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Development Request: turn HTC [X]button into [OK]button

i am using htc x-button on my treo and like the ability to actually close the application instead of hiding it.
however for onehand navigation it might be very usefull to add an option to close applications with the (hardware) [OK]button.
i am not a programmer but having a look at the size of the original program it might be a very small change to allow that. what do you think?
is it worth the try? would you say this might be a usefull additon?
thanks a lot for your time

ditch x-button & use PQzII instead.

or tman for that matter

@ deadeyes:
nice program but unfortunately doesnt work on treo with WM6. (display problems and OK-funktion not working)
@pat123:
thats "just another taskmanager", but doesnt fits my needs. it requires the use of the stylus to select and close programs.
i just want to use the treo onehanded as much often as possible, no stylus. so using the ok-button to actually close programs would be perfect. PQzII would be perfect (even overloaded for me) if it works with WM6.
any more hints on this one?

I am also trying to make my device (8525) as thumb friendly as possible. I use SPB Mobile shell, which has an easy-to-poke-at-with-your-thumb task manager. The task manager can be used to switch to or close any running application. It can also close all, close all but selected, or minimize all. I mapped the task manager to the PTT button (using Sleuth's PTT fix) for easy access. I also mapped the Today screen to the hardware Internet Explorer button to use as a "minimize all" button. (SBP Mobile Shell also has makes it possible to add large icons to the today screen to launch your favorite programs). I now have a fairly easy time switching between apps while walking or whatever without using two hands. I still wish I could map the "OK" button to close rather than minimize though. Maybe someone with far more skill than I will come up with a way to map the "OK" button to close an appication. I'm more "user" than "developer".

...Or Pbar for that matter.

nehvada said:
@ deadeyes:
nice program but unfortunately doesnt work on treo with WM6. (display problems and OK-funktion not working)
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hmm, I'm using it on WM6 (hermes however), and it working perfectly.
by display problem, do you mean the white square on your top bar? if yes, you can disable it in the icon tab.
did you check the "Use OK button" in the Window tab? if yes and it still doesn't work then you will probably need to map close function manually in the system tab. (you will need to find out the key code in concern, they have other apps to help you do that)

I found something new (to me) since my last post. I just found vijay555's OK/close button application. It can be mapped to a hardware button (not the OK button unfortunately), but it works great. It's much easier to use a hardware button than it is to try to wedge my fat thumb into the upper right corner of the screen. Here's the link --
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJOkButt

Here's the trick to assign panel button to other exe

Only works for exe (shortcut ".lnk" won't work)
Code:
1. HKLM\Software\SonyEricsson\PanelManager\ApplicationName
2. e.g. Change it to "\..\Windows\Pie.exe"

thats just linking to another application. but its not released for windows mobile use.

jackleung said:
Only works for exe (shortcut ".lnk" won't work)
1. HKLM\Software\SonyEricsson\PanelManager\ApplicationName
2. e.g. Change it to "\..\Windows\Pie.exe"
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NICE find ! Thx alot !!!!!
It works flawlessly with Quickmenu !
So.. I got my Startmenu-Button back !
Btw: I also installed the Blackstone FM Radio Cab so no functionality is gone from my X1. The Mediapanel is nice but.... Who cares...?
DocMAX said:
thats just linking to another application. but its not released for windows mobile use.
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???
Of course it is a registry tweak and not an application ?

What am i doing wrong?
i changed the reg key to: \Windows\CommManager.exe
but it still tells me that there is no panel manager instead of opening the communication manager.

anheuer said:
What am i doing wrong?
i changed the reg key to: \Windows\CommManager.exe
but it still tells me that there is no panel manager instead of opening the communication manager.
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I made this mistake as well, it's because you've missed the most important part.
1. HKLM\Software\SonyEricsson\PanelManager\ApplicationName
2. e.g. Change it to "\..\Windows\Pie.exe"
"\..\"
You must put that at the start. I did my comm manager and has to do:
"\..\Windows\CommManagerLink.exe"
Thanks for finding this to the OP as well, been looking to get this changed for a while!

i installed one of the roms that do not have panel manager installed. this trick doesnt seem to work on the rom

im confused
cansomeone pls explain what u can achieve by changing this buttoins function other than losing acces to the panel function :S or does this simply mean u can save cpu usage
pls reply with some insight
thnx

Uh... but if you assign your panel button to something else.... then how you gonna access the panels still?

