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Original Telus HTC Hero ROM Image???

Guys,
I am interested in rooting my Telus Hero, but I am wanting to know if there is an original ROM image available for the Telus variant so that I can restore the phone to factory configuration if I need to. I mainly want to do this to install the Google Turn-By-Turn Navigation on it.
Thanks,
Y2J

just do a nandroid backup of your telus rom before flashing...

In order to do a Nandroid backup I have to root the phone first correct? If this is the case, then there is no way to unroot the phone to it's default out of box state, correct?
Thanks,
Y2J

Not quite correct, but close enough so as not to matter.
You don't need to be rooted to run Nandroid, but you do need to boot a custom recovery image. On earlier stock ROMs, it was possible to boot a recovery image without flashing it do the device, but this probably isn't an option for you since I guess the Telus Hero has the new SPL which disallows this.
What you really need is an original Telus RUU, but I'm not aware if this publicly exists.
Regards,
Dave

That's correct, there's no public Telus RUU.
If you really want a Telus stock ROM to revert to, wait till the eclair update comes out.

@y2jdmbfan
I was in the same boat as you. Wanted to use custom ROM but always wanted to have to option to go back to stock Telus ROM. I lasted a little over a month and bit the bullet. To be honest, if you are comfortable with customs roms and general phone hacking then I don't think there's a need to wait. There are some good stable custom roms out there and I don't see a need to ever go back to stock Telus (unless you need warranty work perhaps? but not sure).

I may bite the bullet tonight and try it out. I am using mine on AT&T in the USA anyways, so warranty work is out of the question.

To be honest, if you've flashed a custom ROM and you phone does go wrong, in order to get it back to stock your phone would need function to such an extent that you could load an RUU on to it - if it was completely dead or the USB died, it wouldn't matter if you had an RUU because you wouldn't be able to install it anyway.
Regards,
Dave

y2jdmbfan said:
I may bite the bullet tonight and try it out. I am using mine on AT&T in the USA anyways, so warranty work is out of the question.
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Just do it.
I have mine running on Rooted 2.73.405.66
Everything stock except it was rooted. Works great.

Hey, how did you root it on the stock?
Did you need to downgrade RUU?
I know I had too... could you make a ROM for all the people that want the stock..

If you want to go back to Telus 2.1 here's the link to the rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8853070&postcount=13

mstroe said:
If you want to go back to Telus 2.1 here's the link to the rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8853070&postcount=13
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This link brinngs me to a China rom... A bit far from Telus!! Is there another link available for the 2.1 Original Telus rom?
Thanks-

[Q] Benefits and downsides of rooting

So I was thinking to root my phone but then i read that official froyo is coming soon so i might wait but will sometime update to gingerbread when a good rom comes out. So i was wonderign is overclocking dangerous and can it brick ur phone? ALso do the roms have finnish language? And wtf does nandroid back up mean and sd card back up and titanium backup? And can I unroot easily and use official rom on a rooted phone? I know i probably could have found all this stuff somewhere but really cant understand any of that **** so if sum1 could explain it to me So to sum up Should i root? ty

dud3me said:
So I was thinking to root my phone but then i read that official froyo is coming soon so i might wait but will sometime update to gingerbread when a good rom comes out. So i was wonderign is overclocking dangerous and can it brick ur phone? ALso do the roms have finnish language? And wtf does nandroid back up mean and sd card back up and titanium backup? And can I unroot easily and use official rom on a rooted phone? I know i probably could have found all this stuff somewhere but really cant understand any of that **** so if sum1 could explain it to me So to sum up Should i root? ty
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Well you can wait for official froyo and update, or you can install roms now when there are plenty of good froyo roms already, which become updated on the release of official froyo.
Overclocking can't brick your phone, don't set it to max as it becomes unstable. I duno about language, ask the devs. Nandroid = take a backup of your entire rom (phone memory), sd card back up is obvious, titanium backup = taking a backup of all your apps and settings and storing it on your sd card so you can restore it back.
Yes you can unroot by dling any RUU from www.shipped-roms/shipped/Buzz -> Connect phone to computer with usb debugging on and run the RUU which is an .exe file. Then root with unrevoked.

