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AAAHHH!! Where's my memory?

Ugh! I bought a 4gb storage card. Every application I download, I save to this card yet. I'm down to 3MB of system storage memory. What can I do about this? I'm sick of clearing my storage once a month to be able to use this phone without the memory error popping up. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there somethin I can do in my registry? I already have my emails and internet temporary files going to my storage card. What else can I do?

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1. Try another ROM-Are you still using the original rom it came with?
2. Make sure all you apps are closed - They usually just hide out open in the background.
3. Oxios Hibernate - I'm sure you can find a copy around here someplace. [Here ya go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374029]
4. Could be a memory leak. Certain programs have this effect on WM devices. {See 1.}

Also, remember that text messages take up room too. If you visit alot of websites, be sure to clear that also. I just cleared those 2 myself and I got like 5-6 MB free from just that.

clear temp storage even if it is on your card, it couldn't hurt. also delete keyboards that you installed unless you actually use them a lot because they take up a lot of room. move your ring tones to the SD card as they will still show up. update to the newest official ROM if you don't want to go to a custom, you'll get more memory with the new ROM but not much.

wyldstallyns2589 said:
...you'll get more memory with the new ROM but not much.
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That is very untrue. I rarely run out of memory with Just2Clean.

how is that untrue? i'm on the new stock rom and there is more available memory for storage and program than the stock rom i was on previously.

wyldstallyns2589 said:
how is that untrue? i'm on the new stock rom and there is more available memory for storage and program than the stock rom i was on previously.
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Sorry I misread your post but I thought you meant a new ROM in general not the Latest T-Mobile Update. Which is still way under performing compared to what the cooks generate here.

oh yeah, i had open tough 5.2 for like a day and it had so much more room after all my stuff was installed, it was insane, but it had some problems that i couldn't deal with so i went back to stock.

What sorta probs?
I found that most of/all the default apps on the Wing are total crap. I use very few applications. I just get my email, browse with opera mini, play solitaire, and listen to mp3's. Any more than that I expect the device to have issues to a degree. It only has a 201mhz processor it can't be expected to do much more.

it would scroll through lists randomly which was pretty annoying. you can't use jivetalk (now beejiveIM) on it. and there were issues with the original dialpad such as being damn ugly, fixed it with a skin but then it does it's scrolling thing when i'm trying to dial a number and then won't let me hit anymore numbers and i have to go out of the dialpad and go back in.

LesiRockGoddess said:
Ugh! I bought a 4gb storage card. Every application I download, I save to this card yet. I'm down to 3MB of system storage memory. What can I do about this? I'm sick of clearing my storage once a month to be able to use this phone without the memory error popping up. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there somethin I can do in my registry? I already have my emails and internet temporary files going to my storage card. What else can I do?
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slow down, take a breath....
what rom are you running ???
try installing the cab file for moving IE storage to Storage Card.
on your messages settings save all attatchments to storage card.
there is a solution but you have to let us know whats going on!!!!

robpet2, i happened to stumble on the cab link you have, 'plenty of cabs'. Is there a way to get a quick explaination of some of theme? or possible screen shots? thanks

wookalicious said:
robpet2, i happened to stumble on the cab link you have, 'plenty of cabs'. Is there a way to get a quick explaination of some of theme? or possible screen shots? thanks
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haha... thats a good one.. cant do screenshots for all of them, just type in the name of the cab file in google with .cab at the end and do a search, they should all come up with descriptions.

I don't know what ROM I'm runnin. I don't even know what a ROM is. I look around these forums but no one explains, they just say use xyz cab. *shrugs* I'm totally lost

a rom is essentially the operating system that you use on your phone.
If you don't know what rom you're using, you're probably using the T-Mobile stock rom. We highly recommend flashing a custom rom from that POS.
To do that, you will need to use USPL or you will need to HardSPL your phone. Bear in mind that T-Mobile won't help you if they find a custom rom on your phone, but you can just flash back to the original before sending it in.
Read the USPL and HardSPL threads before taking any action

Thanx, Fzzym. You've given me somewhere to begin

LesiRockGoddess said:
Thanx, Fzzym. You've given me somewhere to begin
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and on your storage memory issue...delete your old mail and text/picture messages then empty your email and text and mms deleted items. also google maps installs and stores its cache in storage memory even if you tell it to install on your card. those are the 2 biggest apps that eat away at my storage memory, although with the open touch 4 lite rom, i usually have 21mb free.

