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Loving Hero - Leaving for Galaxy S

I've known and loved my HTC hero for a while now and my contract with Orange UK is set to expire end of September. I've been somewhat irritated by the delay with the 2.1 ROM for Hero, have tried (and not really got on with) most 2.1 ROMS and now am happily running the Modaco 3.2 with root and my new favourite: Swype!
Anyway... The thing I'm a bit tired of with the Hero is the speed. Generally it's fine and I'm used to it, but I definitely can'y wait for more SPEED! So surveying the scene I've decided to get the amazing looking Samsung Galaxy S when it's released. I was thinking of getting the next iPhone but I just can't go back to such a closed system without ROOT!
So... I've LOVED tinkering with my Hero, installing custom ROMS and stuff like that - I'm wondering how likely it is that the Samsung Galaxy S will even be "rootable" or have custom ROMs developed for it? I've seen the HTC Evo but not sure if that's going to be released in the UK and the Galaxy S has a better screen and just looks like it's a better phone in general. Is it mainly HTC phones that get "root"/dev love on these forums or is it likely I'll have much luck with the Samsung?

I've just googled some pics of the Galaxy S.
Both case and the OS skin look like a blatant iPhone rip off I hope it's got a sound recorder so it can save you the trouble of saying "No, it's not an iPhone it's a Samsung running Android" ..... "What's that?"
Even though HTC aren't the best at releasing updates, at least they're original! What's wrong with a Desire?
And yes, Swype is amazing.

kadison said:
I've just googled some pics of the Galaxy S.
Both case and the OS skin look like a blatant iPhone rip off I hope it's got a sound recorder so it can save you the trouble of saying "No, it's not an iPhone it's a Samsung running Android" ..... "What's that?"
Even though HTC aren't the best at releasing updates, at least they're original! What's wrong with a Desire?
And yes, Swype is amazing.
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The pics dont really do it justice. It does look a lot like an iPhone at first but then as can be seen on the videos of it in action - it's most definitely android! The Desire doesn't have that spanking gorgeous AMOLED screen! [dribbles].... The specs are "out of this world"! [haha!]

alsheron said:
The Desire doesn't have that spanking gorgeous AMOLED screen!
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Yes it does. http://www.htc.com/www/product/desire/specification.html

kadison said:
Yes it does. http://www.htc.com/www/product/desire/specification.html
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Is it Super AMOLED? The new version designed to be better in direct sunlight/outdoors? Don't think so...

alsheron said:
Is it Super AMOLED? The new version designed to be better in direct sunlight/outdoors? Don't think so...
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Galaxy is better in almost every way, it has a dedicated GPU that's about 4 times as fast as the snapdragon. But it doesn't have such a widespread userbase. And samsung doesn't offer updates afaik so I'd rather get the desire.
Oh yeah it looks like c...

I'm all in for the Samsung Galaxy S too, when it arrives. It's sexy as hell and I know I'll love that dedicated GPU, that's even way better than the iPhone 3Gs'. My hero has served me well, and still does. My hero is also super fast, now that I've overclocked it to 700 mhz.
Edit: Just remembered also, that the desire and nexus screen cannot even remotely be compared to the screen of the samsung galaxy s. The screen is nice on desire and nexus, but there has been some talk about an actually lower effective resolution. Look at how the text isn't that crisp, you will notice.

my friend just got the HTC Legend on contract with vodafone before that he was on orange with a nokia n95 and he lives out in the sticks and now
gets much better signal and the phone feels a lot faster and is built much better than the hero and runs 2.1 you should look in to it
Sent from my aHero using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

madsborelli said:
but there has been some talk about an actually lower effective resolution. Look at how the text isn't that crisp, you will notice.
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That would be the Pentile type display in the Nexus One and Desire. Unlike most LCD displays, a pentile type display does not have all three RGB subpixels, and uses subpixel rendering to make it 'look' like it has a higher resolution. It's actually Samsung's display btw.
I'm not sure if this is the same for the Super AMOLED, since the S-AMOLED is supposed to have integrated the touchscreen with the display (increasing clarity) and has nothing to do with how the pixels are rendered..
Anyway, I would also advise against getting a Samsung. If you think HTC's firmware/software support is bad.... Samsung pretty much abandons its products after it has been released.

Thanks
Thanks for the feedback guys - some great info here. Bit worrying the comment about Samsung abandoning their products!? Won't that be less so because the Galaxy s is running android? I have to say that the Galaxy S is looking SO good so far that I might get it and just deal with the lack of updates - probably regret it but what choice is there?
I know, I know that there will always be "better" and "faster" when it comes to tech like this but don't you think that 1GHz is about *finally* the sweetspot for running stuff nice and fluid on a smartphone? I mean my comp here at home is a Core 2 Duo and I can't tell *any* difference between this and the similarly specced Core i3 at work for everyday tasks. In the same way, even if a 1.5Ghz phone comes out after the Galaxy S (which isn't due to arrive later in the year anyway) - even though we'd all want a faster phone, staying with 1ghz aint going to be too shabby, is it? The Hero I think is *just* slightly on the wrong side of slow when it comes to speed. Maybe the Legend fixes that - I haven't tried one - and wouldn't want to now some incredible phones are on the way.
Anyway - if I don't get the Galaxy S, what do you guys think is the best alternative given my contract expires at the end of this Spetember? Any announcements been made about the Evo4g or some other super quick phone?
Also - no one's really mentioned but if i DO get the Galaxy S, how likely is it that I'll be able to root it and install custom Roms or updated custom roms in the fullness of time? Does the community in general only tweak with HTC phones?
Thanks again!