How do I know which RUU to pick? And wtf is clockwork mod? And radio?
And going to recovery? Anyway so would u guys recommend rooting?

dud3me said:
How do I know which RUU to pick? And wtf is clockwork mod? And radio?
And going to recovery? Anyway so would u guys recommend rooting?
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RUU picking is very simple just look for the version number 2.1.x eclair 2.2.x froyo
and pick the one u want.
Clockwork mod is a utility for installing the roms and make back-ups of ur current rom with all you settings and files and everything.
I would definitely recommend rooting your phone cuz it allows u to take the most out of ur phone overclocking, live wallpapers (depends on ROM) and lots of other stuff
Good luck deciding

dannystppls said:
RUU picking is very simple just look for the version number 2.1.x eclair 2.2.x froyo
and pick the one u want.
Clockwork mod is a utility for installing the roms and make back-ups of ur current rom with all you settings and files and everything.
I would definitely recommend rooting your phone cuz it allows u to take the most out of ur phone overclocking, live wallpapers (depends on ROM) and lots of other stuff
Good luck deciding
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Yeah but how do I know which RUU I had? And how do U get to this clockwork think and wtf is kernel? Also does rooting decrease ur battery life?

dud3me said:
Yeah but how do I know which RUU I had? And how do U get to this clockwork think and wtf is kernel? Also does rooting decrease ur battery life?
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Oops i accidentally clicked the thanks button for you. LOL
Check which software version is. Usually in Menu -> About phone (or something similar). If the RUU of your version is not there, i would recommend dling a similar one to yours, or a WWE one. To go to clockworkmod (recovery menu). Hold down trackpad and press power button to turn on phone. This is where you can flash new roms, kernels etc (by going to Install zip from sd card). Kernels are ... special thingies for your phone that make it awesome, like Jacob's overclock kernel.
No rooting does not decrease your battery life, i wonder where you got that from :|

kevin2516 said:
Oops i accidentally clicked the thanks button for you. LOL
Check which software version is. Usually in Menu -> About phone (or something similar). If the RUU of your version is not there, i would recommend dling a similar one to yours, or a WWE one. To go to clockworkmod (recovery menu). Hold down trackpad and press power button to turn on phone. This is where you can flash new roms, kernels etc (by going to Install zip from sd card). Kernels are ... special thingies for your phone that make it awesome, like Jacob's overclock kernel.
No rooting does not decrease your battery life, i wonder where you got that from :|
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Lol I clicked ur thanks button coz u've actually helped me So does it matter where on the sd i install roms etc? U need kernell to overclock? So does overclocking boost the performance of the phone?

dud3me said:
Lol I clicked ur thanks button coz u've actually helped me So does it matter where on the sd i install roms etc? U need kernell to overclock? So does overclocking boost the performance of the phone?
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Hi, you have to copy the ROM's to the sdcard path, not in a folder.
You need an overclock kernel to overclock if you have a ROM wich doesn't have it. Usually, the Custom ROM's you can find on xda already have overclock kernels, so you don't have to flash one. If you want to overclock the stock HTC ROM, you will flash a new kernel.
Overclocking definitely improves the performance of the phone. You don't need to set it to 768 MHZ instead of the original 518. With just 576 (or less) for example, there is a big difference!

antonio1475 said:
Hi, you have to copy the ROM's to the sdcard path, not in a folder.
You need an overclock kernel to overclock if you have a ROM wich doesn't have it. Usually, the Custom ROM's you can find on xda already have overclock kernels, so you don't have to flash one. If you want to overclock the stock HTC ROM, you will flash a new kernel.
Overclocking definitely improves the performance of the phone. You don't need to set it to 768 MHZ instead of the original 518. With just 576 (or less) for example, there is a big difference!
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sdcard path? lol I really don't understand anything What about the radios? what do they do? And btw i coulnd't find buzz/wildfire RUU from shipped roms ANd when I root and if i don't install any rom will it just use the stock rom?

