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I have an Cingular 8525 and two of my buddies have another 8525 and a softbank X01HT. Why do my pictures suck in the dark and there's don't. They have the same good quality in the dark while my pictures come out very blurred and dark. I checked the adjustments and they were the same. Me and my friend both have the same rom on the 8525 and everything! I don't get it? Did HTC start shipping different lenses after time? Has anyone else noticed this?
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I have an Cingular 8525 and two of my buddies have another 8525 and a softbank X01HT. Why do my pictures suck in the dark and there's don't. They have the same good quality in the dark while my pictures come out very blurred and dark. I checked the adjustments and they were the same. Me and my friend both have the same rom on the 8525 and everything! I don't get it? Did HTC start shipping different lenses after time? Has anyone else noticed this?
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My Tytn is not good in the dark. I doudt there is anychange in the lens but there may well be a difference in the auto light level increments. Before you ask how you could change that - I don't know. Don't even know if it's possible.
Mike
I dont believe that this is caused by lens. maybe version of Camera program is little bit different or some DLL file (but you said, it is the same). anyway you can compare it or try version from Trinity (it is here somewhere) but this version have not comfortable installation and do not support front camera and light I guess. But if your device is newer like the others, then maybe HTC used different (and perhaps cheaper) CMOS chip - I dont know, it is only speculation, but it is nothing unusually when electronic company uses cheaper components in newer pieces.
Ill try to get a picture so you guys can see the difference and what I mean. Adjusting the settings does nothing, in fact, it makes it worse for mine...
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Ill try to get a picture so you guys can see the difference and what I mean. Adjusting the settings does nothing, in fact, it makes it worse for mine...
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That would be interesting to see. It's not that we don't believe you, just that we don't think it's the lens that is different. My Tytn as I said above is very very poor at night but great for sunny day photos. I think in my older Tytn it is set too low for light exposure. It seems to adjust itself in incremental steps to the light level but in dark conditions it does not give nearly high enough a light exposure level. It is entirely possible in later/different models this hard coding has been adjusted for better results.
Mike
mikechannon said:
That would be interesting to see. It's not that we don't believe you, just that we don't think it's the lens that is different. My Tytn as I said above is very very poor at night but great for sunny day photos. I think in my older Tytn it is set too low for light exposure. It seems to adjust itself in incremental steps to the light level but in dark conditions it does not give nearly high enough a light exposure level. It is entirely possible in later/different models this hard coding has been adjusted for better results.
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Ya, I just want you guys to see it. It's not a minor difference. Mine is so bad I don't even try to take photos at night, while my buddies' has unbelievable night photos...damn htc!
benfica88 said:
Ya, I just want you guys to see it. It's not a minor difference. Mine is so bad I don't even try to take photos at night, while my buddies' has unbelievable night photos...damn htc!
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I feel your pain, I have this problem with mine (TyTN) too. It takes really bad pictures in dark areas, and most pictures look too dark and blurry even when there is a decent amount of light. I saw many cheaper phones doing a much better job. Really a shame.
My htc tytn also takes crappy night pictures. the front camera takes better ones at night. hell every other cell phone i had in the past and all of my friends phones take better night pictures.
very lame on htcs part.
is there a way to change how the camera detects light in video or still mode. the camera keeps adjusting to much during different contrast of the back ground that is being recorded
with a well lit area. i would like to sample the light of one area and lock its exposer time permanently.
Could it be software related? I mean, i've installed now Black Satin and i have the impression that the photoquality has gone down in the dark compared with the Black Dymond release. Or am i just imagining things?
Is there a way to not use bright Mode when taking photos. I am finding it is making medium to close up shots too bright and over exposed. I can't believe there isn't an option in the camera settings not to use it. with the normal mode the images seem too look ok in the preview then the bright mode ruins it when you take the shot.
anyone else experienced this?
Is it just me then?
Have you tried changing the brightness settings? You can also adjust the Contrast, Saturation and Sharpness in the Advanced settings.
I personally haven't had any problems with shots being too bright and over exposed.
you probably haven't used your flash then! try taking a picture of a group at dinner, looks fine in preview then bright-mode turns everone into ghosts!
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Is it just me then?
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No it's me too..................
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588153&highlight=dissapointing+camera
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you probably haven't used your flash then! try taking a picture of a group at dinner, looks fine in preview then bright-mode turns everone into ghosts!
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Ah ha, finally someone who knows what I am talking about.
Me too, its rediculous. Trying to take close up pics of people faces, everyone has their eyes closed! Its as bright as a xenon flash but instead of flashig for a split second, it stays on for over a second!
