network isn't the same as Europe's you can call but no data connection. But when I turned it on and set up the apn it worked perfectly (I'd say even faster than my nexus). So I said what the hell, rooted it (took me some time lol), and installed Cyanogen (Great work, I'm donating again after christmas ).
So here are my questions: Has this happened to anyone else? Is T-Mo's network the same as Europe's? oh, on another topic, didn't the G2 had 4Gb internal memory, why do I only have 1,2Gb usable memory?
It has four gigs just not for user use.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
what does the other 3gb are for? the nexus has only 512mbs and you still have 192 mbs free
search or go the Q&A section and go about 8 topics down to find the answer.
you're right, sorry, but i'm still curious about t-mobile's and europes gsm networks
it could've been a G2 Housing but the hardware could be Desire Z who knows
Yes, the networks are different. You've definitely got a G2 there, not what was advertised. See this thread about the network thing :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=854971
Some countries have and use the same frequency as T-Mobile USA's 3G freq so I'm guessing you got lucky and it worked.
I remember I couldn't wait until I went to Turkey to use my iPhone 3G with their 3G network on VodaFone TR. Couldn't even use 3G here in America on my iPhone haha.
The US version of the Vision supports 1700 OR 1900 UP, 2100 DOWN. Tmobile (US), Wind (Canada), Mobilicity (Canada), and Videotron (Quebec) are the only networks that I'm aware of using 1700 UP. Most of europe uses 1900 UP, 2100 DOWN.
As for GSM though (2G), its pretty much all compatible.
First of all, New User, First thread
I bought an HTCH Glacier (Mytouch 4G) last week it arrived yesterday, bought the unlock phone and was able to get my SIM working with this phone. Loving it!
I live in Dominican Republic and my Carrier is Orange Dominicana. I typed all the APN settings and my Phone connects, BUT ONLY TO 2G. It just shows a "2G" Icon, really bad news because I was really looking forward on using it as a WIFI Hotspot.
Ive googled and looked everywhere. Tried to put it on WCDMA only, but its goes back automatically to its WCDMA/GSM Auto option. Checked all over the *#*#4636#*#* config tab. Nothing.
Is there something I am missing, does T-Mobile blocks 3G availability for countries which are not US?
Please help me out with this...
Thanks in advance
Dan
danalej said:
First of all, New User, First thread
I bought an HTCH Glacier (Mytouch 4G) last week it arrived yesterday, bought the unlock phone and was able to get my SIM working with this phone. Loving it!
I live in Dominican Republic and my Carrier is Orange Dominicana. I typed all the APN settings and my Phone connects, BUT ONLY TO 2G. It just shows a "2G" Icon, really bad news because I was really looking forward on using it as a WIFI Hotspot.
Ive googled and looked everywhere. Tried to put it on WCDMA only, but its goes back automatically to its WCDMA/GSM Auto option. Checked all over the *#*#4636#*#* config tab. Nothing.
Is there something I am missing, does T-Mobile blocks 3G availability for countries which are not US?
Please help me out with this...
Thanks in advance
Dan
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tmobile has nothing to do with your 3g/4g speed.
You should have checked your carrier's HSPDA's bands before you bought the mytouch. Tmobile's bands HSPDA bands are 1700/2100
Orange HSPDA is i believe 900. It is not compatible with the US mytouch 4g which only runs with 1700/2100. I believe the UK version supports 900 which is used with ORANGE.
Thanks a lot Teo032. Received yesterday and like ponsting it on Auction!!! Too bad...
I thougth it would work as the specs showed in GSMARENA specifies it supports 3G @ 900 MHZ
danalej said:
Thanks a lot Teo032. Received yesterday and like ponsting it on Auction!!! Too bad...
I thougth it would work as the specs showed in GSMARENA specifies it supports 3G @ 900 MHZ
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yeah that sucks, i think there was another post that says the official tmobile site and htc site said that only 1700/2100 was hspa compatible where as 900 band is probably the international version.
Wait. I was just checking a local auction site here in DR. There was an HTC Mytouch 4G being sold (Well it was sold already). I started talking with the seller and he told me his phone's 3G worked with Orange Dominicana...
