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So we all know the Real Deal Froyo 2.2 is coming in just a few days away.
Have any of you though of an upgrade path for the installed apps currently running on 2.1?
There's a few ways to go about this:
- Wipe everything & start a'new
- Backup Apps & Settings, then restore it to Froyo
- Backup only Apps but no Settings & re-install everything after Froyo
- Undo the lag fix, flash back to stock ROM, then upgrade to Froyo, and wipe everything in the process.
- Other methods (please provide details)
Personally I'm inclined to #2 but I read people having complications with this process, so I might end up doing it the #3 way, but.... 400+ apps it's a bit crazy to go reinstalling all that, it'll take me probably 2 days to reconfigure all those apps/games
I'm glad i have an AppsBrain account, so i just need to hit Sync and it will re-install all those apps for me, but i still need to set all the settings again... that's going to be a royal pain in the arsenal
I am going with a complete fresh everything. Full factory reset first then format mem cards then upgrade, then factory reset again and maybe even another reformat. Not taking any blinking chances this time!
Also moving from a Gmail account to a Google Apps account so that should be interesting!
Appbrain reinstall
Roll on 2.2
How does Google/Samsung expect the average user to cope with an upgrade? By re-doing everything from scratch?
Appbrain helps but it's still a bit of an annoying process and it re-downloads everything from the net which slows things down. Restoring settings is impossible without rooting and may have problems when going from 2.1-2.2 so that's way out of reach to the average user.
Android seriously needs a better way of handling updates.
Personally I'm already on the JPC Froyo firmware so hopefully the official release is easy to root. Then I can just restore everything with Titanium Backup.
yeah no kidding, they don't even let you save or backup the files via KIES, so that you can restore them later.
in all other mobile phones, BlackBerry, PalmOS, Windows Mobile, Iphone
all of them will automatically create a backup of your stuff inside the phone, before it does the upgrade, so that after the upgrade it will automatically reload all your stuff back into the phone.
In Android we are lacking that, both times i've upgraded from one ROM to another ROM, it forced a full wipe on the phone.
luckily it was from a 2.1 to 2.1 so you can easily restore a back up from Titanium Backup, or any favourite backup Apps of your choice.
but I've read a lot of postings about people having problems when they restore the settings from 2.1 to 2.2
Apparently it's okay to restore all the Apps from 2.1 to 2.2 but you can't really restore the settings as it will crash 2.2
so even being able to restore all 400+ apps, i'll still need to spend countless hours to reconfigure them all
at least that saves me the 800+ clicks to OK install OK accept permission for each of the 400+ apps in my inventory. LOL
I doubt Samsung would keep their wrd on updating galaxys did u know what they did to samsung behold 2,
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just to clarify some misconceptions posted above ....it's not android that has any problems in updating, it's samsung.
i updated my nexus over the air easily without losing any apps settings etc, no need for a format or anything drastic.
it's only because kies does not work that we have to wipe and install via pc on a samsung.
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I doubt Samsung would keep their wrd on updating galaxys did u know what they did to samsung behold 2,
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tell us, we don't know
at least i don't know
tmzbeme said:
just to clarify some misconceptions posted above ....it's not android that has any problems in updating, it's samsung.
i updated my nexus over the air easily without losing any apps settings etc, no need for a format or anything drastic.
it's only because kies does not work that we have to wipe and install via pc on a samsung.
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that's comforting to know... so Samsung is not mature enough on the App+scripting+upgrade side of things
yes Kies does not provide an option to backup/restore the stuff during a firmware upgrade
is there any way to keep all my apps on JPC as i have no idea if titanium backup will work with jpc and wont that mean waiting until the official 2.2 is rooted?
My htc desire went from 2.1 to 2.2 without a hitch. All applications were kept on the device with the new features tacked on.
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gtanny said:
is there any way to keep all my apps on JPC as i have no idea if titanium backup will work with jpc and wont that mean waiting until the official 2.2 is rooted?
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Froyo is rooted already
the official one will be rooted the same way as the alpha/beta that are floating around already
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tell us, we don't know
at least i don't know
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Behold II owners were promised a 2.1 update which went awry so those not willing to risk flashing a non-vendor ROM are stuck with 1.6. It was about that time that Samsung started to concentrate on the Galaxy range of handsets.
Hopefully they won't do the same thing when the SGS II is released...
