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just got from my widget new 3g coverage coming by quarter. third quarter for me buffalo ny YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
^^ bad link
http://droiddeveloper.com/upcoming-tmo-3g-launch-dates/
Yay, Corona, CA. It's about damn time too. Although, if I drive barely 5 miles west I get 3g and also get 3G at my workplace which is in Los Angeles county. It's only at my house where I only get Edge connection.
edit: 3rd quarter, so that means I will be getting 3g in my city sometime between June and September, nice...looks like I will no longer have to turn on wifi when I get home.
Damn this 3g thing sucks (lack of).
If I go the nyc The speed is beautiful. In westchester too. I get to Stamford and get a weak signal by UBS and nothing anywhere else. In norwalk, I get a 3g sinal once in a blue. random times in the evening. And when I realize it the speeds are horrible. Damn T mo. I know you can dish out the signal...Hurry/
I waited so long, but 3Q for CT seems so far away.
When they add 3G coverage to a city how big of a radius is effected? I'm about 40 miles from Manchester, NH and 50 miles from Portland, ME (both second quarter upgrades according to the link). I know those distances are quite large but using the Boston 3G as a reference on Tmobile's coverage checker (which is currently down) it covers a pretty wide span.
Will I notice a difference?
There is a possibility youll see a difference, just depends on location i.e living in a Valley etc, im not overly familiar with the US topography as i only know the tourist destinations of Florida, California and Vegas Baby!!
Im from England,, where Bump mapping was something Cartographers used to do to their wives
all i can say is im with 3G and i live about 40 miles from Manchester (UK) and 15 Miles from Sheffield (UK) so where ever there is a big City, for me there is 3G
Its good to hear 3G is rolling out for you!
Dantehman said:
There is a possibility youll see a difference, just depends on location i.e living in a Valley etc, im not overly familiar with the US topography as i only know the tourist destinations of Florida, California and Vegas Baby!!
Im from England,, where Bump mapping was something Cartographers used to do to their wives
all i can say is im with 3G and i live about 40 miles from Manchester (UK) and 15 Miles from Sheffield (UK) so where ever there is a big City, for me there is 3G
Its good to hear 3G is rolling out for you!
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Cool, it's reasonably flat between me and Manchester NH so finger's crossed.
I'm from Blighty myself by the way.
None in Columbus Yet
So, it says Q2 for Columbus, OH and I'm yet to get any. I wonder just how reliable that list is.
Sock Monkey said:
When they add 3G coverage to a city how big of a radius is effected? I'm about 40 miles from Manchester, NH and 50 miles from Portland, ME (both second quarter upgrades according to the link). I know those distances are quite large but using the Boston 3G as a reference on Tmobile's coverage checker (which is currently down) it covers a pretty wide span.
Will I notice a difference?
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Where are you from? I'm moving back to Manchester in a month, I'm excited about 3g . I live in Nashua now and there's no 3g till around Lowell and south and it's blotchy. As it is in Manchester Edge is blotchy and at my moms house I only get gprs, but near Elm street and east I get Edge. I was working in Beverly mass and I get some 3.5g out there. 2nd quarter is april - june correct? So I should be getting 3g real soon.
There were quite a few blind spots in the 3G network in the Minneapolis/St Paul (Minnesota) northern suburbs, but this past Tuesday, T-Mobile turned on their new 3G towers. It's great to have 3G at work now, and I can actually do some webbrowsing on my breaks.
jordanjay29 said:
There were quite a few blind spots in the 3G network in the Minneapolis/St Paul (Minnesota) northern suburbs, but this past Tuesday, T-Mobile turned on their new 3G towers. It's great to have 3G at work now, and I can actually do some webbrowsing on my breaks.
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Nice! I can't wait for my city to get it. I'm sick of toggling on wifi when I get home.
