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This could actually help others for I have read many threads and still don't have a clear HOW TO.
The Thread are for Elfs....from reading threads I GUESS I have an Elf(in)....My Box Reads:
HTC Touch [ROM: 256MB; SDRAM: 128MB DDR]
This is a Rogers branded Touch, grayish color. OS is Windows 6 Professional.
Now I have done some registry hacks, shut off animation and sounds (from TouchFlo too) and the Touch is far better than before, but I still find it somewhat laggy, when flipping through apps, eventhough I have the Task Manager off.
After reading many threads I have two routes that I would like help with:
- Being an Avid Palm programmer, who've done it all, including bricking one (lol), I know for a fact that a fresh, light ROM improves performance and makes the unit much zippier. So which ROM would be the best for me? There are so many around and i dunno which is best for my unit.
- Second, Should I just do the Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade, and ride off into the sunset? will it make the unit much better than a custom ROM (i doubt it)...atleast the question is out here.
Lastly, I mainly use the Touch for checking emails, browsing on Wi-fi as well as my network providers'. I use the mobile office a lot, and the messenger as well. For internet browsing I use Netfront, but hope to compare it to the new IE. My aftermarket apps are: SPB Mobile Shell 2.0, Pocket CM, PCM Keyboard, SIP Change, and Advanced Config.
Hope this helps the more experienced members lend me a hand.
Cheers,
Paul
yes!! you should do a rom upfgrade my advice for you is to go with the swiftblades vblue elves rom on the upgrading thread on this great site its very easy for new comers to update their rom using this rom ...its a custom wm6.1 rom ~ so you can ride off into the sunset in style~ and yea 6.1 is alot better than 6,0 its got a threaded sms and it fixes the memory leak...
oh and if you have just post a reply on the forum you got the rom froum usually swiftblade himself will help who ever is having trouble and if he doesnt theres alot of other xda brothers and sisters that will help assist you were like a family here dont be affraid to ask questions theres no stupid questions just stupid people!!!! oh and stupid answers!! ~
and here you go i will help you out with the rom updating process it is very simple but worry some... the reason im saying use blue elves is because it has a cid unlocker built into the package... and it has very clear instructions!!!
FOR FIRST TIME CUSTOM ROM UPGRADERS:
1. Copy the Cert_SPCS.CAB and EnableRapi.CAB from the zip folder to your device's Storage Card.(###*** you dont have to do this step if you have allready used the sim unlocker program!!***###)
2. Install the two cabs to your Device memory and do a soft reset.
3. Restart your PC or laptop (Optional)
USING THE INTEGRATED ROM UPDATE UTILITY WITH USPL CID UNLOCKER:
(ATTENTION: REMOVE YOUR 4GB, 6GB or 8GB mircoSDHC CARD WHEN FLASHING THIS ROM!)
1. Turn off your computer's Anti-Virus software if you can. ( not nescary )
2. Activesync your device to your PC using USB port.
3. When the connection is completed (after synchronisation), double-click on [START] batch file to begin the integrated ROM Updating Utility.
4. Now follow closely the instructions that appear on the computer screen.
5. Press [ENTER] to accept at each prompt to continue the process.
6. After Step 2/3 of USPL CID Unlocker, the device screen will turns "blank white" and your activesync icon gray (in Windows XP only).
Congratulations! You have successfully CID unlocked your device. Press [ENTER] to proceed NOW!
(NB: If you failed to see the "blank white" screen, then your CID unlocking has failed.
Restart your installation process from Step No.1)
(####**** now dont panic if you dont get the white screen just soft reset your device sticking the tip of your styulus in the hole to the right of the usb port... then you may get the tri color loader dont panic just soft reset again then you may get a screen that will prompt you on a few things ###***your screen will not respond.... this is when you remember you have HARD KEYS!!!!! youll need to use them in this if you get it***### dont panic yet just continue pmce your started again set up active sync and start your process all over again!!! your phone shouldnt be bricked
7. Your device will now proceed to update your rom. Select and hit [NEXT] at each prompt to continue.
8. When the rom updating is completed at 100%, your device will restart automatically.
9. Congratz! You have successfully upgraded to a new rom.
Enjoy & Lots of Have Fun!
