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Please be kind to me as this is my first post on XDA although I have been reading and utilizing these forums for quite some time. If this question has already been addressed, please let me know. I have already searched the forum and was unable to find anything on the subject but perhaps I wasn't as diligent as I could have been.
I left my G1 on the roof of my car and it fell off and was run over by a car. I already ordered a new one which will arrive in two days (I do nightly nandroid backups so all is well in that department). I would, however, like to donate the crushed G1 to one of the developers on this site so that they can salvage it for parts. Believe it or not, I was actually able to boot to the recovery screen and do a wipe (Alt-W). Obviously I could not see this as the screen is crushed but it rebooted after I hit Back+Home so I am pretty certain that there are some valuable working parts for someone who knows what they are doing.
I have taken advantage of the ROMs on this forum for awhile (Kavana's WinMo 6.1) as well as How-To posts (Apps2SD, Rooting G1, Nandroid, MAM, etc.) and countless other posts to keep my phone in perfect working order, and would like to give at least a little back to the hard working developers here. I would like a moderator to assist me in getting the phone into the hands of the right developer. I am sure it has some value to someone. I am pretty certain that the motherboard is in working condition as well as the keyboard and various other parts (it still vibrates on boot). I don't know much about hardware as I am largely a developer and a user. I don't want to take it apart only to find out that I have ruined what was once a good part. Ebay was an option but I figure that I will actually get more value out of donating it since XDA is literally my lifeline and smartphones would just plain suck without this site.
Please reference the attached photos. Sorry they are not so great. They were taken on my Dash because I was too lazy to take out my good camera.
Post replies here and we can go from there.
Thanks,
Aaron
Cool I'm sure someone will find this useful. You might want to save the battery so you have two
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Cool I'm sure someone will find this useful. You might want to save the battery so you have two
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haha ill take it
i was gonna say send that battery my way because the one i have drains too fast for me and a new one cost like 60 bux.
ill take it... i know im not a dev but ive been wanting to learn how to take the g1 apart and put it back together but i couldnt justify the price of buying one.. ill surely make a guide (both a pictoral one and a video on youtube)... if not i understand
PM Sent to you a little earlier.
jaygajay said:
i was gonna say send that battery my way because the one i have drains too fast for me and a new one cost like 60 bux.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320374959323#ht_1969wt_907
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I believe you should donate it to one of the members working on finding the jtag pins so the people who were effected by the spl brick might have a second chance
Amazon sells them as well for about $7 + $3 for shipping.. OEM, safe..never had issues..
I am keeping the battery which still works. Now I have three! The battery door is crushed too. My goal is for the phone to better not just one person in need of parts but the community in general. If a developer can use this to help out the rest of us it will have been worth it. Like I have stated, I am not sure what use it will be but I am sure that someone out there can utilize it for the benefit of the rest of us.
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I believe you should donate it to one of the members working on finding the jtag pins so the people who were effected by the spl brick might have a second chance
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Can you, or someone else, point me in the direction of one of these developers? This sounds like a worthy cause.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320374959323#ht_1969wt_907
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ICBM said:
Amazon sells them as well for about $7 + $3 for shipping.. OEM, safe..never had issues..
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So why do T-Mobile and HTC sell them so expensive?
donate your Devices
if you would like to donate any device that you dont use.
i take any cellphone i fix them and recycle the one that dont work...
the one's that work i give it to people that need it...
also i use them to make videos take them aparts///// and e.t.c..
donate @ [email protected]
just pm you
G1 disassembly
If you want to take apart your G1, here's a good start:
http://androinica.com/2008/12/19/htc-dream-service-manual-now-available-for-download/
Donate it to one of the big Devs, EX: JesusFreke, Cyanogen, The Dude, JAC, Etc...
Im sure they can MORE then utilize an extra device in futher learning/releasing Android related ROMs.
oreoOozZz said:
Donate it to one of the big Devs, EX: JesusFreke, Cyanogen, The Dude, JAC, Etc...
