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I have an Eris running 2.1 OTA. I want to be able to overclock it, which obviously requires root, but I do not want to install a custom ROM. I want to continue running 2.1 OTA. Is this possible?
Based on what I've read, I figured it might be.
1) I thought I could follow the instructions in "I. Gaining root" at the Walkthrough thread on this site to root the phone. Simply rooting does not modify or wipe the 2.1 OTA ROM, correct? So I could be root but still running 2.1 OTA.
2) Flash the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip found in the "Overclocking Patch and update.zip" thread on this site, which would modify the kernel so I can O/C.
3) Install and use setCPU.
Any reason this would not work or would be a bad idea? I'm generally computer savvy but have not rooted a phone before.
As mentioned above, I want to be running stock 2.1 OTA (or as close to it as possible, because I want the stability) simply with the ability to overclock.
Thanks!
Now someone here correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the way I understand the rooting process...
When you obtain root, you flash over your 2.1 OTA, and don't have that anymore. What you're flashing is a pre-rooted ROM with an old 2.1. You absolutely want to flash something else once you install the recovery image. If you want a ROM that's as close to stock OTA as possilble while still being able to overclock, I recommend this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044 (or, actually, this one is closer to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685581)
Also, ensure that you can root in the first place... check your HBOOT version.
If you were to only root, you'd no longer be running OTA, since the root is itself a leak.
jcase's Plain Jane is based on the OTA and is probably what you're looking for.
No, you cannot do that. Rooting isn't simply turning on a switch, it's replacing the entire ROM.
chrikenn said:
I have an Eris running 2.1 OTA. I want to be able to overclock it, which obviously requires root, but I do not want to install a custom ROM. I want to continue running 2.1 OTA. Is this possible?
Based on what I've read, I figured it might be.
1) I thought I could follow the instructions in "I. Gaining root" at the Walkthrough thread on this site to root the phone. Simply rooting does not modify or wipe the 2.1 OTA ROM, correct? So I could be root but still running 2.1 OTA.
2) Flash the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip found in the "Overclocking Patch and update.zip" thread on this site, which would modify the kernel so I can O/C.
3) Install and use setCPU.
Any reason this would not work or would be a bad idea? I'm generally computer savvy but have not rooted a phone before.
As mentioned above, I want to be running stock 2.1 OTA (or as close to it as possible, because I want the stability) simply with the ability to overclock.
Thanks!
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Plain Jane ROM posted on this Forum would be ideal then I think
Ok, thanks for the information. I didn't realize that rooting itself replaced the stock ROM.
If you gave me your phone, I could root it and hand it back to you and with the "right" ROM, you'd be none the wiser.
Why are you afraid to use a custom ROM ? Ivan's, for example, is essentially a tweaked version of HTC/VZW's current Eris ROM.
I'm afraid to use a custom ROM because my instinct is that a custom ROM would be less stable than the default 2.1 OTA. This is my wife's phone, so stability is key.
But the ROMs that are essentially the same as the 2.1 OTA would presumably be essentially just as stable as the 2.1 OTA, so maybe I will give it a whirl.
so i just got a replcemnt htc eris and it came w/the 2.1 already on it...so is there a way for me to get a custom rom on it????and if so what do i have to do
drayon07 said:
so i just got a replcemnt htc eris and it came w/the 2.1 already on it...so is there a way for me to get a custom rom on it????and if so what do i have to do
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684049
Can't install custom kernal without root and can't root without stock 1.5. No root for ota yet
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thanks but which one do i select because i already have the 2.1 on my phone and the link was mainly talking about putting it on there if you didnt have it
thanks but which one do i select because i already have the 2.1 on my phone and the link was mainly talking about putting it on there if you didnt have it
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You can't root because your phone has 2.1. Therefore you cannot use custom Rom or kernel. Sorry
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You can't root because your phone has 2.1. Therefore you cannot use custom Rom or kernel. Sorry
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Where have you been???? You can root 2.1 OTA, just not any of the leaks. The instructions are the same for 2.1 as for 1.5. Again, you can root 2.1 OTA just not the leaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681648
and that is just one of many threads talking about rooting the OTA
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Where have you been???? You can root 2.1 OTA, just not any of the leaks. The instructions are the same for 2.1 as for 1.5. Again, you can root 2.1 OTA just not the leaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681648
and that is just one of many threads talking about rooting the OTA
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Yes, the 2.1 OTA update is rootable. The 2.1 OTA update does not change the bootloader which allows for rooting.
