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Battery problems with CDMA hero...

I was looking over the Sprint forums to see if everyone else was having issues with their battery not lasting a day. It seems like there is a huge problem with the dialer keeping your phone on. I'm posting the first post here to spread the word, maybe we can get a fix with everyone in the know.
(Full thread HERE)
My friend and I both purchased Heros and we are both seeing pretty poor battery life. Using a couple of different things we believe we have figured out where the problem lies, but we are unsure how to fix it!
Here's what we know:
Menu < Settings < About Phone < Status < Awake Time
Both of ours have an awake time of 100%. According to other Android users, the lower this number is the better your battery life. So basically this is saying that even when the phone is off, it's not asleep. It is fully awake 100% of the time. Up time should not be the same as awake time.
Using an app called Spare Parts (Spare Parts) you can dig a little deeper.
Spare Parts < Battery History < Partial Wake Usage < Since Last Unplugged.
My phone is showing that the dialer has a wake lock for 16h. This appears to mean that the phone can't sleep because the dialer has locked it.
You can also check under "Other Usage." I have "Running", "Screen on", and "Phone on." Running says:
Time spent without sleeping: 16 hours (100%).
PowerManager | Android Developers
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Originally Posted by Android Developers
PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK
Wake lock that ensures that the CPU is running. The screen might not be on.
*If you hold a partial wakelock, the CPU will continue to run, irrespective of any timers and even after the user presses the power button. In all other wakelocks, the CPU will run, but the user can still put the device to sleep using the power button.
So now the problem is how do we fix it?
UPDATE ON PROGRESS:
I have made some progress! I downloaded a program from the market that was simply called Task Manager. I previously had checked out TasKiller and TaskControl but neither saw the dialer. I opened Task Manager and clicked on "Phone" and got "This task is not exported. don't switch or stop it." Well I stopped it anyways. Instantly after hitting my power button I began to see a time difference between Up Time and Awake Time (5 minute time difference now).
I was also able to call my phone and text it! After doing so "Phone" showed back up in Task Manager however it is still sleeping properly. I'm not sure what else this is effecting yet or if resetting the phone causes it to mess up again.
UPDATE 2:
So I had to get some sleep last night.
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I will be doing lots of testing throughout the day. My phone slept about 7 hours through the night. I only had a 1% drop in battery life during the night! And I did receive a text this morning. The only thing I know for sure so far is that sending a text causes it to stop sleeping again. I will keep this thread updated as I run some tests today.
UPDATE 3:
So we have determined exactly when it happens. We tried all of the following:
receiving e-mail
checking e-mail
browsing the web
loading google maps and locking location
receiving text
reading text
making a phone call
receiving a phone call
Every single one allows the unit to go back to sleep without any issues. There are two things that prevent it from sleeping every time:
send a text
Turning the phone on with no activity
So sending a text is obvious. Every single time we sent a text, the phone would stop sleeping. Receiving a text is fine. What i mean by turning the phone on with no activity is if I turn the phone on and just let it boot up and disable the screen on it's own and never send or receive a text, it will stay awake even though the screen is off. The phone ends up turning the screen off before it actually boots 100%. Once I turn the phone back on and actually look at my home screen (after it's done booting) and then turn it off again, it will sleep properly.
I'll post more as we figure out more.
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Very interesting... I'm subscribing to this thread.
So after sending a txt can you simply kill dialer again to put it back to sleep?

Very interesting... I'm subscribing to this thread.
So after sending a txt can you simply kill dialer again to put it back to sleep?

I'd imagine that it would work that way, but what a PITA
Anyone with a GSM version able to confirm that this doesn't happen on your device?

I'm at a 24% awake time with my CDMA Hero, and my uptime is 5:23:30
Not sure what I'm doing differently, but I am using Advanced Task Killer to auto-end all apps I don't explicitly exclude every 30 minutes. Maybe you've got a runaway process?

Ok so I'm using Handcent SMS now to try and avoid this problem but I feel like it's not doing anything considering I still get notifications from the regular messenging application. I set Handcent as the default SMS/MMS app but I still get two notifications in the notification panel: one from handcent one from Messenger.
Also... I'm going to miss the messenging widget.. handcent doesn't have one. Just a shortcut.

Same problem here I have an awake time of 100% what a bummer. I knew there must be a problem because when I got to work today my battery was at full charge, we cant use our phones at work and I felt like following the rules today lol so I didnt take my phone out not once. I showed it to my friend but I didnt turn it on because it got busy. Anyways i get off work only six hours later, short shift, and remember this is with 0% use and my battery was almost dead.

install chompsms or handsent..

this is what to do
go to spare parts,general, end buton behavious, select "go to sleep"
now every time you press the end call button, the phone should hopefully go to sleep
try it out and say if it makes a difference

immya said:
this is what to do
go to spare parts,general, end buton behavious, select "go to sleep"
now every time you press the end call button, the phone should hopefully go to sleep
try it out and say if it makes a difference
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Spare Parts didn't help, still showing as continuous uptime with "go to sleep" enabled. I can confirm through spare parts that the Dialer is the culprit (Battery history-->Change CPU Usage to Partial Wake Usage)
This is a huge bug, can't believe that they didn't catch this before launch.

subscribed too, this explains why my battery goes away so fast.

I'm gonna subscribe to this. We chances are we're gonna have to fix this one on our own much sooner than Sprint or HTC will release an official fix.

