Im sure im not the only one thats moved from an iPhone from the Aria and has questions about Android. Im making this thread so we can keep all of our noobish questions in one place to make them easier for everyone to deal with. If you have any questions post them up here hopefully some of our very helpful more experienced Android users will chime in.
(this thread would probably do better in the general forum)
I'm trying to figure out the contact management. Seems like some screens show my gmail "my contacts" and others show all my gmail contacts. And I can't figure out what the linking feature does
I'm trying to install swype. I got the installer onto the phone via adb, but thanks to AT&T blocking sideloading I cant get any further, running the installer gives me the same message when you try to sideload.
Do I need to find an apk for swype instead of using swype's own installer?
i agree with moving the thread... so i did!
Shad0wguy said:
I'm trying to install swype. I got the installer onto the phone via adb, but thanks to AT&T blocking sideloading I cant get any further, running the installer gives me the same message when you try to sideload.
Do I need to find an apk for swype instead of using swype's own installer?
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This is one thing I want to try but havent gotten around to it. I think your two options are to root and sideload or just side load using this method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706887
Shad0wguy said:
I'm trying to install swype. I got the installer onto the phone via adb, but thanks to AT&T blocking sideloading I cant get any further, running the installer gives me the same message when you try to sideload.
Do I need to find an apk for swype instead of using swype's own installer?
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I used the .apk from here: forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6778324&postcount=11
(sorry, I couldn't use the URL tag cuz they're disabled from me since I'm new).
Donatron said:
I used the .apk from here: forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6778324&postcount=11
(sorry, I couldn't use the URL tag cuz they're disabled from me since I'm new).
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That should work, thank you.
I also wish there was another way to wake up the phone. either the joystiq or double tap a button. I'm afraid my power button is gonna wear out
Here's a newbish question from a (soon to be former) Win Mobile user...
I need to sync appointments, tasks and contacts with my computer at work.
Can someone give me a rundown of the different ways to sync with Outlook?
I don't mind spending a little bit of money on an app. I want something that syncs reliably, and something that has a data structure similar to Outlook's (i.e. I'd like to not lose categories, appointment recurrances, privacy options, etc..).
I don't care about having my work email sent or copied to my phone or anything like that.
ShinerDraft said:
Here's a newbish question from a (soon to be former) Win Mobile user...
I need to sync appointments, tasks and contacts with my computer at work.
Can someone give me a rundown of the different ways to sync with Outlook?
I don't mind spending a little bit of money on an app. I want something that syncs reliably, and something that has a data structure similar to Outlook's (i.e. I'd like to not lose categories, appointment recurrances, privacy options, etc..).
I don't care about having my work email sent or copied to my phone or anything like that.
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I am in the same boat as you. i have heard that HTC Sync is supposed to do that, but i don't have an Aria so i can't tell you how well it works. You could give it a try first since it's free. Another one i've heard of is Companion Link
HTC Sync & Outlook
The Aria does support Activesync, so you can utilize connections to an Exchange server. Also, HTC Sync does allow for contacts, calendar, etc. to be synced with Outlook as well. Just got mine yesterday and synced 965 contacts with HTC Sync and had no problems.
tomlogan1 said:
The Aria does support Activesync, so you can utilize connections to an Exchange server. Also, HTC Sync does allow for contacts, calendar, etc. to be synced with Outlook as well. Just got mine yesterday and synced 965 contacts with HTC Sync and had no problems.
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So if you have ActiveSync installed on your PC, you just plug the Aria in and ActiveSync works like it does on a WinMo phone?
That seems pretty darn easy.
Ive just switched to the Aria after being under the Apple curtain. I like the text input options, especially using Swype. But how do you scroll over words in url's like the iphone can? On the iphone if you hold your finger over the word, w/o releasing and scroll left or right it will move the cursor too. This function is vital to word correction.
thanks
ShinerDraft said:
So if you have ActiveSync installed on your PC, you just plug the Aria in and ActiveSync works like it does on a WinMo phone?
That seems pretty darn easy.
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I THINK active sync is for direct sync with your exchange server OTA. If you want to sync over USB, you need to use HTC Sync. I was wondering how well it worked. It's nice to hear it worked well.
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So if you have ActiveSync installed on your PC, you just plug the Aria in and ActiveSync works like it does on a WinMo phone?
That seems pretty darn easy.
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You will need HTC Sync. Activsync is for windows mobile phones and Outlook. HTC Sync will sync calendar and contacts.
http://www.htc.com/us/support/aria-att/downloads/
The link feature is to link a contact from your contact list to a Friend on Face book or Twitter.
tycon said:
You will need HTC Sync. Activsync is for windows mobile phones and Outlook. HTC Sync will sync calendar and contacts.
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Yep, I was able to get calendar & contacts all done last night with no problem. I also used tasks quite a bit in Outlook/WinMo, but that doesn't sync over. No biggie. I'll just have to find another task management app.
hashbrown said:
Ive just switched to the Aria after being under the Apple curtain. I like the text input options, especially using Swype. But how do you scroll over words in url's like the iphone can? On the iphone if you hold your finger over the word, w/o releasing and scroll left or right it will move the cursor too. This function is vital to word correction.