(((####****and remember this is why you DIDNT BUY AN IPHONE!!! ****####)))
Thank you very much Bereda, and thanks for such a warm welcome. My next question is....which of all the ROMS is the one that I want? I see several versions and only one says Touch on it, the rest say Elf, Elf(in), etc. Mine on the box says Touch, but in here it seems that the Elf is also the Touch, a bit confused...
Cheers,
Paul
i also recomand this rom.
I will go ahead and give it a go, as soon as I know which is the best ROM for my Equipment.
Thanks OmerS,
Paul
Beginner
I have no idea what I am doing. LOL. Why would I do a Rom upgrade??? And secondly where can I upgrade to WM 6.1. I have the HTC Touch..Please help!!!
AfflictedSatisfaction5, Welcome to the Club. A clean ROM eliminates many apps that one rarely uses, that consumes memory and normally are replaced by other third party apps. In General, a modified ROM runs quicker and better than the OE ROM.
You can find the WM 6.1 upgrade on the Microsoft Windows Mobile Site and take it from there OR Get a custom ROM with WM 6.1 already there.
I am just waiting to see which ROM is the one for my phone, since there are several variants of internal ROM memory (64, 128, 256, etc).
Cheers,
Paul
If you have a Rogers branded HTC Touch, BEFORE you do anything, try to dump your ROM. (Read around, you'll find how to do it). The community, including myself, been struggling with this for months. Thanks.
Evilmonkey...will search for ROM dumping...by the way, it IS a Rogers Branded HTC....BUT...my phone will not be used for Rogers network, but for a latin american company called Viva.
Cheers,
Paul
after u dump backup ur current rom.. i suggest u make up ur mind what u want for instance, there are many many variants of touch roms around here ranging from bare naked clean bases to fat boy mem hogging bloated ones.. u can check my thread for a clean base rom or try kokotas's new rom (its fresh) blue elves and shadow ce takes the cake like always
happy flashing
i didn't dump my rom and i have a rogers htc touch aka htc elfin... not elf so paul you have a elfin... and trust me stick with the custom roms theres no need to dump your rom due to the fact that theres like 20 of the "rogers" rom on here already just download a copy of it and your set... thats if you want to step backwards and go back to stock...if you get a stripped down rom from the windows mobile website you loose out on all the features that make this phone a touch and a iphone killer... i think its wrong to take out the cube and other programs that are made for the touch! these programs are why you bought a touch in the first place... its like buying a Lamborghini and taking the five speed and the v12 out of the car and replacing it with a automatic transmission and putting in a little 1.8 litter v4... like what would be the point of buying a Lamborghini if your going to make it just like all the other economy cars... plus you could have saved your self a ton of time and just bought a 318i bmw... and for the people that do strip it down to nothing, why didnt you just buy the htc p3300 plain and simple htc ppc like all the rest.
bereda said:
i think its wrong to take out the cube and other programs that are made for the touch! these programs are why you bought a touch in the first place
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instead of making judgements, i suggest you read the specifications and reasons mentioned by the great rom builders of xda in their threads why they have striped down their roms. people may buy touch so they can get a faster 201mhz device at economy prices
its like buying a Lamborghini and taking the five speed and the v12 out of the car and replacing it with a automatic transmission and putting in a little 1.8 litter v4... like what would be the point of buying a Lamborghini if your going to make it just like all the other economy cars... plus you could have saved your self a ton of time and just bought a 318i bmw
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i dont know anything in detail about cars but i'll still add my 2 cents. its more like buying a lamborghini and heavily tweaking it by stripping the parts and adding some, removing some and building a entirely new car out of that to suite each one's individual likes and dislikes. having done that you get a personalised car designed by your own hands and will n wish
for the people that do strip it down to nothing, why didnt you just buy the htc p3300 plain and simple htc ppc like all the rest
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two words for that one "MORE SPEED" i suggest you take a look at this http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=619&id2=947 and you'll find the answer why we dont buy p3300 against a touch. its good to retain the looks of the touch and have more speed like dual and more options for functionality as per our likes n dislikes
hope paul finds what he is looking out for. i personally dont advice and support picking up a rom from an expert and editing it to your tune. either use it as is or build your own rom happy cooking or flashing
Ha ha ha ha ha, thanks Bereda and thanks Ababrekar, and please...be nice
Bereda: Thanks for the explanation NOW i know my is an "ELFin", LOL, only knew it as a Touch. Thanks also for the tip...so I shouldn't dump it, i don't have a lot of things on my phone....3 weeks old so..... the personal data or course is backed up.