Samsung does update some of their Android phones. It's just that they are slow and they have not update them all.
History of updates of Samsung Android phones (may not be exhaustive):
Moment (M900) : 1.5 -> 2.1
Galaxy Spica/Portal (i5700) : 1.5 -> 2.1
Behold 2 (T-939): 1.5 -> update to 2.1 approved and should be coming soon
Samsung Galaxy (i7500) : NO update to 2.x (phone released 6-7/2009)
It remains to be seen how many of the above will get an update to 2.2, if any.

HTC Evo 4G vs Samsung Galaxy S (Galaxy has better CPU?)

I never thought I'd say this, but I was under the impression that Samsung's new lineup would be using their own OS (Bada) rather than Android...I've now heard different and done some snooping.
I've hated Samsung phones, but OMG...
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Cellphonehardwarecompari1.png
Just take a look at that!!!
I've got another two weeks that I can return my Evo...should I keep it or wait for Galaxy S?
I mean just look at that - less power consumption, AMOLED screen, much faster GPU, faster RAM
I just got this Evo and I feel like something better is already coming out...

Dude I'm in the same boat as you I just got it and I heard about the galaxy s but after doing more research it seems like my evo is already outdated in some aspects by the galaxy s. I heard rumors its gonna be on t-mobile too and I canceled my contract with them to get the evo. But as I said its better only in a few ways. I wanna see reviews for it but by the time the galaxy s is out I won't be able to return the evo. I'm in a dilemma especially after the problems with the evo like battery life subpar 8 megapixel camera and 720p video and the 30 fps cap (that one gets me pissed) .- I wonder what other ppl at xda have to say- imma be watching this thread.

im returning my evo for the samsung galaxy s pro (with qwerty keyboard) for sprint.

I'm also very interested in the Galaxy. I love the Evo but the screen problem has got me thinking twice and I'm not too happy with how thick the Evo feels to me compared to my HD2. I understand that the Galaxy has a CPU with the same clock speed but tests have shown it to perform better along with the GPU as mentioned. The much slimmer profile sounds very good to me and the lack of a camera flash is a letdown but one I could live with.
Samsung is known for not supporting their phones after release but they have confirmed that the Galaxy will be updated with Froyo. On 2G the battery is rated for talk time longer than the iPhone 4G and is of course replaceable. Also 16GB built-in + add a 32GB micro sd card and you have more storage than nearly any smartphone.
Here is the best review (9 pages) I've found on the Galaxy:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478.php

true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).

But it's a Samsung...
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Dan330 said:
true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
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G1toEVO4G said:
im returning my evo for the samsung galaxy s pro (with qwerty keyboard) for sprint.
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That's better than htc who puts out phones with glaring problems and then stops supporting them. I haven't had an htc Pune since the tilt. I was hoping they had changed so I could get an evo, but apparently they haven't. I'm liking the galaxy s pro right now.

Dan330 said:
true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
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LOL....
True, but HTC's record is just as pathetic.
We'll see when we will have a bug fix release and maybe in 10 months Froyo...

The Galaxy is nice, but if you like the developing and deep hacking and customizing.
HTC is the way to go.

yeah you guys are right - i know samsungs phones tend to sound good on paper and turn out not that great after all. happened a couple of times before. wanted to love their phones, but just couldnt.
besides the galaxy s looks pretty ugly compared to the evo

ok is it me or does this thing REALLY look like an iphone clone? Don't get me wrong the specs are good, but that Touchwiz overlay is a huge negative for me. In addition the only advantages I see the Galaxy S as having is the internal storage (which doesn't matter to me because I haven't even filled up my 16gb card half way yet, so an extra 8/16gb of storage doesn't excite me), the screen resolution (I'd rather have less resolution and a larger screen though), and the processor (same clock speed but faster gpu, seeing as I don't do an extensive amount of gaming on my phone I couldn't careless about that. Not to mention the gaming I do with games such as Gangstar and Nova, which are 3d environments, run perfectly fine). The disadvantages for me would be: lack of 4g (I get great 4g coverage here in Atlanta and also get good speeds on it 4-8megs), lack of camera flash, does not come with flash (you will have to wait until froyo, or install a custom rom to do any browsing that involves flash), and below average speakerphone. The phone looks like a decent phone but it does not have enough advantages for me to make a switch. Just my opinion.

I'll pass on the samsung. I'm really not digging their skinning either. With their post support issues I think I'd rather deal with apple and the iphone or motorola and their new high end droid. That said I'm not going to go and get raped by verizon, I don't want to get raped by at&t either and I'm happy with my evo.

HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC

mysterioustko said:
ok is it me or does this thing REALLY look like an iphone clone? Don't get me wrong the specs are good, but that Touchwiz overlay is a huge negative for me. In addition the only advantages I see the Galaxy S as having is the internal storage (which doesn't matter to me because I haven't even filled up my 16gb card half way yet, so an extra 8/16gb of storage doesn't excite me), the screen resolution (I'd rather have less resolution and a larger screen though), and the processor (same clock speed but faster gpu, seeing as I don't do an extensive amount of gaming on my phone I couldn't careless about that. Not to mention the gaming I do with games such as Gangstar and Nova, which are 3d environments, run perfectly fine). The disadvantages for me would be: lack of 4g (I get great 4g coverage here in Atlanta and also get good speeds on it 4-8megs), lack of camera flash, does not come with flash (you will have to wait until froyo, or install a custom rom to do any browsing that involves flash), and below average speakerphone. The phone looks like a decent phone but it does not have enough advantages for me to make a switch. Just my opinion.
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I agree about the looks! It looks way too much like an iPhone and the UI screenshots don't make it look any better. But have you seen the long demo video on YouTube? I forget which one it was, but I have to admit I was pretty impressed by the way it all flowed and this is coming from a guy who loves HTC Sense.
For someone like me, the extra 16GB would mean that I could ditch my iPod 160GB Classic and just have one device (I like to keep all my music and audiobooks on one device). Also reported by a few different blogs, the Galaxy screen is better and the hummingbird is reported too as being faster than the snapdragon in our Evos. And I guess I'm alone in this, but the super slim profile is a huge plus to me. But that back cover is pretty ugly. I'd really just like to demo this thing myself, with my Evo in hand and then decide. I'd also like to do the same with the iPhone 4G. These devices coming out on different dates, sure does making the choice making that much harder.........

man look how responsive it is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOHlx0BZ2Y&feature=related
frikin amazing
Any ideas what career its going to be on?

toastcfh said:
HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC
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You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix

denny_1986 said:
man look how responsive it is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOHlx0BZ2Y&feature=related
frikin amazing
Any ideas what career its going to be on?
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I keep reading different carriers. Samsung has said they want the device to be on every carrier in every country and so if that holds true then it will be on all but my question is who will have it first late this month or next month as reported. I have seen some screenshots, showing T-Mobile account data on a Galaxy screen, but now I'm hearing Verizon and ATT as well.......

timgt said:
You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix
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bahahaahh not entirely true about motorla and samsung but still funny ahah

timgt said:
You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix
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naw i like them because they build quality devices and have awesome customer support. i feel they do things right for the most part. i bet after u get done waiting for root on the samsung ull be trying to fix just as many things. also xda and all the other dev communities for HTC devices are well rounded and have a major following. HTC has been spiting out awesome devices for a long time. ive been hooked since my Axim X50v. that was back in 03

toastcfh said:
HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC
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I'm with you all the way on it, i like how motorola designed the droid X but not their software, and I wouldn't get a motorola anyways.

Desire HD or Nexus 2(or whatever its called)?

hello guys,
i'm currently not sure about what i'm thinking, my Desire HD order will probably arrive at 15th November, and the new phone is going to be announced at the 8th... so should i cancel my order and wait for the new Samsung phone? or keep waiting??
i dont even want to wait for the releasing period for the new Samsung, which i think i may get it by December???!!!!
oh God

im in the exact situation! but this is what i plan on doing.
Keep my order, get the desire and play around with it. I'll see what Samsung announce, if it's much better and a worthy upgrade from the DHD then i'll put it up on eBay. Im sure i won't make much of a loss selling it there. Some people pay crazy money
But ultimatly what's most important to me is root, and if the devs here can't crack the DHD's protection, then i'll have little choice but to sell and get the N2.

Wren nexus one was released the phone was available the same day as the announcement. There has been talk that google will be selling it direct again this time round though I m not convinced it ll be on the same day. However, there shouldn't be long wait like DHD.
Personally I m not sure if it ll be a better phone, as I hated everything there is about Galaxy S. It ll basically be Gingerbread vs almighty DHD on Froyo, assuming HTC won't be bothered to update DHD to gingerbread any time soon. I m sticking with DHD for now unless Samsung has real trick up it's sleeve this time. I find it hard to convince myself to put up with another dreadful Galaxy S alike experience.
Sigh.. Only if HTC is more ethusiatic about it's software upgrade and Motorola is more keen about Android...

Sansung's got really nice hardware(only nice in figures) but their system craps,will think about it if it will get a none plastic-like surface and system designed by google itself.

So far the news ive read tell that in terms of hardware its not good, it will be more of a developer test machine since it brings 2.3.

I think Google is committing suicide by letting Samsung handle Nexus Two

Speculation so far:
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- Stock Google Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)- 1.2 GHz processor (mostly overclocked Hummingbird or may be different model)
- 4 inch AMOLED display (Could be Super-AMOLED version)
- 5 megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video capture, front-facing camera
- 512 MB RAM, 16 GB internal storage
- Support for multiple carriers
- All the usuals like WiFi, Bluetooth, 3.5 mm headset jack, etc.
- Outer casing is a mix of metal and plastic materials
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I had a Nexus that was stolen from me, god how i miss that phone
As a replacement i am getting the Desire HD through the insurance i had on the Nexus.
However having been on the gravy train that is Android Dev phones (G1 & Nexus one) i must say that the Desire HD doesn't seem to be a worthy upgrade from the nexus, i was pretty psyched in the beginning about the Desire HD but the more i learn about it the less it appeals to me.
The screen isn't Amoled; the touch sensor isn't unlimited like i assume it will be on the Nexus two (Galaxy S :Atmel maXtouchsensor),
The battery is not 1500mha - honestly even if the cpu is much more power efficient than the old generation cpu's why not throw in a bigger battery?
And no front facing camera which in itself isn't a deal breaker but cmon, its not like we are buying budget phones here anyways...
As already mentioned possibly only one software upgrade during it's life time which to be honest is quite average however Google Dev phones always has the latest & greatest.
Not to bash on the Desire HD, but honestly its just a EVO with a new CPU minus the frontfacing camera and kickstand.
I will most probably test out the Desire HD and and change to Nexus Two if it seems better in some of these aspects.