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Where are you from? I'm moving back to Manchester in a month, I'm excited about 3g . I live in Nashua now and there's no 3g till around Lowell and south and it's blotchy. As it is in Manchester Edge is blotchy and at my moms house I only get gprs, but near Elm street and east I get Edge. I was working in Beverly mass and I get some 3.5g out there. 2nd quarter is april - june correct? So I should be getting 3g real soon.
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I'm in Dover and I'm crawling along on GPRS except when I hook into WiFi.
Apparently I was down in Brooklyn the other day to visit someone, attempting to make a call I found out my normal "EDGE" icon turns to "3G", so I ran a mobile speed test and turns out I was getting 800~Kb/s. So is it possible that AT&T can actually have different frequency in some areas? I didn't have a video camera to film this atm. But if anyone want to verify it who lives near the area.. 8th Avenue Brooklyn, NY 11220
Anyway just some interesting find =) for those who can't survive without 3G speed on AT&T network for the G1, maybe you can live there
Yep Data Roaming was def on, I paid for that service! and it's not a bug, after I left that area speed returned to EDGE and I started to get like...200Kb/s to 100Kb/s again =\
Are you sure roaming was off?
hmmm.... very interesting
http://coverage.t-mobile.com/default.aspx?MapType=Data
...tmobile has 3g coverage there...
scobiie said:
Apparently I was down in Brooklyn the other day to visit someone, attempting to make a call I found out my normal "EDGE" icon turns to "3G", so I ran a mobile speed test and turns out I was getting 800~Kb/s. So is it possible that AT&T can actually have different frequency in some areas? I didn't have a video camera to film this atm. But if anyone want to verify it who lives near the area.. 8th Avenue Brooklyn, NY 11220
Anyway just some interesting find =) for those who can't survive without 3G speed on AT&T network for the G1, maybe you can live there
Yep Data Roaming was def on, I paid for that service! and it's not a bug, after I left that area speed returned to EDGE and I started to get like...200Kb/s to 100Kb/s again =\
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This has been documented before in San Francisco too. I'm guessing it's due to some roaming setup that incidentally resulted in 3G nodes also being activated for att users. It's probably not something att or tmo would advertise, as att doesn't officially have 1700AWS handsets and tmo really has no reason to push its users to att. That's just my uneducated guess.
What are the forum's opinions on Verizon's network? Especially those of you who changed to Verizon from another network for the Incredible.
I'll be honest. The network has not been bad, I have service most places and 3g is decently reliable and fast. Not really digging that antenna indicator that makes up the bars on it's own, but performance was pretty good.
However, I didn't expect 'ok.' I expected 'The Network.' I expected moving from tmobile, the smallest carrier, and the n1, a phone with horrible antenna problems for alot of people, to get reception anywhere other people had reception. But in my area [suburb of Dallas TX] ATT seems to actually have more reliable coverage. In my house Tmo gets no reception [my house is a dead zone apparently.] ATT gets full reception. So in changing to verizon I checked their coverage map.... full 3g everywhere in my area. 1 bar in my house. 3g in my garage. Better than Tmo but ATT is 5 bars 3g!
And as far cities or major areas... never had a probl with Tmo there, always good HSPA. But leave a city and roll the dice.
Overall I rate Verizons network a 4 for North Texas Area. Tmo 3 Sprint 2 Att 5.
For Boston, my TMobile phones had much better call quality/clarity. I have not dropped any Verizon calls yet, but it is sometimes hard to understand what the other person is saying on the far side of the line.
On the other hand, the 3g speed and coverage has seemed good.
I have noticed the greater 3G coverage. I came from AT&T and this weekend I traveled across the country and spent some time in 6 different states, CA, IL, TX, NY, NJ, PA. Some were just driving through, others were airports. Never once did I notice a lack of 3G coverage. However most of the time I was at 1 or 2 bars, although that didn't seem to effect my experience.