Im sure they can MORE then utilize an extra device in futher learning/releasing Android related ROMs.
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A battery from HTC directly (after they first tried to deny my warranty status) is 37, shipping included.
As for a crushed device, I should try to find one in that condition since emulator will not run on my laptop. More or less the process goes make a program or update, open my sd card, load it, try it, improve it on the computer, delete the sd card copy, move the new one... very agravating.
Not to mention if you plug the device into the computer right, you can load your device AS the emulator (but I don't really want to do that to my "daily driver")
I would like to suggest a moment of silence to honor your G1.
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Can you, or someone else, point me in the direction of one of these developers? This sounds like a worthy cause.
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lbcoder has expressed a desire to jtag the g1.. I'm not sure if anyone's sent a dead board his way yet.
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lbcoder has expressed a desire to jtag the g1.. I'm not sure if anyone's sent a dead board his way yet.
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Haven't got one yet, the lead I had seems to have disappeared.
If interested in sending it for jtag study, PM me.
I've noticed recently the backlight on my HD2 seems to have suffered some sort of malfunction or something. Might be a bit of a strong way of describing it perhaps.
Basically imagine if you have a blank white screen/image showing on the phone, there's a couple of bits on it that always stay in the same place where the brightness is not the same as the rest. I'm certain it's only been like this recently but no idea why.
You can only really notice it with very pale or bits of white on the screen but am wondering:
1 - if anyone else has this,
2 - how it's happened,
3 - anything I can do about it,
In particular if it's a fault with the phone (as I'm certain the phone has never been knocked and it definitely has never been dropped or pressed hard etc), is this something I could get done under warrantee.
If it is, can I get it fixed on warrantee even with no receipt since I bought it on Ebay? Every single HD2 is still in its warrantee period so I hope they could do.
Thanks!
I have the same, they advised me to contact support, but i kinda neglected it for the time being.
I have the same kind of spot in the middle of my screen, i only really see it when the screen is white, annoying tho :/
I dont like the idea of having to send the phone out and missing it for a few weeks :'(
I had the same problem on my device so I called HTC and they picked it up, repaired it and sent it back. Well they sorted out this particular problem (by replacing the LCD panel) but, alas, created few more. The buttons were not placed properly, the body was damaged and etc. So Angry and Disappointed Me called them up and they picked it up again. This time they replaced the whole unit (the actual body if I am not mistaken) and sent it back. Finally I was glad to have my phone back after two weeks.
Funny enough most of the HTC employees that I spoke to had very poor English. And I spoke with quiet a few of them. Luckily I am talented at mimicking broken English and didn't have much problem getting my message across. I'd imagine for most people it should be very difficult to explain their problem and arrange repairs.
Thanks for the replies.
Is it possible to do this without a sales receipt and still not have to pay? I don't think I should have to pay since it's not very old at all but I can't prove it's actually my phone I guess.
Did you just contact them via the XDA website or something?
I got the same issue. Most annoying when reading long emails or articles. I thought about sending it in for repair but I have voided my warranty already and don't want to be missing my hd2 for a couple weeks and get hit with a massive bill. I think it has something to do with the layers in the LCD not being completely flat. But I havent got that far in my explorations of this phone, maybe I will on my next trip.
You should contact HTC support by calling at the number for your country that you can find from the HTC website.
They can do everything with the phone's serial no. At least that's how it worked for my Kaiser I got on ebay too when I had a prob with it.
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I thought about sending it in for repair but I have voided my warranty already.
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Hmmm, good point. I have a custom rom on it so mine probably would be void too right? If I change it back to the original rom it should be ok though presumably?
Thanks anyway - glad this is not me.
I am also seeing this on my HD2. It is very faint and only really noticeable on white screens. Once you know it is there though you can't help but keep looking for it
To be honest I can put up with it as most of the time you can't actually see it, for example I can't see it now due to the keyboard being up.
I'd be interested to know if anyone in the UK sends their phone off for repair as I might do the same. I can't be without my phone though, it would be like loosing my arm!