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From another previous iPhone user, the best thing to do is to press your finger (not hold, just press) as close to the word you want to correct as best as you can. If you're a little off - use the optical trackpad to move the cursor over to the right spot. If you use Swype too, if your cursor is touching the word you can press the Swype button on the buttom left of the virtual keyboard and it will select the whole word and provide other words to correct it with.
what does ADW Launcher do, and is it a must have?
what are your thoughts on Advanced Task Killer, or Task Killers in general? i have heard mixed feelings about task killers.
still trying to sort out everything there is about Android!
froggyarts said:
From another previous iPhone user, the best thing to do is to press your finger (not hold, just press) as close to the word you want to correct as best as you can. If you're a little off - use the optical trackpad to move the cursor over to the right spot. If you use Swype too, if your cursor is touching the word you can press the Swype button on the buttom left of the virtual keyboard and it will select the whole word and provide other words to correct it with.
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This is what Ive been looking for. Much easier editing now. It seemed like the display Aria at At&t had an extra app installed that did this. It highlighted everything making the words purple and had lightning symbols around the sentences highlighted. Im going back to store to see what they had installed to make it look like that.
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Anyone know of a way I can use it without syncing my contacts?
I don't want it even touching my contact list as it adds all these contacts which I don't want on my device and when I remove them here it echoes the changes on my real desktop contact list. Luckily I had a contact list backed up on my desktop pc so I restored it.
So...anyone know how I can use Live Messenger Beta without letting it touch my contacts?
I guess you could disable the syncing of contacts altogether on ActiveSync?
It would stop any contacts syncing but it's the only thing that really comes to mind at the moment
It's a part of WLM, and I don't think you can disable it.
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athiqueahmed said:
Anyone know of a way I can use it without syncing my contacts?
I don't want it even touching my contact list as it adds all these contacts which I don't want on my device and when I remove them here it echoes the changes on my real desktop contact list. Luckily I had a contact list backed up on my desktop pc so I restored it.
So...anyone know how I can use Live Messenger Beta without letting it touch my contacts?
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When I installed WLM it installed two programmes on start menu:
Windows Live Messenger and
Windows Live
If I select Windows Live it opens a screen which has Menu option. Within this is an Options setting that then leads to an option called "Sync Options" with this there are tick boxes to deselect synching contacts and e-mail.
Perhaps that might solve your problem?
Mike
That option is actually 'Sync Contacts and Messenger'.
All I want is the second part of that option...I want to sync messenger so it works but not my contacts.
I personally havent sync`d my contacts yet...but looking a bit deeper into this matter i found some registry keys that might help you.
Just open the registry key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Service\Windows Live\Contacts\" there are a few options you can change. Maybe if you set the value "CanDoSync" to "0" it might actually stop syncing your contacts.
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I personally havent sync`d my contacts yet...but looking a bit deeper into this matter i found some registry keys that might help you.
Just open the registry key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Service\Windows Live\Contacts\" there are a few options you can change. Maybe if you set the value "CanDoSync" to "0" it might actually stop syncing your contacts.
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how do i get to there? i have total commander installed both on my device and desktop. but have no idea how to use them. any instructions would help please. yep thts right im a noob to all this
I just found this in a thread over in the Wizard forums.
Looks like maybe you don't HAVE to sync contacts anymore...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I just thought I'd come an taunt all you none beta testers! j/k
The new mobile client is now out!!! It's available on the Microsoft Connect website, and it's pretty damn good...
Feel free to ask any questions about it, i'll gladly answer.
Some of the new features include:
- Contant sync isn't compulsory any more!!! although the contact sync is more intelligent now, and it's much simpler an faster to sort out the initial sync.
- LARGE speed boost.
- New today/home screen applet (Displays search box, and MSN avatar and contact info (All is optional))
- Windows Live config screen.
- Contact avatars (you can have your own now).
- Personal Message support.
- Original MSN Messenger seems to be left un-touched.
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athiqueahmed said:
I just found this in one a thread over in the Wizard forums.
Looks like maybe you don't HAVE to sync contacts anymore...
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So any ideas when this version will be available.
I saw on that thread there are a few people experiancing the same problem. that the their msn contacts are getting added to thier device address book, which i find very annoying. and when you delete of the device it also deletes the contacts from your messenger list
if i was to get hold off msn messenger the one that worked on pocket pc 2002/2003, would it still work?
Dont suppose anyone would have it??
Where to download Live Messenger
Where can I download Live Messenger for the Hermes I have been looking and simply can not find it.
I saw on the connect website from Microsoft that there is a new version out since 16-12-2006. Has anyone been able to download this version already? If so, can someone give a review ?
Thanks
I've just applied to the beta program
hopefully I'm allowed in.
same i have also just joined. see what happens.
Could you guys upload the installer to the xda-devoloper ftp when you recieve it?
Somehow I'm not allowed to sign up for the beta. Perhaps it's the firewall here at school.