This is incase you dont use the panels.
Like me... i have had the original rom, and 2 roms here on this forum (custom)
And with every rom i had the same thing.
Having tf3d and panels will crash my phone (when i use e.g. google panel and then hit the x for panel change, then i often need to remove battery and place it again)
i rather have the tf3d then panels if i have to choose.
so thats why i use the X for a different app.

AE Button Plus
Or you could use 'AE Button Plus' it works for me flawlessly. I can assign the Panel Button to just about anything I choose.

how did you asign something to the AE button?

how do i reassign another button to run panel manager? I tried to execute /Program Files/Panel Manager/PanelManager.exe but that does not bring up the panel manager

anheuer said:
how did you asign something to the AE button?
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In AE Button Plus main screen, select FILE menu and choose ADD BUTTON and the dialog box that pops up is waiting for you to press a hardware button...
Press the X-PANEL button (which will probably launch panel manager if it's installed, no matter close that down) it will then allow you to press in the dialog box 'ADD KEY' and also shows you the Key code...
The key code will be next to the newly created button in the list for you to assign to whateve you like.

fotoingo said:
NICE find ! Thx alot !!!!!
It works flawlessly with Quickmenu !
So.. I got my Startmenu-Button back !
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how did you do this? i want panel button remapped to start menu but i cant seem to figure it out there is no startmenu.exe in windows file??? what is the file called?
thanks

he uses QuickMenu 2.7 as a replacement start menu.

patterns said:
how did you do this? i want panel button remapped to start menu but i cant seem to figure it out there is no startmenu.exe in windows file??? what is the file called?
thanks
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Yeah, assign Quickmenu.exe to the panel button and you get a "startmenu" button. Search for Quickmenu 2.7 around the forum....

doesnt work
I followed your directions and can't get the x-panel button to run quickmenu. It still runs the panel manager. There's something else that needs to be done, and I haven't' a clue what that is.
At least I was able to load the cab file that makes panels work on the touch HD. So when I eventually get the x-panel button reassigned, I can still access panels (which I infrequently do as it is). I have yet to see the value of panels. I like running things in the background concurrently, i.e. listening to streaming radio or mp3, txt'ing, using GPS, or exploring on the web. Panel switching seems to halt other tasks.

Kinda works
Finally got quickmenu to work with the x-panel key. Another important tidbit of info is that quickmenu must already be running for the x-button to invoke it. Otherwise it loads panelmanager.
Another bit of info, as soon as you run panel for the first time (in programs, the touch HD cab adds it on install), the behavior reverts back to the x-panel key invoking panelmanager and not quickmenu. I checked, quickmenu is still running. Figure that one out. Very confusing.

i installed panel as a seperate cab, i dont have the panel manager in my programs and i cant seem to invoke it any other way besides pressing the hardware button

apprentice said:
Or you could use 'AE Button Plus' it works for me flawlessly. I can assign the Panel Button to just about anything I choose.
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I heard AEbutton plus cannot grab the OK button. Is this true?

[REQ] HTC Taskmanager improvement

Hi There,
If you ever used the "Close Button" plug-in from Spb Mobile Plus you prolly know what I mean...
The HTC Taskmanager looks all nice, I like it, but its only accessible on the Today Screen. Is there a way to make it accessible even when you're not on the today screen?
Sometimes when you're doing stuff you want to "alt-tab" to another program and this is an easy way to do it, or when you want to close another/all other programs.
I hope there's a solution because it really is an improvement to the taskmanager.

me too
sorry, no help here. I can only say "me too". I was actually just thinking about this today. I've had this phone for a few months, and it just today occurred to mr today that you can't close other open programs without going back to the today screen, only option is to "x" button back to today screen or hope that what you seek to close is in your start menu under 'recent items'.
any help or development would be super appreciated, thanks all.

