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Acording to engadet mobile sony has signed a deal with foxconn to produce there android phone(s).
Could they also being using them for there next wm phone.
it would make sense to do a deal for mutiple phones with one company, as there could be discounts and stuff by doing muliple deals and we already know SE dont want to use htc anymore.
might be promising, they make handsets for nokia and a couple others I think..
does look like they're doing the x2 Winmo as well
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081223PB200.html
shame, i wanted asus to make it.
does anyone know anything about this company? are they any good? what have they made before?
What would you like to know? Foxconn has been used a lot by Apple in the past. I believe they made most of the iPods and such. I believe they have been responsible for some iPaqs bij Compaq/HP.
Guess they are qualified enough to produce a Winmo phone. No worries about that.
To be honest, I'm a bit gutted they moved away from HTC. They seem like a good company. Might have to make my next phone a proper HTC is this is true, and the new X2 isn't up the scratch.
Just looked on wikipedia, did not notice how big they are and how many products they have helped to produce. they make htc look like small fry (look at there revenue/net income compared with htc).
For those like me who dont know about the company look on wiki, the helped produce the iphone, ipod, mac mini, mac air, macbook pro, ipod nano, ps2, ps3, wii, xbox 360, amazon kindle, phones from motorola, nokia and SE.
As well as this they make pc parts and motherboards for big companys like asus, dell, hp and sony. heatsinks for amd and intel branded motherboards.
this is a big company that makes very big products but are not very well known as they dont have there own branding on the product and parts they make.
it was rumered that mobinova were to make the x2 a while back
if foxconn\ (mobinova) are making the android phone that does not mean theyll do the wm one though.
THE GRIZZ said:
it was rumered that mobinova were to make the x2 a while back
if foxconn\ (mobinova) are making the android phone that does not mean theyll do the wm one though.
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i think (but may be wrong) that mobinova is part on foxconn (a company owned by foxconn and as such meaning foxconn is making it, if u know what i mean. think retro studios make the metriod prime games but are owned by nintendo so its a nintendo game).
it only says android phones at the mo but looking at there experiance in with ipaqs and phones like iphone, sony will probally use them to make there next x phone (which i think will be wm not android),
If HTC do not make the X2, I'm buying Touch Pro 2 or 3.
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If HTC do not make the X2, I'm buying Touch Pro 2 or 3.
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AGREED.
The main reason I would only ever buy HTC is this forum.
Who else would agree with this statement?
We should set up a poll methinks.
I wonder if HTC know about this forum, and if they knew just how many people buy HTC because of this forum, I think they would sponsor it, if only in a small way, monetarelly speakng that is
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If HTC do not make the X2, I'm buying Touch Pro 2 or 3.
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why buy a touch pro 2 when its the same spec as your x1???
Ganondolf said:
Just looked on wikipedia, did not notice how big they are and how many products they have helped to produce. they make htc look like small fry (look at there revenue/net income compared with htc).
For those like me who dont know about the company look on wiki, the helped produce the iphone, ipod, mac mini, mac air, macbook pro, ipod nano, ps2, ps3, wii, xbox 360, amazon kindle, phones from motorola, nokia and SE.
As well as this they make pc parts and motherboards for big companys like asus, dell, hp and sony. heatsinks for amd and intel branded motherboards.
this is a big company that makes very big products but are not very well known as they dont have there own branding on the product and parts they make.
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Nice work. I'll have to have a little wiki look myself.
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If HTC do not make the X2, I'm buying Touch Pro 2 or 3.
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If HTC does not make X2, it's even better for X2.
PLEASE NOTE: THIS THREAD IS CREATED BECAUSE I SINCERLY LIKE SE AND NOT FOR BASHING SE. IF YOU WANT TO TROLL OR BASH SE CREATE A NEW THREAD
Dear Sony,
I am one of your avid Fan. Right from the beginning I was using SE phones only. To Mention a few I have used F500i, J230, K750, W810i, K810i, W980, W705 and now X10. So as you can see I was using SE right from 2004. I can say “If you have Once used Sony Erricson, you will always use SonyEricsson”.
Let me be very clear. I love you so much. I have defended SE in many forums from many trolls and iSheep bashers for many years. I did this because I love SE and I believe you will always gives me what is best out there.
But off late you are not living up to your fans belief. What the is wrong with you?
The last master piece from you was W810i. After that all your products disappoint me. K810i, W910i and W980i all of them were total disappointment for me. Off late all your products follow a certain approach, you will announce a very good product and then there will tremendous delays in bringing it to the market, after that i will have many software bugs and hardware failures. So before the product becomes complete it will become outdated..
If you refuse to believe I will give you proof.
Do you know W810i was announced in Feb ’06 and availability was Mar ’06.
K810i was announced in Feb’07 and availability was Apr 07.
W980 was announced in Feb’ 08 and availability was Aug 08.
W705 was announced in Oct’ 08 and availability was May 09.
Satio was announced in Feb’09 and availability was Nov ’09.
And Xperia X1, X2 and X10 every kid knows its delays and bugs.
