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I never thought I'd say this, but I was under the impression that Samsung's new lineup would be using their own OS (Bada) rather than Android...I've now heard different and done some snooping.
I've hated Samsung phones, but OMG...
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Cellphonehardwarecompari1.png
Just take a look at that!!!
I've got another two weeks that I can return my Evo...should I keep it or wait for Galaxy S?
I mean just look at that - less power consumption, AMOLED screen, much faster GPU, faster RAM
I just got this Evo and I feel like something better is already coming out...
Dude I'm in the same boat as you I just got it and I heard about the galaxy s but after doing more research it seems like my evo is already outdated in some aspects by the galaxy s. I heard rumors its gonna be on t-mobile too and I canceled my contract with them to get the evo. But as I said its better only in a few ways. I wanna see reviews for it but by the time the galaxy s is out I won't be able to return the evo. I'm in a dilemma especially after the problems with the evo like battery life subpar 8 megapixel camera and 720p video and the 30 fps cap (that one gets me pissed) .- I wonder what other ppl at xda have to say- imma be watching this thread.
im returning my evo for the samsung galaxy s pro (with qwerty keyboard) for sprint.
I'm also very interested in the Galaxy. I love the Evo but the screen problem has got me thinking twice and I'm not too happy with how thick the Evo feels to me compared to my HD2. I understand that the Galaxy has a CPU with the same clock speed but tests have shown it to perform better along with the GPU as mentioned. The much slimmer profile sounds very good to me and the lack of a camera flash is a letdown but one I could live with.
Samsung is known for not supporting their phones after release but they have confirmed that the Galaxy will be updated with Froyo. On 2G the battery is rated for talk time longer than the iPhone 4G and is of course replaceable. Also 16GB built-in + add a 32GB micro sd card and you have more storage than nearly any smartphone.
Here is the best review (9 pages) I've found on the Galaxy:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478.php
true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
But it's a Samsung...
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Dan330 said:
true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
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im returning my evo for the samsung galaxy s pro (with qwerty keyboard) for sprint.
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That's better than htc who puts out phones with glaring problems and then stops supporting them. I haven't had an htc Pune since the tilt. I was hoping they had changed so I could get an evo, but apparently they haven't. I'm liking the galaxy s pro right now.
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true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
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LOL....
True, but HTC's record is just as pathetic.
We'll see when we will have a bug fix release and maybe in 10 months Froyo...
The Galaxy is nice, but if you like the developing and deep hacking and customizing.
HTC is the way to go.
yeah you guys are right - i know samsungs phones tend to sound good on paper and turn out not that great after all. happened a couple of times before. wanted to love their phones, but just couldnt.
besides the galaxy s looks pretty ugly compared to the evo
ok is it me or does this thing REALLY look like an iphone clone? Don't get me wrong the specs are good, but that Touchwiz overlay is a huge negative for me. In addition the only advantages I see the Galaxy S as having is the internal storage (which doesn't matter to me because I haven't even filled up my 16gb card half way yet, so an extra 8/16gb of storage doesn't excite me), the screen resolution (I'd rather have less resolution and a larger screen though), and the processor (same clock speed but faster gpu, seeing as I don't do an extensive amount of gaming on my phone I couldn't careless about that. Not to mention the gaming I do with games such as Gangstar and Nova, which are 3d environments, run perfectly fine). The disadvantages for me would be: lack of 4g (I get great 4g coverage here in Atlanta and also get good speeds on it 4-8megs), lack of camera flash, does not come with flash (you will have to wait until froyo, or install a custom rom to do any browsing that involves flash), and below average speakerphone. The phone looks like a decent phone but it does not have enough advantages for me to make a switch. Just my opinion.
I'll pass on the samsung. I'm really not digging their skinning either. With their post support issues I think I'd rather deal with apple and the iphone or motorola and their new high end droid. That said I'm not going to go and get raped by verizon, I don't want to get raped by at&t either and I'm happy with my evo.
HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC
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ok is it me or does this thing REALLY look like an iphone clone? Don't get me wrong the specs are good, but that Touchwiz overlay is a huge negative for me. In addition the only advantages I see the Galaxy S as having is the internal storage (which doesn't matter to me because I haven't even filled up my 16gb card half way yet, so an extra 8/16gb of storage doesn't excite me), the screen resolution (I'd rather have less resolution and a larger screen though), and the processor (same clock speed but faster gpu, seeing as I don't do an extensive amount of gaming on my phone I couldn't careless about that. Not to mention the gaming I do with games such as Gangstar and Nova, which are 3d environments, run perfectly fine). The disadvantages for me would be: lack of 4g (I get great 4g coverage here in Atlanta and also get good speeds on it 4-8megs), lack of camera flash, does not come with flash (you will have to wait until froyo, or install a custom rom to do any browsing that involves flash), and below average speakerphone. The phone looks like a decent phone but it does not have enough advantages for me to make a switch. Just my opinion.