Wow, that is strange. I have no such issue when using flash. My white balance is set to auto and picture quality at super fine. My only issue when using the flash is that my face seems blushed rather than flushed.
for me its not about the quaity of the photo or any settings, its just the fact that the flash blinds people
I agree, even my black friends are coming out white.
I've found a way around it,
already posted it too, but no one seems to be caring.
Install the App TorchButton.
Then, before taking a picture at night in closeup (with overexposure usually)
Turn on Torchbutton (mode 1 bright or mode 2 very bright), then go to camera and disable camera flash. Torch button Flash still stays on and the camera now meters the current brightness and doesnt add any bright mode anymore.
Now you get quite decent pictures.
It sounds complicated but it works great on closeup pics
Example of the difference below
Pic1 camera without Torchbutton
alibehzad said:
I've found a way around it,
already posted it too, but no one seems to be caring.
Install the App TorchButton.
Then, before taking a picture at night in closeup (with overexposure usually)
Turn on Torchbutton (mode 1 bright or mode 2 very bright), then go to camera and disable camera flash. Torch button Flash still stays on and the camera now meters the current brightness and doesnt add any bright mode anymore.
Now you get quite decent pictures.
It sounds complicated but it works great on closeup pics
Example of the difference below
Pic1 camera without Torchbutton
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Thanks for the heads up
I updated my ROM to 1.48 and now I have the exact same "bright" problem and man is it annoying. I'll take a look at the reg to see if anything has changed.
fredskis said:
I agree, even my black friends are coming out white.
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hahaha now that's funny. agreed, same problem here. in fact my wife says i cant take picture of the kids anymore because it makes them cry its so bright lmfao.
i never thought that i would hear the camera flash on a mobile phone being "too bright" and blinding people
Getting mine tomorrow.. Stupid fedex already has it in my town since morning but won't deliver because it's not due until tomorrow!
here4info said:
i never thought that i would hear the camera flash on a mobile phone being "too bright" and blinding people
Getting mine tomorrow.. Stupid fedex already has it in my town since morning but won't deliver because it's not due until tomorrow!
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yup, and all of this after the problem of there not being enough lightin the past. lol one extreme to another
alibehzad said:
I've found a way around it,
already posted it too, but no one seems to be caring.
Install the App TorchButton.
Then, before taking a picture at night in closeup (with overexposure usually)
Turn on Torchbutton (mode 1 bright or mode 2 very bright), then go to camera and disable camera flash. Torch button Flash still stays on and the camera now meters the current brightness and doesnt add any bright mode anymore.
Now you get quite decent pictures.
It sounds complicated but it works great on closeup pics
Example of the difference below
Pic1 camera without Torchbutton
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Thanks for the work around, but I'm sure you will agree that in most cases when you just want to take a quick snap we will either forget to turn torch on or just won't be bothered because you don't want to fiddle around. It would be nice to have a button in the camera to turn bright mode off.
Lets hope HTC are listening to the forum! and not got the blinkers on!
Is there any tweak out there to reduce the brightness ? Every picture is over-exposed when the flash is activated.
Thanks.
fredskis said:
I agree, even my black friends are coming out white.
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yeah right on koala
richardirv said:
Thanks for the work around, but I'm sure you will agree that in most cases when you just want to take a quick snap we will either forget to turn torch on or just won't be bothered because you don't want to fiddle around. It would be nice to have a button in the camera to turn bright mode off.
Lets hope HTC are listening to the forum! and not got the blinkers on!
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The issue behind this is that the camera meters and focuses on the initial flash (assist flash) and then when you press the shutter button, the bright flash (shutter flash) comes up leaving no time for the camera to react to the new light conditions.
I've found that in these circumstances the best is to set forced flash on so that the metering is done properly.
I have the Nexus One Running on Cyanogen 5.0.4.1 and I love it
but the camera is giving me some problems,
For some reason I always have verticals lines on my photos and
it makes to photos look very bad! I've attached a photo so you can see
on what i am talking about.
I've tried to use different settings for the camera (2-3-5 mega pixel combined
with Normal - Fine - SuperFine quality) and it maybe helped a little but
still not very good.
Is there anything that can be done to solve this BIG issue?
I mean, Rom with a fix, some configurations I did not tried or there's nothing
to do - the camera is not great?
It was very surprising for me cause the developers of the phone
and camera module never checked this? the photos look really really bad.
Will appreciate some help....
Thanks,
Guy.
it's normal for camera phone to have the lines when the condition is not enough light...
Well, not really when a device also has a flash.
