The video is not mine
Personally I'm ok with the results although i dissagree with his opinion on the looks of the Nexus One vs the blocky iPhone 4.
It's basically 15 minutes of talking with about 50 seconds of demo. Interesting that he has a rooted Nexus One but hasn't used it enough to be able to reliably hit the soft keys.
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It's basically 15 minutes of talking with about 50 seconds of demo. Interesting that he has a rooted Nexus One but hasn't used it enough to be able to reliably hit the soft keys.
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he said he is an iphone user and is just borrowing the nexus, but what makes you think its rooted?
hehe 7 months after the Nexus One and still the Nexus One keeps up!
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he said he is an iphone user and is just borrowing the nexus, but what makes you think its rooted?
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Superuser is in the menu.
He should have turned off the live wallpaper, froyo is so much quicker than the iphone lol it seems he made the home screen look as ugly as possible, who actually uses that clock..
All my mac loving friends complained when the nexus one came out that it only beats the iphone 3gs in speed because it was made later, now they are speechless
i like how he says the phone has big capasitivie button issues, mine are perfect? i hit them correctly and work every single time without fault?
and please, laggy pinch to zoom? How about turning off plugin's always on and switch to on demand so both web pages he compared didnt have flash, Pinch to zoom is smooth, not so much when u have 5 flash objects playing
Exactly how does navigation end in a draw? Does iPhone have turn by turn navigation?
I suppose he meant UI navigation, but nice that he skipped a key feature of Nexus One during the comparison process.
This weekend I had dinner with someone who had the iphone 4. She tried to show me the face talk feature. Of course, it didn't work because there was no wi fi. I offered to let her tether off my lowly N1 to demo it.
She was not amused.
In this video, we compare a 7 month old phone to one just released.
I didn't watch the video. I don't care. All i know is my phone doesn't lose reception when i hold it and i have a real homescreen.
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In this video, we compare a 7 month old phone to one just released.
I didn't watch the video. I don't care. All i know is my phone doesn't lose reception when i hold it and i have a real homescreen.
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When the Nexus one was released im pretty sure they compared it to the Iphone 3gs which at the time was about 7 months old.
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When the Nexus one was released im pretty sure they compared it to the Iphone 3gs which at the time was about 7 months old.
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yes but the Nexus One RAPED the 3GS, imo the iPhone 4 don't RAPE the Nexus One
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i like how he says the phone has big capasitivie button issues, mine are perfect? i hit them correctly and work every single time without fault?
and please, laggy pinch to zoom? How about turning off plugin's always on and switch to on demand so both web pages he compared didnt have flash, Pinch to zoom is smooth, not so much when u have 5 flash objects playing
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The multitouch buttons on my Nexus One (and I'm pretty sure all of them judging by what I've read) are finicky. There seems to be an exact spot you need to hit but it's much higher than you would think. It also causes the problem of accidentally triggering a button when you're doing something like typing on the keyboard. Really poor design choice in my opinion. You may hit yours correctly every single time, but there are tons of people who don't and using physical buttons would have made it register the press 100% correctly every single time.
I did leave a post on youtube mentioning that the sluggish zooming is due to having flash plugins on the page. I do think that would be worth mentioning in a comparison like this, but the other side of the argument is you need to make a product just work. If there are cases where the phone performs crappy then most users aren't going to care why it's happening.
I am impressed that even with flush plugins enabled the nexus one still loaded pages slightly faster than the iPhone4. Would be interesting to see the same thing without flash enabled on the Nexus One.
Jon4lakers is an idiot.
You just have to realize the audience (didn't watch the video) - when iphone users compare and contrast they don't, and won't be messing around with settings and features and tweaks and whatnot. This is not how iphone users operate, so they are going to compare how the phone works and feels out of the box. What's a boon to us may be a difficulty for them. Don't get me wrong here, as I'm not equating them to idiots who don't know a good thing and can't even operate a settings menu - I think many of them just want a simplified experience in ernest. Some of them take the defense of it a little too far (for example, if it lacks it, it doesn't need it mentality).
The capacitive buttons on the N1 suck and that's just the truth, just as there are issues with damn near every apple hardware in batches or runs that they will just deny and quietly admit to when the cycle is long over.
He didnt even mentioned the notification system, witch android kicks the **** out of the IOS. Aside the front facing camera, I think there's not 1 single real point that the iPhone 4 really beats the N1, and ya we are talking of a brand new phone againts a 7 months older phone hehe.
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after playing with my friend's iphone over the weekend, i can say that the screen resolution and the cameras are a lot better than the nexus one. notifications wise, all android phones will rape the iphone in that aspect.
in terms of using the phone, i found that the iphone 4 is just that much smoother when browsing through menus and screen and using apps.
but i have to say i'm still on 2.1 since there are no OTA updates for the epe54b users.
i just might get the iphone but that would of course depends on how well 2.2 works out for me.
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Superuser is in the menu.
He should have turned off the live wallpaper, froyo is so much quicker than the iphone lol it seems he made the home screen look as ugly as possible, who actually uses that clock..
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I use the android clock and it looks cool on mine
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i like how he says the phone has big capasitivie button issues, mine are perfect? i hit them correctly and work every single time without fault?
and please, laggy pinch to zoom? How about turning off plugin's always on and switch to on demand so both web pages he compared didnt have flash, Pinch to zoom is smooth, not so much when u have 5 flash objects playing
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This was exactly also how i thought. turn the flash off and see the zoom then you will see differents. this was the reason why i removed the flash, atleast till it works a little better.
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after playing with my friend's iphone over the weekend, i can say that the screen resolution and the cameras are a lot better than the nexus one. notifications wise, all android phones will rape the iphone in that aspect.
in terms of using the phone, i found that the iphone 4 is just that much smoother when browsing through menus and screen and using apps.
but i have to say i'm still on 2.1 since there are no OTA updates for the epe54b users.
i just might get the iphone but that would of course depends on how well 2.2 works out for me.
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there is a huge difference between 2.1 and 2.2 you will use it and love it
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yes but the Nexus One RAPED the 3GS, imo the iPhone 4 don't RAPE the Nexus One
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Very true. Give the iphone 4 a few more months and it will be behind every other phone the only thing it leads in now is the screen resolution.