However, those that got a refurbished device from Verizon with 2.1 may or may not be able to root. It has been said that some of the refurbished units have come back with the newer non-rootable bootloader.
There is an entire thread about this at the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688898
I would like to remind ppl, because many of you didn't think about...
If you will apply, 2.1 OTA update, on your 1.5, you will LOOSE ability to root. Don't be fools, and wait until you get "official" rooted 2.1, then flash it by yourself.
Please someone make it more clear if possible...
...But 2.1 official cannot be rooted, after update.
So turn off your Update check on your phone, and wait until there will be 2.1 rooted.
P.S
Looks like there is possibility to downgrade from OTA 2.1!! Omg
May I ask why HEOR upgraded to official 2.1 OTA couldn't be rooted??
It is temporary unable or permanently??
Can you substantiate this claim? Proof that the instantroot method (using the package installer's privileges) does not work on 2.1 for instance?
@iholleh
It's not possible to root at the moment, it could be quite a while before someone figures out how to root it if its already on a device, however if its looked at enough I'm sure they will do it. when its officially released it will be rooted very quickly to be flashed as a zip.
good to know...thanks for hte info!
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Can you substantiate this claim? Proof that the instantroot method (using the package installer's privileges) does not work on 2.1 for instance?
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The problem is you can't say one way or the other.. so if root is important to you then you are better off waiting.
Sent from my HTC Hero
Wezternator said:
@iholleh
It's not possible to root at the moment, it could be quite a while before someone figures out how to root it if its already on a device, however if its looked at enough I'm sure they will do it. when its officially released it will be rooted very quickly to be flashed as a zip.
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Thx bro! I just upgraded to 2.1 OTA and trying to downgrade to 1.5, failed however...
Wait for good news
I think we need to make clear. What to do if.
I installed the first package (First OTA, PART 1, Youtube App update)?
Like I heard in develop, if I installed part 1 update, this stupid youtube update, i need downgrade.
I don't really understand why, and how to do that. I think many of noobs like me are interested, what to do now.
I have promted by my phone that 2.1 update is realeased, and I did not downlnoad it, because I would like to have root, to install in a future Android 2.2, etc.
If so, and i have Firmware build number 2.73.405.93, or 2.73.405.94, or 2.73.405.95. What should I do?
Please someone, write step by step action guide.
(Downgrade, root, install rooted 2.1?) If so, how exactly?
I also understand that, there is 100000000000 of guides out there, but IMHO we need new one for a while.
Situation with "not installed" OTA part 1 is little bit easier? Normal ROOT, and install for coocked, and rooted official 2.1?
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The problem is you can't say one way or the other.. so if root is important to you then you are better off waiting.
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I guess so, but how likely is it that the hero's 2.1 firmware is different in this regard from anything else? A quick google confirmed that the InstantRoot method works on nexus one and motorola droid.
Edit: But a little longer google had me wondering if it does work on 2.1 again. Sorry, I should check more carefully. If anyone has tried it do step up.
Check out dev. section. Looks like there is way to downgrade.
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shadow_fi said:
Check out dev. section. Looks like there is way to downgrade.
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Correct, just run the RUU
can confirm, this works ...
What if I want to root it up to 2.2 (Froyo) that would be fine because it is like you are upgrading to newer firmware?
Hi i just have a stupid question :
i'm quite lost with all the stuffs about the 2.1 update :
i have a 1.5 stock rooted rom on my hero.
i would like to update to 2.1 but keep the root thing.
and i want not to wipe my phone
So what i undestand is :
- if i update : i'm not root anymore and won't be able to do it with the 2.1
- if i want to be 2.1+root i have to use a full rom (rooted) to have both but i have to wipe my phone.
Is that right ?
Is there or will it be a way to have an update (not wiping phone), in 2.1, and with root maintained from my 1.5 ??
Thanx for help.. i don't what to do with this ota update...
Ciao
Fred
frederikk said:
Hi i just have a stupid question :
i'm quite lost with all the stuffs about the 2.1 update :
i have a 1.5 stock rooted rom on my hero.
i would like to update to 2.1 but keep the root thing.
and i want not to wipe my phone
So what i undestand is :
- if i update : i'm not root anymore and won't be able to do it with the 2.1
- if i want to be 2.1+root i have to use a full rom (rooted) to have both but i have to wipe my phone.