Ababrekar: Thanks for the encouragement pal... Like Bereda said, I'd like the HTC pack that is offered on the Blue Elves ROM, plus if you read my initial post.. most of the apps i used (SIP Change, PCM keyboard,etc) are already in that ROM so....
I take it this is the ROM I want....right? :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364901
Can never be too sure...
Thanks for taking the time.
bereda said:
i didn't dump my rom and i have a rogers htc touch aka htc elfin... not elf so paul you have a elfin... and trust me stick with the custom roms theres no need to dump your rom due to the fact that theres like 20 of the "rogers" rom on here already just download a copy of it and your set... thats if you want to step backwards and go back to stock...
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Can you please point me to at least one? Also, it's a "step backward" for warranty and de-bricking purposes.
Paul, it's okay that its from Latin America, as long as the phone says rogers. Thanks.
evilmonkey1987... umm im not sure but i think that flashing will void warentee iwith any rom even plain wm6.1 because the elf and the elfin and the voque(sprint version of elfin) are all standerd
wm6.0 but heres the good part you can allways flash back for warntee purposes say you need to send it back and they cant
tell at all hehehehe!!! its a sneaky move but its well worth it!!!
sorry i thought you ment point you to a plain wm6.1 hahaha sorry ill find one
PAUL... yea thats it had it when i first flashed to wm6.1 and loved it but make sure you flash a radio with it!!!!!! its very simple to do ... heres the radio link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342265
and
heres a little step by step
1. connect using active sync (after youv flashed the new rom of course )
2.remove sim and sd card
3. locate elf uspl and open it it will bring you to a dos screen *(windows command screen)*
4.press enter continue until you get to step 2/3 press enter then your elfs screen will turn white just like when your flashing the rom then !!!!!!STOPPPP!!!!!!! do not continue to press enter make sure your screen is white!!!!
(####****if your screen doesnt turn white start proicess again****###)
5. open up the radio folder while still keeping the dos screen up
6. youll find a operation call ruu which stands for rom update utility start that
7. follow the on screen steps and it will work fine
8 enjoy
*****#### in bothe the uspl unlocker and in the start batch file it will say elf... dont panic you have the RIGHT!!! FILE AND OPERATION....####****
Will do it tonight, btw.....STUPID QUESTION NO.1:
What is a Radio?
the radio is what is used to get your calls its what gives you your signal and there are every now and then a update for the phones which will either give you more signal or better call quality
Thanks for asking these questions, I had the same ones in my head
Installation Froze. I am on step 2, 75%...Touch/Elfin Reads:
Welcome to Haret
VRAM ADDR: 0X200001020
CREATING PRELOADER 1:1 MAPPING.
PREJUMPER IS AT 0X17EF40000
JUMPING TO SYSTEM MODE...
LOADING SPL TO RAM....
waited 10 minutes, nothing has happened. I removed the USB cable
the program on my screen stated that the Touch should have a white screen, if not, to repeat steps. SHould I restart/reset the Touch?
Help needed, I'll wait a while see if I get a response from one of you
Removed Battery, Restarted Phone, everything seems as before i did anything....gonna re-try the ROM upgrade from Step 1.
Restarting Computer....
UPS just dropped off my new phone...and i'm excited!