I think since he was an 'iphone user' he was biased in a few rounds. Maybe I'm biased, but I think the Nexus was the clear winner.
I realize that to some, the front facing camera is a feature. To me it is a waste and if any phone I own had one, it would be covered with tape. I don't ever want a front facing camera.
To me, a front camera is actually a negative.
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yes but the Nexus One RAPED the 3GS, imo the iPhone 4 don't RAPE the Nexus One
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Who knows
Maybe Steve Jobs will release a $29 rubber band that not only dries glue real fast, change your skin's conductivity, plays flash and unlock your phone
i'm from Hong Kong..... and guess how much iPhone 4 is selling here
"early-bird" price (imported from US/UK as iPhone 4 is not yet available here) : $2400
You were like, huh????
YES, US DOLLARS DUDE
TWO THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED US DOLLAR
and everyone have to "just avoid holding it in that way"
how happy am i with my US529 Nexus One
It seemed like a pretty fair review coming from an iPhone user. You guys should be thankful to Apple. I would never own an Apple product(prefer linux), but would we even have Windows Phone 7 coming if the whole iEra didn't exist? Or would we still be stuck on 5.0 and beta Androids?
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hi all
my iphone 2G fell to the toilet and stoped working
should i get nexs 1 or iphone 3gs?
i went over all the posts here
and understood that the nexus has big problems in 3G and WIFI reception
screen sensitivity and other stuff
while the 3Gs - i need to jailbreak it every time again and again
and bluetooth is not open for everything and UI is kind of boring for me after 3 years
need an objective point of view on what to do
is anyone knows if SENSE UI is coming to the nexus soon? it might be the reasin to take it
thanks
Nexus One all the way.
I can say that objectively having come from 3GS.
Better UI, not treated like a child! Faster browser and OS response and now we have multitouch.
Haven't looked back. Only thing I miss is iphone TV catch-up.
in the long run the nexus is a better phone. there is more and more apps coming everyday.
the only thing i miss about my iPhone was all the cool games and apps. now that the nexus one has multi-touch as well. i would stick with the nexus.
anyways, apple should be coming out with a new iPhone in a bout 3-4 months. im thinking about getting one...just because..
-B
google came out w/ an update fixing the 3g/wifi issues.
10x
what about the music player?
3Gs vs. nexus or 3rd party music player for nexus?
The music player's nothing special, but there are plenty of alternatives. A lot of people here, including me, really like Acer's Nemo Player.
grainysand said:
The music player's nothing special, but there are plenty of alternatives. A lot of people here, including me, really like Acer's Nemo Player.
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@OP, why would you ask that question in a nexus forum where you will get a biased opinion?
i had an iphone 2g and 3g after owning a g1and mytouch and I had too come back to android. the phone may not be perfect but everyone has their preference and you need tho ask yourself what you prefer
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hi all
my iphone 2G fell to the toilet and stoped working
should i get nexs 1 or iphone 3gs?
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N1 all the way, there's no question here. Hardware is vastly superior and the software will only get better. The next gen iPhone is going to be announced sometime here, it might then be more comparable, but you're still locked in apples garden.
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i went over all the posts here
and understood that the nexus has big problems in 3G and WIFI reception
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I've not had a problem with either, and the patch 1 fixed most peoples issues as well. Seems to be some others with issues, but with unlocked rooted phones and other randomness going on its difficult to say what could be causing that, but I think the count is rather low, and likely more of a network issue.
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screen sensitivity and other stuff
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Screen can be a little sensitive, just have to keep your fingers away from the edges, I wouldn't say its a problem though. I also have no other issues, battery life is fantastic, phone is speedy
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while the 3Gs - i need to jailbreak it every time again and again and bluetooth is not open for everything and UI is kind of boring for me after 3 years
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I haven't felt a need to unlock and root my phone just yet. Maybe when FM tuner stuff gets released, or something more interesting comes out. I had tethering on my rooted g1, but I didn't use it all that often so.
Android is getting better all the time and fast. Plus with how customizable it is, I think you'll find you'll never get bored with the experience.
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anyone know if the SENSE UI is coming to the nexus soon? it might be the reason to take it
thanks
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Since the nexus is a "GOOGLE" phone and only manufactured by HTC, it will likely not get an official Sense UI rom. I don't like Sense personally, but thats just me.
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N1 all the way, there's no question here. Hardware is vastly superior and the software will only get better. The next gen iPhone is going to be announced sometime here, it might then be more comparable, but you're still locked in apples garden.
I've not had a problem with either, and the patch 1 fixed most peoples issues as well. Seems to be some others with issues, but with unlocked rooted phones and other randomness going on its difficult to say what could be causing that, but I think the count is rather low, and likely more of a network issue.
Screen can be a little sensitive, just have to keep your fingers away from the edges, I wouldn't say its a problem though. I also have no other issues, battery life is fantastic, phone is speedy
I haven't felt a need to unlock and root my phone just yet. Maybe when FM tuner stuff gets released, or something more interesting comes out. I had tethering on my rooted g1, but I didn't use it all that often so.
Android is getting better all the time and fast. Plus with how customizable it is, I think you'll find you'll never get bored with the experience.
Since the nexus is a "GOOGLE" phone and only manufactured by HTC, it will likely not get an official Sense UI rom. I don't like Sense personally, but thats just me.
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Sense UI will probably come in the form of a custom ROM actually and that would require root.
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hi all
is anyone knows if SENSE UI is coming to the nexus soon? it might be the reasin to take it
thanks
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The HTC Bravo will have Sense UI, so when that's out then I'm sure it'll get ported over to the Nexus.
firedup said:
Nexus One all the way.
I can say that objectively having come from 3GS.
Better UI, not treated like a child! Faster browser and OS response and now we have multitouch.
Haven't looked back. Only thing I miss is iphone TV catch-up.
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According to the TV Catchup forum there's an Android version in the works, plus there's rumors it'll have PVR functionality as well
iPhone is a phone with computing abilities.
Nexus is a computer with a phone app too.
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iPhone is a phone with computing abilities.
Nexus is a computer with a phone app too.
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Except the dropped calls and inferior call quality on the iPhone, amirite? Whatever else one may say in favor of iPhones, they are pretty terrible phones.
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Sense UI will probably come in the form of a custom ROM actually and that would require root.