Odd reading this as when I upgraded from 2.1 to 2.2 JPC totally unintentionally it kept all my data and settings as well as the apps. The problem was that the data was configured to 2.1 and so I got loads of force closes so had to uninstall and reinstall all the apps so it ended up quicker doing a factory reset and starting from scratch.
On my rooted hero I went from custom 2.1 rom did a titanium backup with apps and settings flashed 2.2 downloaded titanium again restored and got everything back with settings.
We need to be allowed to store the ROMs on the phone and use recovery like on rooted phones. I much prefer that way of doing it. we should have the option in instead of risking bricking your phone if your computer crashed. Also have an updated app like with the villainroms much similar.
Looking at the app ak notes I have entries dating back November 16 last year. Wiped rom update was a few months back saving settings brought all the data back when I restored.
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I'll be going for the flashing with Odin method. Kies is a horrible program.
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Just to get things clear. Any update wipe out your data or only to 2.2?
I updated some days ago and didn't lose nothing.
Thanks for informing allgamer
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Behold II owners were promised a 2.1 update which went awry so those not willing to risk flashing a non-vendor ROM are stuck with 1.6. It was about that time that Samsung started to concentrate on the Galaxy range of handsets.
Hopefully they won't do the same thing when the SGS II is released...
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I'm just not thinking about it atm. I have 63 apps :S
As one of the option at the poll says, is it necessary to undo lagfix before flashing? Wouldn't flashing wipe off the 2GB partition?
froyos floating around dont delete your data. but its often recommended to factory reset anyway to avoid troubles. in any case better safe than sorry. titanum backup works in free mode. backup all and copy the titanium backup dir from the phones internal sdcard to the external one or to your pc. youll be glad you did if you ever run into troubles.
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Hey folks I been reading the forums for a while, and I'm a little confused on how my GT manages it's data.
My tab is a t mobile, I rooted it the first day, messed around, broke a few apps. Did a POWER-VOLUME restore, and all seemed good. However the tab is still rooted after the restore. Therefore I assuming user data is stored on a separate partation, and the base system is left alone during restore? I would like to be able to do a complete system restore so the tab is a bit for bit exact copy of the day one state. Is this possible?
It would be even better if I could load a vanilla samsung image, without any t mobile branding, programs, etc.. Is this currently possible?
Thanks folks
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You're not doing a system restore with a factory reset, you're just deleting all user data and user installed programs.
Since the Superuser (root) program is installed via a backdoor and into the system area that a factory reset doesn't touch, it's not nuked, it's treated as if it's part of the factory firmware/software.
Best way to do a bit-by-bit is to track down the T-Mobile factory firmware (you can find it on Samfirmware.com) and install it via the Odin updater program. Lots of good info on how to do that in the Galaxy S I9000, Captivate, Vibrant, etc forums. Not hard, but you need your ducks in a row before you start.
If all you want to do is remove traces of your rooting (like you're wanting to return it to the store or something), that can be manually removed with the help of the Android SDK or Root Explorer. If you used Z4Root to do it, there's an option in that app to undo it as well, no muss, no fuss.
From there, it's essentially fully back to stock.
Croak, thanks for the quick reply. I still want it rooted, but I been messin around so much im not sure what I messed up. The factory tmobile firware flash is what im gonna do then. but to be clear theres no way to run a unmodified vanilla samsung firware?
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huh?
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after reading the last question it doesnt make sense.
i would like to run plain vanilla android that has no tmobile boot logo, is carrier unlocked, and no tmobile apps - branding - icons - themes - programs - settings or customizations... just straight up android?
is it possible?
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Croak, thanks for the quick reply. I still want it rooted, but I been messin around so much im not sure what I messed up. The factory tmobile firware flash is what im gonna do then. but to be clear theres no way to run a unmodified vanilla samsung firware?
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Not if you want your radios to work properly...the only "vanilla" builds out there are for the unbranded European/Asian versions, which don't run on AWS.
You can put together a frankenbuild with Euro PDA/CSC and T-Mobile modem which might do what you want, but frankly, there's not much in the way of bloat or crippling on the T-Mobile version (not counting the whole voice calling thing), and what is there is easy enough to remove with something like Titanium Backup.
OK, congratulate me!! Thanks. I did it on the first try, no issue or hiccups what-so-ever.
Now for the info. I'm not sure that anyone will be interested, but I'm guessing other people in my position at least might be.
I'm very experienced with computers, but not working directly with rooting/unlocking devices. But I would say anyone who reads up a bit and can follow directions properly could pull it off pretty easily.
So I run 2.2.2, and I used superoneclick 1.6.3.
