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is it possible to switch to another custom recovery after I already got clockworks?
I tried unrevoked but its stuck in the reboot (I believe its trying to root my aria again)
not sure what youre trying to do.... i believe Clockwork is the only Recovery for rooted phones. if you want to flash a custom ROM, well that is something else altogether. please be specific as to what you want to flash to the phone. include a link to the flash too
I was trying to flash psfreedom recovery rom from here
http://psfreedom.com/wiki/HTC_Aria
I believe the method on that website was for unrooted arias without clockworks
zyo said:
is it possible to switch to another custom recovery after I already got clockworks?
I tried unrevoked but its stuck in the reboot (I believe its trying to root my aria again)
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To flash a different custom recovery on your Aria, you need to rename the zip file LIBEIMG.ZIP on the SD card and boot in HBOOT (Power on the phone by holding down VOL DOWN and the Power Button). When it boots to the HBOOT screen you should see text stating that it found LIBEIMG.ZIP and is installing it.
awesome. now before I go ahead, is there any clockworkx recovery image I can revert back to?
zyo said:
awesome. now before I go ahead, is there any clockworkx recovery image I can revert back to?
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I'm curious, what recovery are you talking about?
thanks for including the link. the instructions are clear.... Root IS required, Clockwork recovery is recommended, the Freedom Aria flash appears to be a custom ROM.
once the phone is Rooted, boot into Recovery, make a Nandroid backup, and flash downloaded zip file from SD card.
if you need help Rooting, there is all sorts of good methods available on this site. I use the Unrevoked method myself, but it works best on Linux or Mac OS
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thanks for including the link. the instructions are clear.... Root IS required, Clockwork recovery is recommended, the Freedom Aria flash appears to be a custom ROM.
once the phone is Rooted, boot into Recovery, make a Nandroid backup, and flash downloaded zip file from SD card.
if you need help Rooting, there is all sorts of good methods available on this site. I use the Unrevoked method myself, but it works best on Linux or Mac OS
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hmm I think you are looking at the old method which is a custom rom
The new one is a custom recovery which brings me to the question as I dont think you can flash a custom recovery in the clockwork custom recovery.
its possible im looking at the wrong thing, but far as i can tell it states "Recovery Custom ROM" which is totally different from Custom Recovery ROM
From link posted above:
"Update can be installed in recovery mode in Psfreedom settings menu via Update (local) or Update (net) if you have configured your wifi connection. Put the file on your SDCARD and install it.
Download Recovery custom rom : http://alephzain.klutsh.com/aria-recovery.tgz "
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To flash a different custom recovery on your Aria, you need to rename the zip file LIBEIMG.ZIP on the SD card and boot in HBOOT (Power on the phone by holding down VOL DOWN and the Power Button). When it boots to the HBOOT screen you should see text stating that it found LIBEIMG.ZIP and is installing it.
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I have similar questions. I was trying to update my version of clockwork also using unrevoked again, but couldn't get it to work. I guess my questions are:
1. Is there any benefit in updating to a newer version of clockwork? My current version is 2.0.x.x and I believe the latest one is 2.5.0.4.
2. Will this same method work to do so? Can I rename the latest clockwork .zip file like this and get it updated?
I thought using the flash clockwork option in ROM Manager would do it, but it doesn't. If I reboot from ROM Manager it goes to the newer version, but if I reboot otherwise it goes to my original. The couple times I've used it, there appears to be maybe some different features/options in the newer one and I feel like I might be missing out on something!
What's the difference with this recovery?
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zedbra said:
its possible im looking at the wrong thing, but far as i can tell it states "Recovery Custom ROM" which is totally different from Custom Recovery ROM
From link posted above:
"Update can be installed in recovery mode in Psfreedom settings menu via Update (local) or Update (net) if you have configured your wifi connection. Put the file on your SDCARD and install it.