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Yeah, I meant to touch on that. But I was omw to work.
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iPhone is a phone with computing abilities.
Nexus is a computer with a phone app too.
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this is the best way to describe the two phones...
In all seriousness...are you for real?
You are asking in a forum for Android, for Nexus One users...whether people here perfer the iPhone or the Nexus One....really?? And what did you expect that everyone was going to tell you to run out and buy an iPhone?
noammm said:
hi all
my iphone 2G fell to the toilet and stoped working
should i get nexs 1 or iphone 3gs?
i went over all the posts here
and understood that the nexus has big problems in 3G and WIFI reception
screen sensitivity and other stuff
while the 3Gs - i need to jailbreak it every time again and again
and bluetooth is not open for everything and UI is kind of boring for me after 3 years
need an objective point of view on what to do
is anyone knows if SENSE UI is coming to the nexus soon? it might be the reasin to take it
thanks
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Let it dry and it will work again.
I dropped my iPhone on the bottom of the lake for at least 2-3 minutes and it works fine. (It took almost a month for it to dry 100%)
Comment from Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux kernel
" But I have to admit, the Nexus One is a winner. I wasn't enthusiastic about buying a phone on the internet sight unseen, but the day it was reported that it finally had the pinch-to-zoom thing enabled, I decided to take the plunge. I've wanted to have a GPS unit for my car anyway, and I thought that google navigation might finally make a phone useful.
And it does. What a difference! I no longer feel like I'm dragging a phone with me "just in case" I would need to get in touch with somebody - now I'm having a useful (and admittedly pretty good-looking) gadget instead. The fact that you can use it as a phone too is kind of secondary. "
noammm said:
hi all
my iphone 2G fell to the toilet and stoped working
should i get nexs 1 or iphone 3gs?
i went over all the posts here
and understood that the nexus has big problems in 3G and WIFI reception
screen sensitivity and other stuff
while the 3Gs - i need to jailbreak it every time again and again
and bluetooth is not open for everything and UI is kind of boring for me after 3 years
need an objective point of view on what to do
is anyone knows if SENSE UI is coming to the nexus soon? it might be the reasin to take it
thanks
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Buying a 3GS today would be absolute stupidity, even taking the Nexus One out of the equation.
The iPhone 4Gwhatever will be out in a few months. If you really love your fruit, wait till then.
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" But I have to admit, the Nexus One is a winner. I wasn't enthusiastic about buying a phone on the internet sight unseen, but the day it was reported that it finally had the pinch-to-zoom thing enabled, I decided to take the plunge. I've wanted to have a GPS unit for my car anyway, and I thought that google navigation might finally make a phone useful.
And it does. What a difference! I no longer feel like I'm dragging a phone with me "just in case" I would need to get in touch with somebody - now I'm having a useful (and admittedly pretty good-looking) gadget instead. The fact that you can use it as a phone too is kind of secondary. "
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I read that and found it silly. The factor that stopped him from trying it out before was... the lack of pinch-to-zoom? Not the 3G problems or whatever, not things like dust under screen or soft speaker, not anything solid--it was the pinch-to-zoom? That's retarded.
So I'm going to be straight up with you guys... I (like many of you) have and many smartphones in the past. My last phone before the N1 was a iPhone 3G unlocked/jailbroken.
I loved the iPhone, however like most people I was fed up with not having background apps, Google Voice, and I really hate getting notifications on the iPhone... Yeah I jailbroke it so I could run apps in the background and get google voice, but it was still lacking. BUT it DID work, and worked so well than I rarely had to reset/reboot it. Also, the chance that an app you download will work is in the 99th percentile unlike Android apps.
BUT, I do love the N1... However I DO feel like every time I jump online and check out some of the websites (engadget, gizmodo, BRG, etc) I'm going to run across a new article putting shame on the N1... Today was one of those days regarding multitouch..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhUzq6bTPg&feature=player_embedded
other issues I have with the phone (STOCK ROM not unlocked) are:
-PDAnet won't work when I'm on a phone call, it seems like the phone drops to GPRS every fricken time! I've wiped my phone and ONLY installed PDA net to test it even
-Memory managment = with a iPhone you realistically never have to worry about memory regarding programs downloaded, Google needs to allow apps to SD card OUT OF THE BOX.
-Overall stability = I figure I have to reboot/reset my phone at least every other day due to it hanging up on something or just acting outright odd.. In my photo gallery it won't pull up some of my photos in full resolution, WTF~comon...
-Overall radio power = this phone just seems to suck ass with regards to getting a signal whether it's 3G or EDGE compared to most other phones.
So I'm hoping/thinking that the DESIRE might have some of these issues fixed. I'm really keeping an eye on it to see what transpires. So who's thinking the same???
I don't have my N1 yet, but if I don't have any issues - then I see no reason to ever switch to the Desire. I will, however, install the Desire ROM on my N1. So, I will have a NexusDesireOne lol. Everything on the Nexus One, plus Desire's Sense ~ that is good enough for me.
Given that I don't share any of your complaints, I don't care about the optical trackpad, and I very much like having 3G, I see no reason to switch to a Desire when it becomes available, especially since I'll be able to run its full ROM when it comes out (and the beta now).
Per your first point, for all of the bad press the Nexus One has received, I have not read a single bit of it that impacts my experience with the device. I was taken care of promptly when I called HTC to have my stock sleeve replaced, a radio update found here fixed my reception issues, my multitouch seems to be working just fine even if some developer found a way to make it look inferior to the Droid's implementation of it, and I could care less how many units Google moved.
The bottom line is what the phone does for YOU, and in my specific situation, it may very well be the best phone I've ever had.
I feel the same way, but it doesn't get around the multitouch issue and horrible radio signal issues.
I tell yeah, the one thing I was deathly scared of when I moved to the iPhone was typing on a touchscreen. But the iPhone keyboard rocks! To put it bluntly, the N1's keyboard is such garbage it's basically what I was expecting the iPhone to be like.
I think it's due to the lower quality touchscreen personally... I mean I see keys/letters getting pressed from the other side of the screen a LOT if I type fast...
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it may very well be the best phone I've ever had.
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What other phones HAVE you had?
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I feel the same way, but it doesn't get around the multitouch issue and horrible radio signal issues.