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I agree about the looks! It looks way too much like an iPhone and the UI screenshots don't make it look any better. But have you seen the long demo video on YouTube? I forget which one it was, but I have to admit I was pretty impressed by the way it all flowed and this is coming from a guy who loves HTC Sense.
For someone like me, the extra 16GB would mean that I could ditch my iPod 160GB Classic and just have one device (I like to keep all my music and audiobooks on one device). Also reported by a few different blogs, the Galaxy screen is better and the hummingbird is reported too as being faster than the snapdragon in our Evos. And I guess I'm alone in this, but the super slim profile is a huge plus to me. But that back cover is pretty ugly. I'd really just like to demo this thing myself, with my Evo in hand and then decide. I'd also like to do the same with the iPhone 4G. These devices coming out on different dates, sure does making the choice making that much harder.........
man look how responsive it is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOHlx0BZ2Y&feature=related
frikin amazing
Any ideas what career its going to be on?
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HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC
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You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix
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man look how responsive it is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOHlx0BZ2Y&feature=related
frikin amazing
Any ideas what career its going to be on?
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I keep reading different carriers. Samsung has said they want the device to be on every carrier in every country and so if that holds true then it will be on all but my question is who will have it first late this month or next month as reported. I have seen some screenshots, showing T-Mobile account data on a Galaxy screen, but now I'm hearing Verizon and ATT as well.......
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You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix
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bahahaahh not entirely true about motorla and samsung but still funny ahah
timgt said:
You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix
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naw i like them because they build quality devices and have awesome customer support. i feel they do things right for the most part. i bet after u get done waiting for root on the samsung ull be trying to fix just as many things. also xda and all the other dev communities for HTC devices are well rounded and have a major following. HTC has been spiting out awesome devices for a long time. ive been hooked since my Axim X50v. that was back in 03
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HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC
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I'm with you all the way on it, i like how motorola designed the droid X but not their software, and I wouldn't get a motorola anyways.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones...Term=hspa&WT.z_searchProduct=myTouch%99+-+New
There aren't very fine details out yet, such as what type of screen it is, how large the battery is, what type of processor (it is 1 ghz, though) etc. but it seems to be, more or less, a Vibrant with a front-facing camera and HSPA+.
The kicker, though, is this is (probably) going to be an HTC device, which runs circle around Samsung when it comes to high-end Android phones.
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http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones...Term=hspa&WT.z_searchProduct=myTouch%99+-+New
There aren't very fine details out yet, such as what type of screen it is, how large the battery is, what type of processor (it is 1 ghz, though) etc. but it seems to be, more or less, a Vibrant with a front-facing camera and HSPA+.
The kicker, though, is this is (probably) going to be an HTC device, which runs circle around Samsung when it comes to high-end Android phones.
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How is it like a Vibrant with a FFC? It looks nothing like the Vibrant, It has buttons (Not fully touch) & It's ugly
Isnt the screen smaller than a Vibrant?
Looks decent enough and has the one thing I wish Vibrant did... hard buttons. That's the only thing I wish the vibrant had.
Well...i am getting front facing camera on my vibrant soon. Don't care about HSPA+. Who is gonna download torrents on mobile phones!?
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smaller screen, doesn't work on ATT 3G, no TV-out, only 8GB memory.
the only thing would be the HSPA+ b/c u can get FFC for vibrant:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770854
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Well...i am getting front facing camera on my vibrant soon. Don't care about HSPA+. Who is gonna download torrents on mobile phones!?
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HSPA+'s attraction is more less latency than higher speeds. Because, frankly speaking, once you pass the 5 Mbps mark, most website you visit won't load fast enough for you to even notice. The only exception is streaming videos in which case you are more likely to be capped by the server than your connection anyway.
What does less latency mean for end user? Real question, no pun.
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Not as sexy as the Vibrant.
The single detail that makes it better than the Vibrant? It's an HTC.
The MyTouchHD is an awesome phone. The screen isn't as big as the Vibrant but the build quality is a lot better. I've had the pleasure of using it and if any phone would make me switch its that one. Just wish it didn't come with Sense.
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The MyTouchHD is an awesome phone. The screen isn't as big as the Vibrant but the build quality is a lot better. I've had the pleasure of using it and if any phone would make me switch its that one. Just wish it didn't come with Sense.
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sense would probably be the reason to switch!