Download Recovery custom rom : http://alephzain.klutsh.com/aria-recovery.tgz "
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These are probably two different things. once you got the recovery rom flashed you can upgrade it in recovery mode (hence its different from original clockwork recovery)
Ok bro, I didn't see much info about it so I'm gonna take your word for it.
@brswattt, far as I can tell this is " basically" used for jailbreaking the ps3.
@armyengineer;
you can use unrEVOked to flash the new recovery. if youre a Windows user, download the unrEVOked tool and run the .exe as Administrator. also make sure there are no conflicting s/w on the PC such as HTC Sync and you have all the drivers installed(HBoot, ADB drivers, etc.)
for more info about the PSFreedom Recovery, check out THIS Thread HERE
unrevoked keeps giving me
couldnt find misc
error, is there any other way to flash a recovery?
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@armyengineer;
you can use unrEVOked to flash the new recovery. if youre a Windows user, download the unrEVOked tool and run the .exe as Administrator. also make sure there are no conflicting s/w on the PC such as HTC Sync and you have all the drivers installed(HBoot, ADB drivers, etc.)
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This still isn't working for me. Everything appears to go well at the start, then I get:
Waiting for root...(safe to restart if this doesn't work)
At which point the only way I can restart is to pull my battery. After doing so, it reboots and I get:
This was a triumph
It is not, however, any such thing. After another minute I get this:
Internal error: couldn't find misc.
So I've still got my original version of clockwork, 2.0.1.3, despite the fact that ROM Manager is telling me I have 2.5.0.1. I'm obviously missing something here.
BTW, if it matters I'm running CM 6.1.0
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I have similar questions. I was trying to update my version of clockwork also using unrevoked again, but couldn't get it to work. I guess my questions are:
1. Is there any benefit in updating to a newer version of clockwork? My current version is 2.0.x.x and I believe the latest one is 2.5.0.4.
2. Will this same method work to do so? Can I rename the latest clockwork .zip file like this and get it updated?
I thought using the flash clockwork option in ROM Manager would do it, but it doesn't. If I reboot from ROM Manager it goes to the newer version, but if I reboot otherwise it goes to my original. The couple times I've used it, there appears to be maybe some different features/options in the newer one and I feel like I might be missing out on something!
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Although there is a ClockworkMod 2.5.0.4 version, I don't think it is for the Aria. According to ClockworkMod ROM Manager, 2.5.0.1 is the most current one for the Aria so I am believing what ROM Manager is telling me since it is written by the same the vendor.
I have tried CM 6.1.0
original HTC Aria 2.1 International Rom
and FR001 RC1
all no go. I think it has something to do with the phone already been rooted and has clockworks installed which makes unrevoked unhappy
zyo said:
I have tried CM 6.1.0
original HTC Aria 2.1 International Rom
and FR001 RC1
all no go. I think it has something to do with the phone already been rooted and has clockworks installed which makes unrevoked unhappy
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OK, let's start from the beginning. You asked about installing an alternate recovery (PSFreedom recovery), but apparently it has its own installation procedure that needs to be run on an unrooted Aria.
What you need is to find just the PSFreedom recovery and copy it to your SD called in a file called LIBEIMG.ZIP and that is how you need to install it on a root phone that has ClockworkMod. Perhaps you need to go back to the PSFreedom thread and ask if a LIBEIMG.ZIP can be produced that can be flashed from HBOOT to replace ClockworkMod.
Looks like everything you need is located in the PSFreedom wiki:
http://psfreedom.com/wiki/HTC_Aria
I got a recovery.bin which is suppose to be used with unrevoked.
are you talking about the same one if I just compress it into a zip file?
[GUIDE] Root & recovery WITHOUT oem unlock & wipe (2.3.2 & older, plus now 2.3)
UPDATE #2 - Fitchman has reported successful root and rom flash without unlocking the bootloader by using Ginger Break. Full details in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13236136&postcount=135
UPDATE - IMPORTANT: This method does not work with Android 2.3.3. Search the forum or this post in this thread for a way to update to 2.3.3 and root without unlocking if you haven't updated yet.