I tell yeah, the one thing I was deathly scared of when I moved to the iPhone was typing on a touchscreen. But the iPhone keyboard rocks! To put it bluntly, the N1's keyboard is such garbage it's basically what I was expecting the iPhone to be like.
I think it's due to the lower quality touchscreen personally... I mean I see keys/letters getting pressed from the other side of the screen a LOT if I type fast...
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I don;t have any of the problems you have.
My radio is workig fine.
I like the capacitive buttons on the N1. The Desire has a little more RAM which with my Cyanogen Kernel I don't think any more RAM is necesary. It's already overkill stock. Then throw Cyanogen on top of it and it's ridiculous how many apps I can have running. I had 49 apps running yesterday...that's retarded lol.
It has Sense UI which is nice but it's just software and can be built for the N1...Obviously.
Flash will be ready for N1 very very soon as mentioned by Adobe.
So there isn't really any reason to trade honestly.
People still complain about the radio issues but they fixed it when they released ERE27. I think people have munchausen syndrome. People have nothing to compare to, just complain. I have an N1, my cousin has an N1. My wife has my old MyTouch and I just sold my G1. I drove around Dallas, Texas with all three phones. No signal difference in the three. N1 dropped to Edge when the MyTouch did.
People don't understand that 3G coverage doesn't mean you're covered 100%, It means it's available in that area. If you lose signal then you get Edge.
What the hell for? It's the same hardware. I've got Sense on my N1 already. Plus, hardware buttons? Hideous. The only thing it has over the N1 is the trackpad, but that's all, not to mention that it lacks noise cancellation.
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Also, the chance that an app you download will work is in the 99th percentile unlike Android apps.
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All the apps I've ever downloaded work fine and do what they say on the tin.
BUT, I do love the N1... However I DO feel like every time I jump online and check out some of the websites (engadget, gizmodo, BRG, etc) I'm going to run across a new article putting shame on the N1... Today was one of those days regarding multitouch..
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And most of those are Apple fanboy sites. Particularly Gizmoduh and Boy Genius Retard. Your point?
-Memory managment = with a iPhone you realistically never have to worry about memory regarding programs downloaded, Google needs to allow apps to SD card OUT OF THE BOX.
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Cute, but if you jailbroke your iPhone I'm sure you wouldn't have qualms over rooting your Nexus. Apps2sd, the end.
-Overall stability = I figure I have to reboot/reset my phone at least every other day due to it hanging up on something or just acting outright odd.. In my photo gallery it won't pull up some of my photos in full resolution, WTF~comon...
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Huh? The only times I've had to reboot mine is when I'm flashing a new ROM and need to boot into recovery or whatever. Sounds like you're doing something fantastically wrong.
-Overall radio power = this phone just seems to suck ass with regards to getting a signal whether it's 3G or EDGE compared to most other phones.
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Flash ERE38 radio image. Done.
I think it's pretty funny reading the "outrage" of the multitouch thing.
uum, I've yet to even notice anything wrong.
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It's the same hardware.
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Not the same. It's similar. It has 64mb more RAM. Which I already stated my opinion on that a few posts prior to this one.
dumbestcrayon said:
I like the capacitive buttons on the N1.
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I prefer them to actual buttons.
At least thy can't wear out.
The buttons on my G1 were almost un-recognizable after 6 months.
tropmonky said:
I feel the same way, but it doesn't get around the multitouch issue and horrible radio signal issues.
I tell yeah, the one thing I was deathly scared of when I moved to the iPhone was typing on a touchscreen. But the iPhone keyboard rocks! To put it bluntly, the N1's keyboard is such garbage it's basically what I was expecting the iPhone to be like.
I think it's due to the lower quality touchscreen personally... I mean I see keys/letters getting pressed from the other side of the screen a LOT if I type fast...
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Please explain your "MultiTouch" issue because I have absolutely none. It's 100% responsive to everything I do with an instant response time. What are you trying to do with it?
tropmonky said:
I feel the same way, but it doesn't get around the multitouch issue and horrible radio signal issues.
I tell yeah, the one thing I was deathly scared of when I moved to the iPhone was typing on a touchscreen. But the iPhone keyboard rocks! To put it bluntly, the N1's keyboard is such garbage it's basically what I was expecting the iPhone to be like.
I think it's due to the lower quality touchscreen personally... I mean I see keys/letters getting pressed from the other side of the screen a LOT if I type fast...
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So... use Swype?
Tropmonky is sounding more and more like a stray Apple fanboy
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What other phones HAVE you had?
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The one's that have mattered in the past few years start with the N95 (almost all versions of them), almost every high-end Symbian device to come out like the N97, i8910, etc., all three iPhone variants, and a few others in between.
With the exception of the lack of multimedia capabilities, the Nexus One has been my favorite. The i8910 was a close second specifically because of its multimedia capabilities.
i would not swap my N1. the desire lacks the noise cancelling mic. it has more ram but thats because it needs it to run sense ui. the nexus works perfectly and as someoo]ne mentioned above, every one of those sites u mentioned is a totally biased apple fanboi site- esp. engadget- i have lost all respect of them only reporting half a story and putting pro apple spins on everything.
i have perfect reception. as for MT i am not sure whatt the problem is- works perfectly for me.
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That's what I thought from the start. Whatever problems your average Nexus may have, having to reboot/reset constantly isn't one of them. ***** please, it's a *nix-based OS. Not saying everything Linux/*nix is a gift from god--I use Windows myself, being a gamer, and enjoy Win7 just fine--but Android is pretty damn stable. It's not a BB, here.
The Multitouch issue is a bug in the Sensor or driver that gives wrong positions under certain conditions. It seems to be a bug in all N1. It's not such a big deal if you don't play certain games but it's a bit annoying to know that it is there. The unfortunate thing is that I'm 100% sure that the Desire would have the same Screen with the same sensors and therefore the same bug.
The other things aren't such a big deal for me, or I never had any problems with it.
A lot of people complain about the reception, but coming from a blackberry bold, ERE27 is great. We have a tin roof, and no one could call me when i was at home on my BB.
I might do it if the 3G issue is not fixed. But so far google is being to send out replacements..
If I have a stock N1 can I flash the ERE38 without rooting?
So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.
lostinbeta said:
So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.