I just noticed this today, a reset fixed it but hopefully they will get a real fix out for it soon.
Good thing I don't send many text messages.

poor_red_neck said:
Ok so I'm using Handcent SMS now to try and avoid this problem but I feel like it's not doing anything considering I still get notifications from the regular messenging application. I set Handcent as the default SMS/MMS app but I still get two notifications in the notification panel: one from handcent one from Messenger.
Also... I'm going to miss the messenging widget.. handcent doesn't have one. Just a shortcut.
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You can turn off the notification from the Hero's Messaging app, There should be an option in the app settings. Also, you can still use the Widget to read messages, but make sure you don't use it for sending them. It seems that sending the message is what causes the glitch.
Also, it appears that HTC is aware of the issue and is working on a fix: http://htcsource.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=770&Itemid=50

I did the workaround to handcent and I can say that I will not revert back to the stock messenger once a true fix is discovered. Handcent really is a better messenger application from the customizations available through to the delivery. The biggest aspect is finally being able to send picture mail without the error of the file being over 1mb. Handcent also tells me that the file is too big to send, but it asks me if I would like it to resize the picture to the correct size to send...yes! Not only that, but it completely plays well with the HTC messenger widget so you can keep that on a screen for easy access if you want to.
Another thing that I noticed was when I tried to send a contact to another device as a V-card file, it was sent through the default messenger but it did NOT cause an issue with the dialer??? I'm not sure how that happened, but it is great to know that using the default messenger for built in processes will not trigger the dialer issue.
In short, Handcent is the ****. Even after the workaround was discovered I was going to wait out a fix for the default app...don't waste your time like I did.
ps--I didn't go through the trouble of a hard/factory reset. I simply installed handcent after a restart and disabled the HTC messenger. No problems what so ever after 6 hours of testing and I also have had Advanced Task Kiler installed since day one. Just be sure to set handcent as the default app whenever there is a screen that asks you for it.
Awake time 38%

Sorry for the question but how do you set handcent as the default messaging app? I've been using it for a day now and haven't found anyway to make it default. I'm still getting 2 notifications and also still have the battery glitch... Any help would be greatly appretiated.

lgrulz said:
how do you set handcent as the default messaging app? I've been using it for a day now and haven't found anyway to make it default. I'm still getting 2 notifications and also still have the battery glitch... Any help would be greatly appretiated.
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I am used to using Handcent since I had my G1 but I think it has gotten even better during my time away. To set it as the default go to message app - settings and deselect notifications way at the bottom. Then click the message widget if you use it or a new text or whatever and select always use this option on the popup and select Handcent. Then REBOOT. Works perfect for me I now have an up time of 23 hours and an awake time of 19% and my battery is nearly full after decent use of browser and Navigation, with GPS, bluetooth, wifi, and lots of talking all day.
edit: also DO NOT open the message app and send a text or you will not see a fix, just throw away any shortcuts to the default app on your homescreen and forget that sucker ever existed

erasmogjr said:
I am used to using Handcent since I had my G1 but I think it has gotten even better during my time away. To set it as the default go to message app - settings and deselect notifications way at the bottom. Then click the message widget if you use it or a new text or whatever and select always use this option on the popup and select Handcent. Then REBOOT. Works perfect for me I now have an up time of 23 hours and an awake time of 19% and my battery is nearly full after decent use of browser and Navigation, with GPS, bluetooth, wifi, and lots of talking all day.
edit: also DO NOT open the message app and send a text or you will not see a fix, just throw away any shortcuts to the default app on your homescreen and forget that sucker ever existed
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I am trying to follow your instructions on setting this as default. I do my settings and my "Notifications" box is already unchecked.
I click on the message widget like you mention and it just brings up my message window. There is never a pop up like you mention so I am not able to set Handcent as default.
Any thoughts?

I don't know if this means anything and/or if this will help, but when I am going to install "Robo Defense FREE" from the market, it says this application has access to the following "System tools, prevent phone from sleeping."

WhiteiceDMSTech said:
I am trying to follow your instructions on setting this as default. I do my settings and my "Notifications" box is already unchecked.
I click on the message widget like you mention and it just brings up my message window. There is never a pop up like you mention so I am not able to set Handcent as default.
Any thoughts?
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Hit the "Clear Defaults" button in Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > Messaging. with this cleared, you should now be prompted wih the choice of messaging apps. Select the one you want (assuming that it is NOT the native mesaging) and select as default.

Battery Drain in Deep Sleep with Stock JB 4.1.2!

Thats right
this rom is amazing but there is ONE big problem and that is Battery Drain while the phone is in deep sleep!
you allways gets around 80% deep sleep and 20% at 200mhz CPU usage.
i have found what causes it and there is two apps running that eats power.
1: Maps
2: Samsung Push Service
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The easiest way is just to do a Force Stop on both then the problem is gone.
but i have not found what settings to use to stop them from running in deep sleep.
maybe someone can figure it out?
i want Google Maps but not Samsung Push Service
just killing Google Maps every time isnt right

Would autostarts work?
This post was pulled out of my arse.

Yeah me too facing the same thiing its mostly on 200mhz and the battery is dieing like hell
Edit i used titanium backup and froze both the apps

Hmm my battery life for today kinda idle usage but I tried with power saver mode on no visible decrease in performance too
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Actually I don't get the Samsung one on mine only maps
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i have done some more testing but im not 100% sure what causes the drain.
it has nothing to do with Samsung Push Service that for sure.
i use Better Battery Stats instead of CPUSpy to see more details and the only app that woke up the phone was maps.
but only if Google Now was on
i think its has something to do with Google Now and "Location and Google search" under Location Services
something bugs it out.
just disable Google Now and untick "Location and Google search" and restart the phone
then you should have your deep sleep at 90% or more
now its cool
this is just 2minutes so the % will rise for a longer time..didnt have time to test longer
you should not have any alarm for the MAPS here
i had two of them before
this one is still there but causes no problem
Set Google Now to OFF and untick Location and Google search and restart
i hope they fix this
you shouldnt disable apps to get decent battery life

where is the google now settings to turn it off?

http://support.google.com/nexus/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2669986

neuropsychosis said:
Would autostarts work?
This post was pulled out of my arse.
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I have the push service frozen. I used autostarts on Maps and disabled it every place I found it. Everything location based still works fine, course and fine. The only bad thing is that once you use the Maps app, you have to go and kill it and kill it out of the cache and make sure its done quick enough that it doesn't respawn. I'll be really happy when holding down the back button kills it entirely. It might be worth making a widget for that now that I think of it. Also, as posted, turning off Google Now is needed since it opens Maps (I think; its been a while since I trialled it).