And do i need to install titanium back up and the nandroid thing before i root?

The ROM can be placed anywhere, on the root of the sd card, or in a folder. doesn't matter. all you do to flash it is go to 'Install zip from sd card' and then select the rom.
You can only install titanium backup after you root, and you can only do nandroid backups via clockworkmod (recovery) which is available when you root (using unrevoked).

dud3me said:
sdcard path? lol I really don't understand anything What about the radios? what do they do? And btw i coulnd't find buzz/wildfire RUU from shipped roms ANd when I root and if i don't install any rom will it just use the stock rom?
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1. SDCARD: I mean just in the sdcard, not in a folder inside the sd card.
2. Do not care about the Radio. The cooked ROM's will usually work. The Radio ROM contains the drivers for the communication devices of your phone. Some ROM's need one or more specific Radio ROM's to work properly. Usually the chef, who created the ROM recommends a Radio ROM. But don't mind, if your Radio Rom does not match, you can always flash another without needing to flash the ROM containing the Operating System (OS) again.
3. http://www.shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Buzz (You will ask which one you have to download, tell me where are you from)
4. When you root, you can keep using the stock ROM, but rooted (so privileges). You don't need to flash another ROM if you don't want to

antonio1475 said:
1. SDCARD: I mean just in the sdcard, not in a folder inside the sd card.
2. Do not care about the Radio. The cooked ROM's will usually work. The Radio ROM contains the drivers for the communication devices of your phone. Some ROM's need one or more specific Radio ROM's to work properly. Usually the chef, who created the ROM recommends a Radio ROM. But don't mind, if your Radio Rom does not match, you can always flash another without needing to flash the ROM containing the Operating System (OS) again.
3. http://www.shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Buzz (You will ask which one you have to download, tell me where are you from)
4. When you root, you can keep using the stock ROM, but rooted (so privileges). You don't need to flash another ROM if you don't want to
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I will ask you which one i need to download and i'll there you were I'm from - I'm from finland it's unbranded and just downloaded hte latest ota 1.37 something. So should i do this: I wayt till the official froyo comes (like a week) and update to it and then root and over clock but use the stock rom. Or should I root now and then unroot and update? TY

I dont think froyo is going to come out any time soon so u can forget about waiting a week for it
Srry dude
Sent from my wildfire using XDA App

dud3me said:
I will ask you which one i need to download and i'll there you were I'm from - I'm from finland it's unbranded and just downloaded hte latest ota 1.37 something. So should i do this: I wayt till the official froyo comes (like a week) and update to it and then root and over clock but use the stock rom. Or should I root now and then unroot and update? TY
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I would like to do what you are saying. Wait until the official Froyo expected for soon release and then root and flash an overclock kernel.
Do what you need. If you can wait "the week" (I hope...), wait.
But wait. I don't know what you want to do. Do you want to install Froyo now, just rooting you 2.1 stock ROM, or what?

dannystppls said:
I dont think froyo is going to come out any time soon so u can forget about waiting a week for it
Srry dude
Sent from my wildfire using XDA App
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I read from some french site, that it's estimated arrival is 13.12 so yeah.

antonio1475 said:
I would like to do what you are saying. Wait until the official Froyo expected for soon release and then root and flash an overclock kernel.
Do what you need. If you can wait "the week" (I hope...), wait.
But wait. I don't know what you want to do. Do you want to install Froyo now, just rooting you 2.1 stock ROM, or what?
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I think ill wait for the froyo to come and then root. And i probably won't root now coz u need to unroot to install the official update right? And btw which RUU I need from shipped roms to unroot?

dud3me said:
I read from some french site, that it's estimated arrival is 13.12 so yeah.
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I've read too, but we'll see the real arrival time, because Vodafone is releasing before, and Legend has just started. HTC said Wildfire updates will arrive when Legend are done, so I don't know when it will arrive.
I hope it's soon!!

dud3me said:
I think ill wait for the froyo to come and then root. And i probably won't root now coz u need to unroot to install the official update right? And btw which RUU I need from shipped roms to unroot?
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I use the 1.37 to have the stock ROM. I will flash this one to be able to update official Froyo.

antonio1475 said:
I use the 1.37 to have the stock ROM. I will flash this one to be able to update official Froyo.
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ok,but is it really safe to overclock, I mean can ur phone explode and stuff?
And how can i get the orginal kernell back? By unrooting?