Sense PWNS....
i'd get the G2 over the mytouch HD.
not quite as 'vibrant' as the vibrant, bet it also doesnt vibrate as the vibrant
I believe the screen size is 3.8 in. Same width as the Vibrant, a couple of mm shorter. That's hardly anything to whine about. Ffc without having to completely hack my phone plus software support for video chat over 3G is definitely a plus. Native HSPA+ support. Shipped with froyo. My guess is that it will probably have a working GPS and compass. Swype preinstalled and Wifi calling too. This phone, although not as sexy looking as the Vibrant, looks very promising.
its official, and its just the MyTouch
mytouch.t-mobile.com
Hspa+ is real cool in its stats. But until it is widely available it's nearly worthless for most people. I figure by the time it's something that would actually affect me day to day itll be good timing to upgrade from my vibrant. My touch looks cool, ffc is a nice touch but it's also something I know I would rarely use.
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Cant wait for the mytouch to come out, how is it that the g2 doesn't have a ffc? && the mytouch is going to have a trackpad !! Which us always nicer to check spelling with
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Im contemplating selling my Vibrant. Even though this new MyTouch may lack some of the sexiness of the Samsung, HTC's customer service seems more on point. I rather my money go there. Wifi calling, Froyo, FFC, GPS that works (assuming) is more reason to drop the Samsung Vibrant.
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What does less latency mean for end user? Real question, no pun.
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Voip is much better when your latency is 60-80ms instead of 160-200ms.
Web pages begin loading much quicker (large pages still take a while to render, but small pages seem to come up instantly).
Google Maps tiles load quicker.
Little things that make the web feel faster are mostly latency-dependent. And typically, HSPA+ has lower latency than WiMax
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Im contemplating selling my Vibrant. Even though this new MyTouch may lack some of the sexiness of the Samsung, HTC's customer service seems more on point. I rather my money go there. Wifi calling, Froyo, FFC, GPS that works (assuming) is more reason to drop the Samsung Vibrant.
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Frustrated and fed up with Samsung's lack of support for the Vibrant, I contemplated switching to the G2, but wasn't impressed when I checked it out at a T-Mobile store over the weekend. Now that the MyTouch HD has been announced, my Vibrant will be going up for sale.
So wait, do you guys mean that the Vibrant can't benefit from Hspa+? You actually need a specific phone?
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Well I've been showing my phone off tio my friends and most of them say they think the new mytouch is better than the vibrant and some guy thinks his ipod touch 2g is better because his pocket pond app has better graphics
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its all about personal preference.
vibrant has best gpu,samoled screen.
mt4g has flash, hspa+, and a ffc.
id personally stick with my vibrant. once its lag fixed and oc'd its a beast.
and that ipod 2g is not better than the vibrant lol that guy who said that has to be a noob, the reason pocket ponds looks so good on it,because its optimized for the hardware.
Yup! What's ffc
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Front facing camera
blasian shadows said:
its all about personal preference.
vibrant has best gpu,samoled screen.
mt4g has flash, hspa+, and a ffc.
id personally stick with my vibrant. once its lag fixed and oc'd its a beast.
and that ipod 2g is not better than the vibrant lol that guy who said that has to be a noob, the reason pocket ponds looks so good on it,because its optimized for the hardware.
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1. Vibrant will have full flash once 2.2 hits.
2. Hspa+ is a backwards compatible service, so the vibrant will still benefit from it (up to the hardware limit which is like 7 mbps)
3. You can mod a ffc onto the vibrant if you really want it...but there really aren't too many practical uses for it right now anyway.
The vibrant is by far still a better device imo.
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1. Vibrant will have full flash once 2.2 hits.
2. Hspa+ is a backwards compatible service, so the vibrant will still benefit from it (up to the hardware limit which is like 7 mbps)
3. You can mod a ffc onto the vibrant if you really want it...but there really aren't too many practical uses for it right now anyway.
The vibrant is by far still a better device imo.
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I think he is talking LED flash
From the last Apple announcement:
Reporter: What about flash support?
Steve Jobs: Our phones love flash, that where we store things.
I do think Vibrant is a better choice, even though the Snapdragon 2nd Gen processor in HTC phones (G2 and MyTouch 4G) is a beast on its own, but if it weren't for somewhat childish looks of MTG4 and the fact that you cannot mod the damn thing (only temp root, and no RW access to NAND) makes it a bit of a downer.
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1. Vibrant will have full flash once 2.2 hits.
2. Hspa+ is a backwards compatible service, so the vibrant will still benefit from it (up to the hardware limit which is like 7 mbps)
3. You can mod a ffc onto the vibrant if you really want it...but there really aren't too many practical uses for it right now anyway.
The vibrant is by far still a better device imo.
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Will you have to get the official update to get flash? I'm running Eugene's froyo and my phone won't receive any updates at all for other reasons so if i can't get flash that would suck.
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1. Vibrant will have full flash once 2.2 hits.