Alternatively, use this method on 2.3.2 and lower, then use titanium to back up everything, store it on your laptop (along with all your sdcard's data), then do the oem unlock step first and then continue from there with the rest of the guide.
Not my original idea, but a consolidation of a discussion between inakipaz and shrivelfig and myself in another thread and being posted here for easier finding by future root-seekers.
Shrivelfig's tested the method to re-root a previously rooted pone with a re-locked bootloader, and inakipaz has done it on a phone that's never had the bootloader unlocked.
The advantage here is that those who chose not to root when they first got the phone won't lose any app data or sdcard data like the methods that have you unlock the bootloader do. The disadvantage is your bootloader remains locked, which may prevent you flashing certain things in the future.
edit: see ravidavi's posts below; he's shown you can even flash custom roms that are clockwork compatible while having a locked bootloader with this method.
Download these two files:
clockwork recovery v3.0.0.5 or clockwork recovery v3.0.0.5 mirror if above not working
su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip
Koush's blog for the latest clockwork updates (find Nexus S in the list).
Also, if you don't already have the necessary android sdk and drivers on your computer, get them from here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html and install them. Some Windows users report better luck just installing pdanet. There's a decent guide for Windows users on installing the sdk here.
Place the recovery file on your laptop where you can access it while using the sdk fastboot commands.
Place the su zip one in the top level folder of your sdcard.
Put your phone in fastboot mode (power off, then hold volume up and power key at the same time until the phone boots to a white screen).
Use fastboot to boot the phone into the clockwork recovery:
Code:
fastboot boot recovery-clockwork-3.0.0.5-crespo.img
If you're not sure how to get fastboot working on your computer, follow the excellent instructions that Allgamer gives in this GUIDE, but don't do the oem unlock command!
Once in clockwork, flash the su file to the phone by following these steps below.
To navigate in the clockwork recovery, you use the volume keys to scroll up/down through the menus, and the on/off button to select what's highlighted.
(note: some report success without these first 3 steps, others don't get a succesful root without, I recommend doing them)
select mounts and storage.
select mount /system
select go back
select install ZIP from sdcard
select choose zip from sdcard
select su-version#-signed.zip file you downloaded earlier
select yes - install su-version#-signed.zip
confirm it says "Install from sdcard complete"
select go back
select reboot
After the phone reboots, you should be rooted, with a locked bootloader, and none of your data erased.
That said, never hurts to have a backup of your precious data on the sdcard that you can copy over to the computer.
This method doesn't install busybox, so go to the Market and download/install busybox directly, or get Titanium Backup and check it's "problems?" button and let it install busybox for you. There's also an app called root checker that supposedly verifies you have a working root on your phone.
Once you have a successful root installed, I'd suggest getting back into clockwork recovery and running a nandroid back up from clockwork's backs and restore menu. Then copy that file from your sdcard (in the /clockwork/backups folder) to your laptop for safe-keeping and an easy full system restore to a known working config.
Usual disclaimers about I'm not responsible for damage to your phone or loss of data apply. Use any rooting method at your own risk.
Thanks and all the real credit go to inakipaz, shrivelfig and allgamer, and of course to koush, and ChainsDD for the superuser apk.
Worked perfectly. I used fastboot from my Mac (outlined in the stickied Mac Root thread). Root checker verifies that I have root.
And by the way, my phone and I are both root/ROM cherry. First android phone, first time rooter. Will work up the guts to flash a ROM soon, but of course there's no chance of doing THAT without unlocking the bootloader.
Thanks to all involved in this!
yeah! good work!
Srsly. Awsom.
Someone sticky this....
Question: When you do the fastboot boot command, does that overwrite the stock recovery with Clockwork? Or is it just booting into the recovery img without actually flashing it?