It even worked in the plane at 30k feet, but only when I was above a major city. Gave me enough time to download an app. (yeah I know they don't want you to do that, I'm bad)
Coming from AT&T I do miss one thing, Data+Voice at the same time. More than a few times I was on a call with the hotel or car rental and they asked me for information I did not have handy. It was in my emails, but I couldn't access data to get them while on the phone. So I was put in a position where I had to anticipate what information I needed before a call and pull it up first. Another time I was talking to a friend about where we were going to meet, and I couldnt access Google Maps. It's kinda annoying.
I switched from T-mobile and while I'm gonna be missing my nexus once that 2.2 update comes out, my coverage is amazingly better, and my service overall wasn't that bad to begin with. Verizon has far surpassed my expectations.
Verizon user here who left Big Red, went to Big Orange, and then back to Verizon.
In my experience (here in central and western Pennsylvania), AT&T is hands down faster. This is simply the case with GSM as opposed to CDMA. However, 3G coverage with AT&T is spotty, whereas Verizon is awesome.
I have also noticed a misconception that # of bars is best indicator of performance. A better measuring tool is to check the following:
Menu > Settings > About Phone > Network
Take note of the Signal Strength. Somewhere around 50 dBm is almost excellent coverage while the closer you get to 100 dBm is borderline questionable coverage.
I am back with Verizon after less than a year with Sprint, and I am glad to be back. I had left VZW because of their crippled phones (reduced memory - disabled features - etc.), and not because of their service, which was fine.
I was quickly reminded that no matter how good a phone is, it's not worth a damn when paired with lousy service. Obviously YMMV, but where I live, near the edge of town but supposedly in a perfectly normal coverage area, Sprint is seriously lacking.
Average signal at my desk with Sprint was -95db or worse, and maybe as good as -92 if I went upstairs. Calls would drop fairly often, but even worse were the ones that *didn't* drop completely, and instead just went all flaky with audio cut-outs (with both phones I had on Sprint, the Touch Pro & the Hero). I was always running upstairs anytime an important call came in, just for the few db less signal loss, in the hopes that Sprint wouldn't ruin the call and make an ass out of me again (I can do that just fine on my own, thanks). Data throughput was also pretty inconsistent on Sprint. Sometimes it would work great while I was at some other location such as onsite with a client, but that just wasn't good enough. I need my phone to work where I live.
Anyways, back with Verizon things seem pretty steady for me. I get an average of -90db or better at my desk, sometimes as good as -85db, and if I go upstairs I have seen signals as good as -78db hold for a while. I have only had a single dropped call, and I saw no sign that it was a signal issue at the time. All of my calls have been clear, with no detected or reported audio cut-outs. Real-world data throughput is also much better for me than it was with Sprint. Web pages load consistently where they used to be sporadic, downloads don't stall anymore, and videos buffer just fine that I couldn't even touch on Sprint. No complaints about service here.
I wish Sprint all the best, but they won't be getting any more $$$ from me anytime soon. As for Verizon...well...what can I say except "Hey baby, thanks for taking me back! I missed you."
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Overall I rate Verizons network a 4 for North Texas Area. Tmo 3 Sprint 2 Att 5.
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Att 5, lmao
Try this get speedtest from the market, have your friend get speedtest from the app store, whenever you have the chance post run the test 3 times simultaneously and see how bad att network is. att network is like a ford fiesta, nobody wants it, but some are forced to endure it.
my conclusion on vzw is i am ususlayy getting 1.5-1.75 Mbps down and 600-1000Kbps up all the time at different locations. My friends iphone has never hit more than 1.2 , usually its 400-800Kbps down and up 200-500Kbps
i know different areas have different speeds, but in my area and most areas i have been to, mostly west coast, these results seem to be the norm
VZW coverage has always been great for me. Everywhere I go I ubersexual great reception in voice and 3g. I work in the Nevada desert sometimes and had data coverage where I wouldn't have expected it. And voice coverage was nearly always there. Can't wait for LTE.
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Once I exchanged my phone for another because of something unrelated to signal I have noticed a difference. Before my phone would stick on 1x but now sitting in the exactly the same spot I only get as low as Rev-A. So there was an obvious problem with the radio on my last Incredible.
