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Hey guys i need some motivation here.
Im really starting to hate my G1, there really is nothing wrong with it, i just feel like im living in the stone age. Im stuck running 1.6 roms in general because they are the only ones that seem to work 100% and are actually fast and meet my standards.
However these days 1.6 is ancient technology, and the G1 cant seem to handle any improvement, anytime i try an eclair rom its slow as hell and has the lack of drivers so its all hackjobs trying to get everything to work right, the hardware is EXTREMELY outdated, even though its only a year+ old things have progressed massively since then.
It wouldnt suprise me if they discontinue the G1 in favor of the new Mytouch Slide as that would seem to be the natural progression of things, so then i was looking the other day at Verizon and here they are with the Droid Incredible with a spec sheet made of gold
Why should i keep my G1, honestly? Its crippled to 1.6 based roms if you want 100% full functionality, and if you want anything more then that you rely on hackjobs to get everything running right and sacrifice a good amount of speed, when you can just go buy a new phone that comes 100% out of the box with a 2.1 rom and it will run it great all day long with no issues and everything working.
What happens after 2.1? What happens when 2.2 or 2.4 or whatever comes after that?? Our G1s can barely handle 2.01 much less anything that may come after eclair, im just looking at my G1 like an ancient relic with outdated hardware and need some advice, to keep or to leave.
The G1 is an older phone with hardware that was decent when it was released, but has been surpassed by newer technology. That's all there is to it. It's still a good, fun phone.
You have to think of it as you think of any other technology though. Buy a high end computer and in a year it's equivalent to the lowest of the low. If you bought a Mustang GT a year ago, you'd probably be disappointed to see that it's similar to the new V6 Mustang's. The same goes with ALL phones. You should be glad that the phone's still getting love from developers and nearly all apps and games are compatible with it.
I don't need 2.0/2.1 or any future updates to keep me content with the phone. If I start hating it or feel an extreme need for something better by the time my upgrade comes around, I'm most likely going for another Android device. Maybe you should too if you're just not feeling the G1 anymore.
Super D is the fastest ROM I've used on the G1, by far. it's fast enough for my uses. If it's too slow for you, you need to upgrade. Me, I'm sticking with the G1 for a while, because the Nexus is too expensive, and nothing else appeals to me. Except an iPhone running Android ... but that one's still in progress ...
cyan has a 2.1 rom with hardware acceleration just around the corner. how does multiple google accounts, live wallpapers, fully working drivers and the usual cyan tweaks sound?
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whered you hear that from?
Joe92T said:
whered you hear that from?
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He mentioned it on twitter...
If all you want is a fast, mainstream phone ... get an iphone. The G1 is pure freedom from all the BS youll deal with using something else.
If you're at the point where you need someone else to convince you to stick with the G1, well, i think you have your answer already.
meh.
I have a G1 with a 1.6 rom that has Eclair bits in it. Maybe that's how you need to look at it: what parts of 2.1 is really important for you? Multitouch on browser, maps? Plenty of 1.6 roms have it. I personally have no problems staying with 1.6 since all the necessary items from 2.1 is already ported to the rom, so I'm not really missing out on all the good stuff.
The CSDI roms in all honesty have been very fast and stable. I know I'll keep my G1 for at least another year until Tmo gets some decent phones (N1 is nice, but I'm holding out.) When 2.2 comes out I'm sure the devs will port bits and pieces to the G1 and keeps us G1 owners happy.
If you're truly not liking it anymore, then I would go and get a different phone. There's nothing wrong with that.
You should keep the G1 because it is honestly the best overall device that I have used that has a keyboard. I switched from the G1 to the N1 and then to a BlackBerry because I realized how much I needed a keyboard for typing emails and whatnot. The G1 seems to offer everything that I wanted: Android, keyboard, touchscreen, and most of all, customization. The only major downside to the G1 for me was the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack. I would say the successor to the G1 would be the Droid, but it's not a GSM phone so I can't really use it.
sevuth said:
If all you want is a fast, mainstream phone ... get an iphone. The G1 is pure freedom from all the BS youll deal with using something else.
If you're at the point where you need someone else to convince you to stick with the G1, well, i think you have your answer already.
meh.
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You, get off the forum.
Yeah some secret eclair roms coming out with massive speed enhanced roms apparently. Just wait man, the future is near for us (eh no shet)
androidlicious said:
You should keep the G1 because it is honestly the best overall device that I have used that has a keyboard. I switched from the G1 to the N1 and then to a BlackBerry because I realized how much I needed a keyboard for typing emails and whatnot. The G1 seems to offer everything that I wanted: Android, keyboard, touchscreen, and most of all, customization. The only major downside to the G1 for me was the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack. I would say the successor to the G1 would be the Droid, but it's not a GSM phone so I can't really use it.