Evo 4G is prettier, i would change from a DHD to a Evo 4G or incredible HDin a snap if it wasnt not being able to use it in europe. Why HTC only makes good phones for the US ?! Why are we treated like **** !?

you might as well ask why did the us implement WCDMA or 4G while the rest of the world is stil 3.5G (even in Japan..i think)??
they cater to the specific market needs.
same as Japanese mobile carriers, they only produced their phones for their markets in consideration only.
which is why they are highly sought for

LeviathanPT said:
Evo 4G is prettier, i would change from a DHD to a Evo 4G or incredible HDin a snap if it wasnt not being able to use it in europe. Why HTC only makes good phones for the US ?! Why are we treated like **** !?
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thats just your opinion of things
Europe get the release first for nearly all HTC phones.
the US get rebranded versions. they also get some different phones because they use rubbish CDMA technology.
people hating on the desire hd, if you own one/owned one and played with it and made the comments fair enough. until then you have no right what so ever to "review" a phone you haven't used.
i own one for over a week and i have to say its a great phone.
the phone does have root,be it temporary at the moment but things have to start from somewhere. i don't see the average user like some people here trying to obtain root, but moan and demand it.
i don't see the nexus two being an all awesome phone. the nexus one's bootloader got unlocked with 1 click because it was a development phone but it voided the warranty. how many people are going to risk that with a samsung built device?

SupremeBeaver said:
im in the exact situation! but this is what i plan on doing.
Keep my order, get the desire and play around with it. I'll see what Samsung announce, if it's much better and a worthy upgrade from the DHD then i'll put it up on eBay. Im sure i won't make much of a loss selling it there. Some people pay crazy money
But ultimatly what's most important to me is root, and if the devs here can't crack the DHD's protection, then i'll have little choice but to sell and get the N2.
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absolutely my thinking. I already have the DHD, but if the protection cannot be unlocked, and the specs of the "Nexus two" are OK/confirmed, I have not choice as to sell the DHD. Having had the Nexus One (and still owning it), I am no longer tolerating manufacturers lock-downs! That is a no-go for me nowadays.
Plus: I HATE the speaker on the DHD - (same XXX as on the nexus one). And I really have a bad feeling about these plastic covers on the DHD (only a matter of time until they wear out).
If the "nexus two" has a decent design and better materials (less plastic than the iphone-look-alike Galaxy S), my decision is made...

Yes that's true but im talking in terms of quality, look at the Incredible HD (desire hd for US) and look how perfect it is compared with the Desire HD
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people hating on the desire hd, if you own one/owned one and played with it and made the comments fair enough. until then you have no right what so ever to "review" a phone you haven't used.
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Review ?! What the freaking hell, im talking in terms of product Quality/Design, from every single review and comment ive read theres flaws with the design of the Desire HD, look at EVO 4G and Incredible HD they are brilliant, the EVO 4G came up before the Desire HD any decent company would grab their design and improve it, not make it more ridiculous.
Ive ordered a Desire HD since the day 2 of its announcement then amazon screwed their customers and now im waiting on handtec 3rd shipment so you cant say im a anti Desire HD... freaking fanboys are starting already...

LeviathanPT said:
Speculation so far:
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- Stock Google Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)- 1.2 GHz processor (mostly overclocked Hummingbird or may be different model)
- 4 inch AMOLED display (Could be Super-AMOLED version)
- 5 megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video capture, front-facing camera
- 512 MB RAM, 16 GB internal storage
- Support for multiple carriers
- All the usuals like WiFi, Bluetooth, 3.5 mm headset jack, etc.
- Outer casing is a mix of metal and plastic materials
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512? dont think so...
DHD already has 786. and 1GB will be required for 3.x

1GB ?! :| What the hell where have you read that ?! Link please!

LeviathanPT said:
1GB ?! :| What the hell where have you read that ?! Link please!
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i havent.
its what i would expect from it.

Hey, even Windows 7 can run on 1 gb of memory
Android 3.0 will run on lot less.

hard choise, n2 doesnt exist yet.
btw...I'd rather buy a google experience with a huge screen. actually, the only reason I didnt buy a galaxyS so far, is it's samsung software and the lack of a flash-led. DHD...I dislike how htc managed it

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people hating on the desire hd, if you own one/owned one and played with it and made the comments fair enough. until then you have no right what so ever to "review" a phone you haven't used.
i own one for over a week and i have to say its a great phone.
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I've had the DHD for 5 days and to be honest I'm underwhelmed. I have the regular Desire and the DHD isn't that big of an upgrade. I'm not saying it's a bad phone, just that it's only a little better than the Desire. except speaker is no better than the Desire, infact I find it slightly quieter. Big screen is great if that's what you want, but AMOLED on Desire is more vivid an there seems to be a little motion blur at times.
No problem with proxomity sensor or plastic covers here btw.
I'm going to sell my DHD and wait for something a bit better.