What happened to you SE? There were long delays. Even after delays none of these phones lived up to its hype ( W980,W705, Satio and X10). You were the first to announce many technologies (8MP, 12MP camera, snapdragon with android phone, even 4" screen) but you were the last to bring it to the market with sky high prices. Where is my Old SE? where I can get all latest tech in a budget phone? Where are you SE?
And Like a Crown for all your failure, the X10 2.1 update. When other are pushing to bring 2.2 for their flag ship device, you cant even bring 2.1 to your Flag ship phone. Instead of bringing 2.2, you are back porting live wallpaper and 5 home screens to 1.6.
WHY THE HELL YOU ARE RE-INVENTING THE WHEEL?
Stop wasting your precious resources in back porting things. Move more resource to bring 2.2 to X10. If you cant alteast please open the bootloader.
X10 had everything to make you success but you missed it.. Good Design, Good Hardware (at Nov '09 nobody had this hardware) and Good Name (You have loyal fan base) and Perfect time (Think if it had been released during Christmas time).
X10 could have been your own iPhone or Droid. It could have been your golden egg but you missed it. What going on in your mind SE? If I can think all these, cant the armani wearing million dollar salaried EO's think? Have you lost it?
We have defended you so long SE but you are now disappointing us more. You even embarrass us by saying you turned down google (X10 as Nexus one would have been epic). Please don’t cheat us more SE. We love you but there is a limit for our patience. If you keep cheating us then Even God (I believe he is there) cant save you.
All I can say is please bring out Froyo update for X10 soon and with no bugs (We dont want 1000 new features we just want Bug less phone). After all you are a more talented company and you certainly deserve a second chance like Moto.
Please SE don’t disappoint us again and save yourself from bankruptcy. Please Make us Believe
---- A sincere, beaten, disappointed and embarrassed Sony Ericsson Fan .
A couple points:
- If you ever want to be taken seriously in any capacity, refrain from foul language.
- Also, refrain from referring to things as "iCrap". Shows a lack of class.
- Live Wallpapers and 5 home screens are default 2.1 features, not being backported from 2.2
- Pricing depends on region. In Japan, the United States, and several other countries, the X10 is the cheapest or one of the cheapest smartphones available. It's free in many markets.
- The X10 is Docomo's highest selling smartphone of all time, and is poised to become their best selling phone of the year/ever. Japan is the world's second biggest market.
Good day sir!
Another point god or gods do not exist, therefore offer no threat.
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iead1 said:
A couple points:
- If you ever want to be taken seriously in any capacity, refrain from foul language. - Removed
- Also, refrain from referring to things as "iCrap". Shows a lack of class. -- Removed
- Live Wallpapers and 5 home screens are default 2.1 features, not being backported from 2.2 - What I ment was they are back porting 2.1 features to 1.6 - Ambient time app
- Pricing depends on region. In Japan, the United States, and several other countries, the X10 is the cheapest or one of the cheapest smartphones available. It's free in many markets. But Total cost of ownership for a not so high end is high compared to other high end phones. This will be the thought of a average guy
- The X10 is Docomo's highest selling smartphone of all time, and is poised to become their best selling phone of the year/ever. Japan is the world's second biggest market. I agree. If they could had made things perfect like releasing with 2.1 and in december, they could have sold Millions in other countries too
Good day sir!
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Another point god or gods do not exist, therefore offer no threat.
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I believe he is there But no Offense (Original post edited to reflect my view)
IF some one could send this to SE CEO, I would be glad. Or If you can pm me his mail-id, I will send it myself.
Thanks
No offense but what do you think you reach by sending this kind of letter to a CEO? No matter which company he is leading, this really is a "straight in the dustbin" letter for those managers...
Again no offense, you wrote down what you think, but I want to bet he don't read till the half of it, to try that out, you might put in the last sentence something about him having an affair with a dead horse, if you dont get anything back, I proved my point....
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Gotta agree with PollPixx.
imo they don't go past the subject of e-mails... snail mail is a thing of past.
moreover they don't go over this stuff personally but their PA's etc do... separate the junk out and send in the "really important" stuff... but only god knows what that is (apart from them )
Looking away from the language, it is a fine letter to SE.
I have also only had SE phones private, starting with the old
Ericsson 318, Erisson t68
t280, t610, k530, k750, k810, k850
c905
w595, w715, w760
x10, x10 mini, x10 mini pro
My 3 kids have all had SE W595 and now they all have X10 mini.
Also i have only used SE for work in many years, currently i have a x10 mini pro...
At work it have been me that have decided what phones we have bought and used for the last 3-4 years, so i have been the main reason that we have only bought SE phones...
- that is over 250 SE phones all together, at work...
(I know that it is NOTHING in the big picture looking from SE headquarters, still it must count for something)
In this answer i just want to ad my own dissapointment thoug...
The main problems is that the big X10 is missing the FM-radio, missing the better headset connection and missing the one finger zoom, while the two cheap small X10 mini models have those things.
What is that about SE ?
Why have you decided to make 3 different X10 series phones, and then at the same time make the TOP model, the one with the weakest features ?
I am really dissapointed with you SE, the lack of updates, the missing features in the X10 top model.