However, i don't know wtf i'm doing So, I turn to you for help. I'd like to get this thing up and rockin' like today so hopefully all this goes smoothly.
1. How do i get Touchflo 2D installed(or any programs/mods for that matter?)
2. Necessary updates? What do i need?
3. WM 6.1(or current version)? Where do i get it and how do i install it?
4. Any tips? Ideas? "You should know's..."?
We'll start with that. I'm pretty sure i'll be a regular 'round these here pert's
Thanks in advance!
alright...so after enough research to figure things out i've gotten this far...
1. Done
2. got all v18 Manilla updates, anything else I need/shoudl get?
3. I noticed the default ROM is a bit sluggish, and have read a bit about thsi one -> "nueROM 3 6152-3pre3"...thoughts? where do i get it?
4. refer to #4 above
My NEW question is...Is there a way i can write up my contacts list from my old phone on my computer(faster typing) and import it?
oh yeah, and im having a hell of a time trying to change a manilla skin...how is that done? It says to place the contents of the folder in the windows directory, but that doesn't work.
Nuerom 3 is available at Nuerom.com
Nuerom 3 is available at Nuerom.com. You need to donate to get an account, just donate a buck.
also, being new to this...
what is "cooked ROM" ?
"cooked" refers to a ROM that has been assembled by people other than the original providers of the phone. I think 'hacked' is probably a more technically accurate term, but cooked sounds better.
The nueROM is a cooked ROM. DCD is another common ROM type as well.
Here: http://ppc.stoleyour.net/xv6800/ is a great tutorial on how to flash the latest DCD rom. This is the one I'm using. Very stable. I've heard promising things from the nueROM 3, but I'm not quite prepared to change over to that... mostly because I'm not looking forward to having re-install/configure my device.
I do have a question though, Did you get this phone in mind for SPRINT?, Because it was an offly awful time to get it, because the HTC Touch Pro is coming out on the 18th of this month (October)
And even if you werent seeking this phone for sprint, im pretty confident that some ROM Chef out there would be willing to make roms and carrie CABS for specified CDMA Networks.
Well goodluck with ur mogul, as im not having much with mine, im terribly regretting the fact i got it only because of its incredibly crippled RAM. Well have a good day
I think the latest DCD ROM is more stable and more free RAM available after the install. Also the kitchen is available and plenty of OEMs to put in the kitchen to cook into the ROM. There is a WiKi link in the sticky notes and how to upgrade your phone to the latest. I have been using the Titan (Verizon VX6800) for almost a year and love it. I don't think that the HTC Touch Pro is going to give you anything more than what you get with a Titan except maybe more memory to run apps. They have already got the interface working on the Titan (Manilla 2d) and are working on the Manilla 3d as well. I prefer the SPB Mobile Shell myself. More info on the Now screen for me to see email and calendar, plus the contacts screen is much better for either calling or texting.
Keep looking through this forum and the Titan Upgrading forum for all kinds of info and apps.
To be completely honest. I'm a little pissed at the moment about this phone. Keep in mind im a noob.
1. My texts' don't say the contacts name on them even after saving the name, just the number shows up. I failed math 3 times in a row in college so i don't do numbers (and im a flash developer...go figure)
2. SLLLOOOOOWWWWWW...this thing CRAWLS, at least with the original ROM. Whats the latest and greatest ROM out there?
3. Half of my SH*T isn't working right, granted i'm using all of this modded stuff, but even still...no internet, phone buttons are dumb, landscape isn't working right...
4. i apologize, i know there are more people out there that like this phone than don't like it...i'm just venting over the frustration of learning a new piece of software/hardware...
and also...i'd like to get some of this taken care of before i get too far into saving names, etc. in thsi thing and have them magically erase cause of a crash lol
Wrong but right.
jambrose said:
I think the latest DCD ROM is more stable and more free RAM available after the install. Also the kitchen is available and plenty of OEMs to put in the kitchen to cook into the ROM. There is a WiKi link in the sticky notes and how to upgrade your phone to the latest. I have been using the Titan (Verizon VX6800) for almost a year and love it. I don't think that the HTC Touch Pro is going to give you anything more than what you get with a Titan except maybe more memory to run apps. They have already got the interface working on the Titan (Manilla 2d) and are working on the Manilla 3d as well. I prefer the SPB Mobile Shell myself. More info on the Now screen for me to see email and calendar, plus the contacts screen is much better for either calling or texting.