I would think this method also gives you a way to back up before unlocking the bootloader.
1) fastboot boot into Clockwork as described here
2) Full nandroid backup from Clockwork
3) Mount "SD" from Clockwork over USB, copy everything to computer (since it wipes everything)
4) Go back and unlock the bootloader as usual, resulting in a full wipe
5) Flash Clockwork Recovery again through whichever method
6) Mount "SD" from Clockwork over USB, copy the backup back to phone
7) Restore nandroid
And now you've unlocked the bootloader without amnesia =)
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And by the way, my phone and I are both root/ROM cherry. First android phone, first time rooter. Will work up the guts to flash a ROM soon, but of course there's no chance of doing THAT without unlocking the bootloader.
Thanks to all involved in this!
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Are you sure you need to unlock the bootloader to flash a ROM? Now that you have root, try installing ROM Manager from the Market, and see if it lets you flash custom recovery with bootloader still locked. If so, then yes you can install a ROM!
Also, the fact that you're able to boot into Clockwork using "fastboot boot" - that also means you can install a ROM .zip file right from there.
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Question: When you do the fastboot boot command, does that overwrite the stock recovery with Clockwork? Or is it just booting into the recovery img without actually flashing it?
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"fastboot boot" only launches the recovery no unlock needed. "fastboot flash" flash the recovery
cmstlist said:
Are you sure you need to unlock the bootloader to flash a ROM? Now that you have root, try installing ROM Manager from the Market, and see if it lets you flash custom recovery with bootloader still locked. If so, then yes you can install a ROM!.
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It worked! Here's the process I used, starting from a completely unmodded Nexus S.
1: Use the method detailed here to gain root access without unlocking the bootloader.
2: Using a root-enabled file explorer (I used Super Manager), rename install-recovery.sh (in /etc) to install-recovery.sh.old . You'll need to remount as r/w to do this. NOTE: You don't *have* to do this step, but if you don't, then you can only use clockwork once after which it will be erased on reboot.
3: Using ROM Manager, install Clockwork Recovery.
4: Pleasure yourself, because your bootloader is still locked and nothing was erased.
I have yet to try actually flashing a custom ROM. Does this mean that it can also be done without unlocking bootloader?
Well damn, whaddaya know. I just flashed MoDaCo r10 without unlocking the bootloader, and without losing any personal data on /sdcard.
I figure someone at XDA should like this.
Pretty much followed distortedloop's advice. Starting from a fully stock Nexus S with Android 2.3.2 (GRH78C):
* Root using the method on this thread.
* Rename install-recovery.su to install-recovery-old.su. (in /bin)
* Install Clockwork Recovery from ROM Manager.
* Download whatever ROM you want (compatible with Clockwork), rename to update.zip, and copy to sdcard.
* Reboot into Clockwork.
* Wipe cache, reset to factory (IF REQUIRED BY NEW ROM). This was my first install of MoDaCo, and that requires it. This step does NOT erase your personal files on sdcard, just all android-related files.
* Install update.zip from Clockwork.
* Continue self-pleasuring ... you now have a custom rom without touching your bootloader or wiping your personal sdcard data.
Maybe it's just because I'm a noob here, but it seems to me that this is a BIG deal. All root/ROM installation methods that I've seen so far have required an unlocked bootloader. This seems to be the first time a Nexus S has been unlocked and custom-ROM'd without unlocking the bootloader and wiping the entire /sdcard.
Ravi
Yeah, it's pretty clear that the unlock the bootloader step isn't necessary for most of what we want to do. Just a habit from earlier devices, perhaps?
What's really odd is now we have to wonder what's the purpose of the oem unlock erasing your sdcard? Speculation was that it was a security feature to keep people from accessing your data if they stole your phone; they couldn't flash something on the phone to get access, but clearly they can. Fastboot into a custom recovery and you own the phone.
Perhaps this is a security hole Google will try to fix some day?
