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Development Request: turn HTC [X]button into [OK]button

i am using htc x-button on my treo and like the ability to actually close the application instead of hiding it.
however for onehand navigation it might be very usefull to add an option to close applications with the (hardware) [OK]button.
i am not a programmer but having a look at the size of the original program it might be a very small change to allow that. what do you think?
is it worth the try? would you say this might be a usefull additon?
thanks a lot for your time

ditch x-button & use PQzII instead.

or tman for that matter

@ deadeyes:
nice program but unfortunately doesnt work on treo with WM6. (display problems and OK-funktion not working)
@pat123:
thats "just another taskmanager", but doesnt fits my needs. it requires the use of the stylus to select and close programs.
i just want to use the treo onehanded as much often as possible, no stylus. so using the ok-button to actually close programs would be perfect. PQzII would be perfect (even overloaded for me) if it works with WM6.
any more hints on this one?

I am also trying to make my device (8525) as thumb friendly as possible. I use SPB Mobile shell, which has an easy-to-poke-at-with-your-thumb task manager. The task manager can be used to switch to or close any running application. It can also close all, close all but selected, or minimize all. I mapped the task manager to the PTT button (using Sleuth's PTT fix) for easy access. I also mapped the Today screen to the hardware Internet Explorer button to use as a "minimize all" button. (SBP Mobile Shell also has makes it possible to add large icons to the today screen to launch your favorite programs). I now have a fairly easy time switching between apps while walking or whatever without using two hands. I still wish I could map the "OK" button to close rather than minimize though. Maybe someone with far more skill than I will come up with a way to map the "OK" button to close an appication. I'm more "user" than "developer".

...Or Pbar for that matter.

nehvada said:
@ deadeyes:
nice program but unfortunately doesnt work on treo with WM6. (display problems and OK-funktion not working)
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hmm, I'm using it on WM6 (hermes however), and it working perfectly.
by display problem, do you mean the white square on your top bar? if yes, you can disable it in the icon tab.
did you check the "Use OK button" in the Window tab? if yes and it still doesn't work then you will probably need to map close function manually in the system tab. (you will need to find out the key code in concern, they have other apps to help you do that)

I found something new (to me) since my last post. I just found vijay555's OK/close button application. It can be mapped to a hardware button (not the OK button unfortunately), but it works great. It's much easier to use a hardware button than it is to try to wedge my fat thumb into the upper right corner of the screen. Here's the link --
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJOkButt

Task manager idea

I was wondering if it would be possible to have nice fast simple on-screen task manager that is called from long press of home button, for example. Anyone got ideas?

It's not exactly the same question, but is it possible to map a softkey to the standard task manager? (I just bought a piel frama case and it's hard to tap on the task manager symbol)

Or add a shortcut to the task manager in the start menu .. any ideas how to do this?

try here:
http://www.dotfred.net/
he has (in my opinion) the best taskmanager with all the trimmings, but if you want a basic one that just displays running programs as a picture, like Alt+Tab on a PC, download the task switcher from the above site
once it is installed, got to START->SETTINGS->BUTTONS
you will see only one button available, this is called "Button 1" (the call key bot the hang up key) map task switcher to this
then when you hold down the call key you will have a visual taskmanager where you can end running progs etc
hope this helps

Thanks for the reply, I have that task manager already installed in Dutty's ROM, and I think it's great but I can't find a simple option like "close all active tasks" and "define exceptions"
For the second idea, I have tested it but I don't like to hold any key, I feel like doing harm to my phone

thanks for the responses guys...

Here's the trick to assign panel button to other exe

Only works for exe (shortcut ".lnk" won't work)
Code:
1. HKLM\Software\SonyEricsson\PanelManager\ApplicationName
2. e.g. Change it to "\..\Windows\Pie.exe"

thats just linking to another application. but its not released for windows mobile use.

jackleung said:
Only works for exe (shortcut ".lnk" won't work)
1. HKLM\Software\SonyEricsson\PanelManager\ApplicationName
2. e.g. Change it to "\..\Windows\Pie.exe"
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NICE find ! Thx alot !!!!!
It works flawlessly with Quickmenu !
So.. I got my Startmenu-Button back !
Btw: I also installed the Blackstone FM Radio Cab so no functionality is gone from my X1. The Mediapanel is nice but.... Who cares...?
DocMAX said:
thats just linking to another application. but its not released for windows mobile use.
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???
Of course it is a registry tweak and not an application ?