Keep looking through this forum and the Titan Upgrading forum for all kinds of info and apps.
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You are quite wrong.... The Nue-rom 3 has MUCH more free mem upon boot. Nearly 27 megs. I find Nuerom MUCH faster.
I was given an SPV M3100 with a cracked screen, bought a new one off eBay for just of €20, fitted it, fired it up and everything works !!
I removed the Operator SIM lock and CID lock so I can use my VodaIE sim (was previously locked to OrangeUK)
According to the "About" screen it says the following
CE OS 5.1.195 (build 17743.2.3.0)
Memory 48.93mb
The splash screen after the initial Orange screen says "3.0 Black windows mobile pro"
Does this mean it's been flashed with a new rom ?
I'd like to flash it with a rom that needs the minimum of stylus use for navigation (fingers like sausages), what would be the best for this ?
Looks like its been flashed before, BUT, thats a fairly old rom. It might be an idea to check your SPL, if its not 2.10 oli then its not the safest. Go to the Hard SPL sticky in the Upgrading part of the forum to download Hard SPL V7. Install this (go to page 116, post 1160 for the sd card method - this can be used to flash roms to, just drop the steps using SSPL.exe(soft SPL) as you now have Hard SPL on your device). This will give better protection for when you flash your Hermes.
As for the rom, unfortunately these devices aren't like the Iphone where its all geared for the fingers. You will need to use a stylus in every rom. So saying, look in the WM06 part of the forum, you might like to use the Manilla or Titanium roms. Please note however that these may cut down on the storage memory. Also, read a bit about the rom as the chefs generally tell you whats in the roms. If you want specific things either look for a rom thats closest to that or use a lite rom and add the apps yourself.
I tend to opt for the Lite roms myself as I then pack the phone with a concoction of apps to my liking and I don't really like Manilla or Titanium. Everyone's different and whats good for one may not be good for all.
Hope that helped...
Cheers...
iPhone ?!?!?! go give yourself 20 lashes for even mentioning it !
I'm running a Hackintosh, although I still have to boot into XP to do bit's and bob's though.
The Manilla and Titanium roms seem to be more what I was lokking for, it's really the basic functions and navigation that needs to be "fat finger freindly", the main use is really going to be just as a phone, so calls and texts
I know, I don't like the Iphone either, but it is more finger friendly than our devices...
You may need to install a custom onscreen keyboard if you want to have that more finger friendly but remember, the more space used up by the keyboard, the less space to see what you're writing. At the moment I'm using Darkvisions (the latest build) and it has a pretty good onscreen keyboard. It does have a lot of other apps too though. Look for the Lite versions of the Roms, that should give you plenty of internal memory (though depending on what apps are loaded in you may not have the biggest amount of RAM).
Cheers...
I ended up settling for TAI's Golden Globe Manilla 2D in the end, played around with Scotty93's S93 V4 and MrDSL's Titanium light as well, I'll have a bit more of a play around later as I was started to get disapproving stares from the wife
Hi all,
Newbie here
EX iPhone 3g user now HD user
I would like to ask, is it possible to change the People Tab on the HD to one like on the Touch Pro2 as an example.
I would prefer to have squares of faces than the flip faces that there are now.
all the best...
Any help is appreciated.
chill.
If I understand you correctly, you are referring to the difference in Contact tabs between Manila 2.1 (also known as HTC's TouchFlo 3D), and Manila 2.5 (known as HTC Sense), which will come out on the new HTC devices such as the Leo (also known as the Touch HD2).
As far as I know, the only way to use the new interface is to flash a ROM that has Manila 2.5.