LesiRockGoddess said:
Ugh! I bought a 4gb storage card. Every application I download, I save to this card yet. I'm down to 3MB of system storage memory. What can I do about this? I'm sick of clearing my storage once a month to be able to use this phone without the memory error popping up. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there somethin I can do in my registry? I already have my emails and internet temporary files going to my storage card. What else can I do?
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It seems to me that you are experiencing the memory issues that every new T-Mobile Wing is faced with. It has to do with the default Page Pool size.
The easiest way around this problem is to do an upgrade of the new T-mobile software. You can find this at:
http://member.htc.com/RuuDownload/T-mobileUS/Filedownload.aspx?pid=wing
or you can change the pagepool size manually following the instructions at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313263
Good Luck

memory card rased itself???!!!

i've had an 8gb sandisk mem card for a few years. used to use it in the n95 then when i got the HD in Nov i formatted it and have been using it in there ever since. I've always had heaps of files and programs with no probs, then today i tried to access stuff via total commander and it's all gone bar a folder which is called Opera cache.
all the camera pics, installed pics, music, etc has disapeared, the card when used in a adaptor wont read in the computer, and when looking up settings via the memory function on the phone it says 'not installed'.
i'm running the Rom by Davideuck V7 MSVC for about a month with no probs previously.
can anyone tell m what the hell has happened? is my mem card stuffed or can i somehow get the data back? what concerns me is that the HD mem program wont read it nor will 2 of my computers

I had the same thing... Didn't manage to recover. I did have all of the info stored on my PC so I didn't actually lose anything, as such.
I never did find the cause or recover the data. I suspect that you will have to go to a professional data recovery agent if you want the pics back.
Sorry to hear your - well known - pain.
Nev

Pierced Soul said:
can anyone tell m what the hell has happened? is my mem card stuffed or can i somehow get the data back? what concerns me is that the HD mem program wont read it nor will 2 of my computers
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There´s already a thread discussing this issue. Take a look at it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506560&page=1

Matthes42 said:
There´s already a thread discussing this issue. Take a look at it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506560&page=1
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thanks for the link

were the hell has it gone

i startwed the week offwith nealy 2 mb of memory.....now im down to 0.47..freed some to.86...i think theres gonna be a vido on here of a tytn being smashed with a 2lb lump hammer...im seriously pissed off with this i not loaded anything...there should be realy nothing on the phone......

someone...anyone...i dumped a load more stuff to the storage card but still say memeory critcal....how any one puts up with the things ill never no.....

i love this place...

Storage memory or RAM???
Any emails or SMS's you get should also be stored on the sd card. Also, use an explorer app to check your device, usually apps you have installed actually install to the device instead of sd card like you wanted, Tomtom was a good example of this. Just copy these problem apps to the sd card but don't forget to delete the old shortcut and make a new one so they still work.
Try to get rid of those ringtones sometimes supplied in the roms as these are a waste of space, especially if you are gonna use an MP3 as a ringtone.I did find, however, that you do need to have the message tones stored in windows directory on the device, just can't seem to find them on the sd card.
If its RAM, then there are apps using it. Try to get an app killer so it frees up some ram when you finish using them.
Just a few things you might like to check.
Cheers...

thunderider said:
i love this place...
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Well swearing in the OP is not a good way to get help, putting a lot of angry smilies in the OP isn't either.
Frankly, I am amazed you did got a response in this thread!
Please clean up your OP or I will delete the thread.

I Accidentally Deleted My Copy of Avatar

Something went horribly amiss while trying to transfer the movie from the preinstalled 2 gig to my 8 gig memory card. Although I was able to play the movie one time on my vibrant, the Avatar icon now says "File Not Found" when clicked. I cleared the 2 gig sd card before giving it away so now I'm left without a copy. Is there anyway I could procure a copy from a forum member or is the issue phone related?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

If you moved avatar.dcf you're fine. The icon is set for a specific location which would be where it was on the SD card before and now that it's not, the shortcut icon doesn't work. I moved my copy of Avatar to the internal SD card with EStrongs File Manager (Copy not cut).

Well I click on the folder named Movie on my SD card, but it is no longer there. I'm not sure what I should do? Could Samsung give me another copy or am I just out of luck?