What are the latest news about it ?
Is this "contact sync problem" solved in this version and is this availaibe for download ?,
The versions I've tried you're still forced to sync with no other options
Plus theres been lots of problems even getting push with hotmail...the option just won't stick to "when they arrive" but stays on manual sync
is there an answer for this yet?
i would love to use windows live messenger, but hate getting some 250 contacts added to my contacts (in my phone)
/timmy
Just spent hours re-editing my contacts cos of live! eager to find a way of stopping it syncing but allowing me into messenger!
well is there a program that lets you put contacts into groups so that i could just filter all the live contacts?
a free one? or you know uhh one with a key?
falum: im the same as you, its a bastard to fix..
i wish this could be hacked at the moment, ive also found the WLM is pretty resource hungry, anyone else found this?
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I had an epiphany today, I want to share this idea, perhaps someone here has the knowledge to pull it off, unfortunately, I am not a C programmer:
Gmail already has built in RSS feeds. Every Gmail account hass RSS feeds for every label at https://mail.google.com/mail/feed/atom/LABEL/ (This also works for Apps at https://mail.google.com/a/DOMAIN.TLD/feed/atom/LABEL/ ).
The only requirement is that the feed reader support authentication.
Now lets bring pRSSreader into the equation (http://code.google.com/p/prssr/)
Supports SSL, Yes!
Supports Authntication, YES!
Source Code Available! GPL!
So to start: A competent developer begin with the pRSSreader code, change the UI a bit so that it will revolve around inputing gmail accounts and it will be able to read our mail)
The next step is to add a simple SMTP component that will send outgoing mail through the GMAIL smtp.
What do the smart people here think?
I'm not critisizing your idea by any means, but why not using the mobile JAVA app done by google?
It works flawlessly with JBED or JEODEK for WM. The functionality is also great. Of course, it's not native WM app, but it's still worth a while.
fbifbi said:
I'm not critisizing your idea by any means, but why not using the mobile JAVA app done by google?
It works flawlessly with JBED or JEODEK for WM. The functionality is also great. Of course, it's not native WM app, but it's still worth a while.
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URL for this mate?
fbifbi said:
I'm not critisizing your idea by any means, but why not using the mobile JAVA app done by google?
It works flawlessly with JBED or JEODEK for WM. The functionality is also great. Of course, it's not native WM app, but it's still worth a while.
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The JAVA app is great... except that the text font (including menu and everything) is too tiny and small on my Diamond. Otherwise it's great app...
Wiggz said:
URL for this mate?
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Go to m.gmail.com on your phone, and then download it. It should automatically recognize that you have a windows mobile phone and offer you the JAVA version to download.
fbifbi said:
Of course, it's not native WM app, but it's still worth a while.
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^^ that was the point of ethanpil's suggestion.
@ethanpil, I think it's a good idea, the only hole I see is that it's mostly for people who actually use the labels now, yes?
wait....maybe i'm not understanding u guys properly...u dont wanna use the mail program that it came with?? i have a diamond and i synced it to my outlook which has gmail..so when i'm on WIFI it vibrates when i get a gMail.....
so what is it that Java program do that this one doesn't??
Why not use Emoze? That has true push and works great with Gmail. Gmail also has a Exchange server for your calender and contacts.
sinara said:
The JAVA app is great... except that the text font (including menu and everything) is too tiny and small on my Diamond. Otherwise it's great app...
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sinara, look for VGA hacked JBED (here on XDA) - it solves problems with small fonts on our devices.
sinara said:
The JAVA app is great... except that the text font (including menu and everything) is too tiny and small on my Diamond. Otherwise it's great app...
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You can fix the font sizes with simple regedits.
Why do ppl want this?? Outlook can link to IMAP from google natively. Which All wm6 phones have...so why does anyone care about an external app that windows can do by default. I'm not discounting it or anything I'm just really confused on this issue
xcom923 said:
Why do ppl want this?? Outlook can link to IMAP from google natively. Which All wm6 phones have...so why does anyone care about an external app that windows can do by default. I'm not discounting it or anything I'm just really confused on this issue
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I am with you here, gmail with imap is the way to go. If your device automagically finds gmail settings, just misspell gmail when entering your email addy, then fix it after you have unchecked to automatically find settings.
I believe the reason for doing this is to get away from the built-in (WM) applications which for the most part suck. Not to mention that the emails are stored in a database and not in individual files (as in Qmail). Even if it was stored in a database, the database should be easily manipulated to allow for quick backup and recovery operations (SQLite?). Not to mention that such an application can implement great features like imap-idle and connecting over 1x/gprs to save battery life (and privates).
Just my two cents.
The reason is as many have guessed above:
1) The Java version sucks for WM users: its not native, and a few times alerady if I exited hastily by hitting the X instead of through the menus then my DB was corrupted and I had to reinstall the app
2) Something native will be able to take advantage of all of the features of WM and run in the background better.
3) The native apps also suck.