Is that right ?
Is there or will it be a way to have an update (not wiping phone), in 2.1, and with root maintained from my 1.5 ??
Thanx for help.. i don't what to do with this ota update...
Ciao
Fred
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No... You are going to have to root.
But you can just back-up with something like MyBackUp-Pro
Ok but i silo bave to root what? The 2.1 updated phone? But i understood or is not possible yet ? For the backup dors à android one is ok?
Thanx
Ciao
Fred
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andrewb84uk said:
Correct, just run the RUU
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what do you meen visit dev section?what is dev section?thanks.
frederikk said:
Ok but i will bave to root what ? The 2.1 updated phone? But i understood or is not possible yet ? For the backup dors à android one is ok?
Thanx
Ciao
Fred
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I think i don't understand.
I'm with 1.5 rooted phone. If i update, i will be with a 2.1 phone non rooted. But is it possible to root the 2.1 ? I already have the boot menu with ramon ra recovery. So the update won't touch it ?
But in fact i change the date to june 2011 on my phone yesterday.. and i have no update notification
Ciao
Fred
shadow_fi said:
I would like to remind ppl, because many of you didn't think about...
If you will apply, 2.1 OTA update, on your 1.5, you will LOOSE ability to root. Don't be fools, and wait until you get "official" rooted 2.1, then flash it by yourself.
Please someone make it more clear if possible...
...But 2.1 official cannot be rooted, after update.
So turn off your Update check on your phone, and wait until there will be 2.1 rooted.
P.S
Looks like there is possibility to downgrade from OTA 2.1!! Omg
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I might be out of subject and truely I know nothing about rooting but I know by fact that downgrading from official 2.1 to official 1.5 took about 15 minutes to proceed on my unlocked Hero today..
I recently aquired the Vibrant and all I have to say is OMG this is a fnatastic phone. it blows my cliq, cliq xt, and g1 out of the water.
Anywho, the one question I have now that my phone is rooted and has the clockworkmod recovery is when the 2.2 update releases around september-ish, will this effect the phone being able to update like it did for the cliq, or will i be able to flash 2.2 from root and just lose root. i would be ok with it at that point because 2.2 takes care of all the issues that i have with 2.1 update1. the only reason i know this is because i have 2.2 on the g1 and its amazing. any thlughts on the matter?
once rooted on this phone, you have to wait for one of the devs to dump a 2.2 flashable rom to get the update. This is why I am gladly waiting to get the ota before considering rooting. I love the phone as it is.
chucky80 said:
once rooted on this phone, you have to wait for one of the devs to dump a 2.2 flashable rom to get the update. This is why I am gladly waiting to get the ota before considering rooting. I love the phone as it is.
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yeah but I heard that if you just root only, you will be able to get the OTA update as you are still using the stock ROM. But if you are using a modified dev ROM, then yeah it will not auto update.
Can anyone confirm this?
boodies said:
yeah but I heard that if you just root only, you will be able to get the OTA update as you are still using the stock ROM. But if you are using a modified dev ROM, then yeah it will not auto update.
Can anyone confirm this?
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Yes this is the case, if all you do is root the phone, you will still get Tmobile updates. You might lose root, but as was pointed out in a similar thread, Samsung doesn't seem to care about locking things up, so you should be able to root again easily.
ok so its more in line with what the g1 used to do if you didnt go onto a modified rom. with the cliq, even if you root and are on the stock rom, you still cant load the ota update because it fails when you try to load it once downloaded. i dont mind losing root once 2.2 comes out, i just want to make sure i can get it. i was thinking of going back to stock without root, but i'm having some trouble getting the phone in download mode
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Yes this is the case, if all you do is root the phone, you will still get Tmobile updates. You might lose root, but as was pointed out in a similar thread, Samsung doesn't seem to care about locking things up, so you should be able to root again easily.
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Thanks for the input. Has this been the case for any other phone? Where rooting only will still get you OTA updates, or is this a theory?
Thanks~
im trying to flash the new 2.2.1 when i get:
Lots of code
Error in /sdcard/update.zip
(status 7)
Installation Aborted
Can anyone help?
have you stock recovery? also have you removed any apps from the phone..?
if you do gotta push the back in to system/app
You're on Vodafone UK, and I presume you got the phone from them? If so, their version of FRF91 is not upgradable to FRG83 (at the moment). If you don't want to wait, then installed the FRG33 passimg and it will get an OTA update to FRG83.
its alright, i found that the new 2.2.1 is running on the latest nightlies (Y)
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also have you removed any apps from the phone..?