At any rate, I wish we'd discovered this sooner, it would have saved several people some grief in having to lose saved games (Angry Birds!) when they finally decided to root.
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Yeah, it's pretty clear that the unlock the bootloader step isn't necessary for most of what we want to do. Just a habit from earlier devices, perhaps?
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At any rate, I wish we'd discovered this sooner, it would have saved several people some grief in having to lose saved games (Angry Birds!) when they finally decided to root.
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You say "for most of what we want to do." Could you think of a case where you would need to unlock it now? It's now shown to be unnecessary for rooting and installing custom recovery/ROM.
Is there any way to get the word out? This thread isn't stickied, and all the stickied threads on rooting & custom ROMs currently assert that you have to unlock the bootloader.
Ravi
ravidavi said:
You say "for most of what we want to do." Could you think of a case where you would need to unlock it now? It's now shown to be unnecessary for rooting and installing custom recovery/ROM.
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I'm thinking that something like Superboot might need to have the bootloader unlocked, since it replaces the boot image, right? But I'm not sure.
ravidavi said:
Is there any way to get the word out? This thread isn't stickied, and all the stickied threads on rooting & custom ROMs currently assert that you have to unlock the bootloader.
Ravi
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There's only a page and a half of posts in the development section right now, so it's not likely to disappear any time soon, but you could ask a mod (theimpaler747 is ours) via PM to sticky it. I thought about asking myself, but seemed a bit tacky to ask for my own thread.
Meanwhile, I'd been linking people to various posts I'd made in other threads suggesting this might work, but once inakipaz and shrivelfig confirmed it, I'm just now pointing people here. I just hope people see this before wiping their phones unnecessarily.
Really, the other guides should just be updated to skip the oem unlock step. That's really the only different thing we're doing here.
i'm just waiting for more people "newbies" to confirm this actually works for them, before making it a sticky
In theory if you really really screw up your phone, you might need fastboot flash in order to recover it. But if fastboot also lets you boot into an img recovery... then you still have a recovery route that doesn't require unlocking.
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I know it's a noob question and all since all you're doing is flashing a custom recovery but will you still be able to get OTA updates after doing this as well?
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I know it's a noob question and all since all you're doing is flashing a custom recovery but will you still be able to get OTA updates after doing this as well?
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yes because you still have the original recovery installed
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Perhaps this is a security hole Google will try to fix some day?
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This would be my guess.
But how? Is it possible to plug this with just a software update? Time will show, I guess.
This (security hole) should also make it possible to do perfect out-of-the-box OS backups. And restores. The problem is that nobody's going to do a backup without playing with their shiny new toy first.
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This would be my guess.
But how? Is it possible to plug this with just a software update? Time will show, I guess.
This (security hole) should also make it possible to do perfect out-of-the-box OS backups. And restores. The problem is that nobody's going to do a backup without playing with their shiny new toy first.
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I can confirm that the Nexus One does not allow this "fastboot boot" on a locked bootloader. Maybe this was just an oversight?
It is entirely possible to plug this with a software update: Samsung/Google could issue a signed update that includes a bootloader upgrade. This has been done many times by HTC for example.
I can confirm that this method works, without unlocking the BL or erasing the SD part.
This is pretty cool. I wish I new about this before I unlocked the bootloader days after I received my phone. I too wonder if this was intentional or an oversite. Google did want this phone to be for developers, but like other's said, this is also a bit of a security hole. The wiping of the sd card on unlock would protect the person if the phone was stolen, like if there was confidential corporate stuff on there. Even if you password protect your phone, someone could fastboot clockwork, mount the sd card and retrieve all the information that was on there.
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It is entirely possible to plug this with a software update: Samsung/Google could issue a signed update that includes a bootloader upgrade. This has been done many times by HTC for example.
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It's also been done by Samsung with some versions of the Galaxy S line (some of the "leaked" roms, and even one official kies push (IIRC) changed the bootloader, causing people the ability to use 3 button mode for Odin access, and causing others to lose it.