It's a test version, it's for test purposes, if you decide to use it as your daily rom you must accept it's issues.
So, IMO this topic seems useless to me, a new version will be launched in a while.

Its not worthless. This helps people isolate what causes the drain and perhaps come up with ways to fix it.
This post was pulled out of my arse.

sergini said:
It's a test version,
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nah its the real deal remember

sergini said:
It's a test version, it's for test purposes, if you decide to use it as your daily rom you must accept it's issues.
So, IMO this topic seems useless to me, a new version will be launched in a while.
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new version of this leak?are you saying?

Have the same problem with deepsleep. I'm using original stock odexed rom and battery drain in deep sleep is around 1% per hour which is too much. On my previous rom I've used - MIUI ICS it was around 1% per 8 hours! This is a big difference and something is wrong with it. What's strange on this situation is that CPU spy shows 99% in deepsleep overnight, therefore there should be no big drain. Has anybody encoutered such problems? Just check the battery level when you go sleep and check in the morning by how many % it droppped... Besides this, the rom is almost perfect. Very smooth and stable.
UPDATE: After turning location services off, the battery in deep sleep is superb. No drain anymore. Not sure if it is because of that but now it works great. The best rom ever, even in beta stage! Looking forward for official.

This may be harder on Touchwiz since it apparently doesn't support shortcuts. Its worth looking into I suppose; I haven't any experience with Touchwiz apart from deciding I want to use another launcer. I use nova launcher which works well, others would be fine but my best experience is with Nova and Apex. Both should suffice.
For maps, I've disabled it everywhere in autostarts, then for using it and killing it on exit, so that it doesn't run as a service persistantly, I've used Smanager and Swidgets (you need both installed or another app that will run a shell script) to create a script that kills maps when it isn't the foremost app displayed. Note that this kills maps if you try to background it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=os.tools.scriptmanager&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=os.tools.smwidgets&feature=more_from_developer
Credits to this post; and most likely someone will bother to make a better solution that doesn't kill it when its backgrounded, with the info given there. As you can see, I didn't bother trying out the kill process the way it's layed out in the post but just freeze and unfreeze maps instead.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30175170&postcount=3
I didn't bother messing around all that much and take note that you could just as easily have smanager automatically freeze maps on startup and not worry about autostarts. In any case, the script just unfreezes maps, checks every 2 seconds to see if its running as the foreground displayed app, and if not, freezes it. As such, you lose your maps icon and need to get an icon or icon pack with maps on it to use for your widget.
The script is as follows:
Code:
#!/system/bin/sh
pm enable com.google.android.apps.maps
am start com.google.android.apps.maps/com.google.android.maps.MapsActivity >/dev/null
while [ "`dumpsys activity top | grep '^TASK.*' | cut -d ' ' -f2`" = "com.google.android.apps.maps" ] ; do
sleep 2
done
pm disable com.google.android.apps.maps
Copy and paste the above to somewhere on your sdcard. It can run on the FAT filesystem with the given app. Other approaces would just need the interpreter to call the app (sh or bash if you have it installed), and that might work.. if not then putting it on the /data filesystem would be fine since its ext4 but it'll be gone when wiping data for an upgrade.
Pretty basic after reading the linked post.
pm enable: Unfreezes maps in the case that it is.
am start: Starts maps.
while, sleep, done: Checks every 2 seconds for Maps being in the foreground.
pm disable: Freezes maps app.
Much room for improvement but it suits me really well.
For Smanager and Swidgets, open Smanager, select root if needed, allow root, navigate to script (save it with a .sh file extension when pasting, though not sure if this is needed or not), tap on script, select little root icon so it runs as root, select "is script" if not already selected. exit Smanager but don't kill it. It will want to run as a cached process for starting it on boot, if you kill it on some point just open and close the app again.
Select to add a shortcut in launcher, choose SMshortcuts, select the script. Don't bother giving it a custom icon; best to do it in the custom launcher since it doesn't seem to scale the default one correctly I'm assuming it might not scale one you give it correctly.
Done.
If you wanted to use Smanager (or an alternative app, init.d script assuming it works on this rom, etc) to just freeze maps at startup and not wory about apps like autostart or Gemin, you'de just use:
pm disable com.google.android.apps.maps
That should remain frozen on a reboot, so ideally you'de want to test first to see if its already frozen or it would exit with an error but this might not be a bother for many people.

[Q] Disable Wifi Network Notifications?

Is there any way to turn off or disable all WiFi network notifications? I'm constantly clearing things about available open networks, and also when I connect to WiFi.
The only option I found is in the WiFi settings as "Notify Me - Tell me if Wi-Fi is available when I open an app", which I've turned off.

surfacinglove said:
Is there any way to turn off or disable all WiFi network notifications? I'm constantly clearing things about available open networks, and also when I connect to WiFi.
The only option I found is in the WiFi settings as "Notify Me - Tell me if Wi-Fi is available when I open an app", which I've turned off.
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I would also love to hear a solution to this. It's super annoying.

surfacinglove said:
Is there any way to turn off or disable all WiFi network notifications? I'm constantly clearing things about available open networks, and also when I connect to WiFi.
The only option I found is in the WiFi settings as "Notify Me - Tell me if Wi-Fi is available when I open an app", which I've turned off.
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Did you ever find a solution to this? It's driving me crazy on the Verizon model.