From (i think it was) the old T610, or was it K750, and all the way up to now, my SE phones have allways had FM radio build in, and that was for me a loved feature, then you decide to release the X10 without FM Radio, and after that you again decide to put in FM radio in the mini´s ??
I know i didn´t read close enough in the specs when i bought my X10, but i really was expecting that there would be FM radio in an SE phone, and offcource there would be in the top model, no question about that. What a dissapointment !
An other lack is that tracker (step counter) that was build in i think all the newer phones eg. W595 and W715, now with X10 i again see a loved feature removed, why ?
I find it strange that good working features that SE implement in your phones, is removed again from newer phones.
Features that actually IS the SE brand, features that we learn to love and use every day, you decide to remove.
Why ?
I don´t get the point in making that huge effort to make a few nice new features like timescape and mediascape, and becource of those features you have been left behind, and are currently stock on Android 1,6, and right now we all are waiting for S/E-Android 2.1,, ONLY Android 2,1 when other companies like HTC are moving away from Android 2.1 and on to Android 2.2...
S/E why not release Android 2.2 fast and be the leader in the marked.
Then let people decide for them self IF they want the S/E signature-features like TimeScape and MediaScape when you have those ready later.
Just make new features avalible from your fine PlayNOW system just like you did with CreaTouch.
Why have you at the same time decided to lock down the bootloader of the X10 when Android is a brand new OS you are just learning ??
- release the bootloader now, and look what happen, learn from it and then when you are actually doing a better job coding the OS than other DEV´s on the www, you can decide if you again will lock down bootloaders in your future android phones.
At the moment it make no sense at all, not to let your dev-team learn all they can about what can be done with the hardware you have made.
The hardware is actually really great, and solid build, it is "only" the software that is the problem...
Now i move on to the strange thing about wide range of current phone models you have on the marked.
Why that many, is that really nessesserry at all, really ??
Why not make an effort to be the absolutly best there is on a mutch smaller range of phones, only focus on a few models, perhaps only android phones, as you have said that you want to be world leaders in Android powered phones in a few years anyway.
As i see it you only need one X10 model more to have a complete set of phones, so there will be at least one that souit everyone.
Add one more X10 mini and make it with an old style slide out t9 keyboard.
At last.
I have also been thinking about jumping over to an other brand, and perhaps also look for other phones next time we need some at work, as i am that dissapointed with SE...
But private i find my self thinking that i perhaps just should wait and get the X12 when that is released...
Can i really be that stupid, REALLY ???
- dispite my dissapointment with SE, really ???
SE you are SO lucky that you have a big and loving fan base...
At work i KNOW that SE have the best hardware and the lack of features i mentioned here is no problem in work use...
Again SE you are REALLY lucky that you have a big loving fan base...
Just DON`T dissapoint us anymore !
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I believe he is there But no Offense (Original post edited to reflect my view)
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He? Why would a god need to have a specific gender? They would have no use for it.
Anyway i dont think religious dribble should be in an email like that to a company. Makes you look like a bit of a fruit cake.
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An other lack is that tracker (step counter) that was build in i think all the newer phones eg. W595 and W715, now with X10 i again see a loved feature removed, why ?
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I won't bother replying to the rest...but, my X10 has one.
It's called the Android Market, you can download anything, including pedometers.
At least they all look familiar and have similar sounding names - X5, X8, X10, X10 mini, X10 mini pro. SE are trying to satisfy each segment of the market, just like their competitors HTC, Samsung, Motorola and Nokia do.
@iead1
Is there something you're not telling us? Like who you work for.
Please dont embarass yourself. Your grammar is atrocious.
How about buying an AD on newspaper, and then I'm sure the SE CEO will see this.
sony in general is a big comany, my family has been buying sony things for at least 20 years (got an old and really old stereo which still works o.0)
they always had the best things in the marker, we even say if it's a sony is good
in the past I never used SE, just used nokia or motorola but when i saw the x1 i just felt in love, but when I knew that no wm 6.5 would arrive to it i was so pissed we paid a lot for it to get nothing more, same applies for the x10
i know companies want to get more profits but where's the customer's satisfaction? they use to think that is better to have loyal customers for a long term instead of just having a lot for few months (kinda the thing is going on today)
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@iead1
Is there something you're not telling us? Like who you work for.
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I work for a local board of education, in the mountains of rural Kansai Japan.
Want me to take a picture of my desk with my X10?
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I work for a local board of education, in the mountains of rural Kansai Japan.
Want me to take a picture of my desk with my X10?
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does that mean SE JP HQ??? xD jk
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does that mean SE JP HQ??? xD jk
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I wish! I'd be making more money than I do now!
iead1 said:
I won't bother replying to the rest...but, my X10 has one.
It's called the Android Market, you can download anything, including pedometers.
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Yes, but those on marked is far from working as good as the one in eg. w715...
- and if you was actually using it, you would know that ;-)
Anything ?