ppxda said:
I've had the DHD for 5 days and to be honest I'm underwhelmed. I have the regular Desire and the DHD isn't that big of an upgrade. I'm not saying it's a bad phone, just that it's only a little better than the Desire. except speaker is no better than the Desire, infact I find it slightly quieter. Big screen is great if that's what you want, but AMOLED on Desire is more vivid an there seems to be a little motion blur at times.
No problem with proxomity sensor or plastic covers here btw.
I'm going to sell my DHD and wait for something a bit better.
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OK - please share what did you expect DHD to be? Please tell me what evolutionary leap could be achieved in about six monts? And enough of the AMOLED thing! HTC are absolutely right not to put themselves dependant on one supplier that also happens to be their competitor. And when (not if) they are forced to switch to another technology, they will have to take the blame for it. Fool me once - shame on you, fool me twice - shame on me. You get bigger screen, more RAM and ROM, better camera, next gen CPU... what else can be desired in six months of evolution? 2GHz CPU? Not gonna happen! I personally would like from the phone to cook and clean, but that also woun't happen .

Upgrading my phone: DHD to SGS 2

Hey
So its getting close to the time when I say farewell to my DHD and sell it off to make way for the Samsung Galaxy S 2 . Is this a smart move ?
I thought about the Motorola Atrix 4G but in term of specs and availability it shows no advantage over the SGS 2. Another candidate was the LG Optimus 2x but honestly LG still has to sort out a lot of issues with that device.
Why am I selling my DHD:
- Heavy phone
- ****ty battery
- Poor HTC software support
Any recommendations and feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Id wait until htc finish their device release cycle in the 4th quarter.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Heavy? My hd2 is just about the same weight and feels amazing in the hand! Atleast better than the crappy Samsung plastic feel. Even though I'd trade my hd2 for a Nexus S anyday.
Sent from my Gingerfied hd2

mjehan said:
Hey
So its getting close to the time when I say farewell to my DHD and sell it off to make way for the Samsung Galaxy S 2 . Is this a smart move ?
I thought about the Motorola Atrix 4G but in term of specs and availability it shows no advantage over the SGS 2. Another candidate was the LG Optimus 2x but honestly LG still has to sort out a lot of issues with that device.
Why am I selling my DHD:
- Heavy phone
- ****ty battery
- Poor HTC software support
Any recommendations and feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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Poor HTC software support?? Are you kidding right? HTC has the best support so far.
I had a few Samsung phones. Support is not a strong point at Samsung.
SGS 2 is made of pure plastic. Are you going to trade full aluminium casing for cheap plastics???
Oh ... yeah.... My last Samsung phone was the i8000 a.k.a the Omnia II and in quality terms it was bad. Cheap plastic. For example the stylus that came with the package scratched my screen so bad for the first time that I used it... I could feel the scratch with my finger! The stylus was very abrasive ( bad constuction ).
DHD is a solid phone... heavy... I don't mind because it's a great felling when I hold it in my hand.
Battery is great for a 4.3 inch display. Trust me... I owned a HD2 and the battery was crappyer.
This is my opinion about DHD and Samsung phones.
If I were you I would wait for HTC to release the next generation of smartphones.
Anyway... it's your decision.

Agree!
I agree. I have a DHD and a SGS, IMHO TouchWiz is whoesome when side by side with Sense UI: it is laggy and widgets are ugly. Although the Hummingbird + PVR + Super AMOLED seems far better than Snapdragon + Adreno + SLCD, Samsung could not refine its software as HTC.

Choices...
Go with your gut. SGS2 is still younger and newer so it will in a way be a better phone than the DHD. If you're switching because of the weight, then go with Samsung. If you're also switching because of support, you'd be surprised to discover that Samsung is not better at it than HTC. Some SGS users around the world are still not getting Froyo unless they flash a custom ROM. HTC actually announced that they'll update the DHD and Z with 2.3 and custom development have already started so both stock users and custom rom users will enjoy the same Ginger goodness...
At the end of the day, it really boils down to your preference. I personally would stay with HTC than get a Samsung. IMHO, they're not in the same class, the only true competition to the DHD for me is the Thunderbolt (optimized productivity) and the NS is for the SGS2 (optimized gaming).

mjehan said:
Hey
So its getting close to the time when I say farewell to my DHD and sell it off to make way for the Samsung Galaxy S 2 . Is this a smart move ?
I thought about the Motorola Atrix 4G but in term of specs and availability it shows no advantage over the SGS 2. Another candidate was the LG Optimus 2x but honestly LG still has to sort out a lot of issues with that device.
Why am I selling my DHD:
- Heavy phone
- ****ty battery
- Poor HTC software support
Any recommendations and feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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I've been contemplating the same move, mainly because it is the only 4.3" screen handset with a dual-core slated for release any time soon. I'm intrigued by the SAMOLED PLUS and can't wait to see it in the flesh, especially now the PenTile sub pixel arrangement has been ditched. That said, I'm not keen on TouchShizz (or SenseUI for that matter), and while the lightness appeals to me, the 'plasticky' feel of Samsung handsets has always been a turn off! Just referring to your point about HTC support, Samsung are no better and in many ways they are worse, so be aware before you make the jump.
The most important factor for me however is the development scene. I mean, that's why we're all here at XDA! Don't get me wrong, I know that it may well be an active scene with many custom ROM's based on Samsung Firmware but will there be CM? Will there be tailor made AOSP ROM's built to harness the power of the hardware. That is what is holding me back. The possibility of a signed or even encrypted bootloader is high, and the 2 separate hardware revisions (Tegra, Exynos) will hinder true development so until I've scene the forums being filled with weird and wonderful ROM's and Kernels, I will stick with the DHD. Recently the DHD scene has had a massive boost with the release of the Telus DHD and Inspire 4G bringing in a whole wave of North American interest in the device.
Anyway, the SGS2 is highly appealing with great hardware but for me I think making the jump early would be a mistake, unless you are happy with stock phones. Maybe I'll see you in the SGS2 section sometime in the future.
Regards.