Nope. Still can't find a solution.
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surfacinglove said:
Is there any way to turn off or disable all WiFi network notifications? I'm constantly clearing things about available open networks, and also when I connect to WiFi.
The only option I found is in the WiFi settings as "Notify Me - Tell me if Wi-Fi is available when I open an app", which I've turned off.
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What's wrong with that solution? I go into wifi, menu, advanced, and unchecked wifi notifications. Am I missing something?
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I don't see any notifications setting in WiFi advanced menu, just the one in the main WiFi settings about if an app is open. Screenshot?
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What's wrong with that solution? I go into wifi, menu, advanced, and unchecked wifi notifications. Am I missing something?
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Which version do you have? On the Verizon version unchecking wifi notifications in settings doesn't get rid of the notification. It only gets rid of an extra irritating popup every time you open an app.
The only way I've found to get rid of the notification is to leave wifi turned off. Not sure if that's what Verizon intended to encourage me to do, but since I'm on unlimited data I'm guessing probably not. I won't feel too bad about staying off of wifi and eating up their data until they fix it though. There's no excuse for cluttering up the notification area with constant notifications about nothing, with no way to disable them.
edit - Oh I see. You have AT&T and they're more sensible about it than Verizon.

So, no answer to this on the Verizon phone?? I am hoping a custom ROM will fix this annoying issue. Yes, Verizon, I know I am connected to my wireless network. That thing drives me crazy!! As noted above I have also been leaving my wifi off and just using my Unlimited data. Max to date is 23 Gig in a month!! Eat it VZW!!
bos1 said:
Which version do you have? On the Verizon version unchecking wifi notifications in settings doesn't get rid of the notification. It only gets rid of an extra irritating popup every time you open an app.
The only way I've found to get rid of the notification is to leave wifi turned off. Not sure if that's what Verizon intended to encourage me to do, but since I'm on unlimited data I'm guessing probably not. I won't feel too bad about staying off of wifi and eating up their data until they fix it though. There's no excuse for cluttering up the notification area with constant notifications about nothing, with no way to disable them.
edit - Oh I see. You have AT&T and they're more sensible about it than Verizon.
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surfacinglove said:
Is there any way to turn off or disable all WiFi network notifications? I'm constantly clearing things about available open networks, and also when I connect to WiFi.
The only option I found is in the WiFi settings as "Notify Me - Tell me if Wi-Fi is available when I open an app", which I've turned off.
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man ar you serious with this question ? it is most basic option in smartphones ..

GalaxySIIII said:
man ar you serious with this question ? it is most basic option in smartphones ..
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Obviously you don't have a LG G2 on Verizon :good:

Notification bar. "A Wi-Fi Network is available" or some crap. This is a VS980 problem. Was a Spectrum. Is a Note 3 problem. All Verizon. Never found a solution.

surfacinglove said:
Obviously you don't have a LG G2 on Verizon :good:
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this feature/option is on every smartphone samsung , huawei , htc , lg , sony .. dont believe u dont have it on yours

GalaxySIIII said:
this feature/option is on every smartphone samsung , huawei , htc , lg , sony .. dont believe u dont have it on yours
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Walk into a Verizon store and try to find the setting. Good luck with that, pal.

GalaxySIIII said:
this feature/option is on every smartphone samsung , huawei , htc , lg , sony .. dont believe u dont have it on yours
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Yes, but it DOES NOT disable the network notifications -apps unless Wi-Fi itself is off. Long standing issue with Verizon.

surfacinglove said:
Walk into a Verizon store and try to find the setting. Good luck with that, pal.
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Steamer86 said:
Yes, but it DOES NOT disable the network notifications -apps unless Wi-Fi itself is off. Long standing issue with Verizon.
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what about moding we have root here change software .. come oon guys .. is it so hard ? this is xda with so many options .. get custom rom then jeezz or just root and check build.prop editor

No one's offered an alternative through modding as far as I've seen. How about this, if it's not that hard, YOU fix it and hand over the mod. Not everyone wants a custom ROM with how well stock runs. They never work 100%. So give up IR (ect) for no Wi-Fi notification bug? No thank you. If it was easy as build.prop, would be done. Stop talking out of your ass batterystats.bin guy.

Steamer86 said:
No one's offered an alternative through modding as far as I've seen. How about this, if it's not that hard, YOU fix it and hand over the mod. Not everyone wants a custom ROM with how well stock runs. They never work 100%. So give up IR (ect) for no Wi-Fi notification bug? No thank you. If it was easy as build.prop, would be done. Stop talking out of your ass batterystats.bin guy.
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mmaan chill ouut .. just saying .. how else u wanna do it if not custom rom or just root and install relevant apps for it .. ar u sure there is nothing out there?

Steamer86 said:
Notification bar. "A Wi-Fi Network is available" or some crap. This is a VS980 problem. Was a Spectrum. Is a Note 3 problem. All Verizon. Never found a solution.
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After being annoyed for months I finally got serious about finding a solution. It's actually really easy.
1) Be rooted
2) Install Notifications Off from Play Store (free)
3) Open Notifications Off, scroll down to LGSystemServer, and uncheck it
4) Save
VS980 wifi notifications gone!