- then throw me a link to an fm radio application for the x10, or to one finger zoom perhaps, or to any of the other things that the x10 don't have, that the mini's and all the old SE phones have... *LOL*
Send from my X10, still without 2.1 *&%#
I think that the live wall paper and home screens reference has to do with the SE Japan release of Ambientime which has 5 home screens, pseudocode live wallpapers and a new lock/unlock swipe which is more animated.
That app looks like work that was done as an assessment of the phone's potential to do live wallpapers. It's sort of interesting even if it makes the phone laggy and lockup.
iead1 said:
A couple points:
- If you ever want to be taken seriously in any capacity, refrain from foul language.
- Also, refrain from referring to things as "iCrap". Shows a lack of class.
- Live Wallpapers and 5 home screens are default 2.1 features, not being backported from 2.2
- Pricing depends on region. In Japan, the United States, and several other countries, the X10 is the cheapest or one of the cheapest smartphones available. It's free in many markets.
- The X10 is Docomo's highest selling smartphone of all time, and is poised to become their best selling phone of the year/ever. Japan is the world's second biggest market.
Good day sir!
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Sony nears buying out Ericsson from venture: report
(Reuters) - Sony Corp is nearing a deal to buy out Telefon AB LM Ericsson's stake in their 50:50 smartphone joint venture, the Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday citing people familiar with the matter.
The joint venture's two parent companies have regularly discussed the nature of Sony Ericsson's ownership structure, according to the report. It said the talks were ongoing and could break apart at anytime.
Ericsson and Sony declined to comment on the reported talks.
"We have a long-term commitment to our joint ventures," said an Ericsson spokesman.
Many analysts say Japan's Sony needs to assert control over Sony Ericsson if the venture is to recoup market share in the cut-throat world of smartphones.
Sony and Ericsson's joint venture, formed in 2001, thrived after its breakthrough with Walkman music phones and Cybershot cameraphones, both of which leveraged Sony's brands.
But it lost out to leaner rivals at the cheaper end of the market, and its share of total handset sales has dropped to below 3 percent from more than 9 percent at its peak.
"A buyout would make a lot of sense for Ericsson as I believe their share in the joint venture is worth to them between zero and minus 1 billion euros ($1.33 billion)," said Bernstein analyst Pierre Ferragu.
"Whatever price they agree on, it would be a positive for Ericsson," he said.
Shares in Sweden's Ericsson gained further on the report and closed 6 percent higher at 69.20 crowns on Thursday.
A full takeover of the venture would boost Sony's overall offering, which includes content, gaming devices, consumer electronics and even tablet computers, but is still missing its own smartphones.
"The buyout allows Sony to move development in-house and better integrate other products like gaming into newer phones," said Steven Nathasingh from U.S. technology research firm Vaxa Inc.
Last month at the IFA trade fair in Berlin Sony Ericsson's phones were presented inside the Sony hall, mixed with Sony's TV sets and new tablets.
(Reporting by Tarmo Virki, Yinka Adegoke, Anna Ringstrom, Sven Nordenstam and Liana Balinsky-Baker; Editing by Erica Billingham)
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Sony Is This Close to Paying $1 Billion for Full Control of Sony Ericsson
Sony Is This Close to Paying $1 Billion for Full Control of Sony Ericsson
Sony sure had itself a day the other day, and rumor has it the tech giant may soon have itself all of the Sony Ericsson joint venture as well.
This according to a rumor reported by industry gaming pub Gamasutra, which reports Sony is oh so close to a $1 billion takeover of the mobile phone partnership that it currently shares a 50/50 deal with devices like the Xperia Play. That device, if you'll recall, bears the PlayStation brand and was 100% marketed to the masses as a game-playing device that happened to make phone calls.
But where would the acquired Sony Ericsson assets go? Again, according to rumor, the bits and pieces would be folded into Sony's PC and gaming wing as part of a streamlining maneuver to save cash and improve operations.
Sony Ericsson Xperia Play owners or otherwise, does this sit well with you? [Gamasutra]
its good for both!!
through this deal Sony can compete better with Samsung/Apple..
If sony can keep the employees who designed the arc ill be happy either way. It's a win win for the consumer
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Well, I have mixed feelings about this. Before the merger, Sony was failing miserably in the mobile phone sector. Their phones were just not up to standard. On the other hand, Ericsson was doing pretty well. If I recall the last Ericsson phone was the T68m which was a hit (it was later renamed T68i after the merger). The joint venture, Sony Ericsson, struck gold between 2004-2007 with their Walkman and Cypershot phones. They were very, very late in offering a high end smartphone which came in the form of the X10 in March of 2010 with sub-par software but, great hardware. This was 3 years AFTER the iPhone hit the shelves!
So I am really not sure how Sony will fair if they drop the Ericsson in "Sony Ericsson"?
I think it won't affect so much Ericsson. Or I thinks they shoudn't. If they really buy, they should just add more features to the phones, but keeps the employees from Sony Ericsson. Just a name thing.
Will still be a loyal sony ericsson fan either way. My 1st SE was the t100. It had a blue screen. Lol.
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Hopefully they keep the name and the logo.
Looks much better if Sony Ericsson is on the device and not just Sony imo
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Hopefully they keep the name and the logo.