After opening superoneclick, I switched it from psneuter to rageagainsthecage. I had no idea if I was supposed to do this, but I read all about rageagainstthecage, and never heard of psneuter.
I had my phone connected to my PC, and I left my SD in the phone, but I unmounted it in settings. I have used ADB before, so I knew the drivers were installed and working, and I hit the button root.
After reading this site, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682, I started with debugging off, and turned it on as it said. I then turned it off, but didn't get a chance to turn it back on and off and on, so I just turned it back on (debugging) when it got to "Waiting for device" for the second time.
That was it! It asked to test and see if root was in fact accomplished, and it was. I then installed setCPU (which is basically the only reason I wanted to do this) and as far as I can tell it seems to be working fine.
I have been reading a lot about this for the past few days, but the actual procedure only took a couple of minutes. Keeping in mind, of course, that I already had ADB and drivers working.
Nothing was wiped off my phone, which surprisingly was hard to confirm on the web. I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
I hope this helps anyone else who is new and unsure of the process, and I'd be happy to answer any other specific questions based on what I have learned of the last week or so. I know that people hesitate to ask questions in case they have already been asked lots of times, but are buried and hard to find (because that's the position I was in ).
Thanks for posting your "rooting" experience. I'm sure there are people that will find it helpful.
I think when I did mine, it was something along the lines of:
fastboot-oem-unlock
fastboot flash recovery <whatever>
reboot into recovery and flash rom
Other than the ability to install custom ROM's I've yet to see a huge deal in rooting my phone. Anyone care to tell me what I can do with a rooted N1 that is a must have? So far I tried to change some fonts, which didn't work, and discovered that I have to install a custom ROM to change the color of the notification bar, and I can't make the default Google music and news widgets slightly transparent. So educate me, what's the huge deal with rooting, aside from a custom ROM?
Set cpu of course like being said. I remember the first time I rooted my phone was universal androot it was a breeze. Then I lost root and use super one click to gain out back. Root really easy as well
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- Backup application, like MyBackup, can backup your app data(including game save...) if your device is rooted.
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
Built in trackball colors, call blocker, hide frequently called list in the favorites tab, remove unnecessary apps, tmobile wifi calling, notification bar power toggles, trackball wake and unlock, quiet hours, themes, etc., etc., etc. Just off the top of my head. Oh, and Gingerbread!!!
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Some apps want to bypass the home screen "5 second rule" like widget locker, you need root. I setup a widget to reboot (nice!).
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...I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
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Unlocking the Bootloader wipes data, rooting does not. This is probably what you read.
offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7? Yes you can. Often if the ROM is the next version in a series, you can flash without wiping data or cache, but some ROMs require you to do this first.
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to? A Nandroid backup can be reinstalled from any ROM, or even just from Recovery if there is no ROM.
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away? Yes. Either restore your stock ROM Nandroid backup or a passimg.zip.
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
2. Nandroids can be reinstalled anytime. However, a nandroid does not contain your HBOOT and Radio. So if you updated those to use a specific ROM, they would stay in place with the nandroid restore.
3. When GB does finally make it out to our specific device, there is no way you would get an OTA before the ROM devs here had you up and running.
***Also note, the 1-click root tools may or may not work right away with the OTA 2.3. So to anyone that rooted using those tools and unrooted to hurry up and get an OTA, you may be stuck on stock until it gets fixed.
Know-Fear said:
1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
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I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
bigmout said:
I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
brettbellaire said:
So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
The only thing you'd lose is the old rom
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
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Nope
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Nope
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Interesting... Thanks!
@ brettbellaire
I've rooted before, and lost root when ota's came. I've rooted again using superoneclick, and am contemplating cm7. But I feel very cautious about flashing a different rom, I'd cry if I bricked my phone. However, I'm probably going to do it during the next week (unless gingerbread ota arrives).
Andy
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Hmmm, I have been anxious for GB too.... but I'm not sure it's worth it. I don't think it's such a big update. I don't think there's too much of a danger of brinking these days.
I have been contemplating doing what I have to to overclock, see what kind of a difference that makes...
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I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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I am a newbie to root. Can Titanium Backup restore the paid apps? because some apps require online verification with Google at the first time of use.
Also, Z4root does not work on my N1. I want to use superoneclick but where can I find the driver for my win7? thanks
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is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
zmalach said:
is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
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If you see the padlock, you've got an unlocked boot-loader. This can't be re-locked.