2. Hspa+ is a backwards compatible service, so the vibrant will still benefit from it (up to the hardware limit which is like 7 mbps)
3. You can mod a ffc onto the vibrant if you really want it...but there really aren't too many practical uses for it right now anyway.
The vibrant is by far still a better device imo.
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my mistake i should have said led flash.
and yea once the banding issues are fixed i am buying a Ffc lol
From a majority consumer point of view, the MyTough3g is better.
FFC isn't a niche device, it's pretty mainstream considering you can now chat with people who use Yahoo Messenger from your Android phone if it has a FFC. Don't really care about Qik, but Yahoo is very much in use in the world. I suspect Windows Live Messenger will debut this feature quite soon with some Windows Phones coming out with FFCs.
The phone is snappier. Doesn't have the crappy RFS file system. The GUI looks good, and the Speech recognition works great. Doesn't feel like a paper plate in you hands, either (though I've added a cover to my vibrant to put some weight on it).
The Vibrant is a good device but the software (and I've heard FroYo doesn't really change much, outside of the fact that it's FroYo and yes I do need some of the features in FroYo so I welcome it) is terrible and some of the ommisions are just mind-boggling. No LED on front for notifications, for example. No Flash. GPS that still doesn't work correctly for half the people who have it. Slow as hell file system that makes the phone unusable from time to time. Less Application RAM than an HTC Aria. The GPU really doesn't matter because Android 2.1/2.2 still doesn't have a gfx accellerated GUI and Windows Mobile 6.5 has more games than Android (more games that you're bother installing, that is).
HTC also typically has an HTC Sync application for their phones, which makes managing them much easier than Galaxy S in the US (no Kies for us).
TBQH, I'm tired defending this phone. I wonder when others will get tired of it (prolly never on this forum, people still call the HD2 the greatest phone on earth here). This device is being completely overshadowered by other offerings and the only reason why it sold so well on AT&T/T-Mobile/Sprint is because:
1. T-Mobile didn't have anything else worth buying in the range of high end smartphones (HD2 not an option for most people with it's OS and problematic reputation)
2. AT&T Doesn't have much other high end smartphonts other than Palm Pres and the Torch that just came out with the Captivate (the Pre and Torch feel more mid-range compared to iOS/Android devices, and there was the Aria as well in that space).
3. Sprint had so many issues with Evo backorders/issues that customers had no issue but to get something else. They have no other good phones. Their Pres are 1st gen and no one wants a Touch Pro 2 or Hero, Lol...
How that there are other good phones coming out... I wouldn't expect much.
Not everyone is a power user. My mom doesn't cry about not being able to jailbreak her Blackberry and when she had a WinMo phone she didn't even install an app on it. She just used it as a phone/txt device (basically as a feature phone). The temp-root issue is only an issue for a very small minority of users - so it isn't even an issue at all in the grand scheme of things.
I looked at the new mytouch.
No thanks.
And I'm at a loss as to the above posters issues. This is my third android phone, and it us by far the fastest happiest android device I've used. My last phone, the Nexus one, although sexy, would need a reboot at least once a day to keep it snappy.
And I live the size if included internal memory is the Vibrant. No need for special hacks to get files on SD.
The Vibrant, for me, is a fantastic phone.
And yes, can't wait for the banding issue to be resolved for the FFC.
Oh, and it doesn't need a flash. It takes better pictures in low light conditions without one, than other phones that have a flash
Well, the one thing that is unmatched on the Galaxy S line is the amazing screen. Sorry, but I can't go back to LCD or plain AMOLED after this. After all, you use the screen more than any other feature on a smartphone.
As for the other things, it all depends on what's important to you. GPS works great for me now. FFC would be nice, but not necessary for me. As for flash? Meh, LED flash is barely adequate as a solution.
Personally, I picked the Vibrant because aside from the core smartphone functions, I wanted a phone that could also replace my old iPod. So for me, having 16gb of built-in memory was more important than even having a camera, much less a flash.
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My First Impression Of The MyTouch 4G:
The screen on the MyTouch 4G is much higher in resolution. You can barely see pixels. The MyTouch 4G produces real whites, the SuperAmoled produces green/blue whites. However the SAMOLED has a much better contrast ratio, meaning colors pop since blacks are much darker.
The 3.8 inch screen is too small for me
The Build Quality of the 4G seems to be good.
The GPU seemed slower than the Vibrants PowerVR.
The CPU is faster on the 4G.
Now here is the odd part. I must admit I've noticed the same thing with the G2.
Both the G2 and the Mytouch 4G are HSPA+, while the Vibrant is not. However, side by side, running speedtest app. The vibrant EVERY SINGLE TIME had both higher download and upload speeds. It just doesn't make sense. Side by side, the Vibrant got almost 6mbps download. MyTouch 4G best it could do was 3mbps. Same with the G2, I don't get it.