That got me like: " What!? "
I got a 3G sim card, I used to have a BIS data plan (Which ive tested on HTC sensation, Samsung Galaxys and The Samsung Galaxy Tab. They all worked with the 3g. Also tested and Iphone/smartphone data plan. Nothing
I'll give it a try until friday, testing other configurations...
If not suceeded. What good phones are around that DO SURE work with Orange Dominicana ?
danalej said:
First of all, New User, First thread
I bought an HTCH Glacier (Mytouch 4G) last week it arrived yesterday, bought the unlock phone and was able to get my SIM working with this phone. Loving it!
I live in Dominican Republic and my Carrier is Orange Dominicana. I typed all the APN settings and my Phone connects, BUT ONLY TO 2G. It just shows a "2G" Icon, really bad news because I was really looking forward on using it as a WIFI Hotspot.
Ive googled and looked everywhere. Tried to put it on WCDMA only, but its goes back automatically to its WCDMA/GSM Auto option. Checked all over the *#*#4636#*#* config tab. Nothing.
Is there something I am missing, does T-Mobile blocks 3G availability for countries which are not US?
Please help me out with this...
Thanks in advance
Dan
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Dude we are having the exact same problem, i just threw it away to a friend who likes to do all kinda cool thing to cell phone to see if he could brick it or overclock the band which i don't think he will do
@ SNAKEEYEPTY. Are you from Dominican Republic?
It seems we are missing some configuration.... I'll go next sat to an Orange Office and see what they can do. I hadnt gone cuz I know customer service here sucks... I just dont trust those guys... but I gotta give it a try...
If your friend find something out, let me know... I am kinda loving this phone... but if this feature cant be enabled... Goodbye to it.
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@ SNAKEEYEPTY. Are you from Dominican Republic?
It seems we are missing some configuration.... I'll go next sat to an Orange Office and see what they can do. I hadnt gone cuz I know customer service here sucks... I just dont trust those guys... but I gotta give it a try...
If your friend find something out, let me know... I am kinda loving this phone... but if this feature cant be enabled... Goodbye to it.
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naaaa no updates..
we need someone to unlock, underclock or overclock the antenna to a 850mhz/900mhz and the rest of the bands, it is possible, but stupidly hard to accomplish...
No, it's not possible. Analog and digital radio filters, DSP and other parts are VERY different from your average computer (actually, they're so different that it's like saying sky is different from ground). It's not "overclock" or "underclock", and has nothing to do with "clock". Band isn't clock rate. And even the physical antenna properties might need to be changed for band changes.
If I remember right, all the MSM8255-based phones are dual band, most running 900/2100. MT4G runs 1700/2100 instead. If my assumption is correct and the change isn't physical on the board in one of the external components, but only SW - then you might be able to make it work with 900 MHz band instead of 1700. If not - then there's no chance.
So, I would be able to make it work... By far, no luck
Guys @ customer service told me I needed another data plan, specially for smarthphones... I tried that already with a friends SIM. No luck.
I hadnt sold it cuz Im 80% sure it works on 900 mhz. GSM arena says it, and most of T-Mobile phones supports this freq.
Obviously, GSM Arena was proven wrong.
AT&T bought Tmobil, so what does this mean for those with tmobil exclusive band like us?? are att will keep using 1700/2100 for the next 10 years or should we send them our cellphone for a replacement??? what should we do??? just wondering....
I'm pretty sure the at&t/T-Mobile merger didn't go through. It was ruled 'not in the public interest', though they still had the option to go to trial. Last I read, at&t was withdrawing ...
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danalej said:
So, I would be able to make it work... By far, no luck
Guys @ customer service told me I needed another data plan, specially for smarthphones... I tried that already with a friends SIM. No luck.
I hadnt sold it cuz Im 80% sure it works on 900 mhz. GSM arena says it, and most of T-Mobile phones supports this freq.
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Hi everyone, does anyone know if this issue was resolved? I live in Lima, Peru and have the same problem with HTC Mytouch 4G. Did someone find a way to make it work with 900 mhz?
Thanks!
Hmm, I'll have to check this out when I fly back down for Christmas break, lmao. I know when I bring down T-Mobile phones they all work on Orange (my prefered carrier and OPs carrier). No reason why 3G or HSPA+ shouldn't work. I'd probably have to check around the large cities because outside those large cities such as San Cristobal which is close to Santo Domingo, you'd fall back on GPRS/EDGE.