I currently use Dutty's Leo R6 with WM6.5 and Manila 2.5. I really like it.
You can find it here. You'll have to register to be able to download it.
BTW - Welcome to the forum!!!!!!
Thanks Chris Cross,
This is what I am looking for.
Hope I have explained it right.
Not sure what Manilla 2.1 or 2.5 are, but thanks.
If I was to install the Dutty rom, would I loose any features ? Could I return to Original rom if I needed ?
Sorry for too many questions..
chill....
Yes, that is a picture of Manila 2.5.
Okay, I'll explain what Manila is.
Windows Mobile phones have a generic windows interface. HTC came up with their own layout and called it Manila. The more common name was TouchFlo. First was TouchFlo 2D, then came TouchFlo 3D, and now the new one is called HTC Sense (I guess they wanted to change the name now. ). In terms of your phone, you will see that the name Manila is still used (for example in registry settings etc.).
So, when you start your phone, it automatically goes into the Manila layout from HTC. In other words, the whole concept of having the slider at the bottom which takes you to the different tabs (and each of their sub-menus) etc.. is the Manila interface. Other Windows Mobile phones that are not from HTC don't have that (unless they have tried to copy the concept).
So, Manila version 2.1 (=TouchFlo 3D) had a Contacts tab with the little slider on the right, to switch between contacts (or you could flip through them too). Now, Manila 2.5 (which ships with the new HTC phones) changed that layout to look like what you are referring to - i.e. the big square pictures. You see 9 right away, and if you flip up, then 6 more appear for a total of 15. That is just one of the layout changes that are new in Manila 2.5. You will also see a new change in the Home tab, where below the clock, you now have Quick Links. They also look like squares and you can link them to a contact or a program for quick access directly from the home tab. Like I said, there are several new changes like that in Manila 2.5
I'll leave it at that for now. I need to stop for a second, but I'll come back to this same post and give you some info on flashing a new rom.
EDIT: see post below for info on flashing roms
chill today said:
.... If I was to install the Dutty rom, would I loose any features ? Could I return to Original rom if I needed ?....
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Flashing a new rom means that you will completely erase the entire drive on the phone and you will install a brand new system. So... yes, you will lose everything that is in the internal storage (but not in the SD card).
You can go back to the rom your phone came with (referred to as a "stock" rom). To do that, you would have to flash (= install) the stock rom, and once again, you would lose everything you have at that point and you would end up with your phone as it came out of the box.
There is also backup software you can buy to backup all your programs, files etc.. in case you ever flash the stock rom again and you want things the way they are today. As far as I know, you cannot (or at least - should not) use that backup file on a rom other than the one that was installed when the backup file was created.
I have had my HD for 11 months. I flashed a new rom for the first time about 2 weeks after buying my HD. I think it is totally worth it. There are a lot of rom cooks out there that do a great job at making solid, stable roms. Dutty is definitely among the most well known and respected for the quality of work he does. He tries to keep his roms as close to stock as possible, but he makes changes that improve the speed and overall user-friendliness of the rom.
You do have to keep in mind, that if you flash a new rom with Manila 2.5 and Windows Mobile 6.5, some things might not work 100% right away because those are new releases. Dutty is constantly updating his rom to fix any known issues. Whenever an update is made, you flash that updated rom - and once again it means you lose your settings. But, the benefits of having a nicer rom outweigh the cons of having to set up your phone as you like it again. Eventually, the rom becomes really stable and you can go months without needing to flash anything.
If you are interested in flashing Dutty's new rom, let me know and I can give you links that explain how to do that.
All sounds very interesting. I'll chew on this a little.
Its not like I am unhappy with the HD, but just the People tab is a little frustrating to use.
I'll have a good look over at the roms section, and if I do give it a shot, I'll be knocking
I have flashed a HTC Touch before. A bit scary doing it, but went OK in the end.
The phone was freezing up, and was out of warrenty, so nowt to lose.
If its a similar process, then not to scary after all.
thanks
chill......