Just got Samsung Vibrant!! How do I update to 2.2 Stock? Help please.

Hello.
I just got this phone, and it is UNLOCKED and stock 2.1 on it.
I would like to update to the official 2.2 and keep the unlocked, can someone point me to the right direction and tell me how that will be done?
I heard the 2.2 is not out officially, but it is leaked, so that leaked version is the full 2.2 stock or something missing?
I heard something about rooting, flashing, but I am not sure what that means as I just got this phone.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800636

root the phone 1st then download rom manager then pick a rom eugene's , sombionix, or master are all good read up on them and then pick one
down load it on to your computer then load into the internal sd card then reboot in to recovery or through clockwork (rom manager) and load it up.. If you can't follow read up on the sticky's in this forum it explains way better.........

Look in here for all your needs and tools that you'll want to get started on getting Root, ClockworkMod Recovery and a Custom Rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
Look in here for all the different Roms. (ie Android 2.1 roms or Android 2.2 roms)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=711
Just like oka1 said, you need to root your device first. Then get rom manager from the market and install clockworkmod recovery through it. When your done with that download any rom you want and put it on your Internal Memory (Phone Storage) on the root of it. Then flash through Clockworkmod. Hope its enough. ;D

Words are sounding very complicated, but I am sure its not just need to learn how to do the steps....
Also the 2.2 will fix GPS, and have Full Flash browser right?
Can I use this to root? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739300
Also if I brick this phone as I am new at it, can it be recovered?
And where do I find the stock 2.2, please?
Thanks.

Look in the development forum or use search. It's all there, and trivial to find.

My signature should teach you everything you need.
for the rom, go to the development section... There is a sticky called the bible. It has everything.
I personally would flash nero v3 (not the beta 3). Most on here agree it's amazing.
Also, Vibrant's are REALLY hard to brick... Worst case you can use odin to get back to stock 2.1. Thid is also covered in my signature.
Now, with all that said... Samsung promised froyo by year end. You may want to wait a few days (I'd still take nero over an ota, just giving you all the information. They may not deliver)

awaisuk said:
Words are sounding very complicated, but I am sure its not just need to learn how to do the steps....
Also the 2.2 will fix GPS, and have Full Flash browser right?
Can I use this to root? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739300
Also if I brick this phone as I am new at it, can it be recovered?
And where do I find the stock 2.2, please?
Thanks.
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I would just leave it factory cause I see this ending in a soft brick and you freaking otu thinking you ruined your phone when you didnt

Learn how to use Odin FIRST, then learn how to root, then learn how to flash, all of this is covered somewhere in this forum.....search a little and you'll be flashing in no time.
Sent from THE Vibrant......

The newest and greatest is Nero 3 by team whiskey, its a custom 2.2, but with a gingerbread (2.3) feel and look. They have been at it for a a while and this is a wonderful rom. Check out my thread in this (vibrant general) forum for links and all the tips you need just ask.
I'd love to help.

Canada just got the official 2.2 Froyo update. Can't you just use that download?

Thank you for your replies, I am reading the guides now and hopefully everything works out.
Can someone please tell me does 2.2 have full flash browser?

Noob questions.

Hi, so I've been reading the forums for a while, trying to figure out how to root my DHD correctly, as well as installing a custom ROM..
I have Software Number 1.37.771.3
I assume this does not need to be downgraded, but just want assurance. Alll the downgrades need to be from 1.72.XXX.X
What is the most popular custom ROM to install?
What does flashing new radios do? And are they necessary?
What does S-Off do?
How will I be able to install my stock ROM back once I install a custom rom?
I know some of these question can be found by searching, but some parts are not clear to me.
Thanks.