I've seen a few places where ATT could get out and VZW can't. Usually on a dirt road in the middle of nowhere. Having said that VZW is always crystal clear where ATT is garbled. I drop a VZW call about every 6 months.
I don't know what the Incredible's deal is with bars for the signal indicator, hut its not accurate. With the MOTO Droid sitting side by side, the DI always have less bars but is you watch the actual dbm, its the same or slightly better. I given on using bars at all. I just check that I have signal. I've done a lot of travelling and I have not lost service yet. some of my travel is in rural Mississippi.
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I had to go with a 4. VZW service is the best I've ever had, but coming from T-Mo, I got spoiled by the voice+data simultaneously. If that somehow became possible on CDMA networks, VZW would be perfect in my eyes.
I live 20 miles out in the suburbs in SC and I get 2 bars and 3G all day long. VZW has the coverage.
I came from AT&T to Verizon last month in NJ. It's one of the states where it's just blanketed in every cell service. Verizon is the best network I have ever seen. AT&T's network was unusable at times. Their data network was complete and utter garbage. I browse faster with Verizon on one bar than I ever did with AT&T with full bars. I'll never, ever go back.
I to am in NJ (NY Metro Area) Signal strength at home is a constant -71dbm, and at work a phenomenal -64dbm, had Sprint(my work),ATT(wifes work),TMobile (Son's current) all were "ok" but data by far is much faster with VZ, and I don't recall any dropped calls.
Super fast 3G outside...Tmobile's was MUCH slower. But seems like T-mobile signal in Atlanta could penetrate any building and the second I walk indoors with Verizon I am jumping around on 1x all the time. Cant get a 3G signal at work and spend 9 hours of my day there. T-mobile full bars of 3G goodness. 1 dropped call so far in 3 weeks so thats really good.
Verizon network is good here in Washington D.C. Metro area and surrounding areas. Ive only seen one dead zone while riding VRE train, its between stafford and quantico. Ive never had dropped calls or bad call quality. Only complaint i have is 3g speeds seem to be a lot slower in the city dunno if its maintenance or just too many people on the towers or w/e. Not even able to stream internet radio sometimes while in the city. speedtest.net app shows between 80kbps and 200kbps while in city. I get up to 4000kbps at my house outside the city in Fredericksburg.
Cycling from 3G to 1X
Data service will not lock into 3g but every few minutes jumps between 1X and 3g with attendant decrease and increase in data rates: 1x - 60 to 90 kbps down, 40 to 80 kbps up, 3g - 240 to 400 kbps down, 180 to 320 kbps up, all are average and sometimes much better on 3G during non peak periods. VZ reports no data problems at location and said to contact HTC.
Not a signal strength or reception problem and does not happen on two other phones sitting side by side with INC. INC: -87 to -89 db, Samsung Omnia II: -86 to -88 db, BB 8330: -87 to -89 db. All other phones have solid 3g signal and data rates all the time.
I really hesitate to exchange this phone because everything else appears to be working fine after doing the EVRC-B change to improve voice quality and I don't want to get another one with some other problem. Guess I'll wait as long as possible in the 30 day trial in hopes that either a fix is put out or a later batch of phones won't have the problem.
Re: Cycling from 3G to 1X
Replying to my own message: I now know why I am seeing this behavior. I got a free app "Real Signal" from the Market which displays the CDMA and EVDO signals in db separately. If this app is accurate my INC has a 10 to 20 db difference between the two with the CDMA -87 to -89 and the EVDO -95 to -118. So it looks like my INC has an antenna problem or a radio front end problem for the 1900 MHz band.
Also it seems that the change from EVRC to EVRC-B has not improved my voice quality as much as I thought as all day yesterday I had several calls that were muffled and dropping syllables. I do wish that HTC would get its act together as this is a great device otherwise.
I had iPhone 3G on AT&T in northern VA now with Incredible on Verizon I see huge upgrade in terms of speed and covarage. Its great!! also incredible is far better phone than iPhone.