Yeah, it's the same thing. It's not too scary, but you just have to make sure you read about how to do it the first time, so that you don't make big mistakes. Technically, you could turn your phone into a brick (i.e. permanently dead), but that's really only if you somehow cut power to the phone during the process (e.g. if you unplug the cord or start with a low battery). If you just follow the steps - you'll be fine, and it will take about 10 minutes of actual flashing time. Once you have done it, you realize it is no big deal.
Check out the ROM threads - especially this tutorial!!! Depending on what type of ROM you have right now, you might need to do extra steps before flashing a newer version ROM. It is all explained in that tutorial. And Dutty's latest Leo R6 ROM can be found here. You can follow any developments or bug reports and fixes etc. regarding Dutty's Leo ROM in this thread.
Also, you might want to look and see if your stock ROM is available for download (in case you later want to go back to it - but I doubt you will). You can also go back to other stock ROMs if you want.
Just ask if you have questions.
Thanks a lot.
I've only been here 5 minutes and all this help. Nice place here.
There are Lots of Roms, so would need to chose carefully. I have been trying SPB Mobile Shell, which is quite nice. Not a full replacement rom, but a nice touch.
Thanks again, I will read on.
chill.......
Seems my question has been asked before.Contacts
Any freeware versions of a program similar.
chill......
chill today said:
Seems my question has been asked before.Contacts
Any freeware versions of a program similar.
chill......
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Since I've never used one, I am not too familiar with freeware for it. But, I did find this website. Their program "Avatar" might be what you are looking for. The author also has a thread for Avatar on XDA Forums. It definitely seems worth the try.
Thanks again Chris Cross,
I will try them today, cheers for the link.
chill......
I am a MOD at a blackberry hybrid site where I used to build hybrid operating systems for blackberry devices. This winmo stuff is like "greek" to me. I don't see a point in a custom ROM here for anything more than looks and a few tweaks that I can do on my own.
Are there leaks with ROMs frequently like there is with blackberry?
Would you suggest a Droid ROM or winmo? and why?
Droid ROMs can be fully loaded to a winmo device correct? Why not if you wipe the device and reload it?
Lastly, I constantly am getting the user name and password pop up for my yahoo email, but I keep entering it and clicking save but it never does.Why?
I forgot to mention that I have switched and now have the HTC HD2 and love it!
Cant really beat the HD2 IMO
anyway,
People cook their own ROM's for there needs, jazz them up a bit make them look pretty, update to the latest versions of the software and apps, take apps out to save space so you can install on the sd card, cooked ROM's are more stable faster, look better, check out the ROM thread once you flash you'll never go back stock.
Droid or Winmo, lol you got no choice mate!! (on the hd2 anyway)
email, I set mine up with .co.uk instead of .com once and it for ever asked me for user-name and password till i twigged on.
Demon_man said:
Cant really beat the HD2 IMO
anyway,
People cook their own ROM's for there needs, jazz them up a bit make them look pretty, update to the latest versions of the software and apps, take apps out to save space so you can install on the sd card, cooked ROM's are more stable faster, look better, check out the ROM thread once you flash you'll never go back stock.
Droid or Winmo, lol you got no choice mate!! (on the hd2 anyway)
email, I set mine up with .co.uk instead of .com once and it for ever asked me for user-name and password till i twigged on.
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Ok, so nothing like building a Blackberry OS. I meshed and played with 1300 files to make a faster smoother operating system. Looks had nothing to do with it. I see that I will stay stock. I can delete my own apps and tweak my own reg files.
Thanks
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I meshed and played with 1300 files to make a faster smoother operating system.
Thanks
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Thats exactly what ROM-Cooking for WinMo is about as well (apart from the tweaking and optical stuff). And besides that, the cooks often have builds of SoftwareElements that havent been released yet.
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People cook their own ROM's for there needs, jazz them up a bit make them look pretty, update to the latest versions of the software and apps, take apps out to save space so you can install on the sd card, cooked ROM's are more stable faster, look better, check out the ROM thread once you flash you'll never go back stock.