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they're both amazing.
the nexus one is great. features and all. but after like three months, you kinda want your iphone back.. or i do at least.
depending on the 4th Generation iPhone, i may upgrade.
for the time being though, i LOVE my nexus one..
buy it if you are having any doubts. you wont be sorry.
all those issues only apply to a select few or to people that have major ocd..i did like my iphone but i didnt love it..i love my nexus one its a really great phone..i love that i can use it to tether too my laptop, use it as BRIGHT flash light, customize it too my liking, and not having to deal with iphone.
The one thing i did miss when i went back to android from my iphone was the games..iphone games are really really nice but that feeling has gone away since now alot of the 3d games on the iphone are being made for android.
the iphone is a great phone but the UI is sooooooooooo boring..i hated that 4x4 icon page on it.i love having widgets
so to sum it all up get a nexus one......and a ipad ahah
That's kind of my worry. I don't have that kind of money to throw around every couple of months, I don't want to invest all that money and in a couple of months just be jealous of all my friends with iPhones. But it is nice to hear you love your N1, the only apple fanboy thing I'm into is their operating system, anything outside of that I'm not really a huge fan of Apple (I stuck with WinMo just because I could customize it without hassle, unlike the iPhone which is a risk to brick every time you jailbreak it and there's a firmware update)
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That's kind of my worry. I don't have that kind of money to throw around every couple of months, I don't want to invest all that money and in a couple of months just be jealous of all my friends with iPhones. But it is nice to hear you love your N1, the only apple fanboy thing I'm into is their operating system, anything outside of that I'm not really a huge fan of Apple (I stuck with WinMo just because I could customize it without hassle, unlike the iPhone which is a risk to brick every time you jailbreak it and there's a firmware update)
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ya i love my macbook its the best thing that ever happened to me ahah..and honestly the chance of bricking and iphone while jailbreaking is slim to none but its a pain when apple is constantly sending you updates to unjailbreak it..trust me you will not be jealous of their iphones
bobdude5 said:
all those issues only apply to a select few or to people that have major ocd..i did like my iphone but i didnt love it..i love my nexus one its a really great phone..i love that i can use it to tether too my laptop, use it as BRIGHT flash light, customize it too my liking, and not having to deal with iphone.
The one thing i did miss when i went back to android from my iphone was the games..iphone games are really really nice but that feeling has gone away since now alot of the 3d games on the iphone are being made for android.
the iphone is a great phone but the UI is sooooooooooo boring..i hated that 4x4 icon page on it.i love having widgets
so to sum it all up get a nexus one......and a ipad ahah
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Awesome note with the games though, I don't play games on my phone much (sadly I'm horribly addicted to solitaire...haha) so I never really got into the games aspect, I only have one or two on my iPod Touch, most of the time I use the basic Apps which are also available on Android (twitter, facebook, shazaam, things like that). So that's a good thing to keep in mind.
I think one of my biggest worries is battery life. I don't work a job where I can charge my phone at all throughout the day, and there are times I leave at 8am and don't get home until 7pm or later, and I don't want to have to worry that my phone won't make it. My WinMo phone always ends at around 60% with standard/moderate use so I never have to worry about running home to get a charge if I get hung up after work.
idk man, by far the best phone i have ever owned so far. (may be contradicting to what i just said but i literally do not care)
features list is just BOOM!
battery is amazing for me. no dead pixels. saturated screen. bright flashlight (nexus one torch).. idk so many to list.
if you wanna buy RIGHT NOW. go for the nexus one,
but
if you can wait til July...... wait. becuase you may regret it if you dont have the money to buy the newest badass thing, like maybe the 4Gen iPhone, and new product from HTC, or anyone... really its all so hard to tell but if you can wait, i think that'd be in your best interest.
and the only thing i miss about the iphone thats slowly sucking me back in (happens about twice a year, ive owned all the iphones and sold them too haha) is the slickkkkkk UI. the LARGE community and the apps that actually work clean, and flawlessly. the iphones' transition between homescreens is definitely smooth as butter. nexus one? smooth as sand paper.. the ability to take screen shots on the iphone with ease... idk.. haha
nexus one last me a whole a day with heavy usage (texting, internet, games, music, calling) i disagree with the slick UI..iphone has a HORRIBLE UI in my opinion its too plain and transition is just as smooth..the community for android is also huge and screenshots is easy too..just shake the phone (shootme app on market)
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nexus one last me a whole a day with heavy usage (texting, internet, games, music, calling) i disagree with the slick UI..iphone has a HORRIBLE UI in my opinion its too plain and transition is just as smooth..the community for android is also huge and screenshots is easy too..just shake the phone (shootme app on market)
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slick as in quick and easy i guess?
and my nexus easily lasts me 1.5+ days under HEAVY usage.
cool i didnt know about that app! thanks!
although you dont need an app for the iphone haha
lol well i never really got a chance to test past 1.5 days lol i charge it when im go to bed but it usually has 40 percent at the time ( i got to bed like at 1-2 am lol)
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lol well i never really got a chance to test past 1.5 days lol i charge it when im go to bed but it usually has 40 percent at the time ( i got to bed like at 1-2 am lol)
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i totally agree.. just one night i forgot to plug it in. died later that day though (didnt necessarily let it "die" i just shut it off at like 2%)
My phone is simply perfect. No issues whatsoever, apparently I am one of the lucky Nexus owners. The only thing though, I do like about the iPhone more - is the UI polish. Apple is simply great at designing things. I'm ok though, as long as I have a Desire ROM. HTC Sense is quite nice.
Youll be happy with the nexus. It is great now and stands to realize much of its latent potential if Google wants it to. If you've had an iPhone you will definitely be disappointed in the touch screen. It's possible though that Android might be able to iron out some of the jittery, jumpiness of the nexus touch screen. But its a decent screen,those who have never used an iPhone think the nexus has the best touch screen there is so its definitely not a deal breaker.
Also, the nexus has higher resolution but I don't think there's and denying that the iPhone just looks crisper, especially the browser. But the nexus gpu definitely loads pages faster. I think I'm just rambling now...
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Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
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Multitasking
The fact that it's unique and NOT an iPhone that everyone and their mother has
Customization
Live wallpapers
High resolution (2.5 times the iPhone)
Flash Lite
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Also, the nexus has higher resolution but I don't think there's and denying that the iPhone just looks crisper, especially the browser.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, what?