I'll be ditching my dhd for the s2. HTC have gone down hill, they can't even align a camera lense! Customer service is rubbish too. Hate this poorly built phone.
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The SGS2 is gonna be a good phone no doubt. I personally like the "bigness" of the DHD coz i have big hands and i like to feel it in my pocket I even have a case that makes it even thicker.
I dont like Samsung smartphones they dont appeal to me somehow. Cant put my finger on it exactly but i think its a mix of the amoled displays which i dont like and the plasticy feel..
I cant say too much about the HTC support but i think its great that they're bringing the Gingerbread rom soon. Build quality is very good with my phone but i heard it can be different.
@Battery: It heavily depends what kind of user you are. But in my case the battery of the DHD is more than enough. With my use it lasts me 2 full days then i charge it overnight.
I think its a "how many days are you getting" thing with the battery. When you're a heavy user with everything enabled and everything syncing/pushing all the time it will last you a day. And i dont think thats gonna change with the SGS2. Maybe you'll have 30% left in the evening instead of 20%. So what you gonna charge anyway.
My DHD never lasted me less then a day even when i play games and watch movies and use my psx emulator. What do i want more? If i go on a trip i take a spare battery with me anyway.
I'd wait and see what HTC will release as a successor of the DHD.
So I dont want to go in the whole custom rom district because its not for everyone. But its just amazing how good the scene is with the DHD! They have a rom for everyone Guess we'll have to wait and see if there will be anything comparable with the SGS2.

mjehan said:
Hey
Why am I selling my DHD:
- Heavy phone
- ****ty battery
- Poor HTC software support
Any recommendations and feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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To answer your criticisms,
- heavy phone, yeah the samsung will feel like a cheap piece of plastic against the DHD
- ****ty battery, it really isn't with a little TLC I easily get 24 hours of my DHD and with mad-murdocks battery fix even more is attainable
- Poor HTC software support, lol your off to samsung good luck with your updates

There are a lot of reason why my love for the DHD died faster than its battery apart from the reasons mentioned:
- GPS doesn't work for me despite the fixes
- SMS notification issue (which is seriously such a let down!)
- HTC Sense killing my android experience
If I was to pick one flaw that ruins this phone it is the battery. I have tried all fixes, tweaks and tricks. It goes only 4,5 hours if used constantly which is unacceptable... and that too is if I disable all the features this phone has to offer.
At least with the Atrix or the SGS 2 I will have 8-10 hour battery under normal Wifi/3G conditions which I need since I am quite often away from home travelling.
PS: im not gonna buy additional accessories like batteries or chargers that I need to carry around with me.

Every SGS I've handled (friends also had), totally four, are crackling all over the housing from back cover to display bezel. That was so complete turn-off and I just couldn't stand it, I had to sell the phone.
DHD on the other hand while being solid aluminium, has it's weak plastics and they are quite turn-off as well, but luckily some blu-tacks have maid my device completely noiseless what comes to cracklings etc.
SGS2 looks quite sexy, no doubt, but having the experience from it's predecessor I haven't even thoght about it yet. I got to see & feel it in hands.
Oh, does SGS2 still have RFS filesystem? That was truely horrifying with random lags!

mjehan said:
There are a lot of reason why my love for the DHD died faster than its battery apart from the reasons mentioned:
- GPS doesn't work for me despite the fixes
- SMS notification issue (which is seriously such a let down!)
- HTC Sense killing my android experience
It goes only 4,5 hours if used constantly which is unacceptable...
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I believe you i'd lose my love for my DHD too under these conditions :/ Strange thing though, i have none of them!
I really like HTC Sense when you disable the annoying parts like Hub or Likes. And as I said my battery lasts usually for 2 days, at least one (24h) when I use it really heavily with emulators, movies and long phone calls.
With some love (right custom rom - i use ARHD, maybe different radio, watching processes to find out cpu abuse, disable unneeded stuff with TitaniumBackup) the DHD is a great great phone.
Imho thats how android works, i mean its even based on Linux. Once you've arranged everything the way you want it, its awesome. But it needs some work to get there.
At this moment no one knows if SGS2 wont have its own problems or when it will be available, so i guess we have to wait and see till some real reviews come out.
If you want something that just works without worrying, with basic functions, but doesnt let you change things and arrange it the way you want, i suggest u go for an iPhone the 5th version should be announced soon i think.