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I am also seeing this on my HD2. It is very faint and only really noticeable on white screens. Once you know it is there though you can't help but keep looking for it
To be honest I can put up with it as most of the time you can't actually see it, for example I can't see it now due to the keyboard being up.
I'd be interested to know if anyone in the UK sends their phone off for repair as I might do the same. I can't be without my phone though, it would be like loosing my arm!
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I have sent mine. Post 3 above ^^^
AF241 said:
I have sent mine. Post 3 above ^^^
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Ah yes, so you did. Sorry I was looking at the flag on your profile not your location
I have a small crack on the glass of my HD2 as well between the bottom of the phone and the power / end call key. It looks like a small hair stuck under the button Not sure if they would replace the glass for me as well if I sent it off?
I got my phone from O2 so I'm wondering if I'd have to go to O2 for repair or direct to HTC, maybe I could do both
Anyway, for now I think I'll refrain from sending it off unless it really starts annoying me. A bit of a pain though
I've emailed HTC as well to ask about this.....
It's been fun, but I'm saying good-bye to my HD2.
The lag and crashing issues aren't THAT bad (excluding the texting program) but it's just inconvenient. A phone shouldn't have any of these issues, right?? And its nice that you can try different ROMs to find better performance but you shouldn't have to search for an alternative such as that after receiving your $450 brand new phone (I regret paying the full retail price so bad. I shouldn't have bought into the hype).
And for those of you claiming to have ZERO problems with your stock TMOUS HD2's running default ROMs, I question what your definitions of "problem" and "inconvenience" are, along with your perception of lag and ability to notice it. But if our perception to lag and detail is the same and you actually don't have any problems then you are very lucky.
Things I love: Browsing, Sense minus texting, Screen, Office Mobile, Camera
Things I hate: Texting, crashes, drop of 3G (probably more of T-Mobile's fault), lack of Apps compared to the droid and apple platforms.
To be honest, if I didn't text so much, I'd probably keep the phone.
Once again, it's been fun and this forum has been VERY helpful in my quest to fix the phone. Everyone is nice and overall very well informed. Thanks!
-Alex
PS, if anyone has some secret solution to this problem(s) other than trying the latest 2.13 ROM from T-mobile (which I have already tried), I'd be willing to keep the phone!
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It's been fun, but I'm saying good-bye to my HD2.
The lag and crashing issues aren't THAT bad (excluding the texting program) but it's just inconvenient. A phone shouldn't have any of these issues, right?? And its nice that you can try different ROMs to find better performance but you shouldn't have to search for an alternative such as that after receiving your $450 brand new phone (I regret paying the full retail price so bad. I shouldn't have bought into the hype).
And for those of you claiming to have ZERO problems with your stock TMOUS HD2's running default ROMs, I question what your definitions of "problem" and "inconvenience" are, along with your perception of lag and ability to notice it. But if our perception to lag and detail is the same and you actually don't have any problems then you are very lucky.
Things I love: Browsing, Sense minus texting, Screen, Office Mobile, Camera
Things I hate: Texting, crashes, drop of 3G (probably more of T-Mobile's fault), lack of Apps compared to the droid and apple platforms.
To be honest, if I didn't text so much, I'd probably keep the phone.
Once again, it's been fun and this forum has been VERY helpful in my quest to fix the phone. Everyone is nice and overall very well informed. Thanks!
-Alex
PS, if anyone has some secret solution to this problem(s) other than trying the latest 2.13 ROM from T-mobile, I'd be willing to keep the phone!
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have you updated to the latest rom? texting has greatly improved IMHO. that was also my major concern with this phone prior to the update.
I agree with you to a certain extent, Alex. But I am more of a tinkerer to find solutions to the problems. If there weren't ANY problems with the phone, I would get rid of it!!!!
As far as texting... have you tried Swype? I came from a hardware-keyboard phone myself, and hated trying to text with the onscreen keyboard. But after getting used to Swype, I can say that I am MUCH happier.