No denying that? I 10000% heartily deny that. Disagree to the nth power.
lostinbeta said:
So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.
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It all comes down to your personal preference. You can read all types of reviews and you'll see that Nexus One wins over iPhone 3GS. The features of the phone are outstanding. Just ask yourself what you want in your phone. If you want lots of applications, music, go for iPhone but if you want free applications, customizations, widgets, great camera, blazing fast web experience, go for Nexus One. Its just a matter of time before android applications touch the mark set by iPhone. Once you root your Nexus One, its going to be a whole world of possibilities....
For the issues you read about Nexus One, I want to tell you that the tinted screen is only present in the newer devices which would be very soon fixed by an update. The capacitive buttons work perfectly when pressed on the upper half of the button. The dust problem is present in a very small no. or hardwares and if you live in US, then you can call for a replacement if it happens with you.
Android would very soon be taken up by most of the mobile makers as its open sourced and free. I read somewhere that the phone companies who have taken up android OS have to pay very little in comparison to Windows Mobile.
So go for Nexus One, you wont be sorry....
Here's what I wrote in another forum regarding this question:
Having thought about it I realised that the choice to go for an N1 is easy if it fits your needs. Since it has been released all the focus has been on how it compares to the iphone. Understandable as apple set a high bar with many features such as the apps, the graphical physics and ease of use. The n1 more or less matches them and comparing many of these features doesn't get you far. They both are fantastic bits of hardware, great screens, amazing computing power, touchscreens etc. In some ways the N1 performs a bit better in others the iphone but the differences between them are small.
However I think the N1 has gone to a new level with features the iphone simply hasn't got. I don't have to open an app to access the information I want. My calender, agenda, weather, news, daily Bible reading, personal photo's, music player (and playlists) one touch dialling to favourite contacts (and many other thing I don't use) all run on my home pages. And here's where it moves mobile information on; all these widgets update automatically and wirelessly. I don't have to plug my phone into my computer to update my agenda, it happen without hassle right onto my homescreen. Furthermore these services are free - and yes I did pay for mobile me and no its not worth it.
Bottom line is that both the iphone and the N1 are great bits of kit, you won't notice many gains in function between either hardware as far as I can tell but the software has moved on from simply apps. Unfortunately the press just focus on the things that you can compare but the how can you compare widget on a N1 to nothing on the iphone? The N1 is in a different class to the iphone because it does things the iphone can't dream of doing, try to keep up apple!
Thank You everybody. Your advice has been helpful. I actually feel that the Android UI is nicer than the iPhone, to me the iPhone seems plain. Though I will admit that the iPhone is probably a little more user friendly, I don't mind the extra clicks on Android, and it's not like it's difficult to figure out by any stretch of the means. And it's good to know that the issues people are having are only occurring in a small percentage of devices, I was really worried that I would throw down that kind of money and have a jacked phone that only lasted me half a day and had a dusty mis-tinted screen...haha. Hopefully I'll be able to get my N1 ordered by the end of this month.
The next step would be rooting. I don't think I'll root it until after the warranty is up, but I don't know, I said the same thing about ROMing my FUZE and that didn't happen. Though on an unrelated question, how come so many N1 ROM threads don't have screenshots of the ROM. The ShootMe app works great, I use it on my FUZE with Eclair. It just seems like a big risk to install a ROM without knowing what you're supposed to be getting.
actually its less clicks for android lol you know with the widgets and all..with the iphone it takes four clicks to modify your brightness for android it takes one, it takes 3 clicks to turn on wifi and bluetooth on iphone and on android it takes one, it takes 4 clicks for gps on iphone and android 1, it takes 3 clicks to post something on facebook and 1 on android (same for myspace), it takes takes 2 clicks to search on iphone and none on android..you see my point lol
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The next step would be rooting. I don't think I'll root it until after the warranty is up, but I don't know, I said the same thing about ROMing my FUZE and that didn't happen. Though on an unrelated question, how come so many N1 ROM threads don't have screenshots of the ROM. The ShootMe app works great, I use it on my FUZE with Eclair. It just seems like a big risk to install a ROM without knowing what you're supposed to be getting.
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Warranty is 1 year, you will get hot feet by then. There should be desire screenshots around. CyanogenMod's UI is identical to stock, extra features being the selling point.
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slick as in quick and easy i guess?
and my nexus easily lasts me 1.5+ days under HEAVY usage.
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Are you running on the HTC Li-Ion battery or some new U-235 battery?
The Nexus One is great. I don't have complaints so far other than the tiny loudspeaker. Heard that the Desire ROM gives it a louder volume. Anyway, like someone has pointed out, if you can wait until June, I would wait. I think Apple sees the Android OS as a thread so they must be building something big for the iphone 4Gen. The iphone 4Gen will probably be better the Nexus One... BUT I am confident that the Nexus Two or whatever Google wants to release in the future will take over eventually
Not saying the Nexus One will lose to the 4Gen for sure. Remember FroYo and Flash 10 are coming to the Nexus One.
I've been an iPhone user since the very first one and i enjoyed the experience a lot.
About 2 weeks ago I switched to Android in the face of the Nexus One. Fiddled with it a bit, rooted, CM, now froyo etc. I really really like the Android. It has got its flaws, but boy does it deliver.
The hardware though, i am not really sure about. iPhone 3GS feels a lot more responsive. I can type twice as fast. Touch screen on Nexus just plain sucks. OLED is really nice, but what good is it if i cant use it properly.
It really bugs me. iPhone just looks like an old phone compared to Nexus, but the screen responsiveness drives me nuts. Its ok, i CAN type, but the experience is just so much better on the older iPhone.
Obvious specs are amazing, but the devil is in the details. And in the details it doesnt look like Google partners can deliver solid hardware to match solid software.
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the nexus one a fantastic phone is already 6 months old, its no surprise that it has already been surpassed by its competition. and more then likely another android phone perhaps the new string of droids will utterly surpass the new iphone, and the cycle will continue. No piece of tech is top dog forever, and at the speed that android is moving im surprised the nexus one still beats the increadible and evo in most fields. when it comes down to it, all that matters is which you are happier with, if the only thing pulling you to the iphone is the touch screen you will have to weight it and see how much it means to you
I can only type as fast as my fingers will go, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
Re: Screen: Nexus vs iPhone
I have the same feeling. The only thing bad about the nexus one is actually the screen. Everything else is great.