Looks much better if Sony Ericsson is on the device and not just Sony imo
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I agree. But, I do not think that they will keep it.
Do yo really think that sony-"we lock everything down and sue you if you unlock it" will continue down the path of helping devs and unlocked bootloaders that SonyEricsson just started walking upon?
I doubt it.
The name? Sony won't buy out Ericsson for anything less than a namechange. They won't pay billions just to keep label the product "SonyEricsson".
I think this is a good step for sony, but a very bad one for android.
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Well, I have mixed feelings about this. Before the merger, Sony was failing miserably in the mobile phone sector. Their phones were just not up to standard. On the other hand, Ericsson was doing pretty well. If I recall the last Ericsson phone was the T68m which was a hit (it was later renamed T68i after the merger). The joint venture, Sony Ericsson, struck gold between 2004-2007 with their Walkman and Cypershot phones. They were very, very late in offering a high end smartphone which came in the form of the X10 in March of 2010 with sub-par software but, great hardware. This was 3 years AFTER the iPhone hit the shelves!
So I am really not sure how Sony will fair if they drop the Ericsson in "Sony Ericsson"?
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Lol what the hell are you talking about.
SE offerred the first smartphone in 2002 or 2003 as P800 and than produced a range of top end smartphones until they lowered the bar with X2....
I doubt it will success, Sony always sells the brand name before the product.
HIGH PRICE=NORMAL SPECS.
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Lol what the hell are you talking about.
SE offerred the first smartphone in 2002 or 2003 as P800 and than produced a range of top end smartphones until they lowered the bar with X2....
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Yes but, these were not popular or game changers. What I meant was the second surge of smartphones which started with the iPhone in 2007 and then the Android devices.
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Yes but, these were not popular or game changers. What I meant was the second surge of smartphones which started with the iPhone in 2007 and then the Android devices.
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Well as for the iPhone it took LOOONG time for ANY company to respond and probably one of the first real success was HTC HD2. As for SE I don't agree, X1 was very impressive, just the legacy was not continued.
SE used to make great smartphones. The whole "P" series was somehow special (i owned p910i and p1i) and the p1i is still my all-time favourite SE. Then they released the first xperia which was a worth replacement for the p1i. It was even better than its main rival at that time the htc touch pro.
but then they decided to f**k it all up and released the x2.. and then the x10..
Now they seem to be on the right track though with the 2011 series.
i just hope that the takeover from Sony wont affect their future smartphones too much
I still have the P910a. That phone is a classic! Has a physical qwerty keyboard, jog dial and touchscreen. The best of all worlds! Also has one of the loudest speakers in the industry. The phone had horrific battery life though and SE's Symbian UI wasn't that good. I had the w600i. Did anyone ever own that phone? Remember the battery door flying out easily? LOL. SE quickly recalled the devices. Tried fixing it then discontinued it. I had the p990i. That was a disaster. Then I went on to own a number of walkman series devices. The best selling w810i which I still have. My fave was the w995a which died on me.
My fave cybershot phone is still the k790a, still have that too. I love the candybar style. I had the C905a. I went through a lot of SE devices. I have the Arc now. I was thinking about getting the X10a just in case the Sony Ericsson
name is no longer. What do you guys think? Am I crazy? Please go easy on your responses. LOL
Whatever happens, I hope Sony Ericsson makes a comeback.
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I still have the P910a. That phone is a classic! Has a physical qwerty keyboard, jog dial and touchscreen. The best of all worlds! Also has one of the loudest speakers in the industry. The phone had horrific battery life though and SE's Symbian UI wasn't that good. I had the w600i. Did anyone ever own that phone? Remember the battery door flying out easily? LOL. SE quickly recalled the devices. Tried fixing it then discontinued it. I had the p990i. That was a disaster. Then I went on to own a number of walkman series devices. The best selling w810i which I still have. My fave was the w995a which died on me.
My fave cybershot phone is still the k790a, still have that too. I love the candybar style. I had the C905a. I went through a lot of SE devices. I have the Arc now. I was thinking about getting the X10a just in case the Sony Ericsson
name is no longer. What do you guys think? Am I crazy? Please go easy on your responses. LOL
Whatever happens, I hope Sony Ericsson makes a comeback.
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So you're a fellow Ericsson and SE fan!
I owned the Ericsson GH388, T18, T20, T68m, the SE K750i, C902i, X10a and now I have the Arc!
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So you're a fellow Ericsson and SE fan!
I owned the Ericsson GH388, T18, T20, T68m, the SE K750i, C902i, X10a and now I have the Arc!
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I sure am! I only listed half of the SE phones I have owned. What model was the Ericsson that was a blue candybar and it was a POS? Sorry but it was. LOL
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I sure am! I only listed half of the SE phones I have owned. What model was the Ericsson that was a blue candybar and it was a POS? Sorry but it was. LOL
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Was it the K850i?
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Was it the K850i?
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No it wasn't the k850i. It's a much older phone. It was a TDMA phone. It was under Ericsson. It had battery and battery door issues.
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No it wasn't the k850i. It's a much older phone. It was a TDMA phone. It was under Ericsson. It had battery and battery door issues.