Do I have to install cwmtouch also if all I want to add is kinfauns fff1.3 bootloader, to change the logo and keep TWRP?. I tried installing just kinfauns fff1.3 bootloader, but can not gain SU.
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Do I have to install cwmtouch also if all I want to add is kinfauns fff1.3 bootloader, to change the logo and keep TWRP?. I tried installing just kinfauns fff1.3 bootloader, but can not gain SU.
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would try latest kfu 0.9.4 - point install latest firefirefire
hope this is 1.3 ...
palmheel said:
Do I have to install cwmtouch also if all I want to add is kinfauns fff1.3 bootloader, to change the logo and keep TWRP?. I tried installing just kinfauns fff1.3 bootloader, but can not gain SU.
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You can mix and match whatever bootloader/recovery combination you want. They are on separate partitions, so flashing one does not affect the other.
The only caveat is that you must have TWRP installed before changing the bootloader because the distribution image for TWRP is a boot image that actually boots up and flashes both the recovery and bootloader partitions on its own. That boot image contains version 1.0 of FFF, so you must then overwrite it with whatever bootloader you want.
As a side note, the install process for TWRP is unintuitive and may be confusing for new users to have to use the "fastboot boot" instead of the "fastboot flash recovery" command. I've gone back and forth with CWMR and TWRP several times and it's annoying to have to flash the bootloader over and over again in the process. To get around that, I've extracted just the recovery image from the TWRP distribution and have been using that image instead. I've thought about posting it somewhere, but I didn't want to piss off the developers. Maybe if there's some demand for it, I'll just upload it somewhere to see if anybody comes screaming at me... or maybe just write a how-to for those interested in extracting it for themselves.
I've packaged it in my new method, I just need time to sit down n rewrite the install directions and update my post. I've also compiled a blue cwm of sbloods version 1.1 which will also be in the updated method.
but yup, what kinfaun said lol
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Ok. Now, for the the dumb question of the day. I do have TWRP installed, I tried using the instructions on the [gscript][march11]install cwm recovery+bootloader of your choice (no fastboot) thread, but keep getting error with SU.
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Ok. Now, for the the dumb question of the day. I do have TWRP installed, I tried using the instructions on the [gscript][march11]install cwm recovery+bootloader of your choice (no fastboot) thread, but keep getting error with SU.
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You might want to wait a day or two for everyone to finish banging away at the 6.3 update. I got one of the $139 refurbs and it came today. Trying to root it, I'm running into SU/permission issues too. Something changed but everyone just don't know what yet. From what I can tell, this is fairly standard every time Amazon releases an update.
Got it installed. Thanks to all, for all the info. Learning, all this is new to me.
Quick question for the guru's... I just realized that I can't get into recovery since doing the OTA ICS upgrade and rooting. I have both Acer Recovery Installer and ROM Manager, so I'm guessing I'll be fine using either to install a new recovery, but was curious if doing so would impact being able to get future OTA upgrades or not? I've done custom ROMs in the past, but I'm sticking with the stock OTA and rooting them at the moment and just wanted to double-check that a new recovery (or installing clockwork recovery) won't impact future upgrades.
Thanks for any advise!
JM
OK, I gave it a couple weeks - so I've got to give it a <bump> at this point.
Any advise?
Thanks!
JackMetal said:
OK, I gave it a couple weeks - so I've got to give it a <bump> at this point.
Any advise?
Thanks!
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I will assume you have stock bootloader? (the one that came with the OTA)
First off, don't use ROM Manager. It's for phones. Although it runs on tablets, you run a high risk of bricking your device if you use it.
Secondly, you have to be rooted before installing CWM. The most important is deleting the "boot-recovery" file located in the /system directory. Otherwise, whenever you boot your tab, the CWM will get overwritten. Instructions for this can be found in Civato's bootloader guide in the Dev section. Pretty easy to find.