What am i doing wrong?
i changed the reg key to: \Windows\CommManager.exe
but it still tells me that there is no panel manager instead of opening the communication manager.

anheuer said:
What am i doing wrong?
i changed the reg key to: \Windows\CommManager.exe
but it still tells me that there is no panel manager instead of opening the communication manager.
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I made this mistake as well, it's because you've missed the most important part.
1. HKLM\Software\SonyEricsson\PanelManager\ApplicationName
2. e.g. Change it to "\..\Windows\Pie.exe"
"\..\"
You must put that at the start. I did my comm manager and has to do:
"\..\Windows\CommManagerLink.exe"
Thanks for finding this to the OP as well, been looking to get this changed for a while!

i installed one of the roms that do not have panel manager installed. this trick doesnt seem to work on the rom

im confused
cansomeone pls explain what u can achieve by changing this buttoins function other than losing acces to the panel function :S or does this simply mean u can save cpu usage
pls reply with some insight
thnx

Uh... but if you assign your panel button to something else.... then how you gonna access the panels still?

This is incase you dont use the panels.
Like me... i have had the original rom, and 2 roms here on this forum (custom)
And with every rom i had the same thing.
Having tf3d and panels will crash my phone (when i use e.g. google panel and then hit the x for panel change, then i often need to remove battery and place it again)
i rather have the tf3d then panels if i have to choose.
so thats why i use the X for a different app.

AE Button Plus
Or you could use 'AE Button Plus' it works for me flawlessly. I can assign the Panel Button to just about anything I choose.

how did you asign something to the AE button?

how do i reassign another button to run panel manager? I tried to execute /Program Files/Panel Manager/PanelManager.exe but that does not bring up the panel manager

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how did you asign something to the AE button?
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In AE Button Plus main screen, select FILE menu and choose ADD BUTTON and the dialog box that pops up is waiting for you to press a hardware button...
Press the X-PANEL button (which will probably launch panel manager if it's installed, no matter close that down) it will then allow you to press in the dialog box 'ADD KEY' and also shows you the Key code...
The key code will be next to the newly created button in the list for you to assign to whateve you like.

fotoingo said:
NICE find ! Thx alot !!!!!
It works flawlessly with Quickmenu !
So.. I got my Startmenu-Button back !
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how did you do this? i want panel button remapped to start menu but i cant seem to figure it out there is no startmenu.exe in windows file??? what is the file called?
thanks

he uses QuickMenu 2.7 as a replacement start menu.

patterns said:
how did you do this? i want panel button remapped to start menu but i cant seem to figure it out there is no startmenu.exe in windows file??? what is the file called?
thanks
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Yeah, assign Quickmenu.exe to the panel button and you get a "startmenu" button. Search for Quickmenu 2.7 around the forum....

doesnt work
I followed your directions and can't get the x-panel button to run quickmenu. It still runs the panel manager. There's something else that needs to be done, and I haven't' a clue what that is.
At least I was able to load the cab file that makes panels work on the touch HD. So when I eventually get the x-panel button reassigned, I can still access panels (which I infrequently do as it is). I have yet to see the value of panels. I like running things in the background concurrently, i.e. listening to streaming radio or mp3, txt'ing, using GPS, or exploring on the web. Panel switching seems to halt other tasks.

Kinda works
Finally got quickmenu to work with the x-panel key. Another important tidbit of info is that quickmenu must already be running for the x-button to invoke it. Otherwise it loads panelmanager.
Another bit of info, as soon as you run panel for the first time (in programs, the touch HD cab adds it on install), the behavior reverts back to the x-panel key invoking panelmanager and not quickmenu. I checked, quickmenu is still running. Figure that one out. Very confusing.

i installed panel as a seperate cab, i dont have the panel manager in my programs and i cant seem to invoke it any other way besides pressing the hardware button

apprentice said:
Or you could use 'AE Button Plus' it works for me flawlessly. I can assign the Panel Button to just about anything I choose.
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I heard AEbutton plus cannot grab the OK button. Is this true?