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It must be the R300!
Sony Ericsson to become a wholly-owned subsidiary of Sony and integrated into Sony's broad platform of network-connected consumer electronics products
The transaction also provides Sony with a broad IP cross-licensing agreement and ownership of five essential patent families
Ericsson to receive EUR 1.05 billion cash payment
Sony and Ericsson to create wireless connectivity initiative to drive connectivity across multiple platforms
Ericsson (NASDAQ:ERIC) and Sony Corporation ("Sony") today announced that Sony will acquire Ericsson's 50 percent stake in Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB ("Sony Ericsson"), making the mobile handset business a wholly-owned subsidiary of Sony.
-Excerpt from the press release.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/sony-buys-out-ericssons-stake-in-joint-venture-assumes-ownersh/
Opinions??
Hoping this to be a great decision.
Lets Wait and Watch...
I hope they don't get rid of the green logo. its cool! Overall I think it is wise decision considering Sony with its potential should have been at least at par with other brands if not above. they make great phones. Delays and poor marketing are the only things that are holding them back.
Here in India, (where SE became no.2 for a brief period of time) nobody has heard of the phone Xperia arc. Whereas Galaxy phones hoardings and adverts are all over!
Now few patent licenses coming directly under their thumb may speed things up. Also we might see better integration of Sony's multimedia and gaming with the mobile business.
All the best Sony!
Just hoping to have even better Xperias.........
Better get your bootloaders unlocked before sony pull the page...
I hope the phones still look just as sexy and have better features than now. If it goes worse then I dont even know what ill go for . I only like sony phones.
soldiers33 said:
I hope the phones still look just as sexy and have better features than now. If it goes worse then I dont even know what ill go for . I only like sony phones.
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Me too!!!!!......
Sony has confirmed today that they will acquire Ericsson’s 50% stake in the company for EUR 1.05 billion in cash ($1,47 billion US dollar)
The separation won't be finalized, however, until January 2012, pending regulatory approval.
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Sony has confirmed today that they will acquire Ericsson’s 50% stake in the company for EUR 1.05 billion in cash ($1,47 billion US dollar)
The separation won't be finalized, however, until January 2012, pending regulatory approval.
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Oh yeah. Im wondering what will happen to the rumored phone Sony Ericsson Nozomi. Will it be scrapped altogether or just a rebranding when they announce it?
Will there be a logo and font revamp? Hmm.
I remembered one of their great camera phones, the K750! From the year 2005 I think.
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Better get your bootloaders unlocked before sony pull the page...
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Haha. Just like the removal of the other OS support for the PS3. Lol.
I don't think it will affect the phone because most probably they will keep the employees and designers so they will still produce the same quality phones. They might redesign the logo most companies does that to spread the word
i hope that our Xperia phones will be still supported from Sony :S
And now what about ICS 4.0 ?
Will Sony release it or does they change the Ideas on how and what to Update ?
I am very skeptical about this. There was a reason why both companies joined forces in 2001. Sony SUCKED at making mobile phones!! And Ericsson was not doing too well either.
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I am very skeptical about this. There was a reason why both companies joined forces in 2001. Sony SUCKED at making mobile phones!! And Ericsson was not doing too well either.
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To be fair they only made a couple before. They bought a brand instead of building one internally and now they are fine. Good news is the designs have been all Sony and probably will stay top tier.
hopefully we will see a killer phone with sony OLED screen with Bravia Engine wonder when will that day will come =__=
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Agree. If they have pulled the page, and done. Ur not be able to unlock ur arc.
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dubist said:
i hope that our Xperia phones will be still supported from Sony :S
And now what about ICS 4.0 ?
Will Sony release it or does they change the Ideas on how and what to Update ?
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Sony will bring good things to us.. wait and watch!
I guess we will get great integration, great adds, great drm ....
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I do believe it's going to great step for us, Sony have many partners and they work great with them
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in the post below it seems as sony is saying that it wont be making anymore phones
Sony president and CEO Sir Howard Stringer has just addressed the media on the proposed buyout and confirmed that the company will indeed move away from feature phones, as previously stated. This effectively heralds the death of the Walkman line and the dawn of Sony's exclusively Android era, though Stringer's not ruling out the possibility of bringing another OS on board. When asked whether his firm would consider buying webOS, the exec said simply, "Never say never."
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/sony-buys-out-ericssons-stake-in-joint-venture-assumes-ownersh/
**This post isn't about the Xperia ZL. It's about the mistake Sony made in releasing two phones this year.
Way to screw up Sony. Hardly any public attention is being given to the ZL variant because you decided to release two phones with the same specs, but lavish all your advertising on the glassy backed one so you could market a waterproof gimmick. Sony made so little noise about the ZL version that everyone will ignore it. The developer support for the ZL is probably going to suck. And I'm going to bet you'll provide the Z faster OTA updates than the ZL too judging by how they've handled the launch. On the other hand, HTC is doing it right. One phone, one focus on marketing and support. You hear lots coming out of the Samsung advertising machine about the SG4. Anyone hearing much about the Xperia Z, let alone the ZL? Cricket....cricket.... Even XDA's mods think the ZL is safe to ignore because you can't even find the ZL forums from the main forum page, but have to go through either Devices or the sticky thread in the Z forum.