Henchman said:
I looked at the new mytouch.
No thanks.
And I'm at a loss as to the above posters issues. This is my third android phone, and it us by far the fastest happiest android device I've used. My last phone, the Nexus one, although sexy, would need a reboot at least once a day to keep it snappy.
And I live the size if included internal memory is the Vibrant. No need for special hacks to get files on SD.
The Vibrant, for me, is a fantastic phone.
And yes, can't wait for the banding issue to be resolved for the FFC.
Oh, and it doesn't need a flash. It takes better pictures in low light conditions without one, than other phones that have a flash
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Every phone has its fanbois. I just left T-Mo and played with an HD7.
Vinrant fells like an 8088 PC-XT compared to that. Only way to think this phone is snappy is to have only used worse phones.
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LOL yup so I'll wait another 2 years for a newer android phone with android 4.0 if its going there
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Me and my roomate both had our Vibrants in the store. We were astonished by the difference, just in scrolling form home screen to home screen. The Vibrants were obviously laggy doing something trivial. The Windows phone just blew through everything. The UI is beyond polished. The minimalist look definitely works well.
Microsoft definitely took the best route short of developing their own phones: Lock down the hardware and focus on doing what you do best - software ~ namely the OS and all the device drivers. Google should take note, or Android will suffer (although I'm sure it will be prevalent in the low-mid range device market, since Nokia isn't that big a player - at least in the US).
We played with the MyTouch 4G. The phone itself is ugly and I'm not a fan of screens < 4". It has some Sense elements in it which = update churn like 90% of other Android phones. The G2 performed decently but it has a whole host of problems. If you haven't experienced that ****ty hinge I implore you to go to a T-Mobile store and play with it. The minute the phone is perpendicular to the floor the phone starts closing (more like slamming) on you. That makes the phone unusable for me if I'm lying in bed and using it (as I often do before I go to bed). I guess something like an Epic 4G or Droid 2 wouldn't have that issue, though. That hinge was a terrible idea, Lol.
Oh, and did I mention the touchscreen keyboard on WP7 is /drools/ worthy.
I can't see myself getting any other Android Phone again.
If you get a phone with a UI on it that looks decent it is bound to come with hoards of issues and update churn. If you get a stock phone the built quality is pure crap and/or half the space is taken up to lock the phone down instead.
In any case, I heard FroYo for Galaxy S in the U.S. is supposed to be coming Nov. 11 on Facebook from "Samsung Galaxy S."
I heard Galaxy S performance is still below acceptable with FroYo, though... Some people are reporting regressions.
i just picked up the new mt4g. i have two phone lines (one for my work) and will probably keep both phones. i will need to use the mt4g for a couple of weeks go form a complete review/opinion on the phone v. the vibrant.
the mt4g is very solid and very snappy considering all the bloatware. with its HTC Espresso UI, the interface isn't for every body. Just like HTC sense it does a huge amount of social integration, moreso than the vibrant. And just like HTC sense you have pre-set "themes" you can load in terms of personal and business preferences.
it's screen is super crisp but no where near as "vibrant" as our vibrant phones. in terms of gaming, i haven't compared the two yet as i'm sure the mt4g can handle them well to a certain extent vs. the vibrant being that it's a second gen snapdragon. but i'm sure in terms of rendering and graphic display, it won't match the vibrant. i'll probably compare the gaming and video playback between the two later this week.
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In any case, I heard FroYo for Galaxy S in the U.S. is supposed to be coming Nov. 11 on Facebook from "Samsung Galaxy S."
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There's been no announcement or even real rumor of the sort, unfortunately.
The only thing that's confirmed is "by the end of the year".
If the mytouch had at least a 4" screen I would get it. That being said, I'm looking forward to the android version of the Dell Venue Pro
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My First Impression Of The MyTouch 4G:
The screen on the MyTouch 4G is much higher in resolution. You can barely see pixels. The MyTouch 4G produces real whites, the SuperAmoled produces green/blue whites. However the SAMOLED has a much better contrast ratio, meaning colors pop since blacks are much darker.
The 3.8 inch screen is too small for me
The Build Quality of the 4G seems to be good.
The GPU seemed slower than the Vibrants PowerVR.
The CPU is faster on the 4G.
Now here is the odd part. I must admit I've noticed the same thing with the G2.
Both the G2 and the Mytouch 4G are HSPA+, while the Vibrant is not. However, side by side, running speedtest app. The vibrant EVERY SINGLE TIME had both higher download and upload speeds. It just doesn't make sense. Side by side, the Vibrant got almost 6mbps download. MyTouch 4G best it could do was 3mbps. Same with the G2, I don't get it.
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vibrant and mt4g have the same resolution. 800x480
lexluthor said:
There's been no announcement or even real rumor of the sort, unfortunately.