With all that said... I'll give you $100 for your phone!!!!
I'll go to 105.
Alex,
If you bought a car, and a few months later the manufacturer announces they have a modification they can do to the car that will address certain issues, including one that you're experiencing (let's assume something other than critical safety issues)....do you return the car, or let them apply the modification?
It's the same idea with the new tmo ROM...it's an official update that you should try, especially with your SMS issues. No product is perfect out of the gate, and an official update like this is the only real way for them to try to fix issues from the factory. If you like the phone other than those reasons you listed, it seems silly to walk away from it already without even giving that a try.
Sorry that I didn't make it clear but I'm running the 2.13 right now. Texting is a little better but still laggy. And I should probably give swype a try before writing it off. We will see. Thanks guys
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I'll go to 105.
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I've got 110.00
Alex, what phone are you gonna switch to?
Software Vs. Hardware
I really don't have any major problems with anything on the stock rom. No lags or nothing. That being said, if I experienced any issues my first response would be to find out if its hardware or software related.
In my mind, you can solve every single software related issues and I really love the HD2 hardware so there is no way I will ever return mine just because I face some software issues. And this is the great thing about WM, you can actually tweak it to function the way you want.
I must say that this is not the phone for someone who wants it work out of the box. I mean it works but you really need to know what you are doing. Regarding the apps, WM has far more apps then any mobile os out there, you cannot just compare the marketplace apps. Its WM, you have to know what you are getting into before you buy a phone.
alexs0fly said:
Sorry that I didn't make it clear but I'm running the 2.13 right now. Texting is a little better but still laggy. And I should probably give swype a try before writing it off. We will see. Thanks guys
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Ahhh gotcha, understood now, sorry.
Yes I would definitely give swype a try, once you use it, it's a whole different touch-typing experience.
The only other thing I'd ask is how often you clear out text messages on your phone? I think that 99% of the SMS freezing is due to too many text messages in the client at once. I clean mine out once a day at least, more if I'm texting a lot that day. I simply run a quick myphone backup to save them off-phone, and then I wipe out any threads I'm not currently conversing in (including clearing the deleted items folder). I never have any SMS freezing, even on the original (2.10) tmo ROM I'm still running.
adamhlj said:
Alex, what phone are you gonna switch to?
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I'm gonna just go with something simple and cheap like a Blackberry 8900 or 8520. I also need the money because something came up =/
np231 said:
I really don't have any major problems with anything on the stock rom. No lags or nothing. That being said, if I experienced any issues my first response would be to find out if its hardware or software related.
In my mind, you can solve every single software related issues and I really love the HD2 hardware so there is no way I will ever return mine just because I face some software issues. And this is the great thing about WM, you can actually tweak it to function the way you want.
I must say that this is not the phone for someone who wants it work out of the box. I mean it works but you really need to know what you are doing. Regarding the apps, WM has far more apps then any mobile os out there, you cannot just compare the marketplace apps. Its WM, you have to know what you are getting into before you buy a phone.
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Yeah, I know there's a lot of tweaking involved. I guess I just belong to the group of people that just want their phone to operate nearly perfectly fresh out of the box. I guess I really didn't know what I was getting myself into. I should have looked further into WM.
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Ahhh gotcha, understood now, sorry.
Yes I would definitely give swype a try, once you use it, it's a whole different touch-typing experience.
The only other thing I'd ask is how often you clear out text messages on your phone? I think that 99% of the SMS freezing is due to too many text messages in the client at once. I clean mine out once a day at least, more if I'm texting a lot that day. I simply run a quick myphone backup to save them off-phone, and then I wipe out any threads I'm not currently conversing in (including clearing the deleted items folder). I never have any SMS freezing, even on the original (2.10) tmo ROM I'm still running.