We all know that Samsung, HTC and Sony will probably stop updating the Android OS version on these phones in about 1 year (approximate). If I buy the HTC One I'm probably going to stand a much better chance of getting developer ROM's than I will on the ZL because you've allowed this phone to become forgotten and ignored right from launch. You should've taken a cue from HTC and just released the Z, and no ZL at all. Instead you've scattered your launch with 2 variants and made sure that we cannot buy both of them on every carrier. Stupid, stupid move. /facepalm. However, the SG4 and HTC One will be available on all carriers.
Nice going Sony. Whoever you have in charge of the "great idea" department who thought releasing two versions of the same phone with different feature sets and bodies but the same specs, only advertising one of them, and then deciding to only release one of them on some carriers and the other on the rest should be fired. You've just guaranteed yourself a 3rd place finish at best. Good job striving for excellence!.
Why don't you tell this to Sony.
I really don't care what they do and i am enjoying what i have between my hands.
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Sony gave people more options to choose from! What is wrong with them?
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gm007 said:
Why don't you tell this to Sony.
I really don't care what they do and i am enjoying what i have between my hands.
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Thanks, actually, I already have written their advertising dept, as well as left a Twitter for their VP of marketing over a month before launch. It's too late now. The HTC One and SG4 are all you read about at the top of every smartphone and tech news feeds. Hardly a whisper about the Z. That's going to translate into sales and support.
pongnamu said:
Sony gave people more options to choose from! What is wrong with them?
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Sarcasm doesn't work unless the company you're talking about has a big success like the Galaxy line and can afford to split sales. Good game, thanks for coming.
So you came here to advertise sam and htc phones?
I don't think you are welcomed here.
We are tired from such s**t threads.
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So you came here to advertise sam and htc phones?
I don't think you are welcomed here.
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ahhh ok, I'm sorry I get it now. You just want to be a rabid smartphone evangelist for Sony. And here I was thinking I wouldn't be wasting my time typing rational responses to you. Carry on with your pitchfork sir, the torches and throwing stones are in aisle 7.
We don't need sam and htc fanboys here,this thread should be closed.
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I agree on 2 points:
1. No point in having 2 phones with same specs (Z and ZL) obviously the Z is far more popular and it seems like a waste of development money and resources creating the ZL when the Z is superior in design.
2. Not enough advertising and carrier support. Still no word on a North American release date and carrier support which is crazy. Sony are missing out on a huge market here by giving it to HTC and Samsung instead. Terrible move on their part.
However I just bought a Z and I think it's easily the best phone I've ever used.
I've used an S3, Note 2 and One X+ and the Z is superior in all aspects.
Sure, the new S4 and One is coming which will be better but for now the Z is the best phone on the market. It's well designed and the Sony UI is fantastic and minimal which I like.
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We don't need sam and htc fanboys here,this thread should be closed.
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The only irrational fanboy here is you. I don't own either of those companies. In fact I dislike Samsung. I'm considering HTC because Sony obviously still doesn't get it. Whether your report button gets this closed or not, we'll see how your point of view pans out when the Z sales tank behind the SG4 and One just like the "James Bond" phone did. Hopefully Sony will finally learn for their 2014 phone and not fragment their phones into irrelevancy.
I hope your thread will give Sony a lesson LOL.
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I agree on 2 points:
1. No point in having 2 phones with same specs (Z and ZL) obviously the Z is far more popular and it seems like a waste of development money and resources creating the ZL when the Z is superior in design.
2. Not enough advertising and carrier support. Still no word on a North American release date and carrier support which is crazy. Sony are missing out on a huge market here by giving it to HTC and Samsung instead. Terrible move on their part.
However I just bought a Z and I think it's easily the best phone I've ever used.
I've used an S3, Note 2 and One X+ and the Z is superior in all aspects.
Sure, the new S4 and One is coming which will be better but for now the Z is the best phone on the market. It's well designed and the Sony UI is fantastic and minimal which I like.
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Thank you, great points. I wish Sony had just scrapped the ZL. Because they're not going to make the Z available on all carriers, but are giving others the ZL instead, I can't see how this possibly could be good for Sony. If gm stopped typing nasty little temper tantrum little boy replies for a minute he'd get that I'd rather see Sony succeed than fail.
Rickard Skogberg (the high up marketing guy who ran the S(E) blog before) said they made two devices because the operators wanted it. Simple as that
omnius1 said:
Thank you, great points. I wish Sony had just scrapped the ZL. Because they're not going to make the Z available on all carriers, but are giving others the ZL instead, I can't see how this possibly could be good for Sony. If gsm stopped typing nasty little temper tantrum little boy replies for a minute he'd get that I'd rather see Sony succeed than fail.
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The phones will still be available unlocked through Sony stores though.
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Rickard Skogberg (the high up marketing guy who ran the S(E) blog before) said they made two devices because the operators wanted it. Simple as that
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I'll take that with a grain of salt. Carriers and OEM's have a bad habit of pointing the finger at each other until you can never get to the truth.