4) Push IMAP and activesync take horrendous battery power
Anyway, I have been using NewsBreak to read my gmail by RSS and it works great, updates once per hour, and runs real fast in background and I get notification of new emails and I only downlod the labels I need... Its just a pain to then login to gmail app to reply...
I have a small application (in VB.NET) that I am working on but in this moment it is "work in progress". I am able to connect to GMail over SSL in POP3, SMTP and IMAP.
In this moment I am trying out POP3 but I have some problems when downloading larger attachments from GMail (out-of-memory exceptions) which I have to sort out.
I guess I could make a native application for GMail - however the first beta version would not support attachments (at least larger attachmnets - let's say more than 200KB - until I have sorted out the problem mentioned above).
In order to produce a first version, I still would need some days but if there's interest, I could give it a shot.
Rgds,
Tilleke
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Add spellchecking to your applications.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495728
this would def worth a shot since it's a bunch of shareware ideas taken into an all in one freeware app to add to our collection of greatly developed freeware. i'd rather use a custom made freeware app that will always add features rather than waste memory with certain shareware programs just to have all the bells and whistles scattered across the cluttered memory
boog321 said:
I am with you here, gmail with imap is the way to go. If your device automagically finds gmail settings, just misspell gmail when entering your email addy, then fix it after you have unchecked to automatically find settings.
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I've been doing that since my 8525.. I can't believe that anyone would rather 'fight' with a 3rd party app.. I can see the argument for push, but if you really need up to date inbox, just get a scheduler to set your 'active' hours so you get faster updates when you need it. Typically I get emails at the same time though.
Hey,
I finally bought a new HD2
I've some problems,
1. I can't get Contact order to set as First Name First and Last Name last. Its just Last Name first now. How do I change that?
2. Also has anyone managed to get Google Exchange working properly? Im able to sync mails, but not Contacts or Calendar entries?
Will add more doubts if I come across.
P.S. Ive searched before posting. If I did miss, kindly show me the link
Tanmay® said:
Hey,
I finally bought a new HD2
I've some problems,
1. I can't get Contact order to set as First Name First and Last Name last. Its just Last Name first now. How do I change that?
2. Also has anyone managed to get Google Exchange working properly? Im able to sync mails, but not Contacts or Calendar entries?
Will add more doubts if I come across.
P.S. Ive searched before posting. If I did miss, kindly show me the link
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1. If you go to contacts, then select the contact, edit, and a few lines down is "file as". It's labourious so may be easier to do from a PC
If you go to "people", you need to go to the contact, edit, scroll down to reach "more" at the end and it puts you in the contact edit field described aboce.
2. No idea, sorry.
Google Sync working fine here using the settings as per their set up pages, Calender and Contacts working.
for mass managing of the contacts in the right order you can use 'contacts changer 1.3'
NZtechfreak said:
Google Sync working fine here using the settings as per their set up pages, Calender and Contacts working.
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note that google sync only works for your main calendar, if you have multiple calendars, others wont sync...
PaoloWeckl said:
for mass managing of the contacts in the right order you can use 'contacts changer 1.3'
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Thanks a lot brother! That made the task a whole lot simpler!
Just a note that Contacts changer is not free anymore.
Now another problem I've been facing is that, Im not able to Copy Paste in Contacts app. Like I want to Cut one fields details and put it in another field, but whenever I select the text, and try to tap on it inoder to hold and get the menu, the text gets deselected.
Im not able to Copy-Cut-Paste properly.
Tanmay® said:
Also has anyone managed to get Google Exchange working properly? Im able to sync mails, but not Contacts or Calendar entries?
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Be carefull because Google Sync doesn't support Task synchronization.
You've to disactivate it to be able to synchronize Contacts, Calendar & Mails.
^^ Yea bro. You're right! Tasks was the issue! Now everything works perfect
But the CopyPaste problem still exists for the Contacts app (among other random apps) Any solution for that?
I think the only solution is to install a keyboard that has Cut/Copy/Paste functions.
My favourite is Touchpal but there are others that do this.
Ironically the original WinMo keyboard did include the Ctrl key so these operations were possible
Tanmay® said:
^^ Yea bro. You're right! Tasks was the issue! Now everything works perfect
But the CopyPaste problem still exists for the Contacts app (among other random apps) Any solution for that?
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The problem exists in HTC's PEOPLE app but not in the CONTACTS app located in the Outlook folder in the START menu.
Tanmay® said:
Thanks a lot brother! That made the task a whole lot simpler!
Just a note that Contacts changer is not free anymore.
Now another problem I've been facing is that, Im not able to Copy Paste in Contacts app. Like I want to Cut one fields details and put it in another field, but whenever I select the text, and try to tap on it inoder to hold and get the menu, the text gets deselected.
Im not able to Copy-Cut-Paste properly.
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Tanmay® said:
^^ Yea bro. You're right! Tasks was the issue! Now everything works perfect
But the CopyPaste problem still exists for the Contacts app (among other random apps) Any solution for that?
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Copy and paste works fine for me in contacts, just tap on the field, then tap and hold, menu pops up and select Cut, Copy, etc...
kassor said:
note that google sync only works for your main calendar, if you have multiple calendars, others wont sync...