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If you want something that just works without worrying, with basic functions, but doesnt let you change things and arrange it the way you want, i suggest u go for an iPhone the 5th version should be announced soon i think.
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I'll never go Apple. I'm too smart to fall for their marketing gimmicks

Would you rather have a samsung galaxy 1 or a desire hd?
Well you can get your samsung galaxy 2 and then you know whats going to happen!! HTC will release a beast and blow it out of the water, again.
Samsung make good internal components and then choose to plague them with bad software and lousy build quality, i'm not sure on the battery life on the sgs or sgs2, but the old on was a very good phone albeit with some sorry issues (ie touchwiz)
We had one in our work the other day (sgs2) and it was blazingly fast, apparently there's only 2 of them made and they were prototypes, it was super slim and very quick, quite impressed with it if i'm honest.
However HTC will always come out with something better though, as for the comments you've made, the battery is poor if your going to hammer it with gaming, music, a 4.3inch screen, wifi downloading, video streaming....etc and to name but a few of the things which the dhd does just superbly, I would just like to say that for the size of the battery, i think it lasts remarkably well. Oh and that's not even starting with the overclocking which most dhd users will be doing, i've had mine up to 1996mhz, never went higher than that.
The weight of the phone for me is great, i don't like light, cheap ass phones, if the samsung galaxy S was solid chrome with no touchwiz then it would have sold a hell of lot more.
As for HTC customer support, I have to say i've always had good service from my HTC products so i've never needed to call them, that's not to say that they won't ever go wrong but i've never had to call them.
From what i hear though they're not too bad, I've heard some stories about Samsung though.
My advice would be to see your contract through (if that's what you have) and then see whats on offer, timing is crucial if you don't want to make a bad decision when purchasing / contracting a phone.
I got lucky.

I'd wait for htc pyramid. That phone will be cranking. No point getting dual core now anyway because we don't really have the software to support it. You'd be like all those people who "upgraded" to windows xp 64 bit edition only to find a bunch of drivers were unavailable and 99% of the software was still 32 bit anyway.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.

Well,here's the rub.
The DHD is probably as fast as it gets for now.As dr.m0x said,the software we have now can't take advantage of dual cores.So they might be only a little faster,but most probably not because of the second core.
Sense,IMO,is the best Android UI(If i can call it that) up to date.Yeah,it makes the phone a little slow,but with such a beast the DHD is,I don't really notice.I had noticed on my Hero,that's for sure! It makes everyday usage easier and more appealing for the end user.Some may prefer AOSP/CM and they are right in some ways.It's fast,it's customizable,it's light and is the first to receive new software.But I'll stay with Sense on my primary phone(Am running CM7 on my Desire though! ).
Build quality is just wow.My pal punched me the other day and his fist landed on my leg,just on my DHD(I know,he is such a bastard! ).The thing didn't even get a scratch on it(well,so to say,it couldn't get scratched by that but other,worse things could've happened).The guy's hand was tied and sore for more than two weeks! There are some problematic phones,yeah,but not so many imo.Plus,it's aluminium,not plastic(I do hate plastic phones).
As for hardware,I generally agree the DHD isn't the most powerful beast out there.But it's got some guts.Really,REALLY strong guts if you ask me.Not just talking about power out of the box,but how many phones do you know that exist out there that can handle OCing up to 2GHz STABLE?The SGS hits some 45 degrees Celsius(dunno about fahreneit)on heavy usage(ie gaming) @1GHz.My DHD,after two hours of playing Angry Birds,Gun Bros and some videos,it never even reached 37(I have SetCPU notify me and underclock when it hits 37 degrees).Now watch my sig.It's running at a solid 1.8GHz.Get me a SGS to do that.If the plastic doesn't melt,I'm buying it!
Then there's developer support.It might not be what everyone wants,but I and most of us around here do care I think.There is word that the SGS2 has a locked bootloader.So it will either be unrootable(by that I mean custom roms etc) or it will be a pain in the @$$ to root it.Until it's confirmed whether it has a locked bootloader or not,I wouldn't consider it.But that's just me!
Not wanting to be a fanboy here,but the DHD is the purchase I regret the least.I did regret getting a Desire over the SGS,but that's not the case with the DHD.
So yeah,I'd agree with the guys that said you should keep the DHD for now and wait for HTC's dual-core offer.I bet it'll kick some ass!

I wouldnt do, i'm sure the SGS 2 is better, but why would it be worth? You got yourself already kinda expensive phone, selling your DHD would make you lose quite some money, ofcourse its true selling it now would bring more money then in 2 years, but I wouldnt do it.
I got mine DHD with 24 months contract, and well I most will keep the phone for those 24, not that it matters much, but I think its a good investment to keep a phone for atleast 2 years and then perhaps get a new phone after 2 years with a new contract of 24 months perhaps.

Wait until HTC releases there next desire HD, maybe desire HD 2? or the rumoured pyramid...
I've made a pact to myself that I will be getting the next nexus phone (nexus 3). It'll be the best for software updates (first phone to get it) and by then vanilla android should be awesome.

dhiral.v said:
Wait until HTC releases there next desire HD, maybe desire HD 2? or the rumoured pyramid...
I've made a pact to myself that I will be getting the next nexus phone (nexus 3). It'll be the best for software updates (first phone to get it) and by then vanilla android should be awesome.
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As soon as I can, I'm gonna go Nexus and never go back. Nexus is the face of android through Google's eyes, android as it should be. It may not have the best hardware for the duration of of being Nexus, but it will always have the best software. People are almost hitting the 4k mark in quadrant with no overclocks on their nexus S's.
Sent from my Gingerfied hd2

Bye Hero, rember you for ever.