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There's a gsm version of the droid dude :\
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There's a gsm version of the droid dude :\
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I know... but last I checked the Milestone doesn't work on 3G for my carrier, but I'm not sure on that.
Showing my Newbness: What is the biggest hurdle to building froyo from source for the Incredible? How do HTC phones that came out at the same time and later have Froyo roms already and we have nothing? I don't get it. I started reading the developer guide to try and set my own kitchen up and get an understanding of how this works. Can anyone enlighten me as to how the Evo, Desire, Nokia, Atari 2600 and Nintendo DS (Last 2 are jokes) have froyo builds and we have nada??
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Showing my Newbness: What is the biggest hurdle to building froyo from source for the Incredible? How do HTC phones that came out at the same time and later have Froyo roms already and we have nothing? I don't get it. I started reading the developer guide to try and set my own kitchen up and get an understanding of how this works. Can anyone enlighten me as to how the Evo, Desire, Nokia, Atari 2600 and Nintendo DS (Last 2 are jokes) have froyo builds and we have nada??
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Not many dev's have our phone plus it was the last one rooted as well. It sucks but it'll come eventually.
I thought the Evo was the last. I guess I can understand the phone shortage. Thanks for the fast reply!
The EVO was immediately rooted and is FAR easier to root as well. We are the new kid.
The EVO was rooted before it was even released, due to the unrevoked1 team.
I helped a friend downgrade her moto, root it and upgrade to Froyo. Then she smoked me in the benchmarks.... This wait is painful!
Ok. Done whining now.
I tried to port the Froyo rom for the desire over, using the newb kitchen, it just caused a boot loop. I did a logcat and it seemed like it couldn't create any folders in the /data partition for some reason. Thank goodness for nandroid.
I guess that's why I'm a Network Engineer and a 39yr old college student, instead of a developer.
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I helped a friend downgrade her moto, root it and upgrade to Froyo. Then she smoked me in the benchmarks.... This wait is painful!
Ok. Done whining now.
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but in real life usage, not some benchmark, how did the moto feel speed wise...
personally i went from a moto to an incredible (back when the inc first came out) and even though I had my moto at 1.2ghz, the inc felt way smoother.
course I have yet to see froyo on a moto... i have one sitting in my desk drawer up at work, might should try throwing froyo on it just to see I guess...
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but in real life usage, not some benchmark, how did the moto feel speed wise...
personally i went from a moto to an incredible (back when the inc first came out) and even though I had my moto at 1.2ghz, the inc felt way smoother.
course I have yet to see froyo on a moto... i have one sitting in my desk drawer up at work, might should try throwing froyo on it just to see I guess...
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Dude! I gave her the kernel to put it back at its native speed of 800MHz (didn't want it getting hot on her) and that thing was fluent. The JIT compiler is UNREAL!! Have you seen the video where the Nexus smokes the Evo and Droid X, because it was running Froyo? That, and this [email protected] coffee, is why I'm so antsy about it!
I bought an Eris with the promise that I it would be updated to 2.1 from 1.5 within two weeks. Needless to say, I did not get the update for five months. So, I'm not holding my breath for Froyo to land on our phones anytime soon. Even when HTC completes the build for our phone, Verizon will take forever hacking it up so it works the way they want. For instance, I'm really sure they will leave that tethering option intact for us to use for free.
I wish I knew enough to compile it from source for us. I've compiled my own linux kernels before, but its easy to compile them for the machine you're working on. Compiling for HTC proprietary hardware is out of my league.
*sigh* I'll just have to be patient.
Welp
I have to believe that the rom developers are not sitting around waiting until the Xth request for FroYo comes in ... just so they can gauge demand
It will happen when it happens ... trust me, I am dying for FroYo --- I need bluetooth to trigger voice dial.
I didn't realize there was a kitchen for Android.
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I didn't realize there was a kitchen for Android.
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Yep:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
Installing it now.
jdmba said:
I have to believe that the rom developers are not sitting around waiting until the Xth request for FroYo comes in ... just so they can gauge demand
It will happen when it happens ... trust me, I am dying for FroYo --- I need bluetooth to trigger voice dial.
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I wasn't requesting it. I asked why every other device has it already; even one that was released after the incredible. And what was the big hurdle.
Hello all, I've been lurking on the forums waiting for my Aria to get delivered but couldn't help and register to post this bit of information.
dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=18897
Can't post links yet sorry, but from the looks of it, Aria's specs don't meet the requirements for Android 3.0. T_T
I know 2.2 hasn't been completely ported yet, but disappointing news nonetheless.
Hoping that information changes in the future.
I have faith that if it is physically possible the same good folks here who are working on getting us 2.2 will manage to get us 3.0 as well, I might be wrong but so far xda has only surprised me in good ways
So very true.