Hiya, 1.37 does not need to be downgraded so you CAN root that.
The most popular roms I believe are either ARHD or rcmix hd (but it is down to personal preference, some roms give you things some others don't/can't)
Once you install a custom rom, sometimes you need to install a different radio to get better battery life, gps signal etc etc.
Radio s-off gives you the ability to install a custom Rom on Ur dhd, I'm not sure if its true but I think it is a MUST if you wanna install a Rom.
Eng s-off is needed to flash a radio, but you only have to have eng s-off if you wanna flash a radio.
You can just radio s-off to install a custom Rom and not have to have eng s-off to install a radio.
You can get back to stock by flashing the branded/unbranded ruu through your computer (its easier that way, I had trouble doing it through SD card last night,just run the exe. File through computer and follow the commands) , it will get rid of custom Rom, eng s-off, custom recovery and root all in one go, so all you need to do after is temp root and radio s-on, and you should be back to stock. Or you can do a nandroid backup (someone jump in cos not too clear on this point either)
If anyone wants to jump in and say if I got it wrong please do, but that's what I done last night.
Is your handset branded by any chance mate?
Cos what I done last night was flash the WWE unbranded Rom and now I'm unbranded, cos I used to be branded by vodafone, now all the vodafone crap and stuff has gone from mine.
Oh also you might wanna check before you start whether u can get your hands on a branded Rom cos if you have trouble with handset and need to send it back then your gonna wanna get it completely back to normal.
Anyway hope this helped and if you need anything there's lots of people on here that will help you as best they can.
Good luck ;-)
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

The most popular ROM is probably either LeeDroid HD, Android Revolution HD or CyanogenMod
Flashing a different radio is not usually required but can give you better performance.
S-off lets you install custom ROMs of your DHD, you cant flash a radio and Im pretty sure you cant flash a ROM without S-off.
The stock ROM (version 1.32.405.6) can be downloaded from CyanogenMods downloads page. Link
This might be useful too. Link
Also HTC Ace was the codename for the Desire HD so if you see HTC Ace anywhere its the right phone.

ARHD 3.5 has just been released.

This was exactly the thread I was looking for, I've been reading these forums for the last week trying to get my head around all the information. Im guessing once you understand all the procedures it starts coming a bit more naturally, doing my first flash tomorrow

Rawrpaw said:
This was exactly the thread I was looking for, I've been reading these forums for the last week trying to get my head around all the information. Im guessing once you understand all the procedures it starts coming a bit more naturally, doing my first flash tomorrow
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Good luck mate, I did my first one last week, it was nerve wracking lol some people like me need a little more help and clarification from more knowledgeable members on here.
But we all in the same boat innit, just don't start too many threads on it cos you'll end up getting a warning like me, it was harsh but I'm gonna have to accept it looool anyways good luck and if u need any help just ask.
And make sure you follow all the steps to the point, cos you could end up with some unrectifiable problems ;-)
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

dazza_84 said:
You can get back to stock by flashing the branded/unbranded ruu through your computer (its easier that way, I had trouble doing it through SD card last night,just run the exe. File through computer and follow the commands) , it will get rid of custom Rom, eng s-off, custom recovery and root all in one go, so all you need to do after is temp root and radio s-on, and you should be back to stock. Or you can do a nandroid backup (someone jump in cos not too clear on this point either)
If anyone wants to jump in and say if I got it wrong please do, but that's what I done last night.
Is your handset branded by any chance mate?
Cos what I done last night was flash the WWE unbranded Rom and now I'm unbranded, cos I used to be branded by vodafone, now all the vodafone crap and stuff has gone from mine.
Oh also you might wanna check before you start whether u can get your hands on a branded Rom cos if you have trouble with handset and need to send it back then your gonna wanna get it completely back to normal.
Anyway hope this helped and if you need anything there's lots of people on here that will help you as best they can.
Good luck ;-)
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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hi, thanks for the reply, what you said has helped
yeah, my phone is branded to three. will i be able to use a stock rom given by the person on post 3? or will i have to get a branded rom from three?
thanks