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welcome to technology
the nexus one a fantastic phone is already 6 months old, its no surprise that it has already been surpassed by its competition. and more then likely another android phone perhaps the new string of droids will utterly surpass the new iphone, and the cycle will continue. No piece of tech is top dog forever, and at the speed that android is moving im surprised the nexus one still beats the increadible and evo in most fields. when it comes down to it, all that matters is which you are happier with, if the only thing pulling you to the iphone is the touch screen you will have to weight it and see how much it means to you
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Absolutely But its just what reaver said.....
arcticreaver said:
I have the same feeling. The only thing bad about the nexus one is actually the screen. Everything else is great.
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You interact with the phone via display. And nexus is just sooooo freakin good, but got this majot flaw
Major Flaw?
So over the top.
Henchman said:
I can only type as fast as my fingers will go, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Use dictionary a lot? I type mostly in russian, and that doesnt have any custom dictionaries.
Take a gander at this: pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/06/27/iphone-keyboard-secrets/ (stick http whatever whatever in front)
Specifically this part:
* Although you don’t see it with your eyes, the sizes of the keys on the iPhone keyboard are changing all the time. That is, the software enlarges the “landing area” of certain keys, based on probability.
For example, supposed you type “tim.” Now, the iPhone knows that no word in the language begins timw or timr—and so, invisibly, it enlarges the “landing area” of the E key, which greatly diminishes your chances of making a typo on that last letter. Very cool.
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This is why the iphone keyboard is so "accurate" that people can type fast on it. For functionality like this on your N1 try downloading the app ThickButtons from the market.
But yes, I agree that the screen on the N1 can be more responsive Froyo made a lot of things better, but screen responsiveness was not one of them. I find myself tapping the same button twice more often and Swype registering a tap when it should be registering me holding down a letter. But I'm not worried since what I have is just a test version.
I've found that the auto-correct and prediction on the stock android keyboard much much better than the iPhone 3gs's so while the screen on my nexus may not be as responsive (I've not noticed) I type much faster on my N1.
Yeah, I would recommend trying a few different keyboards in the market. It isn't the screen responsiveness that is holding you back, it is the keyboard. I don't believe the stock keyboard even supports multitouch, while a few in the market do. So if you are typing fast, it can confuse the keyboard when both your fingers are touching.
What about Swype? I hear that's supposed to be a nice input method.
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the nexus one a fantastic phone is already 6 months old, its no surprise that it has already been surpassed by its competition.
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WTF are you talking about? He is comparing it to an iphone 3GS. That is almost a year old.
I switched from an iphone 3G which is nearly two years old and also noticed it was much better at detecting proper key presses and felt smoother when scrolling between home screens.
The home screen thing seems much improved with froyo and ADW Launcher, but the keyboard still seems crappy. I'm using the swype beta now and that is pretty good. It does suck to go back to a 2 year old phone and feel it is more responsive.
I will say though that things like launching apps and surfing the web are soooooo much better on my nexus one.
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WTF are you talking about? He is comparing it to an iphone 3GS. That is almost a year old.
I switched from an iphone 3G which is nearly two years old and also noticed it was much better at detecting proper key presses and felt smoother when scrolling between home screens.
The home screen thing seems much improved with froyo and ADW Launcher, but the keyboard still seems crappy. I'm using the swype beta now and that is pretty good. It does suck to go back to a 2 year old phone and feel it is more responsive.
I will say though that things like launching apps and surfing the web are soooooo much better on my nexus one.
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I was assuming that if he were to go back to apple it would have been a iphone 4, so i was retroactively comparing the iphone 4 to the nexus one, even though he is used to the 3gs
Yes.. the Synaptics ClearPad 2000 hardware is somewhat crappy. HTC was foolish to use it, but it works fine for my uses. Plus I would take my Android with FroYo on a phone that looks as sexy as my N1 anyday.
And in the future, HTC is going to use Synaptics Clearpad 3000 hardware, which according to reviews and videos, is AMAZING.
While we're nit-picking, I notice I get a bit of dust in the battery compartment - something I've never encountered with my girlfriend's iPhone 3G.
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While we're nit-picking, I notice I get a bit of dust in the battery compartment - something I've never encountered with my girlfriend's iPhone 3G.
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yeah i know and all these extra buttons on the phone make it easier to accidentally hit something, never had that problem on my old one button iphone 2g.
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yeah i know and all these extra buttons on the phone make it easier to accidentally hit something, never had that problem on my old one button iphone 2g.
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And I hear there is pretty significant battery drain if you are viewing Desktop versions of websites featuring a lot of Flash content while you're playing music off of the expandable SD card while also using Google Maps to navigate in between checking news and weather using another application....
Google really needs to get their act together.
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And I hear there is pretty significant battery drain if you are viewing Desktop versions of websites featuring a lot of Flash content while you're playing music off of the expandable SD card while also using Google Maps to navigate in between checking news and weather using another application....
Google really needs to get their act together.
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And these damn desktop screens. All these widgets and applications make is so damn cluttered it might as well be my closet.
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And these damn desktop screens. All these widgets and applications make is so damn cluttered it might as well be my closet.
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And why the hell would I want to be able to customize my background?
Life would be so much easier if I didn't have these options.
Jeez all these options make me want to sell the damn Nexus, i don't want choice, wich iphone shall i buy a 16Gb/32Gb/64Gb? Or shall i wait for the iPhone 4? Pff to much options at the Applecamp i think i stay, my brain hurts cause i think to much
What are some ways you can compare a nexus to iPhone in real life?
Which aspects of the N4 do you think are better than the iPhone?
My friends are deluded and seem to be going by just looks, how do I show them the N4 is more than what they think it is?
Show them this maybe.
http://gizmodo.com/5973073/an-iphone-lovers-confession-i-switched-to-the-nexus-4-completely
Then again anyone who has used both a lot will say that they are somewhat close to each other. They're both incredible phones and to be honest, anyone who says the iPhone is a lot better is just biased , and vice versa with people claiming the nexus 4 is a lot better. Both phones are somewhat close and it ends up falling on personal preference.
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Just by looks? The N4 wins that by far imo.