Does that kill any other notifications or just the WIFI BS message? Thanks for the find.
bos1 said:
After being annoyed for months I finally got serious about finding a solution. It's actually really easy.
1) Be rooted
2) Install Notifications Off from Play Store (free)
3) Open Notifications Off, scroll down to LGSystemServer, and uncheck it
4) Save
VS980 wifi notifications gone!
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4.3 on AT&T S4, Will we loose MOBILE DATA toggle in Notifications Panel?

I was looking at an AT&T Galaxy Note 3 last night as someone was asking some tricks to it. I told them if you turn off your mobile data thru the notification panel you can save a lot of battery loss, so i showed them how quickly they can do that on the S4. I looked at their Galaxy Note 3 and that MOBILE DATA toggle was missing from the page of icons for the Notification Panel.
This is a big one for me before i upgrade to AT&T's latest. I suppose no one knows now if we will see the same icon missing at this time. Just a heads up.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle
I did when I flashed a 4.3 rom, turning off mobile data was a key tool I use to monitor my phone I don't know why they'd take this step backwards but this was my solution. This app was a great discovery.

pete3000 said:
I was looking at an AT&T Galaxy Note 3 last night as someone was asking some tricks to it. I told them if you turn off your mobile data thru the notification panel you can save a lot of battery loss, so i showed them how quickly they can do that on the S4. I looked at their Galaxy Note 3 and that MOBILE DATA toggle was missing from the page of icons for the Notification Panel.
This is a big one for me before i upgrade to AT&T's latest. I suppose no one knows now if we will see the same icon missing at this time. Just a heads up.
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Are you sure about this?
Maybe you didnt check the settings
Here is a screensshot from the Note 3 :
EDIT: ooops sorry you meant ATT version; I dont know if the screenshot is from ATT or other carriers
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salutcemoi said:
Are you sure about this?
Maybe you didnt check the settings
Here is a screensshot from the Note 3 :
EDIT: ooops sorry you meant ATT version; I dont know if the screenshot is from ATT or other carriers
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Some people said on the leak that they didn't have it, others said they had it but it wasn't set to show by default.

DeadlySin9 said:
Some people said on the leak that they didn't have it, others said they had it but it wasn't set to show by default.
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Ah OK
As I said, I dont think screenshot is from the North American version; International Note 3 has the toggle
Im gonna wait before updating to 4.3 anyway, it would be pretty stupid to remove it, makes no sense

I have tried two different ROMs based on leaks of MJ6 and both were missing the data toggle. I haven't tried any of the MJ5 versions.
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I think saving battery by turning off mobile data will be an individual thing. I ran into issues on my previous Android phone by being too aggressive disabling mobile data with Juice Defender. I discovered that MMS was disabled unless mobile data was turned on, so if you do MMS, remembering to re-enable mobile data could be an inconvenience. And depending on the strength of the mobile data signal, your phone's radio may use more or less power to maintain the connection.
I find I have no battery issues just leaving most everything enabled on my GS4 (data, wifi, gps, gestures, etc.) I don't use many of the smart features, so I switch those off as well as nfc, sbeam and bluetooth.

thanks everyone. i decided to post this Q in the att forums as well . http://forums.att.com/t5/Android-Di...ll-it-be-missing-the-Mobile-Data/td-p/3761065

pete3000 said:
thanks everyone. i decided to post this Q in the att forums as well . http://forums.att.com/t5/Android-Di...ll-it-be-missing-the-Mobile-Data/td-p/3761065
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You should have posted this in the "Q&A" section here as well.

can i have a moderator move it then?

pete3000 said:
I was looking at an AT&T Galaxy Note 3 last night as someone was asking some tricks to it. I told them if you turn off your mobile data thru the notification panel you can save a lot of battery loss, so i showed them how quickly they can do that on the S4. I looked at their Galaxy Note 3 and that MOBILE DATA toggle was missing from the page of icons for the Notification Panel.
This is a big one for me before i upgrade to AT&T's latest. I suppose no one knows now if we will see the same icon missing at this time. Just a heads up.
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That is always an option on all android phones. The phone you were looking at just had the icon hidden. In the notifications panel there is a way to select which icons are shown.

ctleng76 said:
That is always an option on all android phones. The phone you were looking at just had the icon hidden. In the notifications panel there is a way to select which icons are shown.
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I think what he is saying is that it looks like ATT may have had it removed. It is not in the 4.3 ATT leaked firmware for the i747 either, and NO option to choose it. So HOPEFULLY it is just due to a leak and not the full OFFICIAL firmware from ATT. Below are the ONLY choices to choose from on the S3 i747 leak. I have already tried the RESET and it is still not there. So it MAY be something ATT is taking out
Sent From My ATT S3 i747 Dark Blue BadAss Theme

They replaced that button with Reading Mode.
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danchoi704 said:
They replaced that button with Reading Mode.
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Wonder what that reading mode does?
My mobile data button also went missing after the 4.3 update. Be that as it may, I wonder what world you guys live in that find a benefit to turning off mobile data? I find no benefit to doing that. Sure can't send MMS if MD is off. And I have yet to have any battery issues that would make me look for ways to stretch my battery life. OEM battery, stock ROM, Nova Prime launcher.