There are also some handy apps, like After OTA for example. Like AcerRecovery, you should be able to install a CWM on your tab. I would use EZTerry's Public Recovery or Thor ver 1.7.3 CWM.
As far as future OTA, it will not effect the ability to get one provided you are running a stock rom. The only thing, when taking an OTA, you will lose root and recovery. And, there always is, as with any OTA, a risk the OTA will fail.
MD
MD, Thank You very much for the advice. While sitting in the airport with delays yet again, I finally had time to check the forum. Yes, I still have the stock boot loader. I am very glad you mentioned NOT using ROM Manager, as that was the method I was leaning towards using.
I'll take a look at Civato's guide this weekend (if my flight ever leaves and I can make it home).
Thanks again for the advice!
Moscow Desire said:
I will assume you have stock bootloader? (the one that came with the OTA)
First off, don't use ROM Manager. It's for phones. Although it runs on tablets, you run a high risk of bricking your device if you use it.
Secondly, you have to be rooted before installing CWM. The most important is deleting the "boot-recovery" file located in the /system directory. Otherwise, whenever you boot your tab, the CWM will get overwritten. Instructions for this can be found in Civato's bootloader guide in the Dev section. Pretty easy to find.
There are also some handy apps, like After OTA for example. Like AcerRecovery, you should be able to install a CWM on your tab. I would use EZTerry's Public Recovery or Thor ver 1.7.3 CWM.
As far as future OTA, it will not effect the ability to get one provided you are running a stock rom. The only thing, when taking an OTA, you will lose root and recovery. And, there always is, as with any OTA, a risk the OTA will fail.
MD
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Secondly, you have to be rooted before installing CWM. The most important is deleting the "boot-recovery" file located in the /system directory. Otherwise, whenever you boot your tab, the CWM will get overwritten. Instructions for this can be found in Civato's bootloader guide in the Dev section. Pretty easy to find.
There are also some handy apps, like After OTA for example. Like AcerRecovery, you should be able to install a CWM on your tab. I would use EZTerry's Public Recovery or Thor ver 1.7.3 CWM...
MD
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Quick point dibb, you can't flash a bootable recovery without a patched boot loader, but you can install recovery without rooting (although if it's stock the ROM will overwrite the recovery)
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original discussion from afterOTA thread
Hi all,
Finally received my nexus 4 after suuuch a long wait.
I went the nexus root as I'd really like to learn all the ins and outs of android. I'm working as a web dev now (nothing with java).
This is my first android device and I will soon want to unlock, root and try manually amend system files.
I have some questions though:
1. Can I unlock the phone through the terminal manually and without toolkit? I want to do everything myself.
2. Are there any tutorials on manually rooting a nexus 4 (I saw a gnex). I don't want to use a tool kit for now.
3. I'd like to try start amending (very basic) some System files. Will it be easy to transfer over the code when updates come?
Thanks!
Check the sticky in the general forum. Great stuff by efrant. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
nm3th said:
Check the sticky in the general forum. Great stuff by efrant. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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Thanks for the link but I have already read that. What I want to do is manually perform the tasks he mentions. When he says to download a toolkit , I want to skip that and manually do what the toolkit does to have a better understanding of the OS.
Did you actually read it? He gives a step by step from unlocking the bootloader, to installing the drivers needed to run adb/fastboot, root, etc. No toolkit; exactly what you're asking for.
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Did you actually read it?
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Yes I have. I guess I must of misunderstood what platform tools are.
Why do I need those? The android development bridge cannot work without that?
Platform-tools-v16 contains the files needed to run adb and fastboot. Adb (android debug bridge) allows you to communicate with your device from your pc. Fastboot allows you to update the flash file system. You will need this if you don't already have the sdk installed. Just follow the instructions and it'll be a good learning experience. Good luck.