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I'm testing out swype. I don't like it for the moment but I think its just because I'm not used to it. Gonna keep messing with it. As for clearing messages, I try not to let mine exceed 50. I wish I never had SMS freezing. I had less freezing on Kumar's classic 1.6 though
your hd2
alexs0fly said:
I'm gonna just go with something simple and cheap like a Blackberry 8900 or 8520. I also need the money because something came up =/
Yeah, I know there's a lot of tweaking involved. I guess I just belong to the group of people that just want their phone to operate nearly perfectly fresh out of the box. I guess I really didn't know what I was getting myself into. I should have looked further into WM.
I'm testing out swype. I don't like it for the moment but I think its just because I'm not used to it. Gonna keep messing with it. As for clearing messages, I try not to let mine exceed 50. I wish I never had SMS freezing. I had less freezing on Kumar's classic 1.6 though
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let me know if you decide you want to get rid of your phone. I would seriously consider buying it if your price isn't to far fetched.
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Regarding the apps, WM has far more apps then any mobile os out there, you cannot just compare the marketplace apps.
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Apps that are compatible with this phone's resolution? Apps that compare to the UI of other platforms? Games that are similar to one on the other platforms?
Until you can show me this, I will still consider WM phones to be a NON-app instensive platform. Yes, they have all the apps you could need to do anything with, but they don't have all the apps you WANT.
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let me know if you decide you want to get rid of your phone. I would seriously consider buying it if your price isn't to far fetched.
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What do you consider a "far fetched" price to be? I cant take too big of a loss either you know.
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What do you consider a "far fetched" price to be? I cant take too big of a loss either you know.
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pm me with a price and i will let you know if i can afford it.
i want to get rid of my phone too, evo 4g is out and it puts this phone to shame.. the laggy texting ect..swype wont even help u.. and u can get swype for a lot of phones anyway.
I have to agree with you 100%, I am coming of of a Nokia E51 which for a three year old phone has more basic, logical features which I though every phone would have.
The sms lagg is horrible and I experience all the time, or the fact that we cant keep the hom page looking the way it does and turn off the active weather. It lags the crap out of th phone if u just go to move screens or find something and its showing you clouds for 19 seconds scrolling by..
you cannot uninstal the useless applications that came with it without whiping the entire phone.
The new update is fine and dandy, but It clears the whole phone, so eveyr thign I have installed and set i have to redo just to get an upgrade, totaly idiotic in my mind. If its a OS update, then it should only effect the OS backround files not reset the total system.
Backing up contact. Sims only store 250 contact. I have over 300 so I have many on my phone it self, to copy the entire phone book to memory card, i have to do it one by one. Yes I know I can instal an app for it, but should I really have to? thats should be a basic app. Syncing with your computer, requires you to have email set up in outlook, I dont use out look, so I have to go through all that troube just to get that done.
In my house, my nokia has full signal at all times, with this new bad boy phone i barly get one bar if I am lucky.
Just simple little things which should be an automacit features on phones are missing here. I dont get the thinking behind that.
To the person who did the car analogy. Would you buy a expensive car if you had to install the breaks you self after purchase.. Oh you want a rear veiw mirror? here is a mirror, and some glue go have fun? no you would not, you would expect all functions to be there.
The phone doesnt even allow you to control how you view your contacts for crying out loud, I had to D/L an app to set if i want to view first name/ last name, vs the default last name first name. That is just bad.
Out side of a big shiny screen that eats ur batery life in one day and the camera.. nothing special.
just my two cents
rysky007, I agree with you for the most part
Would you buy a car knowing that it does not come with certain features or does not perform the way you want it to? Or do you just buy any car expecting all of them to come with features just because a car of another brand had them? There is a reason why it's better to lease a BMW than buying it.
It seems like you're the average joe that bought into the hype not knowing what Windows Mobile is.
Don't come crying just because the phone was not what you expected it to be. Do your homework next time before making a purchase.
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I have to agree with you 100%, I am coming of of a Nokia E51 which for a three year old phone has more basic, logical features which I though every phone would have.
The sms lagg is horrible and I experience all the time, or the fact that we cant keep the hom page looking the way it does and turn off the active weather. It lags the crap out of th phone if u just go to move screens or find something and its showing you clouds for 19 seconds scrolling by..
you cannot uninstal the useless applications that came with it without whiping the entire phone.