The only thing that's confirmed is "by the end of the year".
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You're wrong.
The source of my info is in the the sentence you quoted.
I currently have an iPhone 4 but want to go back to android which should I get? I am on AT&T but looking to buy out of contract from selling my iPhone so I wan the atrix but I love the screens of the samsungs. I would get the nexus s but I am going to switch to tmobile in like 2 or 3 months. So I will just wait till I move or get the galaxy s 2 in that time
And I believe the vibrant can work on AT&T 3G so any idea which phone I should get for these 3 months
I can get the captivate for 150 but I want to know if it is worth dishing out 400-500 for the atrix and yes I did got to AT&T today and mess with both phone but still ify so anything can push me over the edge
lorijuan1024 said:
I currently have an iPhone 4 but want to go back to android which should I get? I am on AT&T but looking to buy out of contract from selling my iPhone so I wan the atrix but I love the screens of the samsungs. I would get the nexus s but I am going to switch to tmobile in like 2 or 3 months. So I will just wait till I move or get the galaxy s 2 in that time
And I believe the vibrant can work on AT&T 3G so any idea which phone I should get for these 3 months
I can get the captivate for 150 but I want to know if it is worth dishing out 400-500 for the atrix and yes I did got to AT&T today and mess with both phone but still ify so anything can push me over the edge
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My custom mod captivate blows this atrix out of the water. It literally does nothing my captivate cant already do. Not to mention my captivate can produce the color YELLOW... Oh and my captivate can actually use the HSUPA network... unlike this phone which was a bait and switch 4G phone that produces half the network speed of my iPhone and captivate. Capped upload speeds of 180kiloBITS per second is dial up age speed. Yes thats kiloBITS not bytes...
This phone is a gimmick piece of junk to be honest. I wanted to love it... but there is nothing about it that I want to keep.
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My custom mod captivate blows this atrix out of the water. It literally does nothing my captivate cant already do. Not to mention my captivate can produce the color YELLOW... Oh and my captivate can actually use the HSUPA network... unlike this phone which was a bait and switch 4G phone that produces half the network speed of my iPhone and captivate. Capped upload speeds of 180kiloBITS per second is dial up age speed. Yes thats kiloBITS not bytes...
This phone is a gimmick piece of junk to be honest. I wanted to love it... but there is nothing about it that I want to keep.
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You have to remember the phones been out for 2 days plus is the first tegra 2 dual core device so bugs are supposed to be expected.
Well my opinion is going to be pretty much the opposite of the first reply, but I think it depends on what you're trying to do ultimately.
For someone who does a lot of heavy, and I mean heavy usage with the phone over a variety of applications, the Atrix is amazing; I love everything about it.
Amazingly fast and it doesn't slow down it close applications when I'm using a lot of things at one time.
The pixel density is great as well; everything is more condensed and compact.
The build is great, and overall I'm pleased with the phone coming from a rooted and ROMed Captivate.
Rooted/ROM Captivate
Rooted Atrix
Out for 2 days but has a locked boot loader. Not to mention you only get 30 days from purchase to decide if you want it. It hasnt done anything out of the box but disappoint. And trust me, I really wanted to love this phone. It did a great job of turning me off.
The decision is ultimately up to you. However, I love my Atrix compared to the Captivate (Brother-in-law has it) I use my Atrix heavily over the day, using the mobile hotspot (with the custom APN), browsing, playing music, etc. My battery is still good by the time I get home from college or work.
Moto seems like it will be addressing our bootloader problem (for good or bad I have no clue, but any response is better than none). So hopefully those troubles will be over soon.
Also, psufan, I don't know where you live but I'm getting 320 kilobytes a second. Constantly.
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The decision is ultimately up to you. However, I love my Atrix compared to the Captivate (Brother-in-law has it) I use my Atrix heavily over the day, using the mobile hotspot (with the custom APN), browsing, playing music, etc. My battery is still good by the time I get home from college or work.
Moto seems like it will be addressing our bootloader problem (for good or bad I have no clue, but any response is better than none). So hopefully those troubles will be over soon.
Also, psufan, I don't know where you live but I'm getting 320 kilobytes a second. Constantly.
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Unless you are on an actual 4G enabled market (there are 6 of them) its impossible for you to be getting this since HSUPA is turned OFF in the modem firmware. You are getting 320 kiloBITS not bytes. iPhone 4 gets 1.5MB for comparison. If you were getting kilobytes you would have one of the fastest uploads on the market - which you dont.
I would just wait for the Galaxy S II but if you're going to be switching to T-Mobile soon then you may want to consider the Nexus S as well.