In worst case senario..you can reflash the phone with the rom dump thats in the Android Development section here...

gTen said:
In worst case senario..you can reflash the phone with the rom dump thats in the Android Development section here...
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Will that require root? I've rooted my old MyTouch so I'm not worried about that, but I don't think I'm quite ready to root this phone.

The rom dump that was posted by Wes doesn't include Avatar.

i was actually wondering where Avatar went, but thanks to this thread I know that's because it is on the SD card and not internal storage.

Funny, I accidentally deleted my copy of avatar as well. One of the first things I did was take a few test videos, to get a feel for the quality, and when I was going through removing them I clicked the wrong thing and avatar was gone.
No big deal though, I didn't really want to watch it for the fourth time anyway.

I accidentally deleted Avatar through camcorder app as well. There is no file info given and just a plain "broken" icon, so I deleted it. No warning from the OS either. Lame. T-mobile store would not replace the phone without a restocking fee (manager was a nightmare). I called Samsung and was told that since the movie is installed after-market on the external SD, there is nothing they can do to replace the file. So it is all on TMO to help anyone with this issue. TMO customer care does not have a direct link to a download and will not send a replacement SD. Finally I got the rep at the store to agree to swap my SD with the next Vibrant return that comes in. That's good enough for me. Avatar is waaaay to easy to inadvertently delete from the phone without warning. Be careful.

I HAD the same problem. I put the movie on a 16GB SDHD and the link broke, as in "File Not Found" The folder I put it in I called 'Movies' and it should have been 'Movie'. Once I took the s off of the folder name the link worked again.

rexrbgh said:
Something went horribly amiss while trying to transfer the movie from the preinstalled 2 gig to my 8 gig memory card. Although I was able to play the movie one time on my vibrant, the Avatar icon now says "File Not Found" when clicked. I cleared the 2 gig sd card before giving it away so now I'm left without a copy. Is there anyway I could procure a copy from a forum member or is the issue phone related?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Do you have AIM? PM me your AIM and I can send the file to you directly. It might take a while, but hey...at least you'll get it.
Funny how out of all the responses, no one even offered a solution.

iunlock said:
Do you have AIM? PM me your AIM and I can send the file to you directly. It might take a while, but hey...at least you'll get it.
Funny how out of all the responses, no one even offered a solution.
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The solution you offered Violates the DRM
He took the proper steps, TMO should have been able to help him

So is there no way to get it back if it was accidentally deleted? I contacted both Tmobile and Samsung and neither provided me any help. I'd really like the movie if someone could assist!

Thareal1 said:
So is there no way to get it back if it was accidentally deleted? I contacted both Tmobile and Samsung and neither provided me any help. I'd really like the movie if someone could assist!
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You could try to go a T-mobile store and see if they have any in returns (which might be hard I haven't had any returned yet) and see if they can swap out the 2gig card for you.

The problem being that each copy of the file is licensed to an individual phone - even if you get another copy, it may not play.

speoples20 said:
You could try to go a T-mobile store and see if they have any in returns (which might be hard I haven't had any returned yet) and see if they can swap out the 2gig card for you.
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I actually JUST left the store minutes ago...(bought a gel case...$16.99, lol)
He actually said they haven't had ANY returns, and they've sold about 70 phones which he was SURPRISED at...he said it's unlike any other phone he's sold(and that it's made him a few dollars this month.)
Any other options? or do I just wait for a return?

i accidentally deleted avatar too. but thankfully the tmo store by my job had a return. they swaped out the sd cards and it works. you may have to wait awhile for a return but atleast you'll get it back. the only other way i can think of is if you have the dvd you could rip the movie and put it on your phone.

khulsey said:
i accidentally deleted avatar too. but thankfully the tmo store by my job had a return. they swaped out the sd cards and it works.
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OK, well if this is true, I stand corrected: I guess the DRM isn't tied to an individual device.

You know what's funny? I deleted it on purpose. Don't get your panties in a bunch it's just a movie.
Sent from my SGH-T959

Same issue, movie just got deleted. This wan't an issue of the file being moved, it just vanished. Took it to local Tmobile store where they swapped my Vibrant with a new one. Employee said this has been happening with some frequency, files and apps just get deleted with no explaination. Happy with the new phone, GPS works 100x's better the previous one.