I turn the bg color from white to yellow
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speedlever said:
Wonder what that reading mode does?
My mobile data button also went missing after the 4.3 update. Be that as it may, I wonder what world you guys live in that find a benefit to turning off mobile data? I find no benefit to doing that. Sure can't send MMS if MD is off. And I have yet to have any battery issues that would make me look for ways to stretch my battery life. OEM battery, stock ROM, Nova Prime launcher.
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Reading mode changes the white to a more yellow color on apps it's enabled on when the toggle is turned on...you have to go to setting and select apps it effects.
As for the benefit...I like to use it when I'm running low on data...I have a 3gb plan but sadly that's not enough, I often get down to 100 mbs left so turning off data prevents background tasks from using up the last of my data...the main reason I eat up si much data is cause let is faster than any wifi I've ever been connected to...so more often than not I use lte instead of wifi
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mg2195 said:
Reading mode changes the white to a more yellow color on apps it's enabled on when the toggle is turned on...you have to go to setting and select apps it effects.
As for the benefit...I like to use it when I'm running low on data...I have a 3gb plan but sadly that's not enough, I often get down to 100 mbs left so turning off data prevents background tasks from using up the last of my data...the main reason I eat up si much data is cause let is faster than any wifi I've ever been connected to...so more often than not I use lte instead of wifi
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That, I can understand. But I was under the impression people were turning off data to save battery life, which doesn't make any sense to me (in my world).

I use my MD button to limit my data usage , not to save battery. .. I use that button more than Reading mode.
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downgrade
ost0211;47017404]https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle
I did when I flashed a 4.3 rom, turning off mobile data was a key tool I use to monitor my phone I don't know why they'd take this step backwards but this was my solution. This app was a great discovery.[/QUOTE]
thanks. I hate Samsung for this dam downgrade.
what's up with business lately, all their upgrades are actually downgrade. has the world spin backward?

How to turn data on/off
Good news is that even with the mobile data button gone from the notification panel, it is still possible to turn the mobile data on/off.
To enable/disable mobile data:
1) Click the gear (Settings)
2) Click "Data Usage"
3) Check/uncheck "Mobile data" box.
Clearly, AT&T wants us to use more data and pay them overage fees or upgrade to a more expensive data plan. That's a pretty cheap trick. With AT&T now offering lower monthly fees when you bring your own phone, my next phone will run stock Android.