There is a shortcut in the Settings folder in the Systems tab. However, I expect you don't want to go through all of that when you want to use it. As an alternative, you could use file explorer and go into the Windows folder, find the Task Manager program in there, copy it and past a shortcut in the Windows/Start Menu folder. Then it would be on your Start Menu. You would need to remove one other item if you were then over the allowed maximum number of items in there.
Is that accessible enough?

I'd rather not put it in my start menu cus there are other "important" shortcuts in there...
I'd rather have it in the upper right corner...

You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)

whiskeybro said:
You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)
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I tried it and I like it, Is there a way to make a backup of my settings?

It seems the program doesnt work as i wished it would. I worked with it for a while and I like the concept alot, but there's a major flaw. Sometimes when I make adjustments to, lets say, my alarm settings (winmo clock/alarms setings), and when I press [ok] the window minimizes (I set the one click to minimize), there's no way you can apply the changes because it will keep on running on the background. If I choose to close it then the changes wont apply. This occurs to many other programs I use in simular occasions when you need to press [ok] to apply settings.
I would still have a solution to the HTC taskbar though. I think I would prefer it over the WkTask taskmanager.

Shortcut/App to Launch HTC QuickMenu (Please?)

I have a Fuze with everything turned off but what I want (runs quick and smooth). I really don't want 3rd party bloatware and other "TaskManager" or "QuickMenu" applications. I am simply looking for the syntax/shortcut (or maybe small app to launch the built-in HTC QuickMenu that is in the top right corner of the Windows Mobile screen.
I like this QuickMenu and the options that are available... most of all I like that it's already a part of my phone (so hopefully nothing more to install but a shortcut). From what I can tell it's part of the "taskservice.dll" that is loaded in \HKCU\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\TaskManager\
Since the Icon in the top-right for the QuickMenu is so small (and I hate getting out the stylus) I wish to map a shortcut/command-syntax preferrably to Right-Soft Key, or possibly a hardware button like PTT.
I've contacted HTC by email and they simply said it couldn't be done but I know that's probably not the case... I just need a super genious hacker to give me the right syntax/steps to make it work.
Thank you in advance for whoever can help on this!!!!
Michael
*** Please Relocate Thread if I have somehow posted it in the wrong section. Thanks!!! ***

all you have to do to launch QM from a hardware button is maake a shortcut to programs. then, go into \settings\personal\buttons and select your program to run from one of your buttons.
you can also go into qm settings and select the option to replace the start menu.
also, QM is a third party app.

SVI,
Thanks for the reply.. I guess I should have clarified that I am familiar with the steps for creating a shortcut to an EXE however the QuickMenu that is built in to HTC's Fuze is calling a DLL at startup... so the trick would be how do I shortcut/call a DLL file that has been started up as a service??
I am not interested in any other 3rd party QuickMenu, just wanting to find the way to call up the one that is already installed on my phone... ie. by pointing a shortcut (or possibly small launch app) to start up the "taskservice.dll" with whatever tags/options to open the menu on the Today Screen.
Thanks for any additional info you may be able to provide!

Could you found the solution?

no answers yet
Sancho,
I have still been unable to find the solution, and would very much STILL BE interested in finding it. In the meantime I have just used a shortcut to the built-in Taskmgr.exe (\Windows\Taskmgr) or TaskManagerApp.exe also found in Windows. Both programs are different versions of Task Manager and I found that I like Taskmgr a bit better because I can switch to an open application using that version of Task Manager. However I still like the HTC Quickmenu in the top right corner (other than the fact that it is way to small to hit with your finger) and would love to find a way to point a shortcut to the opening it up while on the Today Screen so that I can see running apps, easily close all, switch to one in particular, or see my power & memory settings.
If anyone still has any ideas on how I might accomplish this I would be extremely grateful! Again I am wanting to do this Natively, using the HTC QuickMenu (Taskservices.dll) already built-in and not interested in installing another 3rd party app that takes up memory.
Thanks in Advance for any help that may be offered!
Michael

Thank you for your fast reply!