The fact they have almost identical specs means that it'll be a case of anything working on the XZ working on the ZL unless I'm very much mistaken. /thread
ZL is crap. The design is ugly.
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It's too late now. The HTC One and SG4 are all you read about at the top of every smartphone and tech news feeds. Hardly a whisper about the Z. That's going to translate into sales and support.
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Ok here we go again.... What should I write this time....
The fact that YOU only hear about the HTC One and Galaxy S 4 (I don't hear anything about the Galaxy S 4 in the Netherlands) doesn't really have to do anything about which phone being better, Samsung/HTC spend more money/time advertizing their products. Heck I can't even remember ever seeing a commercial/Advertisement about a Sony phone in this case, so that's not something from 2012 or 13.
Edit: You can look at this in 2 ways:
1: Your way
2: Like someone said before, some people want to have a choice, some people don't have that much money, some people don't need waterproof.
So which one is the correct way? Answer: There is no correct way, it's all based on your perspective.
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The only irrational fanboy here is you. I don't own either of those companies. In fact I dislike Samsung. I'm considering HTC because Sony obviously still doesn't get it. Whether your report button gets this closed or not, we'll see how your point of view pans out when the Z sales tank behind the SG4 and One just like the "James Bond" phone did. Hopefully Sony will finally learn for their 2014 phone and not fragment their phones into irrelevancy.
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You don't have either of those phones (none of the 3 to be exact), but yet you're saying that the Z is worse? then the HTC One/SG4. Or did I get it wrong? " I'm considering HTC because Sony obviously still doesn't get it." So you're not choosing the Xperia Z/ZL only because of "poor marketing"? And there I thought that you were buying a phone and not a company, in the end who cares how companies advertise their products? If their products are good then it doesn't matter at all. Because in the end you don't buy an advertisement(At least you're not supposed to even though in this world people buy advertisements looking at how good crApple products are selling), you buy a product.
In my opinion it really doesn't matter (but I guess you noticed that already looking at what I wrote above). I'd rather be unique be the only one with an Xperia Z, instead of being a sheep and owning a phone that everyone else has. That's why I owned a Samsung Galaxy Note before the XZ instead of having a Galaxy S II for example.
Bottom line: The HTC One/ Galaxy S 4 aren't out yet (At least not here in Europe if I'm correct) the Xperia Z is, so even if you want to compare them in real life situations to see which phone is "best", YOU CAN'T!:angel:
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Ok here we go again.... What should I write this time....
The fact that YOU only hear about the HTC One and Galaxy S 4 (I don't hear anything about the Galaxy S 4 in the Netherlands) doesn't really have to do anything about which phone being better, Samsung/HTC spend more money/time advertizing their products. Heck I can't even remember ever seeing a commercial/Advertisement about a Sony phone in this case, so that's not something from 2012 or 13.
Edit: You can look at this in 2 ways:
1: Your way
2: Like someone said before, some people want to have a choice, some people don't have that much money, some people don't need waterproof.
So which one is the correct way? Answer: There is no correct way, it's all based on your perspective.
You don't have either of those phones (none of the 3 to be exact), but yet you're saying that the Z is worse? then the HTC One/SG4. Or did I get it wrong? " I'm considering HTC because Sony obviously still doesn't get it." So you're not choosing the Xperia Z/ZL only because of "poor marketing"? And there I thought that you were buying a phone and not a company, in the end who cares how companies advertise their products? If their products are good then it doesn't matter at all. Because in the end you don't buy an advertisement(At least you're not supposed to even though in this world people buy advertisements looking at how good crApple products are selling), you buy a product.
In my opinion it really doesn't matter (but I guess you noticed that already looking at what I wrote above). I'd rather be unique be the only one with an Xperia Z, instead of being a sheep and owning a phone that everyone else has. That's why I owned a Samsung Galaxy Note before the XZ instead of having a Galaxy S II for example.
Bottom line: The HTC One/ Galaxy S 4 aren't out yet (At least not here in Europe if I'm correct) the Xperia Z is, so even if you want to compare them in real life situations to see which phone is "best", YOU CAN'T!:angel:
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You're missing the point. If a phone has a stronger presence in public perception and is properly marketed then as long as the design and quality are fine, they will sell more. If the phone is quietly launched and doesn't make many waves then there are side effects: Lower sales = less people using the phone. The trickle-down effect to this are things like less likelihood of many people caring about timely OTA updates, possibly lower developer support for ROM's once Sony decides to EOL the Z for OS updates, small number of accessories like docks and cases, etc.
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You're missing the point. If a phone has a stronger presence in public perception and is properly marketed then as long as the design and quality are fine, they will sell more.
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Why do you think that I don't get the point?
The fact will always remain that we can't change anything about the situation. Of course better marketing means better sales.
If you know it better why don't you make your own company and show Sony the correct way (Not flaming you). Sony has been at the top of electronic devices for more then 3 decades so these people must know what they are doing. This is the first phone since from Sony since they were separated from Ericsson so maybe they need to do some more trial and error before things go better.