My photos are crisp although it's 3MP without flash...
in short...don't expect too much from a camera phone then it will be alright.
for me it's normal because the features exist in every single camera phones (nokia models) i've owned when taken picture in poor light condition.
did it have flash when you took those photos?
if not, did you try to enable the flash so it would always flash?
i don't have lines, but the flash not always goes off when it should on automatic (with pocket cams too) but usually the pics still worked out fine
did you try fx camera?
Flash on will improve the picture... but not necessarily good enuf... for good low light photos, you need to be able to play with the camera exposure settings which most phones don't have... else, you an external light source
I had once a digital camera with the same effect in the photos.
It was a problem in the CCD sensor. It had to be repaired.
Well try and wiping the phone or Nand restoring to a back up and check if the problem still is there.
maybe its a defective camera? i dont have an issue with the camera on my nexus and im running cm 5.0.4. i think it takes wonderful photos. here are a few
Just for reference
| = Vertical
- = Horizontal
I see the horizontal lines in your pictures. (OP)
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Just for reference
| = Vertical
- = Horizontal
I see the horizontal lines in your pictures. (OP)
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Ahh, but the phone is horizontal, therefore the lines are vertical in relation to the phone
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Ahh, but the phone is horizontal, therefore the lines are vertical in relation to the phone
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Touché
10 chars.
guy234 curious. does this happen with all of your pictures? or ones taken inside?
If its just inside, is the lighting fluorescent? Fluorescent lighting can cause these types of lines in photographs.
guys234 said:
I have the Nexus One Running on Cyanogen 5.0.4.1 and I love it
but the camera is giving me some problems,
For some reason I always have verticals lines on my photos and
it makes to photos look very bad! I've attached a photo so you can see
on what i am talking about.
I've tried to use different settings for the camera (2-3-5 mega pixel combined
with Normal - Fine - SuperFine quality) and it maybe helped a little but
still not very good.
Is there anything that can be done to solve this BIG issue?
I mean, Rom with a fix, some configurations I did not tried or there's nothing
to do - the camera is not great?
It was very surprising for me cause the developers of the phone
and camera module never checked this? the photos look really really bad.
Will appreciate some help....
Thanks,
Guy.
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I am more concerned with the pink blob in the middle of your picture than the vertical lines LOL That pink blob is so annoying really wish they would fix this. It happens to everyone when taking pictures with a white background. Look at the wall, see how it is pink in the middle? That is a major problem with the camera on this phone for me.
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Ahh, but the phone is horizontal, therefore the lines are vertical in relation to the phone
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oh snap, lol, oops
It looks like you have some kind of clear cover over your camera lens. Do you have some kind of case on your phone?
Megapixel does not declare quality. Megapixel is a rating of picture size so changing the MP isn't going to make a difference. Try cleaning the camera lens with a Q-tip dabbed with rubbing alcohol.
I have never seen that on my pictures so it's not normal.
Also remember to post general questions in the right place.
Here are some of my pics
Outside:
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hi peoples. i got a question which bug is quite sometime.
maybe i am the only who encounter it. when ever i wish to take a photo.8 out of 10 the image is blurry or smudge. this may be the first device i am using that encounter this sort of problem. is there any possible way to make it better? maybe some meant say that my hand shaken abit on the moment it snap. but there is time i tried shake my hand right on the moment i snap the photo and it seem fine. but 8 out of 10 is blurry or smudge out.
will like to thanks people out there who know how to solve it and thanks alot for spending time on read this thread
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no issues here 1.66 rom perfectly focused.
Is your ISO on auto? If not, put it there. If so, try forcing it to like 200 or 400.
mazzarin said:
Is your ISO on auto? If not, put it there. If so, try forcing it to like 200 or 400.
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thanks guys for the reply.
as for iso. can any 1 really explain what is it ? i had try setting iso to 400. but the pic still look blurry as usual.
.hide said:
thanks guys for the reply.
as for iso. can any 1 really explain what is it ? i had try setting iso to 400. but the pic still look blurry as usual.
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ISO is the camera's sensitivity to light, the more sensitive the setting (higher number, i.e 800) the better the capture in darker situations (the image quality overall, however, will suffer and become 'grainy').
Is the camera set to touch focus?
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ISO is the camera's sensitivity to light, the more sensitive the setting (higher number, i.e 800) the better the capture in darker situations (the image quality overall, however, will suffer and become 'grainy').
Is the camera set to touch focus?
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hi rp. thanks for the explanation on the iso.
ya it was set as touch focus
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hi rp. thanks for the explanation on the iso.
ya it was set as touch focus
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Try switching touch focus off and take a few pictures. Does the situation change?
does not change. i notice using flash the blurry seem to be gone. but without, it kidda a mess.
p/s. how do i enable metering mode? its gray out on my option.