roshh said:
hi, thanks for the reply, what you said has helped
yeah, my phone is branded to three. will i be able to use a stock rom given by the person on post 3? or will i have to get a branded rom from three?
thanks
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It depends what you wanna do, if you wanna unbrand your phone use the WWE ruu, if you wanna return Ur phone back to the way it was then use a official 3 branded Rom, and as you know if you want a particular custom Rom then just flash one of those.
I got my WWE ruu from xmoo's thread, it has a whole list of different ruu versions, so just pick the one you want but I suggest going for the 1.32 xx3 cos you can still root that version if you wanted to.
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[Q] Upgrading back to Stock 2.3.4 while keeping S-Off and Rooted

Ok over the past 2 days I have searched over almost every single thread on the MY Touch 4g forums and can not seem to find a definite answer on this question:
Is there any way to take a rooted S-OFF, the Engineering HBoot & the ClockworkMod Recovery, 2.2.1 Stock build using the instructions on cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide and upgrade it back to the Stock t-mobile 2.3.4 build without unrooting etc?
I am not overly interested in installing cm7, although I did have a great experience with it on my t-mobile HD2 before the screen decided to stop working for the 2nd time. I actually did enjoy using the stock 2.3.4 build on the mt4g but would like to have more power over my phone (such as changing the hosts files to get rid of ads, remove bloatware apps I'm not interested in myself, etc).
All threads I have read more or less say once you downgrade, root and install clockwork recovery to install a rom of your choice, well I would like that rom to be the stock 2.3.4 build. Other threads state that in order to install the 2.3.4 build you need to install using the bootloader(which would unroot your phone) and not clockwork recovery.
If someone could please point me in the right direction to accomplish this goal you will seriously make my day/night/week/month.
If something is in the works that's great, I'm willing to wait it out. If this is a completely impossible goal so be it, I'll use CM7 mod.

kearnsy said:
Ok over the past 2 days I have searched over almost every single thread on the MY Touch 4g forums and can not seem to find a definite answer on this question:
Is there any way to take a rooted S-OFF, the Engineering HBoot & the ClockworkMod Recovery, 2.2.1 Stock build using the instructions on cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide and upgrade it back to the Stock t-mobile 2.3.4 build without unrooting etc?
I am not overly interested in installing cm7, although I did have a great experience with it on my t-mobile HD2 before the screen decided to stop working for the 2nd time. I actually did enjoy using the stock 2.3.4 build on the mt4g but would like to have more power over my phone (such as changing the hosts files to get rid of ads, remove bloatware apps I'm not interested in myself, etc).
All threads I have read more or less say once you downgrade, root and install clockwork recovery to install a rom of your choice, well I would like that rom to be the stock 2.3.4 build. Other threads state that in order to install the 2.3.4 build you need to install using the bootloader(which would unroot your phone) and not clockwork recovery.
If someone could please point me in the right direction to accomplish this goal you will seriously make my day/night/week/month.
If something is in the works that's great, I'm willing to wait it out. If this is a completely impossible goal so be it, I'll use CM7 mod.
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just flash the rooted rom of the MT4G 2.3.4 update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264704
not sure how you missed it lol...
flash the rooted version in this thread.
flash via CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY.
hit the thanks button if i've helped

Wow... Seriously... 2 days of looking and how the hell do I miss that.
Seriously thanks, but I blame the title of that thread "T-Mobile myTouch 4G GB Upgrade (Rooted & Unrooted)" Should be a Sticky and renamed to something like READ HERE TO UPGRADE TO 2.3.4 ROOT & UNROOTED
Sigh, but seriously thanks.

kearnsy said:
Wow... Seriously... 2 days of looking and how the hell do I miss that.
Seriously thanks, but I blame the title of that thread "T-Mobile myTouch 4G GB Upgrade (Rooted & Unrooted)" Should be a Sticky and renamed to something like READ HERE TO UPGRADE TO 2.3.4 ROOT & UNROOTED
Sigh, but seriously thanks.
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lol it's ok, everyone makes mistakes