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after using oggsync (app install needed on the phone) for more than one year, i just discovered nuevasync (no install, use activsync), it can sync till 11calendar with free account, contacts, etc... seems to work very great
HTC Sync™ lets you synchronize Outlook and Windows Address Book (Outlook Express), contacts and calendar events on your PC with your phone. It also lets you install third-party Android applications on the phone, and the Mobile Network sharing function as well.
HTC Sync 3.0.5372
http://www.4shared.com/file/v5zvg8G8/HTCSync305372exe.html
I like the 3rd party app addition. Now let's see if it actually works.
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App
HTC Sync Update for HTC Aria™ (AT&T) (3.0.5372) | 07.09.2010
HTC Sync™ lets you synchronize Outlook and Windows Address Book (Outlook Express), contacts and calendar events on your PC with your phone. It also lets you install third-party Android applications on the phone, and the Mobile Network sharing function as well.
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Hmm... Mobile Network sharing function...
I wonder if maybe this will allow me to root my ARIA? the 2.0.38 or however they show the version numbers had not been seeing my phone no matter what I tried.
_Opiate_ said:
I like the 3rd party app addition. Now let's see if it actually works.
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I used it today. Nice and easy. Forget about all of the other methods, this is the winner.
gtg465x said:
Hmm... Mobile Network sharing function...
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I didn't see anything about that in the software. Where is it?
I can not find the software for htc synch for my aria and not much info on the phone even on htc's website.
they change the info on it. has anyone download it sense they change the info to see if they took out this stuff. " It also lets you install third-party Android applications on the phone, and the Mobile Network sharing function as well."
smis said:
I can not find the software for htc synch for my aria and not much info on the phone even on htc's website.
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http://www.htc.com/us/support/aria-att/downloads/
Anyone want to download this and reupp it somewhere where we dont need an aria serial? Thanks
AstainHellbring said:
Anyone want to download this and reupp it somewhere where we dont need an aria serial? Thanks
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I was thinking the same thing as i refuse to register my device just to download sync software, it was not like this when i downloaded HTC_Sync_2.0.38 a few weeks ago, and i can download HTC_Sync_2.0.40 without registering a serial easily and use it with no issues, matter a fact i was using HTC_Sync_2.0.40 to sync my outlook and calender even before HTC_Sync_2.0.38 was released so why make us register the device?
Here ya go - http://gruberphotos.com/download/
used it to get swype on stock non rooted aria, little slow but worked just fine.
darkstarinc said:
Here ya go -
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Thank you
Cheers.........
Ok, after using this new version i must say that its a step backwards. I like the new GUI and all the eye candy and the ability to install .APK files but it lacks the basic functionality that the HTC_Sync_2.0.38 had.
For instance the old version told you at a glance the number of contacts in outlook and events on the outlook calender, where it is at during the contact syncing and calender syncing. It also gave you more advanced options on syncing.
On this new version Outlook must be set as you default mail client for it to connect with it which is completely bogus. On first connect the device synced on it own using the latest modified data which created duplicated in outlook and my phone, deleted the duplicates from my phone and tried to sync again and it completely wiped the data from outlook, i used the nandroid to restore the contacts to the phone and tried to sync again to get everything back where it was.
A bit angry with the music syncing. The files sync to /Music/ then the full file directory. so if you music is stored in c/:users/username/my documents/music you media wll be synced in the same structure /Music/c/users/username/my documents/music which is more complex than it needs to be. A simple music folder with music/Artist/album is sufficient. Then it took 1 hour to sync 3.8GB of music, that same 3.8 GB takes less than 15 if i remove the card from the device and put in in the card reader.
Long story shorty, im reverting back to HTC_Sync_2.0.40. Sometimes less is more.
Funny that now the new sync is no longer availble on HTC site and the link was changed back to HTC_Sync_2.0.38
http://www.htc.com/us/support/aria-att/downloads/
Hmmm...
You probably want to get on the ball with finding this software as it really has been pulled from the site. Some people have upped the new version for download, so do a search, grab it while its hot and sit on it if you want to sideload with the software (without rooting).
Edit: You can grab it from this thread if you don't have it already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=722432&page=2
So the 3rd party app works.. but what about the network sharing thing?
eortizr said:
So the 3rd party app works.. but what about the network sharing thing?
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Network sharing does not work.
Only App side loading.
Mhyst said:
You can grab it from this thread if you don't have it already
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I downloaded this one, the one from HTC's site (before it was removed) and even tried the old version (.38) and NONE of them recognize my phone when I plug it in and tell the phone to use HTC Sync. The phone tries to find it running on my PC but can't. Any ideas? I'm running Win7 64.
Ok, I already know all the benefits of Android over WinMo. I'm not here to start a flame war. I just want to get at least some of the functionality I had with my Touch Pro 2. I'm really struggling here....