Re: Shortcut/App to Launch HTC QuickMenu
I just got a fuze and when i went through the settings i found out what your probably trying to do. Go to Start/setting/the small tab on the bottom that you would find your ''hold end key button''/ Hold end key setting. when you get there , they will be a couple settings relating to what you want your end key shorcut to be. then you will click on ''access quick menu'' (or something like that).

The HTC Quick Menu 2.1 (Build 1918.3631) settings:
(Start / Settings / Systems / Task Manager / Button)
Enable the "X" button to end running programs
End programs by tapping "X"
End programs by tapping and holding "X"
Enable Quick Menu on Today screen
(no more...)

I don't think that it is possible to find a shortcut for this. (do hope that I'm wrong and somebody can find the way and share it here though)
But I would like to recommend one of my favorite light apps which can realize what you desired for. It is called HButton and created by an xda contributor, please referhere:
http://hbutton.dyndns.org/
In Hbtton settings, the <Ok/Close> function actually point to the upper-right corner of the screen.
Think you will like it.

No, thanks, I don't want to install 3rd party apps. : )
I think, need to find a solution here, as under Windows the "rundll32.exe" the "taskservice.dll" to run.

Hello,
I use a litte script for that on my TOPAZ (Mortscript is a third party program, but for me indespensable)
Code:
SendSpecial ("win")
Afterwards, you can map it to a button

sudist said:
Hello,
I use a litte script for that on my TOPAZ (Mortscript is a third party program, but for me indespensable)
Code:
SendSpecial ("win")
Afterwards, you can map it to a button
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This MortScript script is call the "Win" button and open the Start menu.
This is not an option, not a good.
We would like to open the HTC TaskManager (on right-up corner).

sancho1234 said:
We would like to open the HTC TaskManager (on right-up corner).
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Oups... I understand now
Maybe something like this ???
Code:
Show ("Desktop")
Sleep 500
Mouseclick (470,10)

sudist said:
Oups... I understand now
Maybe something like this ???
Code:
Show ("Desktop")
Sleep 500
Mouseclick (470,10)
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Thank you. But I think the "sleep" function is not too stable for me. I wrote a similar script already, I have not had good experiences.

Dit you try :
Code:
Show ("Desktop")
WaitForActive ("Desktop")
Mouseclick (470,10)

sudist said:
Dit you try :
Code:
Show ("Desktop")
WaitForActive ("Desktop")
Mouseclick (470,10)
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Error, because the WaitForActive is need a ",": WaitForActive ("Desktop",)
I try with WaitForActive ("Desktop",[0-3]), no action.

wg5566 said:
I don't think that it is possible to find a shortcut for this. (do hope that I'm wrong and somebody can find the way and share it here though)
But I would like to recommend one of my favorite light apps which can realize what you desired for. It is called HButton and created by an xda contributor, please referhere:
http://hbutton.dyndns.org/
In Hbtton settings, the <Ok/Close> function actually point to the upper-right corner of the screen.
Think you will like it.
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WG > I looked at the link provided and I am not quite sure I understand. from the looks of it.. it would appear to be another Task Manager type application? But are you saying that when configuring the "<Ok/Close>" function and using it, that it will activate the Quick Menu on the Today Screen by "pointing ot the upper-right corner of the screen"? or have I misunderstood you?
If in fact it activates the Quick Menu on the Today screen by activating the upper-right corner, then it may be an app worth trying.
If you could reply and please clarify that would be great.
If anyone else has additional info to add on how I might do this natively that would be AWESOME!
Thanks in advance for your help!