Any word on when 4g will be coming to south Florida the guy I got my phone from. It should be out this month or next any news on this tried searching
I don't know about next month, but I'm relying on this as the definitive source of information:
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/cache_carey/2010/03/sprint-4g-coming-to-south-florida-this-year.html
I've spoken with people from Clear and Sprint. 4G doesn't come to Miami until Nov/Dec
Damn. That sucks I'm really surprised to hear that I was hoping. Sooner then that
Just an FYI
I have picked up a 4G signal while driving on I-95 south toward Downtown Miami. This has happenned twice already.
Since I am driving I could not really test it and I lose the signal quickly.
Any new update on this that's pretty cool u got reception that must mean not that far away
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Just an FYI
I have picked up a 4G signal while driving on I-95 south toward Downtown Miami. This has happenned twice already.
Since I am driving I could not really test it and I lose the signal quickly.
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To add to that, I got signal while on Flamingo Road heading North about 2 miles from the 595 bridge.
I couldn't test as I was driving but the phone mentioned a signal but quickly dropped it.
lolz mclollerson said:
To add to that, I got signal while on Flamingo Road heading North about 2 miles from the 595 bridge.
I couldn't test as I was driving but the phone mentioned a signal but quickly dropped it.
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I live by flamingo and 595 LOL No signal at my house I will have to try driving north couple miles and see if I can find it, there is a Radio Shack and a Walmart that way so I guess it's possible one of them has a tower on thier roof.
Me and my brother have both picked up and sustained a faint 4g signal right off i95 and the golden glades interchange at our friend house
my wifes father actually works for a company that has a contract with Clear here in Florida. they are actually working on towers on the east coast and yes miami also. he says that because of bad communications and issues with Clear's wimax setup on the towers here in florida, have lead to them having to redo towers and such adding/removing hardware from the towers and doing the tedious setups over again on most of the towers that were already finished. the company her dad works for is actually pissed about the issues that have come about, because they are Clear's issues and fault. his company is having to redo alot of towers for little or nothing because of the contracts that were put into place at the time of bidding. this is all what he has told me and again hes nly hearing this stuff from hear say within the company he works for. but he also knows that Clear/Sprint are very aware of 4G coverage sucking/spotty/buggy at best. my recent trip to Atlanta i seen issues with the service. i believed it had to do more with me being root and stuff that comes with it then Sprint/Clears fault at the time. after speaking with her dad over the holiday i feel differently now. see he really knows little about what I/we do here and he knows more about what the service acts like for "normal users" and from the discussions with hm ive found out that "normal users" have all the same issues we do. even he notes Wimax/4G is a crappy service as of now and he feels like hes setting things up that arent being thought through very well. idk just thought id share. i live in central florida so 4G is a no go for a while for me :/
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my wifes father actually works for a company that has a contract with Clear here in Florida. they are actually working on towers on the east coast and yes miami also. he says that because of bad communications and issues with Clear's wimax setup on the towers here in florida, have lead to them having to redo towers and such adding/removing hardware from the towers and doing the tedious setups over again on most of the towers that were already finished. the company her dad works for is actually pissed about the issues that have come about, because they are Clear's issues and fault. his company is having to redo alot of towers for little or nothing because of the contracts that were put into place at the time of bidding. this is all what he has told me and again hes nly hearing this stuff from hear say within the company he works for. but he also knows that Clear/Sprint are very aware of 4G coverage sucking/spotty/buggy at best. my recent trip to Atlanta i seen issues with the service. i believed it had to do more with me being root and stuff that comes with it then Sprint/Clears fault at the time. after speaking with her dad over the holiday i feel differently now. see he really knows little about what I/we do here and he knows more about what the service acts like for "normal users" and from the discussions with hm ive found out that "normal users" have all the same issues we do. even he notes Wimax/4G is a crappy service as of now and he feels like hes setting things up that arent being thought through very well. idk just thought id share. i live in central florida so 4G is a no go for a while for me :/
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I'm in West Palm probably not too far from you. I hope they get this right and it doesn't take forever. That speed would be sweet...