[REQ] HTC Taskmanager improvement

Hi There,
If you ever used the "Close Button" plug-in from Spb Mobile Plus you prolly know what I mean...
The HTC Taskmanager looks all nice, I like it, but its only accessible on the Today Screen. Is there a way to make it accessible even when you're not on the today screen?
Sometimes when you're doing stuff you want to "alt-tab" to another program and this is an easy way to do it, or when you want to close another/all other programs.
I hope there's a solution because it really is an improvement to the taskmanager.

me too
sorry, no help here. I can only say "me too". I was actually just thinking about this today. I've had this phone for a few months, and it just today occurred to mr today that you can't close other open programs without going back to the today screen, only option is to "x" button back to today screen or hope that what you seek to close is in your start menu under 'recent items'.
any help or development would be super appreciated, thanks all.

There is a shortcut in the Settings folder in the Systems tab. However, I expect you don't want to go through all of that when you want to use it. As an alternative, you could use file explorer and go into the Windows folder, find the Task Manager program in there, copy it and past a shortcut in the Windows/Start Menu folder. Then it would be on your Start Menu. You would need to remove one other item if you were then over the allowed maximum number of items in there.
Is that accessible enough?

I'd rather not put it in my start menu cus there are other "important" shortcuts in there...
I'd rather have it in the upper right corner...

You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)

whiskeybro said:
You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)
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I tried it and I like it, Is there a way to make a backup of my settings?

It seems the program doesnt work as i wished it would. I worked with it for a while and I like the concept alot, but there's a major flaw. Sometimes when I make adjustments to, lets say, my alarm settings (winmo clock/alarms setings), and when I press [ok] the window minimizes (I set the one click to minimize), there's no way you can apply the changes because it will keep on running on the background. If I choose to close it then the changes wont apply. This occurs to many other programs I use in simular occasions when you need to press [ok] to apply settings.
I would still have a solution to the HTC taskbar though. I think I would prefer it over the WkTask taskmanager.

A really Working invisible X button

Install the attached HTC X-button application. Activate it under settings/system. But nothing happens after this
NOW if u wish to close an application just tap on system clock the application will get closed.
It is is a temp. solution until anyone figure out how to make the X visible.

krishan2207 said:
Install the attached HTC X-button application. Activate it under settings/system. But nothing happens after this
NOW if u wish to close an application just tap on system clock the application will get closed.
It is is a temp. solution until anyone figure out how to make the X visible.
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The solution for a visible X button has already been found Just check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6740128&postcount=9

zalaros said:
The solution for a visible X button has already been found Just check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6740128&postcount=9
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but that do not solve the application closing issue. it only minimizes the application.

krishan2207 said:
but that do not solve the application closing issue. it only minimizes the application.
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Yes that's what X button is supposed to do in Windows Mobile. You can install an application like ameba or xtask or wktask ect. to make the X button to close the running app instead of minimising it. The problem in Hd mini was that there wasn't any visible X button. Htc hide it. With the registry changes i gave you, you can unhide the X button and make it (with an app mentioned above) really close the running apps. I think it's better to close an app by pressing the X button than pressing the clock

Thx MAN! This is what i need it..

What we need is the "full" top line from the earlier windows version (HD2) to replace the mini's, all we need is then to add Dutty's task manager
Anyone know how to do that ?
seems the Mini has it's own task manager built in and no top start icon or X as it now has hardware-soft keys...... What genius at Microsoft allows their developers to change things that have always been standard since Day one !
Just like the functionality of Vista/win 7 is downhill from XP,

just tried a taskbar program called "wktask" which works quite well with hdmini. it adds a list of running applications at the top bar with adjustable length to cope with the original icons (viz. time, signal, bluetooth, etc.). tapping a listed application to active it. tap and hold a menu with close option will be shown.
it also add a "x" button but I personally have disabled it because it can lead to accidentally terminating the windows application page.
there are many other options to suit your needs.

I tried "WKTASK" but it covers and blocks the original taskbar, shame as it has some nice features. It's not a resolution thing as it does not work on the higher resolution HD2
Seems for Me all I need is a hack to add the "start" and "X" as the Mini has a more functional taskbar than the earlier builds (task manager,battery info etc)

you can using ameba