**edit** I'm not on my system with the sdk, so I can't check, but I don't think fastboot is included with the sdk anymore, only adb is.
monkeying. around said:
Hi all,
Finally received my nexus 4 after suuuch a long wait.
I went the nexus root as I'd really like to learn all the ins and outs of android. I'm working as a web dev now (nothing with java).
This is my first android device and I will soon want to unlock, root and try manually amend system files.
I have some questions though:
1. Can I unlock the phone through the terminal manually and without toolkit? I want to do everything myself.
2. Are there any tutorials on manually rooting a nexus 4 (I saw a gnex). I don't want to use a tool kit for now.
3. I'd like to try start amending (very basic) some System files. Will it be easy to transfer over the code when updates come?
Thanks!
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its the same as on the gnex, exactly. its the same on all nexus devices. fastboot oem unlock, fastboot a custom recovery, flash either a custom rom or the su binaries in that new recovery, then reboot and profit
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You will need this if you don't already have the sdk installed. Just follow the instructions and it'll be a good learning experience. Good luck.
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OK thanks that clears another point up. I'm not really after learning how to flash etc but more about the OS as a whole. Would also like to slowly attempt to amend some changes in the system files but I'll go ahead and do that guide.
simms22 said:
its the same as on the gnex, exactly. its the same on all nexus devices. fastboot oem unlock, fastboot a custom recovery, flash either a custom rom or the su binaries in that new recovery, then reboot and profit
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OK thanks will try tackle it this weekend.
Can you guys answe my other question? What about people who amend the files how so they go about updating the system where. Updates are released?
monkeying. around said:
Can you guys answe my other question? What about people who amend the files how so they go about updating the system where. Updates are released?
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Make a backup of whatever file you are modifying and when there is an update, revert back to the old file and you should be able to flash the OTA. Or just flash the stock image using the instructions from my first reply, then flash the OTA.
Androidrootz.com has tutorials for manual or tool kits rooting via windows or Mac. I did the Mac version and it was a piece of cake and I am no pc expert. They have info for unrooting and flashing clockwork mod recovery.
Good luck,
Ian B
nm3th said:
Make a backup of whatever file you are modifying and when there is an update, revert back to the old file and you should be able to flash the OTA. Or just flash the stock image using the instructions from my first reply, then flash the OTA.
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Ok that should sort out the updating but after updated what do I do with the backup/modified file. I will have to remodify everything again correct?
Mr Ian B said:
Androidrootz.com has tutorials for manual or tool kits rooting via windows or Mac. I did the Mac version and it was a piece of cake and I am no pc expert. They have info for unrooting and flashing clockwork mod recovery.
Good luck,
Ian B
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Thanks I saw this tutorial and video although I found a better one. Like I said before I thought this was the plug n
Play version. Any will root the traditional way I guess.
there's another guide in this forum, maybe you like that one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
OK guys just backed up all my data to my computer. I've downloaded the platform tools but there seems to be a contradiction here.
Do I have to download the .IMG file that is 300+ mb?
cause some tutorials say I don't.
The IMG file is for just in case you goof up and need to get your phone back up and running.
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The IMG file is for just in case you goof up and need to get your phone back up and running.
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OK thanks. Now I get it.
Regarding the updates, if I am unlocked and have root access with no other changes, I can successfully install the update correct?
Only thing I will lose is root access?
What will happen if I do a factory data reset on a unlocked + rooted device?
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What will happen if I do a factory data reset on a unlocked + rooted device?
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You lose installed apps and data but maintain root
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What about if I've flashed cwm recovery? To the boot loader. Would that get overwritten
Or is that not affected since its in the bootloader...before you get to the os.
monkeying. around said:
What about if I've flashed cwm recovery? To the boot loader. Would that get overwritten
Or is that not affected since its in the bootloader...before you get to the os.
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It will not erase that as you said unless you flash back to the stock recovery image as the boot and recovery is separate. You can wipe data and reflash all day long if you want.