The devs here and at CyanogenMod will have Froyo working on the G1. I have no fear Gingerbread will be outstanding on the Aria due to their abilities and efforts.
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I personally would be extremely thankful for an OTA 2.2 update. Give me that and I'll be happy.
I'm happy with the way 2.1 looks and runs now, and when we get 2.2 I'll probably be even happier.
I don't think I will be craving some gingerbready goodness unless it has some really awesome features. And unless google pulls a miracle, I dont know how the interface can get any nicer than Sense.
And having both 2.2 and 3.0 on the market together is gonna cause some version fragmentation when it comes to apps.
My thought about Gingerbread is that many of the "wizbang features" seem to be processor hogs that'll chew battery life.
I'm not sure upgrading to Gingerbread on my Aria would be worth it. Plus, I actually like Sense and Android 3.0 will be Senseless.
A bit vague, but it it looks like the rumors may not be true (and 3.0 will come to sub-1ghz devices)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/01/android-teams-morrill-discounts-gingerbread-rumors/
Should I go with Incredible? I have an upgrade due in November and don't really know what to choose. The Droid X has that super awesome big screen, outdated GPU but 2 or 3 roms only. The Fascinated has a beautiful screen and awesome hardware, but no Froyo. The Droid Incredible has both outdated CPU and GPU, but awesome roms, which are TOO awesome . I don't what to do! Should I wait for the new Incredible HD which will probably have awesome roms due to similarities to the EVO or some other mysterious phone? Switching carriers is not an option.
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I would suggest going with the Incredible.
It is getting a lot of attention from developers so there is a growing list of ROMs, themes, mods, etc.
Also there is a Seidio 3500mah battery available, and pairing this phone with that battery is an unstoppable beast. Instead of battery life in the "hours" you can expect "days"
The screen is awesome, size is perfect even with 3500, and options are unlimited.
IMO, right now it is the best device on the market. Maybe not the most specced out package, but the overall combined package makes this a great phone.
Go for it
Well u know the answers u will get having ask this in the Droid incredible section. I have had the DInc, X, D2, and I now own a fascinate. and I will be keeping the fascinate until we get some LTE phones. The fascinate has far better screen and hardware. The CPU/GPU is far better than u will find in the x, and way better than u will find in the incredible. But I will say HTC makes software that is unbeatable out of the box. Up to u. Your call. Having almost of those phones u see what I have stuck with
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I suggest you get the Fascinate. In my opinion, it goes in this order: Fascinate, Incredible, Droid X. The hardware on the Fascinate is the best you will find, and unlike the Droid X, it isn't locked down, so you can mod it however you want. I'm also pretty sure there are Froyo roms for the Fascinate (if that was the only thing keeping you away from it).
There's no Froyo roms on the Fascinate (hopefully that will change with the release of the Galaxy Tab). I think the Fascinate is first, second is Droid X, next is Droid INC in my book now. But we'll see what happens before my upgrade. Thanks guys for the tips!
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If you want an incredible I would just wait for the incredible hd.
Its going to have a front facing camera..if anything I would wait till the begining of next year..phones will have dual core by then
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I love the sexiness of the incredible that's what sold me because if you don't find it fast enough out of the box then overclock its not the same as having the better hardware out of the box but if you want something sleek and sexy that will fit in your pocket the incredible is the best
Sent from my HTC Droid Incredible. This Droid Does More.
i'd also wait till the end of the year...
fascinate is nice but it's really not that much of an upgrade over the DInc. I personally would rather have the DInc over it.
The first problem with the fascinate is the LAG issue. there is a "fix" though but hopefully it's officially fixed through froyo.
by the time the fascinate starts seeing ROMs will probably be the same time the next batch of super androids will be coming out. the fascinate will not see many ROMs until froyo hits it.... not many devs want to waste there time on a outdated 2.1
the major problem i found with the fascinate is 2GB of internal memory....... i mean really? i enjoy the fact that i dont HAVE to install apps2sd with the incredible. I don't think i ever will honestly. I see no benefit, especially with titanium backup.
Anyways.. it's also "binged" out. i personally don't support that.
i just got an incredible, today actually and just got done flashing a new rom with evo framework. It's really cool that you can in essence have an evo, minus a few hardware differences. I upgraded from my vogue, and this is a night and day difference. It's really a solid phone, great to use, and has some really impressive features. All around its a great phone for usability.
Get an incredible, a free one from Best Buy. The Dinc is free on 10/29/2010.
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There's no Froyo roms on the Fascinate (hopefully that will change with the release of the Galaxy Tab). I think the Fascinate is first, second is Droid X, next is Droid INC in my book now. But we'll see what happens before my upgrade. Thanks guys for the tips!