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Amen to that.
I've had my HD2 for about 6 months now and it is my first WM device, when I first got it I thought the same as you, couldnt see what all the fuss was about with custom roms.
I'm still on a stock rom just now but the more I read on here the more I'm getting the itch to flash a custom rom, I'm putting it off though because I know that once I try one I wont be able to stop myself.........
Trust me you'll get the itch sooner or later.........
I went custom about 2 months ago and I have to say I honestly have not had to reboot the phone at all whereas on the original stock ROM the phone would lockup and freeze almost daily!!!
ALL HAIL THE MASTERCHEFS!!!!!!
NOOB - T-Mobile UK HD2 unlocked - no O2 connection..
Mong, sorry really long day......
Hey dubie,
As a lot of other people have put it, cooked roms are generally of a better quality than the stock roms. However they are still winmo roms so dont expect them to be as stable as their less customisable rivals. But thats just the small price you pay for a far better overall operating system.
Going back to your some of your other questions.
Currently it is not possible to run Android on the HD2, however there is a group of people feverishly working to try and fix this situation, I would like to see this done, but I am quite sure I would stick with winmo as my main os.
Unfortunately due to the varied nature of the hardware within winmo phones there is no current android rom that just works on all winmo phones. Some phones have android ports but many others do.
You mentioned about "Droid ROMs can be fully loaded to a winmo device correct? Why not if you wipe the device and reload it?"
I think you are talking about the use of Haret to run android roms from windows?
Haret is generally used in the developing stages of a linux rom to avoid having to flash a possibly buggy os. I beleive it is possible to flash a working linux rom to a winmo phone but it is usually not done, it is far more accepted to use haret to boot linux roms.
Thanks for all the replies. As a blackberry hybrid builder I made many builds that were way better than stock and more advanced so I can understand what you all are saying. I just am not seeing it yet in the posts. The ROMs I see made by people all have the registry tweaks I have already done and visual changed from the stock look. That's it. Am I not seeing something?
Yes your not seeing the full picture. Most cooks will use newer build components then what you will find in a stock ROM. Yes some of these components can be loaded through cabs but some can not. It is usually better to cook main OS apps and app components into a rom then loading them later. This tends to make things unstable and buggy. Yes a lot of cooks make theirs ROMs full of eye candy but that is only the icing on the cake so to say. You are coming from a phone that had nothing in terms of eye candy and was solely built for for function/productivity a newer WinMo phone is built to have both productivity and a pretty wrapper to go with it.
Don't worry the more you dig into the more you will understand and the more the urge will hit you to try a custom ROM.
Ok, so what ROM do you all recommend and why? I would like to test one out. I'm not interested in eye candy, just performance. I do not care about many apps either. Only twitter and Opera basically. I don't face book or use gmail.
Let me know what you all think or suggest.
I do have another question. Why do I keep getting this email user name and password popup? I keep entering it and checking the save password box but it still randomly pops up frequently. I have already tried deleting the yahoo email and resetting it back up.
You can start looking through them. There are some stripped down versions here and there but most will have other apps on it simple because thats what the cook uses.
The best idea for finding a rom that is right for you is just to browse the roms forum, look at what is included/removed from each rom and find one that matches the applications/functions you need.
make sure you follow this guide(or the one this links too if you have the american 1024 hd2) for updating your rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
most of the time the cooked rom is not faster than stock, but it got the latest updates on all applications, and thats nice =) bugs are fixed. Some cooked roms have a lot of bugs, so try a couple and find one you like
Ok, WTF now. I have read so many posts and searched my butt off here and all for nothing? Seems I have this SPL 2.10 whatever that is and cant load that HSPL program so I can flash a custom rom. WTF? how many darn steps do I have to go through to load a ROM on this phone? Why is this so complicated? If the phone is wiped, why can't whatever I want be loaded on it?
So what do I do now?
What is a hard and soft spl?
Why would I want to downgrade just to load this hspl?