The new update is fine and dandy, but It clears the whole phone, so eveyr thign I have installed and set i have to redo just to get an upgrade, totaly idiotic in my mind. If its a OS update, then it should only effect the OS backround files not reset the total system.
Backing up contact. Sims only store 250 contact. I have over 300 so I have many on my phone it self, to copy the entire phone book to memory card, i have to do it one by one. Yes I know I can instal an app for it, but should I really have to? thats should be a basic app. Syncing with your computer, requires you to have email set up in outlook, I dont use out look, so I have to go through all that troube just to get that done.
In my house, my nokia has full signal at all times, with this new bad boy phone i barly get one bar if I am lucky.
Just simple little things which should be an automacit features on phones are missing here. I dont get the thinking behind that.
To the person who did the car analogy. Would you buy a expensive car if you had to install the breaks you self after purchase.. Oh you want a rear veiw mirror? here is a mirror, and some glue go have fun? no you would not, you would expect all functions to be there.
The phone doesnt even allow you to control how you view your contacts for crying out loud, I had to D/L an app to set if i want to view first name/ last name, vs the default last name first name. That is just bad.
Out side of a big shiny screen that eats ur batery life in one day and the camera.. nothing special.
just my two cents
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Would you buy a car knowing that it does not come with certain features or does not perform the way you want it to? Or do you just buy any car expecting all of them to come with features just because a car of another brand had them? There is a reason why it's better to lease a BMW than buying it.
It seems like you're the average joe that bought into the hype not knowing what Windows Mobile is.
Don't come crying just because the phone was not what you expected it to be. Do your homework next time before making a purchase.
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A better analogy is you are buying a stock BMW and expecting it to drive like a F1 race car. Fact is, you have to add certain available add-ons to make it into a M5-ish car with the type of race tires you want and the suspension your driving habits need.
So, basically, I am living in israel for a year so I can have a year of grade-free religious studies and not have to worry about my gpa or take tests. The only problem is that Cell phone selection is pretty crappy.
So I went onto ebay and bought a G2 that shipped to my parents place and a buddy of mine was supposed to bring it to me tomorow but I found out today that I have the hinge problem pretty bad. (my dad showed it to me via skype)
I contacted HTC and they said I am still under warranty but they may not even replace the phone if I send it it. I can get my parents to bring it to a local repair shop and get them to just fix the spring, but the only problem with that is that they may not know what they are doing with the g2 as it is a new phone.
Normally it wouldnt be an issue to just send it it to HTC but the next time a friend is coming in from the states is early january and I don't want to have to wait that long for a phone that may not even get repaired...what would you do?
p.s. I also happen to have a friend here in israel, and although he is not proffesionally trained, he has opened up many an HTC phone. can anyone who has done the spring fix themeselves tell me if it is a particularly hard operation to do on the phone? When you are done doing it does the phone show any sign of being opened to the untrained eye? Sorry about the long post
mountain out of a molehill, you are making, my friend.
get the phone and stick with it. Your dad may not realize that this is normal for the phone.
Get the phone over to the promised land now... and then if you are so unhappy with it... fix it yourself using a thread on how to repair your own hinge on this here XDA Forums!
todah!
Thanks for the reply one thing I noticed when he showed me the phone was that it was almost exactly the same problem as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvHE5lZ1tCs in that the screen is a little wobly after the keyboard is deployed. Is that also normal?
Thanks for the quick response!
Durkbeef said:
Thanks for the reply one thing I noticed when he showed me the phone was that it was almost exactly the same problem as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvHE5lZ1tCs in that the screen is a little wobly after the keyboard is deployed. Is that also normal?
Thanks for the quick response!
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its normal. Its basically a non issue. I think people just expected it to be rock solid like its predecessor the G1. A lot of people took it way out of context and basically caused such a ruckus over this...
anything with hinges.. is going to be a little free to move around because.. its on hinges!!!
unless the hinges are broken theres no problem with this phone. I mean.. its not for the construction worker or for people who dont have the time or energy to treat it with some respect.. its not exactly a wimp either...