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Unless you specifically want a huge screen, I say stay away from the Droid X. 3 of my friends have it and it doesn't feel nearly as smooth as the Incredible. Not to mention, the Inc has Sense (which imo is much better than stock Android) but you always have the option to flash a stock Android ROM if you prefer. I suggest you wait till November 2nd to see what Samsung is about to announce. I think it's going to be the Continuum, but some (ignorant) people think it's going to be the Nexus 2.
Since you are up in November, maybe you can get the Incredible HD...assuming the rumors are true.
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/2010/10/26/...-launching-november-23rd-at-verizon-wireless/
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Since you are up in November, maybe you can get the Incredible HD...assuming the rumors are true.
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/2010/10/26/...-launching-november-23rd-at-verizon-wireless/
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If this is true, THIS would be my choice over the Fascinate. Latest Generation Snapdragon with the new PowerSGX540 (same one in the Galaxy S) with 4.3 inch screen and front-facing camera(although unecessary) with HTC Sense and Kickstand? I really hope that this will come out either before my upgrade or in the 30 day period after my upgrade.
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If this is true, THIS would be my choice over the Fascinate. Latest Generation Snapdragon with the new PowerSGX540 (same one in the Galaxy S) with 4.3 inch screen and front-facing camera(although unecessary) with HTC Sense and Kickstand? I really hope that this will come out either before my upgrade or in the 30 day period after my upgrade.
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I have a year to go, but this would totally be my next phone. I am going to find a way to get it through my company so I can get it at the new activation price of (hopefully) $199 and still keep my Incredible SD.
Hopefully the timing works for you!
Go with Dinc for great root support.
Go with DincHD for awesomeness and good chances of root support
I know this question has been asked before but I have to ask again. It's been a while since I've been here, I had moved on to the the Evo but I had a accident at work and I'm waiting for Assurion to send me my replacement. So I had to dust off my old Hero in the meantime, but I'm having trouble finding a stable, daily Froyo ROM. All of the ones I have found seem to have something wrong. i.e. Camera, Wifi, GPS... Can anybody suggest a good Froyo ROM with everything working. I know Froyo had to get ported over because the Hero never got the update but it's been over a year since Froyo. I figured by now somebody would have cooked up something. Hopefully a Sense based ROM (never cared for ASOP) but I'll take any functional Froyo ROM at this moment. I'm pulling my hair out over here. After coming back from the Evo & Epic it's hard to believe that the Hero was once one the best Android phone around. Technology moves soooooo fast!
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I know this question has been asked before but I have to ask again. It's been a while since I've been here, I had moved on to the the Evo but I had a accident at work and I'm waiting for Assurion to send me my replacement. So I had to dust off my old Hero in the meantime, but I'm having trouble finding a stable, daily Froyo ROM. All of the ones I have found seem to have something wrong. i.e. Camera, Wifi, GPS... Can anybody suggest a good Froyo ROM with everything working. I know Froyo had to get ported over because the Hero never got the update but it's been over a year since Froyo. I figured by now somebody would have cooked up something. Hopefully a Sense based ROM (never cared for ASOP) but I'll take any functional Froyo ROM at this moment. I'm pulling my hair out over here. After coming back from the Evo & Epic it's hard to believe that the Hero was once one the best Android phone around. Technology moves soooooo fast!
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i dont think its too hard to believe that the hero is one of the best android phones around.. yes she is a little dated, and she has some problems (99 problems but a dead hero aint one) but she is still rock solid.. and we have gingerbread now (thanks to some of the greatest devs around), so thats probably why you dont see a lot about froyo, froyo was cool for all of a couple months and then we moved on to the gingery goodness.. there are some sense based roms out there, both froyo and gingerbread, but i think they all have their weaknesses due to HTC not giving out the proprietary drivers for things like camera and what not.. so if you are wanting something that is totally stable, it will more than likely have to be aosp (but if you only have the hero for a couple days who cares).. but there are a few stable gingerbread aosp roms out there, i would check those out, i post no links because they are all on the forefront of our development section.. good luck with your hero though.. just treat her with the respect she deserves..
AOSP's rom was pretty stable but I found it hard on the battery CyanogenMod 6.1 or whatever it was had everything working too and the battery was much better for me. The only issue with CM was a random reboot every once in a while which was usually solved by changing the vm heap size to something larger.
Thanks fellas! Don't get me wrong, I loved my Hero. It was my first Android phone and started my love affair with Android. I've always loved HTC. But coming back after having the Evo and Epic for almost a year, it feels so inadequate. Gonna give a Ginger ROM a try and see if I get any better performance. Thanks again.
My favorite pre-gingerbread roms are zenexp 0.9.7 and aosp 0.9.9.2. Both of them are fast and stable. Zenexp is 2.1 though but is just as good if not better than any rom I've used.
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