P.S.- If I check this out, It would be around Valverde Mao in the north, close to Santiago and Puerto Plata, but if I get the chance to visit my cousins in San Cristobal, I'll check down there too, lmao.
Hey guys. Was just curious if anybody has information on whether the S4 will have the LTE sim card like the HTC one or will it have an embedded LTE card like the note 2? I ask because of my work, I live in NY for one month, and then in the caribbean for one month, and back and forth and back and forth. My current phone is the Photon 4G which has the international sim card slot in it, so its easy with that phone. Any help would be appreciated.
It has a sim card right next to the sd card slot behind the phone. Sim is removable as well, I heard rumors that sprint was going to weld it to the mothboard. But it pops in and out really easy.
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Hey guys. Was just curious if anybody has information on whether the S4 will have the LTE sim card like the HTC one or will it have an embedded LTE card like the note 2? I ask because of my work, I live in NY for one month, and then in the caribbean for one month, and back and forth and back and forth. My current phone is the Photon 4G which has the international sim card slot in it, so its easy with that phone. Any help would be appreciated.
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Yes it does have a removable SIM. See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249385
May I ask which carrier do you use your Photon with in the Caribbean and on which Island? I ask this because the bands the One and S4 support are not exactly the same ones as the Photon does.
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Yes it does have a removable SIM. See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249385
May I ask which carrier do you use your Photon with in the Caribbean and on which Island? I ask this because the bands the One and S4 support are not exactly the same ones as the Photon does.
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Hey man, thank you for the reply.
I go to medical school on the island of Antigua, and currently have my Sprint/Motorola photon 4G with me and have had it since the beginning. I use the cell phone provider called LIME (or Cable and Wireless- depending on who talks about it, and it is GSM). LIME operates on 850 MHz band primarily and 1800 MHz in certain areas on the island, Will the sprint galaxy S4 work fine here?
There is another provider called DIGICEL which utilizes the 900 MHz band.
I am willing to bet that one of the devs here will find a way to unlock it for use in the states. Just a matter of time.
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Hey man, thank you for the reply.
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Will the sprint galaxy S4 work fine here?
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That depends... Do those providers support 3G (UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA) or are they 2G only?
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That depends... Do those providers support 3G (UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA) or are they 2G only?
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I would say its more of a 2G speed. But they advertise it as 3G
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I would say its more of a 2G speed. But they advertise it as 3G
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The answer then is, maybe...
For some completely inexplicable reason, it appears that sprint has intentionally disabled the UMTS 850 MHz band on the S4 (and apparently HTC One too) for use worldwide (i.e., not just in the US as they normally do). This band is available in the a photon 4G though. So, if those carriers have deployed UMTS 850 (as many GSM 850 carriers across the world have) then you could very well have a problem, particularly with data speeds. The phone does not have support (disabled or otherwise) for UMTS 900 but neither did the Photon, plus, UMTS 900 tends to be a bit less deployed compared to UMTS 850 anyway. As I said in my the linked thread, I plan on starting a thread on this issue specifically at some point soon.
For 2G GSM the phone is fine though as it is quadband (like the Photon is). We're talking some painfully slow data speeds on 2G however. For 3G GSM, the phone does support UMTS 1900 and 2100.
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The answer then is, maybe...
For some completely inexplicable reason, it appears that sprint has intentionally disabled the UMTS 850 MHz band on the S4 (and apparently HTC One too) for use worldwide (i.e., not just in the US as they normally do). This band is available in the a photon 4G though. So, if those carriers have deployed UMTS 850 (as many GSM 850 carriers across the world have) then you could very well have a problem, particularly with data speeds. The phone does not have support (disabled or otherwise) for UMTS 900 but neither did the Photon, plus, UMTS 900 tends to be a bit less deployed compared to UMTS 850 anyway. As I said in my the linked thread, I plan on starting a thread on this issue specifically at some point soon.
For 2G GSM the phone is fine though as it is quadband (like the Photon is). We're talking some painfully slow data speeds on 2G however. For 3G GSM, the phone does support UMTS 1900 and 2100.
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Is there anyway for me to determine with my photon what frequency the data is coming in on?
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Is there anyway for me to determine with my photon what frequency the data is coming in on?