I'll list the problems I'm trying to surmount, in order of most important to least:
1) In-Call Recording: It worked perfect on my TP2 (legal in Colorado). I just hit Menu > Record. Every app I've tried on the Market sucks. If it even records at all (without a Force Close), I have to have it on speakerphone. With the TP2, it didn't matter if I was holding the phone, using Bluetooth, or had it on speaker. It just recorded... and very clearly. I saw one developer mention this is a hardware/software limitation. Will this ever be overcome?
2) Lack of sync options (primarily, text messages): Windows ActiveSync with Exchange was PERFECT. I could sync not just mail, contact, and calendar... but I could also sync Tasks (which is how I get most of my work done) and text messages (which was great for archival). A benefit of synching text messages was that I could send/receive/reply to texts from Outlook or Outlook webmail. Plus, if I had to flash my phone, all my texts were back after I set up my mail account. Will Android ever get to this level?
3) Mail folders: All I see is a giant, alphabetical list of email folders at the top of my Inbox. If I want to get to my "Mustang Stuff" folder (where all my Mustang-related thread notifications go), I've gotta spin the begeezus out of that list until I get to it. I don't want every folder in that list. There are archival folders (that start with the date in number format) that of course show up first. Not to mention, I have so many folders, that getting to the end (where Sent, Deleted, and Drafts) are, is a real PITA.
4) Bluetooth Functionality = Fail: I can't voice dial from my earpiece. I need this or I'll be running people off the road. This is something so fundamental, I can't believe Android was rolled out w/o it working. I've heard Froyo will fix this. Is that true? Will I be able to touch the button on my earpiece and "call, friend" without having to pick up my phone?
5) Answering calls on headset while BT earpiece is on: Again, something so fundamental.... With a Windows phone, if my earpiece is in my pocket and I answer the call with the phone itself, I can talk through the phone. Windows was able to tell if I answered the phone with the handset. If I wanted to switch to BT, I simply put it in my ear and hit the button. With the Android phone, I have to answer the call, then press the "headset" button. Not a huge deal, but definitely annoying.
That's about it for now. There are others, but they're pretty minor. These are the big ones.
Can anyone help/provide advice?
Sadly its all down to drivers. I don't even know if the sgs has hardware to record voice as early HTC phones didn't have like my Titan. Also you must understand android is not as mature as winmo (8 years for phone edition), like all new software it will have teething problems. Hell winmo 6.1 had heaps more problems then Droid 2. 1. We just need to be patient. Also what do you expect with syncin as ms controlled the OS and your apps. Shame we don't have that with but goggle isn't a OS company. There's always 3rd party apps to help you sync exchange. Ask around. I miss task and notes from Outlook but I've converted over to springboard, give it go as desktop ver is coming out soon. Evernote is good also with great desktop but sucky Droid app.
'Backup to gmail' is a good paid app that backs up sms/mms and call logs. Also does kies not do Outlook sync? I don't use kies or outlook anymore so I don't know as I've converted to using cloud based apps which ms is already trying to do with winmo 7
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coming from HTC WM phone i'm extremely happy about the move.
1 - just keep checking out difference call recording software from Market, personally i've not found any good one yet.
2 - to "sync" or backup SMS messages, i use the titan backup, which you can backup to your Gmail account
3 - no problem here as i use gmail
4 - working great for me for Audio and Stereo and Remote features
5 - same as 4 works perfectly out of the box
Car Deck is a Clarion CZ509 (sub, amps, & speakers... off topic ), stereo ear piece is Jabra BT8010 and/or Moto HT820
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Of course, I have to agree with a lot you've said. WinMo has been around forever. 6.1 was kind of a fail, but so was 1.5-1.6 on Android. 2.x leaves us in a much better state.
When I compare WinMo 6.5 and Android 2.1, I feel WinMo is still the better OS. I'll have to see what 2.2 brings to the table, though. All that voice activation should be good.
As for the drivers, I hope this is overcome... just like it was in Windows. There are still many phones that can't do it. All of my latest phones have been HTC phones, and all could do it without issue.
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Are you running Android 2.2? There is a rumor that answering from a headset with a BT device on will now act "smart".
no 2.2 yet,
still on stock firmware JH2
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3) voice dial via Bluetooth is in Froyo as is http://www.google.com/mobile/voice-actions/
I just found another ridiculousness that needs resolution.
I cannot download a .rar or a .zip file using the Android browser. Seriously... wtf?
My son was playing a game on his DSi Acekard that needed updated software (a legitimate backup, of course). So I head over to GBATemp.net to get the latest software. It was in rar forum, so I figured "No problem, I'll just hit the market after".
When I go to download, it says something to the effect of "this type of download is not supported".
So using an RDP program, I log onto my home PC, download the rar and convert it to .zip (thinking the problem was with the rar file itself). In addition, I put it on my own web server.
When I go to download, same message.
On my Windows phone I could download/extract Rar/Zip files all day long. How can something so fundamental be blocked by Android?
Flapjack said:
1) In-Call Recording: It worked perfect on my TP2 (legal in Colorado). I just hit Menu > Record. Every app I've tried on the Market sucks. If it even records at all (without a Force Close), I have to have it on speakerphone. With the TP2, it didn't matter if I was holding the phone, using Bluetooth, or had it on speaker. It just recorded... and very clearly. I saw one developer mention this is a hardware/software limitation. Will this ever be overcome?