You can always tighten it up a bit to give it more "snap"...
Also.. you will find that your need for the keyboard is not as great as you think... because of the capability for voice commands and the incredible swype and gingerbread keyboards on this --- its so intuitive I rarely need the keyboard anymore.
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its normal. Its basically a non issue. I think people just expected it to be rock solid like its predecessor the G1. A lot of people took it way out of context and basically caused such a ruckus over this...
anything with hinges.. is going to be a little free to move around because.. its on hinges!!!
unless the hinges are broken theres no problem with this phone. I mean.. its not for the construction worker or for people who dont have the time or energy to treat it with some respect.. its not exactly a wimp either...
You can always tighten it up a bit to give it more "snap"...
Also.. you will find that your need for the keyboard is not as great as you think... because of the capability for voice commands and the incredible swype and gingerbread keyboards on this --- its so intuitive I rarely need the keyboard anymore.
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+1 for the keyboard, i only use mine for long text messages or emails, otherwise i use swype/HTC IME keyboard.
I wasn't happy with mine at first but now I don't even notice it.
Agree with androidcues on the fact that people are making waaay more of a big deal about the hinge than it really is.
The things that are shown in the video linked above, or similar ones (like the phone opening while holding it upside down), would never even be noticed by most people. While I wish the hinge design would stay closed a little more "firmly", its an extremely minor criticism. I still quite like the design, and the general build quality of the phone is excellent.
I'm not as concerned about the loose hinge as I am about the fact that it wobbles after the keyboard is deployed
Durkbeef said:
I'm not as concerned about the loose hinge as I am about the fact that it wobbles after the keyboard is deployed
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This again, as stated earlier is really a non-issue if you are normal and take care of your phone. HOWEVER, if you throw your phone around, like to sit on it, or work construction where your phone goes through hell each day, this WOULD be a problem. Personally, i dont understand how some people take such poor care of their phones .
Durkbeef said:
I'm not as concerned about the loose hinge as I am about the fact that it wobbles after the keyboard is deployed
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The things the guys is doing in the Youtube video you posted, you and every other other normal person will never do in regular use. The way he is pressing the bottom edge of the screen with the keyboard deployed, or bending the top, there is no sane reason for you to ever do those things. Its just a nitpicky point discovered by somebody looking for problems where there aren't really any.
Its a self fulfilling prophecy. Like a hypochondriac surfing WebMD, the more of this stuff you read or watch, the more you are likely to find a "problem". Stop sweating it, and wait until you have it in your hands. If it really feels like its defective, then send it to HTC. You have full warranty for a year from the manufacturer, I believe.
long story short, your phone is fine, a little give in the hinge is normal.
get that beautiful piece of art to you, root it, and live it up my friend
redpoint73 said:
The things the guys is doing in the Youtube video you posted, you and every other other normal person will never do in regular use. The way he is pressing the bottom edge of the screen with the keyboard deployed, or bending the top, there is no sane reason for you to ever do those things. Its just a nitpicky point discovered by somebody looking for problems where there aren't really any.
Its a self fulfilling prophecy. Like a hypochondriac surfing WebMD, the more of this stuff you read or watch, the more you are likely to find a "problem". Stop sweating it, and wait until you have it in your hands. If it really feels like its defective, then send it to HTC. You have full warranty for a year from the manufacturer, I believe.
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very well said. a perfect summary of the illusion of the issue.
Thanks for the heads up guys, I think the current plan is to get the phone to me and if it really bothers me, I'll give it to my friend for surgery, I remember seeing somewhere you could buy some of those warranty is now void stickers to put on the phone to make it look like you never touched it... Can someone give me a link?