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Got the atrix on launch day. I will be returning it tomorrow and going back to my vibrant until the galaxy s2 is out. I like this phone don't get me wrong but there are just more things that I dislike about it than I like about it. This phone is definitely not worth keeping and extending my contract for another 2 years thats for sure.
I agree I like my customized Captivate much better. I understand the dual core is buggy and there will be fixes with no doubt about that but the deal breaker is Motorolla's OS interface and screen. I like captivate screen and OS interface much better. Once you go AMOLED it's hard to go back to a regular screen.
I'll maybe returning my Atrix and wait for the Galaxy S II. I did take in consideration the Atrix has a faster processor and will get faster with newer OS but Galaxy S II will have a bigger and better AMOLED screen. By the time they make an Android OS to take full advantage of dual processor there will be newer and better dual processor phones, hopefully with the AMOLED screen.
If I had to choose between the 3 phones you talked about, I'd go with the used Captivate if I was with ATT. If I was with Tmoble I'd go with the Vibrant. I'd save the upgrade option for up coming Android phones. This would my choice but not everyone is the same.
Id go with the atrix.
90% of the problems i keep reading on every forum come from Iphone users who dont know how to use android,
or people who do not want to take the time to find answers to their questions.
people who complain about moto blur are usually complaining about it because someone told them it isnt good. Moto blur is pretty much stock android with a different dock bar and some icons skinned differenly. Other than that is pretty much normal android. Any replacement launcher will do the trick is need be
the only real thing is the HSUPA ordeal, but thats on any AT&T phone, and as of right now but most people dont really need it anyways
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My custom mod captivate blows this atrix out of the water. It literally does nothing my captivate cant already do. Not to mention my captivate can produce the color YELLOW... Oh and my captivate can actually use the HSUPA network... unlike this phone which was a bait and switch 4G phone that produces half the network speed of my iPhone and captivate. Capped upload speeds of 180kiloBITS per second is dial up age speed. Yes thats kiloBITS not bytes...
This phone is a gimmick piece of junk to be honest. I wanted to love it... but there is nothing about it that I want to keep.
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Your custom Captivate still lacks processing power, 1080p video, HDMI port, GPS that works, readable text, true WHITES (non oversatured colors), front' facing camera, HSPA+, 1/2 the ram and only DDR (instead of DDR2), official release beyond 2.1, decent docks, crap battery, etc. The UPLOAD cap is not because of the phone and it is temp thing anyways. Wait until applications start requiring dual-core processing/ram requirements and we will see how well your Captivate holds up.
So back on topic.... Ya I say get an Atrix.
Wait for SGS2 -- the screen will be *much* better and the locked Atrix kills half the point of Android (true customization).
galaxy s is so 2010. get the atrix or wait for the galaxy s2.
I think the Atrix is a really nice phone, but I too think I am going to return mine and go back to the iPhone 4 until the S2 comes out.
If I were going to exchange it for a phone now I would get the Inspire 4g. 2 of my friends have exchanged theirs for the Inspire 4g with custom roms and are very happy. They have all the animations in the world and are smooth as can be. They have full upload (unlocked hsupa). 4.3" screen with some better colors (personally I compared them at AT&T and did not like the over saturated colors. It reminded me of turning on Digital Vibrance on a video card). Slightly lower battery life, but it also doesn't take forever to charge, and of course a slew of custom roms.
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My custom mod captivate blows this atrix out of the water. It literally does nothing my captivate cant already do. Not to mention my captivate can produce the color YELLOW... Oh and my captivate can actually use the HSUPA network... unlike this phone which was a bait and switch 4G phone that produces half the network speed of my iPhone and captivate. Capped upload speeds of 180kiloBITS per second is dial up age speed. Yes thats kiloBITS not bytes...
This phone is a gimmick piece of junk to be honest. I wanted to love it... but there is nothing about it that I want to keep.
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something the Atrix (and every other phone out there) can do that the Captivate (or any SGS phone) cannot: reliable GPS turn-by-turn navigation
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something the Atrix (and every other phone out there) can do that the Captivate (or any SGS phone) cannot: reliable GPS turn-by-turn navigation
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The SGS II isn't even out yet, I'm sure the GPS issue will be addressed on it.
i most likely will get a captivate till GS 2 comes out i am still considering
I have both phones and the captivate does not win in anything. I have no issues with my atrix screen. It looks just as good and has better colors then my captivate. It really depends on what you want to do. If you like flashing roms then get the captivate. If you want the fastest phone out with webtop features then get the atrix. The atrix will have custom roms in time but is it really needed? I use launcher pro on my atrix and it runs faster then any phone with custom rom. The cativate sucks stock. You need custom rom with lag fix to make it run good. The atrix does not need a custom rom to run good.