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This is a hardware level restriction, Android requires that the call steam be un-interceptable at a software level. It simply cannot be recorded like you want. The best apps can do is set the mic to record one side of the conversation (using speakerphone loopback) and actively record what you say at the same time. It's defiantely not ideal.
You might want to look into using something like Google Voice, that lets you record all your calls sever-side.
EDIT: Some phones allow this, in which case try using this... http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.killermobile.totalrecall.trial/
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2) Lack of sync options (primarily, text messages): Windows ActiveSync with Exchange was PERFECT. I could sync not just mail, contact, and calendar... but I could also sync Tasks (which is how I get most of my work done) and text messages (which was great for archival). A benefit of synching text messages was that I could send/receive/reply to texts from Outlook or Outlook webmail. Plus, if I had to flash my phone, all my texts were back after I set up my mail account. Will Android ever get to this level?
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Install an app called SMS Backup+, it automatically syncs your SMS with Gmail as proper threads, and you can both read and reply to them in GMail, aswell as import them into another android phone. ( The sync is only active in one direction however, you need to manually 'restore' from GMail if you use another phone. )
As for tasks, you should give Astrid a try, it has full RTM (Remember The Milk) sync support and can manage your tasks very well.
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3) Mail folders: All I see is a giant, alphabetical list of email folders at the top of my Inbox. If I want to get to my "Mustang Stuff" folder (where all my Mustang-related thread notifications go), I've gotta spin the begeezus out of that list until I get to it. I don't want every folder in that list. There are archival folders (that start with the date in number format) that of course show up first. Not to mention, I have so many folders, that getting to the end (where Sent, Deleted, and Drafts) are, is a real PITA.
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Obviously you aren't using GMail. I can't vouch for the crappy (others) e-mail client that comes with this phone.
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4) Bluetooth Functionality = Fail: I can't voice dial from my earpiece. I need this or I'll be running people off the road. This is something so fundamental, I can't believe Android was rolled out w/o it working. I've heard Froyo will fix this. Is that true? Will I be able to touch the button on my earpiece and "call, friend" without having to pick up my phone?
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I was under the impression that this worked already, but I guess not. You could setup shortcuts to otherwise bring up voice dial by pressing a shortcut, then it would work... :\
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5) Answering calls on headset while BT earpiece is on: Again, something so fundamental.... With a Windows phone, if my earpiece is in my pocket and I answer the call with the phone itself, I can talk through the phone. Windows was able to tell if I answered the phone with the handset. If I wanted to switch to BT, I simply put it in my ear and hit the button. With the Android phone, I have to answer the call, then press the "headset" button. Not a huge deal, but definitely annoying.
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Are you saying that if your bluetooth headset is paired and you want to answer the call using the phone itself and not the headset, you have to click a button to disengage the headset? Again bluetooth is not very well integrated, it's a shame but at least it's not impossible to do what you want. :\
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I cannot download a .rar or a .zip file using the Android browser. Seriously... wtf?
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The problem here is the stock browser doesn't want to download files that aren't compatible with the android system, the easy fix is to install any file manager in the market that can handle ZIP or RAR. You won't need to open them (of course you can though) when you download them but it will certainly download the file for you.
Alternatively you could choose another browser that doesn't care about compatibility in downloaded file types.
There might be an option for this but I'm not aware of it.
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2) Lack of sync options (primarily, text messages): Windows ActiveSync with Exchange was PERFECT. I could sync not just mail, contact, and calendar... but I could also sync Tasks (which is how I get most of my work done) and text messages (which was great for archival). A benefit of synching text messages was that I could send/receive/reply to texts from Outlook or Outlook webmail. Plus, if I had to flash my phone, all my texts were back after I set up my mail account. Will Android ever get to this level?
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There's an app in the market called GTasks. It syncs two-way with Google tasks (which you can find in Gmail, Google calendar, and which you can also access on your phone by going to gmail.com/tasks. The app is ad-supported, but you can also buy a key to remove the ads. It also comes with a very simple widget.
A lot of your comments seem to be related to Androids handling of Outlook integration.
You have to realize, Android is not made by Microsoft. Third party outlook integrations will never be as good as theirs. Android is geared to sync with google apps and the cloud.
That said, I have heard the best exchange client for Android is TouchDown http://www.nitrodesk.com/dk_touchdownFeatures.aspx It's not free though.
As for all your bluetooth questions... I am not having any problems with Bluetooth at all. Maybe it is your headset?
I came from Windows mobile and I too find a few things in Android annoying, but trying to go back is not even an option. Downsides of WinMo are far fewer than downsides of Android.
I'd rather just get an HD2 and be done with it. You are too much dependent on Windows Mobile and that's not a bad thing since it's pretty much worked for you well. I'm just saying, if it's become too much of a hassle to stay on Android, why bother?
Or you can have a WinMo device AND an Android!