[Q] AmeriCanDroid

Ok... I have been a member for awhile, reading this and that...
I have been using WM based phones ever since i could remember (minus a small sidekick phase). So, when I found out that WM7 wasnt avail for my HD2... I was quite upset.
I decided to take the plunge and try Android for my SD card. W O W!!!!
Very fast, & functionable. I have stayed away for installing roms and such because of their instability. But this is absolutely beautiful.
Now i haven't updated to the new release that came out this morning, and was wondering if i should because i have been having some small issues.
1. When running WM6.5 since the install, i have had a problem with messages updating on main screen, don't know if it is related or not.
2. This was a fresh install of WM6.5 along with an SD card format. I am not allowed to store any info on card anymore. It's a 16g card, and I don't like to waste space. I no longer have a place for my tunes..... not cool. Not to mention can't store pics, and all the movies I burned via DVDFab.
3. Now I have read that there is a way to 'partition' my SD card, but there are so many ways to do this. I would like to do this with the best way/program so i dont fry my card. Link to the most stable way of doing this would be appreciated.
4. Now as impressed with AmeriCanAndriod as I am.. I have a question about the lockscreen... It is NOT about it's size/fullscreen as i have read on here... But when i walk away and it appearantly locks itself, it goes BLACK. the buttons on the device still light up, but screen will not activate and i have to end up pulling the battery. I have read that this is not advisable since shutting down is where the OS saves it's data to the SD card itself.
Yes, I am as green as it comes to this, but I am not a complete fool. I do try and look up issues pertaining to my problems. I can strip a PC down and rebuild it again in minutes, but phones are new to my tinkering. I love my HD2, and love all the things I have read I can do with it.
I understand that the forced close issue has been rectified in the build released this morning. Can this be confirmed????
Also will I be able to save the data.img and restore my apps and settings i have installed if I want to update to the new release?
Partitioning the SD... Will it cause me to reformat card and have to re-install Andoid on phone?
LASTLY..... Thank You to the AmeriCanAndroid Tean for making a beautiful OS that can easily be installed. Having a dual boot system is perfect for me. All the power and funtionabilty of WM & all the fun of Android. You couldn't ask for more. All the talent in this OS truly shows in this streamless, beautiful, user friendly system.
~Bdwlf2~

First off, this is not the place where to post. You should post in the builds own thread located here. Second i know that black screen happens to me as well but what i do is leave it for about 3 min on standby and its cleared up by then. Make sure to have the latest build from the thread mentioned above. And yes you will be able to keep the same data.img from the previous release unless specified. Partition yes you will format but simply drag and your Android folder to your desktop and once you're done drag it back in simple.

Thank You for the reply. I was going to post in the AmeriCanAndroid thread, but since this is my first post. I had a popup tell me I had to post HERE, instead of that thread until I reach 10 posts.
If a Moderator wishes to move this, I have no problems with that. I wanted to post where it was most relevant in the first place. I just want to be able to reply without the 'newbe' restrictions.
Relieved that I can save my things, by saving the data.img file.
Partitioning, would love a link to the best/safest method.
Blackscreen.. So I just hit a button and leave it for awhile? That's not very practical if I had a buisness call to make, or an emergency. Is there a workaround? Can I shut off the Auto Lock?
What folder do I add music, ringtones, movies and other goodies to? Can WM 7 Android share these same files? (as long as they're not OS specific obviously)

Ah, i see your reasoning, no problem. A good guide on partitioning that i used as well can be found here. And well there inst really a fix to the black screen problem and i haven't searched for one since it only happens on boot of Android. What seems to make it come back faster for me is locking and unlocking the phone quickly. And you can just place a folder and name it anything you want on the root of the SD card. Heck you can put all your mp3,photos,documents on the root of the SD card and Android will still pick them up, it doesn't matter. And when you say "Share" do you mean Bluetooth sending? Then yes, you can.