.hide said:
does not change. i notice using flash the blurry seem to be gone. but without, it kidda a mess.
p/s. how do i enable metering mode? its gray out on my option.
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Are you taking pictures in dark areas or in daylight?
Metering mode is greyed out on mine also.
you're just moving your phone while taking pictures, hence resulting in blurry photos.
Having the flash turned on allows for shorter exposure times, so even if you move your hand you won't notice much blur.
Just try and hold your breath while being still as much as you while while you shoot pictures
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Are you taking pictures in dark areas or in daylight?
Metering mode is greyed out on mine also.
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i am taking on daylight
@ ephestione
ok . at least i learned something new from hd2. thanks alot dude~
good tip to reduce blur in pictures is to set the "brightness" setting to lowest.
This is not actually brightness but exposure time, so shorter exposure means less change to capture you shaky hands.
Pro Tip: also good idea is not drinking 2/3 bottle of whisky in the night and try to take phone 1st thing in the morning
rumpleforeskin said:
good tip to reduce blur in pictures is to set the "brightness" setting to lowest.
This is not actually brightness but exposure time, so shorter exposure means less change to capture you shaky hands.
Pro Tip: also good idea is not drinking 2/3 bottle of whisky in the night and try to take phone 1st thing in the morning
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so meaning reduce brightness will shorter the exposure time?
sorry yah. if my question sound silly. i am a total noob in camera stuff
.hide said:
so meaning reduce brightness will shorter the exposure time?
sorry yah. if my question sound silly. i am a total noob in camera stuff
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yes, becuase the "shutter" is opened for less time, like on a real film camera, the longer its open the more the light reacts with the film, if left open for a long time it will be completely white, if opened and shut extremely fast it will be black...
so, in regards to digital cameras, its the same principal with i think a small lcd screen? registering light.. anyway, its complicated!
so yes is the answer to your question hope this makes a little more sense!
tc3_racer_001 said:
yes, becuase the "shutter" is opened for less time, like on a real film camera, the longer its open the more the light reacts with the film, if left open for a long time it will be completely white, if opened and shut extremely fast it will be black...
so, in regards to digital cameras, its the same principal with i think a small lcd screen? registering light.. anyway, its complicated!
so yes is the answer to your question hope this makes a little more sense!
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wow thanks tc3. realy appreciate for your time for replying me . appreciate
rumpleforeskin said:
good tip to reduce blur in pictures is to set the "brightness" setting to lowest.
This is not actually brightness but exposure time, so shorter exposure means less change to capture you shaky hands.
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Do you have a source for this statement? There is usually a difference between exposure and brightness (see http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/forums/thread653.htm for example) so it would help a lot to know exactly what the HTC HD2 camera "brightness" does.
[edit: I just took five pictures of the same thing, outside in the sun, with varying levels of brightness - they all ended up with the same exposure time.]
also check the camera glass isnt covered in crud
Hi, I don't know how various settings affect the results. However, I wish to be able to take excellent photos and videos under different conditions. Are there any good apps that take better photos and videos than the stock Camera App? I am using GB. Thanks
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Or 1up
Might be dependant on hardware cause of varying quality pics
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what is wrong with pictures taken by the stock camera app? can you provide some example of a 'bad picture'?.
if you want an interface that is more DSLR like try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
here are some of my pics, i dont feel that they are of bad quality for a 'phone camera'.
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_164915.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120525_151334.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_191654.jpg
I am happy with the stock camera.. Many features too
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Perhaps it is better to talk about this via samples.
Any suggestion on better camera settings is appreciated.
I guess I may need an app that stores a set of preset settings
for taking photos/videos under different environments. Thanks.
In photo 1, I do not know why the ceiling lights are like that.
I changed various settings but there was no improvement.
In some cases, the overall color of the room changed.
In photo 2, the room appeared to be dark but it was not.
I changed the flash to auto, on along with changing other
settings. The room still appeared to be dark.
In photo 3, again, that place was not dark. Setting the flash
to auto or on did not help.
In photo 4, everything including the room appears to be somewhat yellowish.
In reality, the wall is white and the pillows are gray.
madbird said:
what is wrong with pictures taken by the stock camera app? can you provide some example of a 'bad picture'?.
if you want an interface that is more DSLR like try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
here are some of my pics, i dont fell that the are of bad quality for a 'phone camera'.