wow... lol. ok so I guess there's been a few more posts since WG posted and my reply to his was a bit outta place.
But it sounds like Sancho unerstands what I am looking for.
I am not looking for another Task Manager/Menu, or the "Quick Access List" menu as defined by the "Long Press End Key" in the System Settings.
I am looking for the shortcut/syntax/code/scrip to access what is referred to in the Registry as the HTCQuickMenu (running taskservices.dll) and execute the drop down on the today screen from the small icon in the upper-right corner looks like: ≡ˇ
thanks!

sancho1234 said:
I try with WaitForActive ("Desktop",[0-3]), no action.
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Hello, sorry for the waiting (I was on a boattrip )
First you need to know how your desktop is called with this script:
You clic on this script and hurry to your desktop (the windowname is showed for 5 sec
Code:
Sleep 5000
X1 = ActiveWindow()
Sleepmessage (5, X1)
The you copy this windowname in the script
Code:
Show ("NAME")
WaitForActive ("NAME", 6)
Mouseclick (470,10)

HD mini - no "x" function to stop the program

ASUS P835 can use "X" to stop program ,but buy HD mini and try install "HTC task manager v2.1 " or other "task manager cab ", cannot show "X" in top task bar ,why?
please help me !!!
* buying & using in Hong Kong .
thank you

yep, me too.
I'm used to close program tapping 'x' button in elfin. Now, mini hasn't 'x' and it's not comfortable to manage program that i'm running. everytime run task manager and close it.
there some1 know how to restore 'x' function in mini pls.,,,,

missing x
Install the Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3, this contains a tweak that enables taskmanager to exit progs automaticly to save memory.
Works great for me.

nlsn86 said:
Install the Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3, this contains a tweak that enables taskmanager to exit progs automaticly to save memory.
Works great for me.
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Which setting (in advanced config. tool) does that?

missing x
- htc task manager -> auto kill

maybe use arkswicht.

What I do if I want to see the X button?
I think it correct with a change in registry.
I also installed a task manager program that controled from X button position, but it does not work.
I have a serious problem with it.

Hi all,
I had same behaviour, and usually use the x button. But in HD mini all this things changed and I has been disapointed for a while, but...
For office and other applications, you use the back <- hardware key instaed of "x" ou "ok" button. The only difference is that the application is not taken away of memory, it remains minimized.
If you want close one or more apps, knowing the fact you have a lot more RAM than on Diamond for example and you do not have to close every time the applications, you can yuse the integrated Task Manager tapping on top bar and then Task Manager button.

I found a solution to bring back the missing X button
With a registry editor got to HKLM->Software->Microsoft->Shell->BubbleTiles and set HardwareDoneKeyEnabled to 0 and HardwareStartKeyEnabled to 0. You will have
the X/Ok button back but also the win key on the bottom left will be back too. If you won't enable the winkey, the softkeys won't be centered and it looks ugly.
Also set TextModeEnabled to 0 in order to have icons instead of text in softkeys. The hardware buttons work normally like before. Hope i helped

Thanks, I've done that but doesn't seem to work. When I press X it minimizes the program instead of closing it. I check the task manager and is still running

this is standard for x, "x" never exit programs for real, was just a new function later on TD or newer to close programs with the x button....so I think "exit programs by pressing x" is another regkey you need to enable, without this, it´s standard "x" function, and that was always "minimize"

Thanks for the explanation

No there is no reg key to change the function of the X key. The only way to change the function of the X key (to really close apps instead of minimise them) is via a program such as xtask, wktask, ameba ect. In these programs there is an option to make X button close apps. Ameba is the most simple app to use. Just search for it

Doesn't the "end call"-button exit apps on the mini?

unfortunately no...

did anyone notice when you go phone. the icon is like mess up.. how to solve

anyone?? regards to the phone

keeee said:
anyone?? regards to the phone
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No problem here with any of the icons I can see. Which one did you mean?

whn u put the "phone" button. you can see that there is one keypad button at the centre, then on the left and right.. there seem to be 2 icon. being overlap..

No overlap here; I do see the text of 'people' slightly cut off due to the narrower button next to the Start button