Miami is on the official list for the Nov/Dec but I have also heard of people finding 4G in Orlando and over near Daytona. Up here you can connect to it but are still unable to use it.
I too live on flamingo and 595 lol...just to day on 595 around nob hill i saw it pop up then go way...the worst is at my work..(ft. laderdale) all day 4g comes in and out in the building im in...i can never actually connect to it it just says its available but when i click on it nothing happens then pops up again a few min later...strange thing is a coworker would put his evo right next to mine and wont pick anything up at all...we know his phone works bc he used 4g in DC a bunch of times...
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I got 4g notifications in Ft.Laderdale and 595 area but cant connect.
Clear tower climbs
As the last guy mentioned. I work for a radio shop and I was at a tower site where clearwire has been hanging the 2.3/2.5 ghz antennas and samsung base radios on this specific tower in delray. The system there is in test mode as the IP switches on them aren't fibered in yet. When I talk to the tower crew next week I will ask them for more exact ETA's on the tower/building sites they are doing down here.
Lebron to Miami 4g up next lol I'm just playing but I did get 4g reception on 595 to
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Miami is on the official list for the Nov/Dec but I have also heard of people finding 4G in Orlando and over near Daytona. Up here you can connect to it but are still unable to use it.
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I live over in East Orlando and I pick up a lot of 4G signal, but it always stalls out at obtaining an IP address. As I head over towards downtown Orlando and the west side of town, there is less and less 4G around. I'm hoping that 4G is turned on soon. It's a bit of a tease seeing the signal and not being able to use any of it
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As the last guy mentioned. I work for a radio shop and I was at a tower site where clearwire has been hanging the 2.3/2.5 ghz antennas and samsung base radios on this specific tower in delray. The system there is in test mode as the IP switches on them aren't fibered in yet. When I talk to the tower crew next week I will ask them for more exact ETA's on the tower/building sites they are doing down here.
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Any news on this? I'm starting to pick up signals in Davie but can't connect.
Thanks!
Any update on this
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I can confirm 4G is working in Pembroke pines on pines blvd between university and flamingo. was getting 4mb down 1Mb up
FYI:
There is already a "4G in Miami" thread on here. There's a lot to read about if you want to find 4G spots here. There are a few confirmed placed in Miami and Broward where 4G is active.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756209&page=13
Today my friend texted me telling me we had 4G service, I was at another friend's house a few blocks from mine and turned it on to find 4G signal. Very weak, and it didn't run particularly well, but it was there. Then I went to pick up another friend who lives at a greater elevation, and for a little while I picked up 2 bars and tried loading the eiffel tower site and it loaded insanely fast, much faster then when I'm on 3G. Now I'm back home, and unfortunately can't pick up 4G. I live in Burbank, CA. Wondering if it rolled out all throughout LA? Anyone else picking up anything in the area?
I don't live in LA, I live in OC, but I've been up to LA a couple times and I have turned on my 4G radio and have got 1-2 bars of 4G signal. I didn't test it out too extensively though.
There is limited WiMax services in downtown area. I had a mapped out Google Map somewhere.
Anyway it works good when you are elevated and in downtown. Speed is nice as noted by OP.
Let's hope they extend the coverage soon.
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4g is working in parts of WLA and Downtown.
Check out Map Viewer in the market and you can filter the map by 4g (and by any other carrier). It will give you an idea of where you can turn on 4g if you need the higher speeds.
4G also works in Santa Monica
so ive gotten 4g on temple and grand, on the 5 south going through downtown la, and through hollywood, also i got it going on the 5 north near norwalk, but its really sensitive like ill have a couple bars then nothing it seems more "specific" than 3g which i think would more gradually go out
There is testing going on all over LA. I have gotten it in Cypress, Hollywood, LA, Anaheim etc.
But it cuts in and out very frequently. Towers are in place, but not deployed yet.