Tips to MAXIMIZE the Battery Life of your Xperia Z2

When you talk smartphone, you want consistency, you want reliability, you want good battery life. And considering also that the Xperia Z2 doesn't have a swappable battery, at least not easily, you want your mobile to keep going for as long as possible.
So this thread is to help you optimise the battery life of your Xperia Z2. It's not 'Magic', it's just knowing what drains battery and avoiding it. Simple tips most people know and well, many more should. I will also use the steps from my Initial thread here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2579075 as the steps there are actually helpful to just about any android devices.
Just dat in this thread, i will try to target it at the Xperia Z2 of course.
Xperia Z2 specific tips (Or any other Xperia device)
1. Turn On Stamina Mode: App drawer > Settings > Power Management. Turn it on.
After turning on Stamina mode, remember to add the applications you need active in Standy, these are applications your rely on for notifications, such as Instant messaging apps.
If you do not do this, you will not receive IM messages or email notifications till you turn on your screen.
Example of the apps on my list are: BBM, Email, Gmail, Instagram, Messenger (FB), WhatsApp. So I still get my messages.
2. Turn On Extended Stand By: App drawer > Settings > Power Management > Stamina mode. Then tick Extended Standby.
3. Turn On Extended usage: App drawer > Settings > Power Management > Stamina mode. Then tick Extended Usage. (If you notice lag, turn off this feature) - But this has a HUGE effect on extending battery life. I don't get lags, so i leave it on.
4. Turn On Low Battery mode: App drawer > Settings > Power Management. Turn on Low battery mode. Now select Low Battery mode then Unick Mobile Data Off and WiFi Off, as i'm guessing you would still want to use your internet when ur battery is below 20%.
5. Turn On location Based WiFi: As the name implies, it turns on ur WiFi when u are in a certain location (say home or office). Then turns WiFi off when u out of that location. This feature doesn't work in my situation as I have a mobile pocket router. So I keep it turned off, do the same if you you have one of those too.
6. Turn On Queue background data: App drawer > Settings > Power Management. Tick Queue background data.
As the description below it says, what it does is queue the background data and send out background data at intervals, instead of sending randomly and using more battery.
7. Turning Off X-Reality Engine: This can also help you save some battery, but i guess most people will rather have than on. You can find this here Settings > Display. First thing on the list is X-Reality Engine.
8. Freeze Bloat: Bloatware are apps that could be useful but are not neccesary for the effective running of the phone. The more bloat u have running, the more ram your device uses and in turn, battery. I have made a list of Apps that are 'Safe to Freeze' on the Xperia Z2 itself, as I am not yet rooted at the time of this original post, the list is not yet complete.
But I will add alot more to this list when I root and get the option to freeze even more. You can disable these apps by going into Settings > Apps, then swipe to the 'All' tab. Select the app then hit disable.
Here is the list below.
Safe to Freeze Apps
Account Manager
Black Hole
Bubbles
Drive (I have limited data, i don't use it - I reckon it will drain battery too)
Google lyrics extension
Google Play Newsstand
Google Search (Will explain later in this post)
Google+ (Will explain later in this post)
Maps (Will explain later in this post)
Movie Creator (This disables Timeshift Video creation)
News & Weather
Photo Analyser Service
Play Games
Podcast
SensMe slideshow
Sketch
Smart Connect (You will need for Sony accessories)
Social Live
Socialife
Sony Select (You will need enabled to download themes)
Support
Weather Widget
Wikipedia extension
Wireless Emergency Alerts
Xperia Calender Sync
Xperia Music Likes
Xperia Socila Engine Sharing
Xperia Lounge
Xperia with Facebook
YouTube (I almost never use it, if you do.. No need to)
YouTube extension
YouTube karaoke extension
General Tips (Adopted from my first thread)
9. Greenify: ROOT ONLY EVERY rooted user must have Greenify! It's a fantastic app! It hibernates apps that you are not using so they never get to use your battery, yet the apps are available whenever you need them. No stress!
Download Greenify here - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify (I bought the paid version as it has more fuctions)
For those who don't know greenify or how to use it, it's simple! Only Greenify those apps you don't rely on for Push Notifications.
For example, don't greenify apps like WhatsApp, Facebook, Viber, Twitter, BBM if you expect to get notifications from them in the background.
Feel free to Greenify other apps like your games, adobe reader, dictionary, and the rest of them as you don't receive notifications from.
Note: If you are a NON ROOT Greenify user, you can still select to greenify apps. Go into Greenify and click the '3 dots' at the bottom right corner of the screen and hit 'Create hibernation shortcut'. This will send a shortcut to your home screen which u can use to close all ur supposedly 'greenified' apps by just touching that button. Do this whenever, especially just before u lock ur device. It's very effective. However, Greenify works best on Rooted devices. It hibernates automatically.
10. Screen/Brightness: As we all know, normally the screen consumes the most power so if you can manage ur screen properly, u can get some extra juice. My advice on brightness is set to Lowest then tick 'Auto', so you won't have to bother about setting screen brightness especially when outdoors. Then you should screen also set timeout to 30s. Try to avoid using live wallpapers as it uses the GPU for the animations.
11. GPS/Maps: Now, GPS is like the Number One drainer of battery and many many people don't know this. Here is what you do, pull down your notification bar with 2 fingers and make sure 'Location' is turned off. Leave turned off 'ALWAYS' unless you need to use GPS.
Maps is also another app that drains battery in the background, I don't use maps at all, so I keep it frozen/disabled all the time.
But if you use maps always and you are ROOTED, my advice is that you open up TitaniumBackup, look for maps on the list of apps, long press it and then convert to User app. Now u can Greenify it and it will still be available whenever you need it.
Note: Latest versions of Titanium Backup doesn't allow you to convert user apps, I can't find it anywhere anyways.. But here is a work-around. Uninstall Maps in Titanium Backup. Then re-install it from Play Store. Now it will install as User app instead of system app and u can freeze it.
12. Google Now / Google+: Google now does drain battery, if you don't use Google Now, turn it off. Go into Google now, enter settings and turn off. I keep my Google now frozen as I never use it anyways. If I ever need to, I will unfreeze it.
Google+ is one app that drains alot of battery, if you do not use it much or don't need it at all, my advice is that you handle it. Greenify it or better still, Get rid of it. However, if you use Google+ always and you are ROOTED, Greenify it just as I said in the step above.
If you successfully handle numbers 11 and 12, you will not have issues with 'Google Services' drain anymore!
13. Sounds/Vibration: Maybe not really a big deal, but those keypad/touch sounds do drain battery. It's fine to leave them on if you 'really' like em, but if you can do without, then do! Especially Haptic Feedback! (Vibrate on touch). Settings > Sound. Now scroll down to System. You will get the option there to turn them off. It's fine to leave Dial pad touch tones and StartUp tone. You don't hear/use then dat often (If that makes any sense to you lol). Also go into ur keyboard settings and turn off any sounds and vibration
14. Reception: Believe it or not, reception is VERY IMPORTANT when it comes to battery life saving. If you have good reception, then it's smooth sailing and good battery, but if your reception isn't good then your phone is always always trying to reconnect your apps and services to the internet, over and over and over again! (especially on mobile data). Trust me, this can take a serious Toll on your battery.
Here is how: Well, since i'm always on WiFi (have a pocket router as i said earlier).. I never need '3G/HSPA' reception active (No 4G here), so I set my phone to GSM/2G Only. Go into Settings > More... > Mobile Networks. then change Network mode to GSM Only). If you use LTE, you can set to either just 3G Only as that should still be more stable than 4G/LTE, you can still set as above too, afterall you won't be needing the LTE connection when on WiFi.
Bottomline, setting phone to 'GSM only' saves you a CHUNK of battery
However, if this sounds too complicated or something, this App makes it simple. (SADLY it is ROOT ONLY) You can set it to switch your phone to GSM Only when on WiFi and then Back to 4G/3G when disconnected from WiFi. Pretty Neat eh?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/themes-apps/app-intelli3g-2g-3g-4g-toggle-battery-t2580234
15. Disable Animation scales: Settings > Developer Options. Then scroll down to 'Drawing' section. And set the following to 'Animation Off'. Window animation scale, Transition animation scale and Animator duration scale. What this does it disable those UI animation helping you save battery, at the same time, making ur phone feel more responsive and fast.
Note: If you can't find 'Developer Options' in your settings menu, Select 'About Phone' instead then scroll down and keep hitting the 'Build number' option as many times till you see message saying 'You are now a developer', now go back and you will find developer options!
16. Sync: Of course disabling Auto Sync will extend your battery time, but then your smartphone might as well not be called a 'smart'phone anymore. So, even if you leave Auto-Sync on, be sure to make sure that your phone Auto Syncs stuffs that you actually want it to, things that you really need! Especially under Google Sync. Open Settings, Scroll down to 'Accounts' area then select Google. After you select Google, now select ur main account there which i guess should normally be the first one. Not sure, I only alays have 1 google account on my phone. After you select it, you will see a list of the items it is actively Syncing. For me here, the most important to me are 'Sync Contacts' and 'Sync Gmail' and those are the only two I leave active. I untick all the rest. You should do this according to what you use, or do it like Stanley! You can apply same to other google accounts you have on ur phone.
Extra (Unrelated)
I found out that the Whites on the Xperia Z2 is kinda off. Looks 'brownish' if I may. Go into Settings > Display > White balance. Then try R = 5, G = 35, B = 80.
Want more tips? Have some questions? Want quicker response?! Or you can actually contribute...
JOIN THE XPERIA Z2 FACEBOOK GROUP HERE
Having said all these, I know some of you will disagree with some things I have written above. But I'm only trying to help Xperia Z2 users get the best out of their Battery.
And hopefully the screenshots below will convince you to try some or all of the tips above. And as I said, I'm not rooted (at the time of this post) so i guess even root is not essential to get the best battery life on the Z2.
I had BBM, WhatsApp, 2 Email clients (Stock and Gmail), Instagram, Messenger (FB). Stock Facebook app drains too much battery! I don't use it.
First Test
ScreenTime
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Battery Graph
For some reason, GSam Battery Monitor Pro did not tally with the phones stats exactly. I think it was because I didn't install the Kitkat battery stat thing it asked me to or maybe its because i'm not rooted. Don't know really. Anyways, it's only about 1 or 2 minutes off and still as credible, you get a better idea of how i used my phone.
GSam Battery Monitor Pro
Second Test with Extensive Usage
GSam Battery Monitor Pro
Screentime
Battery Use
I hope this thread really helps you 'Maximize the Battery Life of your Xperia Z2'
CHEERS!