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Yeah, that's a problem because I believe Sprint disabled the field test menu (##778#) on the Photon. Also, I don't think the Android SDK provides that info to apps so you couldn't install the an app that will tell you that. You could install one of the many mobile network monitor apps on the play store which I would think at least would tell you if you are on GSM or UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA. If you are on UMTS on the Photon there then I'd say there's a good chance you're on 850. That is what LIME's "4G" service in the Bahamas runs on for example.
Anyhoo,let us know what you find out.
EDIT: I think the commonly used ookla "Speed Test" app will also tell you if you are on GSM or UMTS under location:network if you click on one of the test results in history. That migh be you best way of telling. You still won't be able to tell which frequency you're on unfortunately.
Called Lime...and the best they had for me was that they operate on GSM 850/1800/1900 MHz and GPRS data. Not sure if that helps. but I couldnt get any of the programs to function to show if the photon is GSM or UTMS
So I searched a bit for information and found that
LIME - GPRS,GSM - 2G:850 MHz.
According to here http://m2msupport.net/m2msupport/lime-antigua-and-barbuda-m2m-modules-certification-sim-data-plans/
So I am assuming that the S4 will work just like the photon, or am I wrong?
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Called Lime...and the best they had for me was that they operate on GSM 850/1800/1900 MHz and GPRS data. Not sure if that helps. but I couldnt get any of the programs to function to show if the photon is GSM or UTMS
So I searched a bit for information and found that
LIME - GPRS,GSM - 2G:850 MHz.
According to here http://m2msupport.net/m2msupport/lime-antigua-and-barbuda-m2m-modules-certification-sim-data-plans/
So I am assuming that the S4 will work just like the photon, or am I wrong?
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Have you tried running Ookla speed test on their network with the Photon? It should tell you what network they are using in the results history if you click on the result of the test as per my previous message.
If they are truly just plain GSM 2G like what the above indicates then the S4 should be fine.
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Have you tried running Ookla speed test on their network with the Photon? It should tell you what network they are using in the results history if you click on the result of the test as per my previous message.
If they are truly just plain GSM 2G like what the above indicates then the S4 should be fine.
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Sorry I forgot to mention that. Tried Speed Test / Ookla and all it says in the results history is EDGE, nothing else.
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Sorry I forgot to mention that. Tried Speed Test / Ookla and all it says in the results history is EDGE, nothing else.
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If it says EDGE then you will be just fine with the S4.
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Oh, and I forgot to mention also, you will probably also need to get it unlocked. Unlike the photon, I don't think th S4 comes unlocked out of the box.
I think the info in this thread is inaccurate. The sprint s4 clearly supports 900 and I called and asked a sprint rep if it has a removeable sim and she said yes.
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If it says EDGE then you will be just fine with the S4.
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Oh, and I forgot to mention also, you will probably also need to get it unlocked. Unlike the photon, I don't think th S4 comes unlocked out of the box.
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Thank you greatly myphone12345. For it to be unlocked what has to be done? I read in another thread that I have to call sprint and they will do that for me. Ive been with sprint now for 10 years, so i doubt they would make me wait 90 days.
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I think the info in this thread is inaccurate. The sprint s4 clearly supports 900 and I called and asked a sprint rep if it has a removeable sim and she said yes.
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GSM 900 (GSM 2G) yes, but not UMTS 900 (GSM 3G, sometimes called "4G" by companies like T-Mobile USA). UMTS-1900 and 2100 are the only international 3G bands supported by the Sprint variant. That is contrary to most US devices that contain international support (including the Motorola Photon 4G), which usually tend to support at least a third 3G band, usually UMTS-850. It's the disabling of UMTS-850 on the S4 (leaving it with only two "high" 3G bands) that's the problem. UMTS-850 is widely deployed across the Americas, plus several other places around the world.
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Thank you greatly myphone12345. For it to be unlocked what has to be done? I read in another thread that I have to call sprint and they will do that for me. Ive been with sprint now for 10 years, so i doubt they would make me wait 90 days.
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Yes, you need to call Sprint. This inconsistency with the 90 days is strange. Seems like different CSRs apply the rule to how long you've owned the phone and some to how long your account has been open in good standing. In any case, even if they make you wait, you can always just keep using the Photon overseas and S4 in the 'States until they unlock the S4.
Anyway, Good luck with your studies! Can't think of a sweeter place to do it in.
Hello, guys.
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