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_164915.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120525_151334.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_191654.jpg
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Thanks for the suggestion but I am not a professional. I don't know how various settings affect the results. By the time I have tested out various settings, things that I want to capture will have been gone.
ah now things are getting clearer . your pictures looks a little bit like something is wrong with the 'white balance' of your camera. so you can try different settings for the white balance, the default should be automatic (AWB). I'm not an photoexpert too, but maybe some one else can guide you further with this.
Thanks for pointing this out. I also tried white balance but it did not help. Perhaps I did not do it properly. Hoping somebody could provide some tips. Are the strong glares from the ceiling lights in photo 1 also caused by the white balance?
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In photo 1, I do not know why the ceiling lights are like that.
I changed various settings but there was no improvement.
In some cases, the overall color of the room changed.
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This effect on the ceiling lights is due to a hardware fault, there are no settings within the phone that can correct this. You can try, like me, and use photoshop. For me, its no problem because I have used photoshop for many years, but others are not so fortunate. This fault is well documented. Samsung know about it, yet have done nothing to correct it. The only way is to send the unit back to the retailer for a new unit. I tried three or four brand new units and they were all the same.
In general. The camera has limitations because of its size and proximity to other circuitry that may introduce noise etc. Its 8megapix with a tiny lens, so as is, I feel it does a pretty good job (apart from that pink dot that is). To get better pictures, consider post processing with photoshop. If that's not an option, and quite frankly I would not recommend purchasing it just for pics from any camphone, try the GIMP, its free and does an awful lot to enhance your pics. You can find the GIMP here www.gimp.org it will run on linux, windows and the Mac
Hope that helps
So, getting something like Camera ZOOM FX won't help.
hajime_android said:
So, getting something like Camera ZOOM FX won't help.
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Nope. sorry about that.
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This effect on the ceiling lights is due to a hardware fault, there are no settings within the phone that can correct this.
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Is there a name for this hardware fault? Does the S3 has this problem as well?
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Is there a name for this hardware fault? Does the S3 has this problem as well?
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Good question. I know the S2 does, and we all know about the Galaxy Note. I can see evidence of the problem on a slashgear.com presentation, and its that presentation that stopped me from going over to the S3. However, there are plenty of youtube tests where it seems pretty good. The S3 has only just been released, so it might be a while more before any issues become apparent. I think its one where you try before you buy. Personally, I'm not touching either the S3 or the 'Note until I have proof that the issue has been resolved.
Edit. The fault is commonly known as "the pink dot"
In photo 1 was the lens clean? Might sound obvious but even the slightest bit of grease or diet can affect how sources of light spear in photos. Typically in any photo I take where I light bulb or something similar is in the picture if the lens was not completely clean I got a similar effect as in photo 1
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In photo 1 was the lens clean? Might sound obvious but even the slightest bit of grease or diet can affect how sources of light spear in photos. Typically in any photo I take where I light bulb or something similar is in the picture if the lens was not completely clean I got a similar effect as in photo 1
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Well, there must be a lot of pink dirt around. My crappy clam phone must have pink dirt repellent, because no matter how greasy the lens gets, pics from it don't have a pink dot. Neither does my DSLR when the uv filter gets filthy, or my specs come to that. Sorry, but the dirt bit on this issue is a red herring. The camera has a defect.
I use UCam. A lot of "pro" settings and also some cool. And... you can disable shutter sound.
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i think you should send the device to service/repair, because i think this is an hardware issue. i saw a lot of pictures taken by the note (not only my own device) and they are al just fine with the standard settings.
I just noticed that there is a protective film covering the back camera. Probably Samsung put it there to protect the lens. Do you think this is the cause to all of my problems? Am I supposed to remove it? For the first few days after purchase (3 weeks ago), the Note took excellent photos. As for last week and the week before that, it depends. The thin protective film has been there right from the beginning. Let's say the protective film covering the lens caused the pink dot, how do you explain why the cafe in photos 2 and 3 appeared to be dark whereas in reality, it was not. Also, photo 4 looks yellowish overall.
Hi,
Protective film would most likely create the effect on pic one. (which would be visible when a direct light source or reflection is in the frame.)
Pic two - could be a metering issue. Try changing the (cog wheel =>) metering setting and / or exposure level.
Yellowish photo is the result of incorrect "white balance". Change the white balance setting to incandescent.
I'm using both the stock ICS camera and camera zoom fx. On my previous phone the fx produced much better photos than the stock one. On my G - Note I don't see much difference.
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I just noticed that there is a protective film covering the back camera. Probably Samsung put it there to protect the lens.
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Yes you are supposed to remove it. It does say so in the instructions that came with your phone. Check the camera after you have done this.