thanks for sharing and making the list of safe apps to disable. I followed the list and disabled almost all of them and you should include xperia with twitter as well beside the facebook one. Since im not rooted,thats the only thing i do now + stamina mode. Now i will see how it will go with battery saving

StarFcker said:
thanks for sharing and making the list of safe apps to disable. I followed the list and disabled almost all of them and you should include xperia with twitter as well beside the facebook one. Since im not rooted,thats the only thing i do now + stamina mode. Now i will see how it will go with battery saving
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Ok i will add to the list as i said. Don't forget to say if it helps you. Cheers!

Thanks for the post. It's nice to see I'm not the only one who's anal about battery life. And I hate all the battery draining bloatware (that's usually switched ON by default as well).
I'll de-bloat some more as soon as there's an exploit that allows me to root without UB.
And I'll have a look into Greenify as well. Is it as good as You claim it to be?
EDIT: It would be nice to know what all those safe-to-remove apps do. What does Xperia Social Engine Sharing do, for instance?

Don MC said:
Thanks for the post. It's nice to see I'm not the only one who's anal about battery life. And I hate all the battery draining bloatware (that's usually switched ON by default as well).
I'll de-bloat some more as soon as there's an exploit that allows me to root without UB.
And I'll have a look into Greenify as well. Is it as good as You claim it to be?
EDIT: It would be nice to know what all those safe-to-remove apps do. What does Xperia Social Engine Sharing do, for instance?
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I will look at them, but i guess it has to do with sharing something from an app in ur phone to FB. 'Safe to Freeze' only means freezing it won't disturb ur phone and not that u must freeze them all. I don't use these...

Unless rooted, I don't think greenify helps that much. It doesn't seem to hibernate properly once out the app. Just sits in pending?!

belloni said:
Unless rooted, I don't think greenify helps that much. It doesn't seem to hibernate properly once out the app. Just sits in pending?!
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True! Greenify is more effective when u rooted.

Great guide!
I was to point out to users that Freezing 'Movie Creator' disables Timeshift Video creation.

Lolento said:
Great guide!
I was to point out to users that Freezing 'Movie Creator' disables Timeshift Video creation.
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Thanks alot mate! Added to OP.

Is stamina mode necessary with greenify on or vice versa? Seems like they do the same thing
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xnknown said:
Is stamina mode necessary with greenify on or vice versa? Seems like they do the same thing
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I was wondering the same thing. Stamina seems to be doing a great job :good:

xnknown said:
Is stamina mode necessary with greenify on or vice versa? Seems like they do the same thing
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I was wondering the same thing. Stamina seems to be doing a great job :good:
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Lol. I get ur confusion. But technically, No. Stamina mode disables internet to stop apps from transferring data. Greenify closes the entire app. Let's say for instance, you sleep off using your phone, maybe with Google Chrome running, stamina mode will only stop google chrome from transferring in the background 'periodically' but Greenify will close Google chrome entirely because it sees that your screen has been turned off for a while which means that you are not using the app. So, it closes it entirely. Saving you even more juice.

I do nothing you are mentioning and getting almost 2 days battery life.
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PiskopatYazar said:
I do nothing you are mentioning and getting almost 2 days battery life.
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with 10 hours screen on time like the OP??

stu_tls said:
with 10 hours screen on time like the OP??
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Firstly Im not wasting my 10 hours of a day on my phone.
Secondly I get 5 - 6 hours on screen

PiskopatYazar said:
Firstly Im not wasting my 10 hours of a day on my phone.
Secondly I get 5 - 6 hours on screen
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when you get 10 hours like the op you wont be getting 2 days out of it
I can get 3 or 4 days out of mine if I hardly use it

stanley08 said:
Lol. I get ur confusion. But technically, No. Stamina mode disables internet to stop apps from transferring data. Greenify closes the entire app. Let's say for instance, you sleep off using your phone, maybe with Google Chrome running, stamina mode will only stop google chrome from transferring in the background 'periodically' but Greenify will close Google chrome entirely because it sees that your screen has been turned off for a while which means that you are not using the app. So, it closes it entirely. Saving you even more juice.
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Do we need root to use greenify?
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paras said:
Do we need root to use greenify?
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Yes. To use it effectively.
PiskopatYazar said:
I do nothing you are mentioning and getting almost 2 days battery life.
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Then this thread isn't for you. Neither is it compulsory that you must comment. If I leave my phone in my closet, I will get over a week battery life.

Trolls will troll. Let's ignore them..
Thanks for the good tips!

Vangelis13 said:
Trolls will troll. Let's ignore them..
Thanks for the good tips!
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Haha! True mate! And Cheers!