Anyways I've always wondered but couldn't find any solid information, what is the screen on time of an iPhone 5? If anyone knows..
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Just by looks? The N4 wins that by far imo.
Anyways I've always wondered but couldn't find any solid information, what is the screen on time of an iPhone 5? If anyone knows..
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In all the tests I've seen (yet), the iPhone always beats other smartphones in terms of battery life. The difference isn't night and day, but the iPhone probably lasts around 1/4 or 1/3 longer than most smartphones.
With the Nexus 4 looking freaking incredible, looks isn't an argument anymore. The iPhone also has a very nice design, but what I hate is that they don't really change it. I have the same criticism towars Google by the way. It's a shame that the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4 look so similar at the front. But that's only one time, and the back IS different (and nicer), so at least I have a feeling it has changed. Apple changes too, but not as much as other companies.
Where the Nexus 4 really shines though is the OS. It's just a fact that you can do a whole of a lot more with Android. A whole lot more. Advantage of iOS is that it's fast(er) and intuitive. However, this gapp is gradually being closed as the Nexus 4 has virtually no lag at all, at least not really more than the iPhone. Some OS features do still lag though, even though the hardware is good enough to take care of them, which kind of sucks. As for intuitifity (is that a word?), in my opinion Android is not really any worse, and some would argue it's better. Things like having all your downloaded apps integrated (as stated in the gizmodo article above) is just better.
If you are going to tweak around with custom ROMs I wouldn't even doubt a second. The N4 has the price going for it (really, how can one not see that? The iPhone is twice as expensive, and it's certainly not twice as good), it has Android (which means tweaking, if you're into that), and now that the hardware is fast and Android became mature, it's also fast and intuitive without having to tweak around.
Have both. While the iPhone is going back (merely because it is equally good but far more expensive), it is in my opinion the better looking device, definitely the more premium device, and iOS is still a little smoother, faster, and more consistent and refined than Android is at the moment. Google know Android has a way to go yet in terms of fit and finish, but in terms of features and flexibility, it is currently the market leader. And it is crystal clear that Google are heading in the right direction - ICS and JB were massive steps forward over what were pretty poor predecessors.
Which I prefer? Honestly, if I was given either I'd be chuffed. The iPhone's hardware is far superior, but I do feel that Android's multitasking makes it for me.
Battery life...Nexus 4 would get around 6 hours of screen on time browsing over Wi-Fi, iPhone, around 9. Very vague I know, but it's a rough estimate. Over 3G, about the same; the iPhone 5 doesn't seem to hold onto its power on standby well at all.
How to convince your friends? I wouldn't. Let them play, let them judge based on the price tag.
iPhone: Faster, smoother, noticeably better cameras, noticeably better battery life, higher quality apps, less things to fix or workaround, much easier to use one handed (and I have large hands), much easier to back up, better build quality, significantly more choices in app and accessory ecosystem.
Nexus: Dramatically cheaper to own and use! Open - off contract, more customizable, widgets, accessible file system, more options for how to do things for the most part. It has a bigger display as well, but it gets in the way of one handed operation.
I like my Nexus 4 a lot, but if the iPhone was $350 and $30-50/month, it would be a tough decision to still go with the Nexus 4. I might, as I really like the usability and customizability of widgets and software like tasker and other utils, and being able access/stream/copy files to/from my network is really liberating. But there are still many rough edges to Android that don't exist with iOS.
If your friends are tinkerers and problem solvers Android is best. If they are not, and want the best user experience, let them keep their iPhones.
iOS: high end device with latest technology right out of the box, for people that don't understand or doesn't like to tweak their devices.
Android: high end device with latest technology right out of the box, for people that understand and like to tweak their devices for good and better customization/performance.
The only thing iOS beats Android, it's the app quality (not all, but the majority).
But I'll be honest, I was kinda jealous of my girlfriend's iphone 5 (with my s2). But after getting my N4, she's jealous of my phone =D
N4 is for tech junky not rich wannabe trendy in cool types
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lambomanx1 said:
Battery life...Nexus 4 would get around 6 hours of screen on time browsing over Wi-Fi,
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No idea where you got that number from, but 4 hours is about the limit I've seen.
If we're talking about a lot of browsing throughout the day on Wi-Fi, I get close to 6 hours. Daily usage with the majority of it on 3G, less of course, probably around the 4 hour mark.
kristoff125 said:
No idea where you got that number from, but 4 hours is about the limit I've seen.
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Then you're doing it wrong.
estallings15 said:
Then you're doing it wrong.
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Should I hold my phone differently?
kristoff125 said:
Should I hold my phone differently?
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Yes!
Why do you feel the need to show them anything? Why do you think they are deluded? Maybe you should worry about your own stuff and they worry about theirs.
But like a number of other users have said, the pros for the n4 are custom roms/tinkering and price, if your friends don't care about those things then you aren't going to convince them the n4 is the better phone.
calanizzle said:
iOS: high end device with latest technology right out of the box, for people that don't understand or doesn't like to tweak their devices.
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Probably not latest technology AFAICT.
kristoff125 said:
No idea where you got that number from, but 4 hours is about the limit I've seen.
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you should get over 4 hours wifi, I got 4.30 on stock, 5 hours display on wifi easy, or 6 clocked at 1100mhz
anyway
iphone is for the majority who upgraded from a nokia 3310 and don't know what to expect in a phone, just want emails etc
android for those who like freedom to customize and know what to expect when they spend money.
There is plenty to like and dislike about both phones.
The one that fills more of your likes then dislikes is the better phone for you.
Sorry iPhone 5 beats N4 but Samsung Galaxy 3 is iPhone slayer.
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Having just switched from an iphone 4 to the N4, the one thing that I can't believe hasn't been built into Android yet is lockscreen notifications. I understand you can pull the notification bar down, but I'd like to see something like iOS or Windows Phone 8 where I can see at a glance how many unread emails, msgs, missed calls I have without having to buy apps to do it. Not seeing the screen wake up when I receive a new notification is different too (also to quickly glance), but I'm getting used to that.
neilshahh said:
What are some ways you can compare a nexus to iPhone in real life?
Which aspects of the N4 do you think are better than the iPhone?
My friends are deluded and seem to be going by just looks, how do I show them the N4 is more than what they think it is?
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Power on the N4. Unlock it. Done.
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