Nope... SD card will not let me install anything while i was hook to puter. I was running WM at the time, not android. That shouldn't have been a problem. I am about to hook SD card directly to copmuter itself and copy files that way.
I have had all music located on card before this install, nicely organized by artist or genre, along with my movies, pics, etc. But wont allow me to do this now. I am little confused about that, unless android locked SD/root to android application only. Since most programs that lock things usually prompt you for user allowances, which i did not see, i am ruling that out as an option. Phones and computers are very similar as i am finding out.
The blackscreen doesn't occur on Droid boot... It happens when it sleeps, hibernates, or whatever you call it. Can not wake it from this state.
The Data.img.... Do i put that in after i update and run android, or do i put it in the very begining when i copy droid folder to SD card?
Thanx
~Bdwlf2~

Yup, android put a 'write protect' on SD card. Trying some format tools now. Had to put a re-partiton on it to get rid of protection, which made it a Bad Disk. So trying a recovery on it now. I refuse to be beatin by an object smaller than my thumbnail. Arrrgh!

Android does not lock the SD card to application only, that's very odd that you cant copy files to the SD card. Maybe its a setting on your computer that wont allow you? And about the black screen problem, there seems to be no one reporting about that on the thread as far i can see. Are you running SetCPU or a Task Killer by any chance? Those make Android behave very odd. If not i would suggest downloading the latest build again and formatting your SD Card and putting Android on it again. You can also move your stuff your desktop and put it back again. About the Data.img, you don't really need to move it anywhere. When there is a new update to the build, i simply extract the contents of the new build to the Android folder on my SD card and over write. Simplest method I've seen yet.

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Yup, android put a 'write protect' on SD card. Trying some format tools now. Had to put a re-partiton on it to get rid of protection, which made it a Bad Disk. So trying a recovery on it now. I refuse to be beatin by an object smaller than my thumbnail. Arrrgh!
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That seems very odd. I've been using this build since February 24th and it has never locked up like that. But nonetheless you found a fix, good work.

No, not running any of those programs. I have extensively swapped data with this card numerous times.
I checked all setting in android prior to putting into puter. In therory, android should NOT write protect the disk, but something did. I have read this happening to others just in XDA forums alone.
Just got disk back to the "good" state using MiniTool Power Data Recovery... Let's take a peek as to see if it works correctly now.

Hmmmm... I think I should have used, repair damage partiton after recovery... still not working.
***scratches head***
I may need another cup of coffee for this.

How about a simple reformat?
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Nope. Tried that.
Windows formatter - no
SD formatter - no
Mini tool -nada
MyDefrag - not
Test disk - running now... pending

Try to reformat the SD from Windows Mobile?

Yup, first option....
Would go partially thru it, then stop. Worked fine yesterday. This starting to become un-nerving.
I will find a way. There is always a way. Unless something shorts/melts/breaks/ or fry's... there is always a way. Just a matter of correct knowedge and tool combination.

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Yup, first option....
Would go partially thru it, then stop. Worked fine yesterday. This starting to become un-nerving.
I will find a way. There is always a way. Unless something shorts/melts/breaks/ or fry's... there is always a way. Just a matter of correct knowedge and tool combination.
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Alright good luck.

Trying HDD Regenerator v2011
Seems to be doing something, using limited Demo mode. At least it is identifying the bad sectors.
This one is gonna take awhile. If it works, or i find something that does, I will post. I've read other's have had this problem, and I can save the person buying/tossing out cards.... Then the work is worth it.

57min into it and only scanned 11mb????? This may be a month to scan 16g. If my math is correct. That's 1gig (1000mb) / 11per hour = 90.90hrs to complete 1g of scanning, multiplied by 15 (usable gigs) = 1363.6363hrs or 51.81 days? 51 days to complete scan?!?!?!?! Gonna look for another program. Wow.
Good thing I have a small 2g card. Unfortunately it won't hold 1/2 of my music. Argh, and I just put a 2 HD movies on there.

If you want to partition or format your SD you HAVE to be in Windows Mobile.
Also, if you are repartitioning your SD, I recommend you recreate your data.img or else it will have issues.

I tried to format in WM... Fail. All the files reappeared.
I did notice .android_secure file. That wasn't there before.
I have unmounted, seems like it is remounting itself. I even unmounted and yanked battery immediately. No success.

Yes, Android still boots.... Something in there is locking card. If card was bad, Android would obviously not be booting.
I cant add or remove data from that card. I have tried several programs.
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Please Do Not ask if switch on adapted is locked, I have two adapters, both UNLOCKED... For some reason, my "Spidey Senses" are telling me that I am about to be asked that question. Being asked this will only cause me to "sigh" loudly before i bang my head on desk. Which will still leave me with locked card and now a fresh migrane.