Htc will check your phone and determine whether you have voided the warranty. But...I'm betting you'll be voiding it anyhow. Just send it back the way you found it. Document recovery hboot info etc so you can find the files to flash when and if u need to. But you shouldn't and lmfao at a 'sticker'
vision...
hello xda,
i am a huge android fan and i bought this tablet the first day it was available in my country, but am am very very disappointed: it doesn't stop freezing, when i take a photo it will freeze 1/2 times, the screen takes around 5 sec to turn on, rotating takes very long time, sometimes it freezes with a very strange sound coming from the speakers, ect ect ect
i cant trust this tablet: when i am writing a message on a forum i will freeze and restart (maybe the keyboard freezes) i have to save my message a few times into google keep to be sure i don't lose my work. i could throw this out of my window. i hope android 5.0 will fix all these problems, otherwise i will sell it.
are you guys experiencing the same problems ? , i know many of you are hiding them that's what i did in the beginning, otherwise my friends (who are all apple fanboys) would laugh at me.
i am fed up with this thing, do anybody know how to fix all these problems ? if these problems can only be solved with a factory reset, its better for me that i sell it.
is anyone interested ? i can send it to anyone living in europe.
greetings,
inse
insevanhouts said:
i know many of you are hiding them
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lol. No we aren't
insevanhouts said:
hello xda,
i am a huge android fan and i bought this tablet the first day it was available in my country, but am am very very disappointed: it doesn't stop freezing, when i take a photo it will freeze 1/2 times, the screen takes around 5 sec to turn on, rotating takes very long time, sometimes it freezes with a very strange sound coming from the speakers, ect ect ect
i cant trust this tablet: when i am writing a message on a forum i will freeze and restart (maybe the keyboard freezes) i have to save my message a few times into google keep to be sure i don't lose my work. i could throw this out of my window. i hope android 5.0 will fix all these problems, otherwise i will sell it.
are you guys experiencing the same problems ? , i know many of you are hiding them that's what i did in the beginning, otherwise my friends (who are all apple fanboys) would laugh at me.
i am fed up with this thing, do anybody know how to fix all these problems ? if these problems can only be solved with a factory reset, its better for me that i sell it.
is anyone interested ? i can send it to anyone living in europe.
greetings,
inse
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I didn't hide mine. Your power issue is a bad motherboard. YOu need to call Samsung and tell them its the PBA and you know it is- include a written note when you RMA, they WILL read it (even though my experience, despite having proof they've read these notes, with Samsung is still resoundingly negative). The only ones I've had as far as issues was a power issue and touch screen, the post-repair issues notwithstanding.
try to flash custom rom, and see if itll happen again
mine is solid as a rock
jamir5 said:
try to flash custom rom, and see if itll happen again
mine is solid as a rock
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This is not a fix. Any bit of electronic you buy should be usable out of the box.
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This is not a fix. Any bit of electronic you buy should be usable out of the box.
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In this case, I agree... RMA that shiz...mine ran great out of the box, and now with PUB AOKP it runs even better!
You should never need a custom ROM to make your tablet/phone usable... They should be there to make it better, not usable
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In this case, I agree... RMA that shiz...mine ran great out of the box, and now with PUB AOKP it runs even better!
You should never need a custom ROM to make your tablet/phone usable... They should be there to make it better, not usable
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You guys are right, should i send it back to google ? And will they put back all my app + data back ?
NickTheMajin said:
This is not a fix. Any bit of electronic you buy should be usable out of the box.
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Send from my lovely Sensation XL,
If I succeed helping you (rare) don't forget to hit the thanks button
Probably not... If you are rooted, you could use titanium backup to save all your apps and data though
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Probably not... If you are rooted, you could use titanium backup to save all your apps and data though
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Yes, but if i root my nexus 10, they wont repair it...
Send from my lovely Sensation XL,
If I succeed helping you (rare) don't forget to hit the thanks button
Rooting in NO WAY voids your warranty on the nexus 10...its kinda one of the reasons to get a nexus device...
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insevanhouts said:
Yes, but if i root my nexus 10, they wont repair it...
Send from my lovely Sensation XL,
If I succeed helping you (rare) don't forget to hit the thanks button
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