Ok, I'm back. Overall, I love the phone. I've had some nasty episodes with )(*#$Y% Google's shoving of contacts down my throat. Apparently, anyone I've ever sent an email in Gmail to becomes a contact, whether I like it or not. On top of that, all those contacts got sync'd to my Vibrant when I first logged into the Market (which requires a Gmail account). Nowhere did it ask if I also wanted to sync my Google contacts, calendar, etc.... Well, the point is that I had almost Google 1000 contacts that I had to delete. I only want my Exchange contacts showing up. Freaking duplicate city. This was after I went into the synchronization settings and removed all synching of google mail, contacts, and calendars.
So, for the most part, everything has been fine. I even convinced my fiancee to give up her iPhone today (which is running like crap since an iOS 4 update) and get a Vibrant as well.
So I'm setting it all up and went in right away and set up Exchange email, only to find that I could not even open the built in "Calendar" App without adding a Gmail account? WTF? This phone is marketed as having Exchange Mail, Contacts and Calendar support.
Giving in, I add her Gmail account, which she NEVER USES, which of course automatically tries to take over her email to remove the Google synchronization. I get all that cleaned up and the only thing left is trying to make appointments work.
Setting up a new appointment, the phone always defaults to "My Calendar", which exists nowhere but the phone. I've been told that once I select my Exchange account, it should remember that. It doesn't. Occasionally, I'll forget to select my home mail and the appointment will stay on the phone. Another gripe... I don't think it can be fixed.
Finally, calendar invites allow you to select participants, but the invites never go out. I have to wait until the appointment syncs with my Exchange account, then go into Outlook on my PC, open the appointment, click on "Invitees", then click on "Send Update" (which returns an error that nothing has been changed). Once I've done that, the other invitees get the calendar invite. WHY?
Sorry for the long rant. I just don't see how this OS can ever be marketed as a corporate solution. I won't be going back to WinMo simply because the hardware in the Vibrant is fantastic. It does MOST of what I want... it just has some serious shortcomings. I'm hedging my bets on Froyo now. Does anyone have a good link that details the differences for Exchange on 2.2? I mean, really... Apple bit the bullet and paid the licensing to put true Microsoft Exchange Activesync on their iPhones. Can't Google do that too?
PC App that I love and works with outlook is Google Calander Sync give you the option of 2 way sync and one way sync. Works for me
Well for me the Samsung bloatware handles Exchange Accounts very well.
I'm syncing (by WiFi or 3G) 3 Exchange Accounts and just one of them with Contacts and Calendar.
Woolios said:
PC App that I love and works with outlook is Google Calander Sync give you the option of 2 way sync and one way sync. Works for me
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So you use that on your PC to sync Outlook to Google Calendar? Then Google Calendar syncs to the phone?
But then you'd have to have it running on one PC that is always on, correct? I don't leave my PCs running 24/7 (nor am I going to), so this will be an issue.
If there was a program I could install on my Exchange server... that'd be a different story, as it does run 24/7 (obviously).
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Well for me the Samsung bloatware handles Exchange Accounts very well.
I'm syncing (by WiFi or 3G) 3 Exchange Accounts and just one of them with Contacts and Calendar.
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i have agree with that
i'm using the samsung hub, and it's amazing how it can handle all my 5+ different other accounts just using 1 simple app
and the most amazing thing is, it actually works!
back in the windows days, i had to dance up and down, and jug left and right just to be able to find 3 or more Apps to accomplish the same thing
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i have agree with that
i'm using the samsung hub, and it's amazing how it can handle all my 5+ different other accounts just using 1 simple app
and the most amazing thing is, it actually works!
back in the windows days, i had to dance up and down, and jug left and right just to be able to find 3 or more Apps to accomplish the same thing
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I have to agree, too. Funny that WinMo only allowed one Exchange account. The rest you had to use IMAP or POP. Pretty lame.
I'm also seriously considering trying RoadSync or TouchDown. Not sure how well they'll integrate, though. I tried an early version of RoadSync on the MyTouch and it was a PITA.
**EDIT**
Trying TouchDown now...
Well, Touchdown is pretty nice... most of the time. Since last night, I've had to force close it about 5 times. It locks up the entire phone... I can't even turn the screen on/off. Eventually, the screen will come on and a "Force Close/Wait" option will be up.
Damn...
AllGamer said:
i have agree with that
i'm using the samsung hub, and it's amazing how it can handle all my 5+ different other accounts just using 1 simple app
and the most amazing thing is, it actually works!
back in the windows days, i had to dance up and down, and jug left and right just to be able to find 3 or more Apps to accomplish the same thing
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I find the native Android outlook support to work way better than Samsung hub. Same with the native facebook sync.
I wish I could just delete Samsung hub. I don't know why companies feel they have to re-invent the wheel when Android already does this stuff.
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I find the native Android outlook support to work way better than Samsung hub. Same with the native facebook sync.
I wish I could just delete Samsung hub. I don't know why companies feel they have to re-invent the wheel when Android already does this stuff.
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you can, using Titanium Backup, to uninstall Samsung Hub