The other day it finally happened after having my HD2 for over a year. I dropped it and cracked the screen badly. Now, if that was the only issue I would just live with it as I love the phone. But the impact area just so happens to be over the sensors and antanea. If I can get signal, it drops half way through a call. On top of that, the touch screen is starting to be non reactive in some areas. So my question to everyone one is which phone should I buy to replace my beloved HD2?
I am on USA TMobile and as far as I can see, I ony have two real options, the LG G2X or the HTC Sensation. Any ideas?
How about Samsung Galaxy S2? rated best phone at the moment isnt it?
I would love to but I'm in the US and it is not out yet. Since I use my phone for work, I have to make a purchase soon and I can't wait for the S2
The HTC Sensation XE Beats Black is verry nice new phone
It's out in Europe now for two weeks but difficult to get.
Awesome specs Dual core 1.5 Ghz processor 768 MB ram
16 GB SD Sense 3.5
Sorry, I thought it would of been out in the usa. Thats the first lol, you guys usually get things before we do.
Im thinking of upgrading to the galaxy S2, i was thinking about getting the Sensation but specs look bit better on the S2. Its just a shame Sense isnt on the S2 though.
I would take the HTC Sensation XE
Best Phone in the World!!
most definately the sensation XE
I am voting for sensation XE as well!!
Don't leave the KING (HTC) to get a settle(LG)
the hardware on HTC looks and feels on hand much more stable and "proudy" made...
the lg looks a bit china made thing
(my opinion ofc )
Thanks for all the input, I am leaning towards the Sensation but the Samsung Galaxy S 2 for Tmobile comes out in about a week. There are a few downsides to the TMobile version of the S 2 though. One being that it is going to have a Snapdragon CPU and custom Modem where as all other models will be pretty much the same. This is an issue to me becasue that means that all ROMs will be cooked for all other versions and there will be less devs for the TMobile version. The other big one goes with the Snapdragon being the CPU TMobile went with. I personaly like Snapdragon CPUs but the S 2 was built for the Exynos CPU wich all other models will have. From looking around, being that the TMobile version has the Snapdragon instead of the Exynos, the graphics, speed and battery will take a hit to "imporve" data speeds.
Any Devs out there plan on getting a Tmobile Galaxy S 2? If so please let me know so I know that there will be support. I would be willing to help test. I know a little about cooking ROMs as long as I have something to start with lol.
What about the Amaze? It comes out the same time as the SGS2
Sensation...
I don't have anything against htc sense or anything!
but I wouldn't prefer it because the htc sensation has 700+ ram yes, but because of the sense it only has 180 mb ram left..
That's why I would prefer a samsung galaxy s 2
The HTC Amaze seems to be the better phone being that I am on TMobile and it will be able to handle 4G speeds with out giving away preformance. I guess the true test is when they come out at the stores on 12 Oct I will just have to go put my hands on both the S2 and the Amaze.
I would buy another HD2 to keep me going in the mean time and wait for the HTC Runnymede/Bass to come out.
The LG G2x will get no love in this HTC thread so I suggest you to go to a store and play with both. While you're there, play with the Samsung Vibrant too so you can have an idea of AMOLED display.
For me, I would pick neither because I'm choosing/waiting between Nexus Prime or Galaxy Note.
HTC Sensation if you cant wait.
Well I went to pay my bill at a local T-Mobile store last night and was able to mess with an HTC Amaze. All I can say is WOW! Even with Sence on the phone, it still blew any other phone I have messed with out of the water. The display/colors were amazing. The touch screen was perfect as well as transtitions between screens and menus. They claim that the HTC Amaze has the best camera on the market and from what I could tell as far as speed, it was fast, no major lag/pause between taking pictures. As far as quality of the pictures, I will have to wait. They looked nice on the screen lol. This is diff the phone I am going with. Just hate that I have to wait till next week to get one.
What about t he evo 3d, I demoed it, and it's really cool
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I'm choosing/waiting between Nexus Prime or Galaxy Note.
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quite fancy a galaxy note myself. Nice and big for my ageing eyes, and it'd make a great vnc remote for all my home network devices.
Samsung Note | Samsung Note | Samsung Note | Samsung Note | Samsung Note | Samsung Note | Samsung Note | Samsung Note |
That is all! I love HTC, but the ultra-mega-screen-size has me sold and I need it in my life so bad!!
To be honest, HTC has not delivered any phone to win me over since the HD2: All of their models are basically clones with slightly better specs and in uglier hardware. And even when the specs are better (e.g. Dual-Core), they either don't look sexy (Sensation), are too light and child-like (Sensation), or are hampered by a key spec (e.g. low internal memory, low internal RAM) (and I don't give a flying one about "Beats by Dre" lol).
I was this close to going for the Galaxy SII until deciding I could wait one more 'revolution', as my HD2 was still nailing my experience for me. I'm glad I waited as the Note has me jumping in excitement!