Well its time to upgrade, after 2 years with my little Hero. Amazing phone.
Any way im down to a choice of 2. And strugling to make a choice.
HTC Sensation, or the HTC Evo 3D

wait one month
just wait one month for the XE. I know the beats part is a gimmick but it will be roughly the same price and a faster clocked processor and better headphones out of the box
I still have my hero as well. I want to upgrade but I personally find that most new phones just all look alike. The hero was just so awesomely different haha !!

big_sw2000 said:
Well its time to upgrade, after 2 years with my little Hero. Amazing phone.
Any way im down to a choice of 2. And strugling to make a choice.
HTC Sensation, or the HTC Evo 3D
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Sensation it's a better phone...i read that the HERO S will come out in the USA and i think in Europe to...but to bad that the phone isn't dualcore...because the hero made a big revolution in the phone industry...
Stefan

I went for a Samsung Galaxy S2 and never been Happy
I thought I'd Give Samsung a chance after HTC HERO and HTC HD7 and I feel I made the right choice.
Reasons I like the SGS2 :
1) You can easily flash latest firmwares without rooting your phone through a software called 'ODIN' (so you can flash a normal firmware without the carrier garbage)
2) You can easily get HTC look with Launcherpro with the Sense theme and another app which gives you the Sense 3.0 lockscreen
3) I feel the Camera is better than the Sensation.
4) Initially it felt very cheap and way too light , but you grow on it and I am actually happy now its lighter as my fingers don't get tired holding it for longer period.
5) It has more Ram than the SGS2
6) Not sure about the 3D but I played with the LG optimus 3D and feel 3D is just a gimmick, you can only see it if you old the phone at a particular angle and then again lot of people complain about headaches if they use it for longer periods
Sense is brilliant but then sometimes it feels laggish ..
Just my thoughts but I would suggest you try to play with whichever phone you want to go for as then you will be able to decide which you feel more comfy with

tfn said:
I went for a Samsung Galaxy S2 and never been Happy
I thought I'd Give Samsung a chance after HTC HERO and HTC HD7 and I feel I made the right choice.
Reasons I like the SGS2 :
1) You can easily flash latest firmwares without rooting your phone through a software called 'ODIN' (so you can flash a normal firmware without the carrier garbage)
2) You can easily get HTC look with Launcherpro with the Sense theme and another app which gives you the Sense 3.0 lockscreen
3) I feel the Camera is better than the Sensation.
4) Initially it felt very cheap and way too light , but you grow on it and I am actually happy now its lighter as my fingers don't get tired holding it for longer period.
5) It has more Ram than the SGS2
6) Not sure about the 3D but I played with the LG optimus 3D and feel 3D is just a gimmick, you can only see it if you old the phone at a particular angle and then again lot of people complain about headaches if they use it for longer periods
Sense is brilliant but then sometimes it feels laggish ..
Just my thoughts but I would suggest you try to play with whichever phone you want to go for as then you will be able to decide which you feel more comfy with
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Hahah, almost the exactly same reason as I had to change to a SGS2..

After seeing a friends SGS2 I would heartily recommend it. The phone is a beast!

love hero forever

:O Thats Awesome I think im gonna sell if it comes in Europe / Netherlands

I'm going to say goodbye to my hero aswell and I'll probably choose SGS2.
I've played a while with it, and must say that I don't wanna take little hero back in hand Amazing phone.

I would actually recommend ppl to wait a bit before buying new phone. ICS will soon come, and will be huge change to Android. The hardware buttons will be on the screen which makes those we have today quite unnecessary. Wait for the nexus prime ;-)
sent with love from me to you

I'm going to go for a Sensation XE I think - Galaxy 2 is a damn good phone but I've never been fond of Samsung or the way it looks. Waiting might be a good solution - never know what they have up their sleeves... a new Hero would be awesome

Like others say wait as the sensation xe & galaxy nexus will both be out soon, I'm looking at upgrading to one of them soon and will miss my hero lots but want something faster now.
Sent from my HTC Hero using Tapatalk

Well my choices are Nexus S or Desire S. Any advice on that? Can't really go for super expensive phones atm.

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Well my choices are Nexus S or Desire S. Any advice on that? Can't really go for super expensive phones atm.
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Nexus s since ita going to get ICS
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Sgs2 has still got better specs than Nexus prime, besides its easier to update SGS2 firmware without rooting via ODIN, unless ofcourse the SGS3 has something better like quad core

How awesome it would be to have a true Hero follow-up by HTC. They can keep certain design elements like a curved chin using a curved screen. Quad Core. No buttons like the Galaxy Prime. With ICS Android 4.0.
Oh, well..or maybe I should just get the Galaxy Prime. I am waiting as well, but would hate giving up on my Hero. It has served me well and is still doing alright.

does anyone want to sell or trade there hero??

I don't think that it's a good idea to buy a hero today.
The main problem is that the hero needs better hardware to run correctly latest sense stuff
It needs better processor, more ram and (as for me) faster access to memory.
It's only a good idea if you don't want to use it as a daily use.
I love my hero, but I guess I will buy an EVO 3D or some better phone to run sense 3.0 or 3.5 well

finally what have you boght?

you guys should rly upgrade asap. i got a sensation and man its a huge upgrade from a old hero. screen is gorgeous, very fast, updated firmware, camera, etc. i cant even look at my hero anymore. lol. its so slow at everything now that ive used a dual core phone. only thing i miss about the hero is the trackball, battery life, and exceptional reception. ill still keep it as a backup phone though