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Over the last month or two, my A500 has really started dogging it. About four minutes to boot, apps load and run slowly, even uninstalling an app can take two to three minutes. I'm about ready to do a full app backup with Titanium and wipe and re-root, unless anyone else has any ideas.
ThatGeekGuy said:
Over the last month or two, my A500 has really started dogging it. About four minutes to boot, apps load and run slowly, even uninstalling an app can take two to three minutes. I'm about ready to do a full app backup with Titanium and wipe and re-root, unless anyone else has any ideas.
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First I would like to recommend My backup Pro. Its totally worth the buy and you don't have to install each app one at a time saying yes to install each and everyone. Everything just loads all back in at one time and then you reboot. Its awesome.
Second. why go to all that trouble? Why not just format/factory wipe from Clockwork Mod and reinstall the ROM you are running? Losing root and then obtaining it again is not really worth doing IMHO.
also while your spring cleaning, look around in your android secure folders and look for app data that was left behind after uninstalls, I did that and got a bunch of space back
If I only had programming experience an app that would remove old data would be gold
Turboboxer said:
First I would like to recommend My backup Pro. Its totally worth the buy and you don't have to install each app one at a time saying yes to install each and everyone. Everything just loads all back in at one time and then you reboot. Its awesome.
Second. why go to all that trouble? Why not just format/factory wipe from Clockwork Mod and reinstall the ROM you are running? Losing root and then obtaining it again is not really worth doing IMHO.
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I'm not running a custom ROM, I'm still at:
Ver 3.1
Kernel 2.6.36.3
Build Acer_A500_4.010.13_COM_GEN2
I didn't take the OTA update to 3.2 and lose root, which I use for Titanium and a few other programs. I am considering going to one of the ICS ROMs since they're looking pretty stable.
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First I would like to recommend My backup Pro. Its totally worth the buy and you don't have to install each app one at a time saying yes to install each and everyone. Everything just loads all back in at one time and then you reboot. Its awesome.
Second. why go to all that trouble? Why not just format/factory wipe from Clockwork Mod and reinstall the ROM you are running? Losing root and then obtaining it again is not really worth doing IMHO.
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Titanium pro does this as well for a long time
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Seems if you used a backup app to backup all your apps, including some that may be rogue or mis-behaving, it seems you would just install them all back, thus not fixing the issue.
Also, old performance scripts and tweaks may be tweaking your tab, but not exactly in the way you wanted. I would suggest removing them and check performance.
A good fresh format and a clean install is the way to go. Install apps "one" at a time till you see a performance drop.
There are also already rooted versions of 3.2.1 available.
Once you start a clean up, maybe a good opportunity to upgrade also to the new version. This would be installed by CWM
cleanup
ThatGeekGuy said:
Over the last month or two, my A500 has really started dogging it. About four minutes to boot, apps load and run slowly, even uninstalling an app can take two to three minutes. I'm about ready to do a full app backup with Titanium and wipe and re-root, unless anyone else has any ideas.
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if you are on stock rom
i recommend you to use titanium backup pro and cleanup your dalvik cache.
then you could use es task manager in start up optimizer section you can disable un needed services it would shorten the boot time.
but i think the best thing is to install a custom kernel with over clocking features alongside.
with 1504 over clocking your tab will fly
Few days ago, I was very suprised because I thought that If you have rooted android, the phone won't be able to update by itself. I got the notification to update it... I clicked on "Download" button to download an update and soon, the device restarted into recovery mode.. And that's all... I restarted the system and nothing happend.. The android did not update. Now I recieved the notification to install update again. How can I update it? Will I lose any data?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433/page473
Having the same issue.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433/page473
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I read few comments.. And they said that you can easily brick your phone, and when that happens even Nandroid backup doesn't help you anymore. Umm.. Do you lose root or any data when flashing ota update through FlashFire?
Thank you!
fftorettol said:
I read few comments.. And they said that you can easily brick your phone, and when that happens even Nandroid backup doesn't help you anymore. Umm.. Do you lose root or any data when flashing ota update through FlashFire?
Thank you!
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I've used it several times for ota updates. Just flashed the DP2 a few days ago. There's always a risk when using apps like these but I'd say Nexus devices are more brick-safe than other phones with flashfire. It has options to restore both root and recovery. Also restores data. Only things that didn't remain intact were my pixel mods (assistant, navbar, etc. ) and substratum themes but that is expected and they were easily reinstalled. The first boot also takes awhile after flashing ota, maybe 5-8 minutes? Not sure as I left phone charging.