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hehe. That explains why I could never get the 2.2.1 OTA to work. I got rid of the damn twitter app and the awful default calculator (RealCalc FTW). Oh well. I'm on CM6 now and aside from lower battery life, I have no regrets.
hi root 2.2.1
please please root android 2.2.1 actuallize androot to works with it im dying without root¡¡¡¡
Use the rageagainstthecage exploit, it's not difficult at all.
Will there ever be one click root for the 2.2.1 update. I had the one click root before the update and unrooted my phone to get the update. After the update obviously the one click root no longer works. Now I'm stuck with an unrooted Nexus One, not enough experience to go out and root it and download the cyanogenmod 6 RC3 download. I want that more then anything. Saw some tapes of it and have to have it. I guess I will have to do some studying on the entire process and go from there. Any help and point in the right direction would help. Thank You
Vinny
Nexus One & New G2
Wait for Paul to update his Superboot (Google it) program. It's almost as easy as 1-click.
Needs an unlocked bootloader though, exactly what one click users don't want.
Does anyone know when unrEVOked will be able to find a root for the Wildfire on 2.2.1? I hope they find it soon. From how much they've been delaying it seems like they just don't want to even try. Should I disable the Search online for updates feature so my phone stops updating?
* They will release it when they want to. We have no option or control over them. If they want to try, it is their wish, if they don't want to try, again it is their wish. Live with it.
* If you are already on 2.2.1, there's no point disabling search for updates because it is extremely unlikely there will be any.
*Sigh*, why cant you read already existing threads before creating another one? Is it too hard?
omfg! seems like you have disabled search function for this forum, this topic gets posted at least once a day
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Does anyone know when unrEVOked will be able to find a root for the Wildfire on 2.2.1? I hope they find it soon. From how much they've been delaying it seems like they just don't want to even try. Should I disable the Search online for updates feature so my phone stops updating?
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just re rooted my wildfire on froyo
chubby65 said:
just re rooted my wildfire on froyo
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How did you do this ?
I was told that if we make a new thread everyday about it they will update it!!
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How did you do this ?
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when i got the phone it was on 2.1 but did'nt want to wait for froyo so rooted using unrevoked and installed the wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1 then tried the stock rom thought i screwed up when i read the forums and discovered root was not availiable for froyo first i checked hboot version on my phone discovered that it was 0.80.0003 then i installed the wildpuzzle rom back onto the sd card rebooted phone in recovery mode and installed rom from sd card rebooted and waited for it to restart now have root back on wildfire not sure if it will work on the new hboot tho
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when i got the phone it was on 2.1 but did'nt want to wait for froyo so rooted using unrevoked and installed the wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1 then tried the stock rom thought i screwed up when i read the forums and discovered root was not availiable for froyo first i checked hboot version on my phone discovered that it was 0.80.0003 then i installed the wildpuzzle rom back onto the sd card rebooted phone in recovery mode and installed rom from sd card rebooted and waited for it to restart now have root back on wildfire not sure if it will work on the new hboot tho
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WildPuzzle 2.2.1 (Or rather, ANY custom ROM), removes the updated HBOOT. So, obviously, 2.2.1 will be rootable in such cases.
3xeno said:
WildPuzzle 2.2.1 (Or rather, ANY custom ROM), removes the updated HBOOT. So, obviously, 2.2.1 will be rootable in such cases.
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so using a custom rom over the top of a stock 2.2.1 as i did makes the wildfire rootable again?
chubby65 said:
so using a custom rom over the top of a stock 2.2.1 as i did makes the wildfire rootable again?
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No. You will not be able to use a Custom ROM over Stock 2.2.1 because installing a Custom ROM requires root.
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No. You will not be able to use a Custom ROM over Stock 2.2.1 because installing a Custom ROM requires root.
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dont know how i managed it but thats what i've done
If I understood what you said, then I dont think you have installed the official 2.2.1 update. I cant see that anywhere in your post. (Saying you applied the official 2.2.1 update).
When you went back to the Stock ROM, it was still at 2.1, which is why the HBOOT was still at 0.80. To install the official update, from the Stock ROM, you would have to accept the OTA Update, and then install it, which I don't think you did.
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If I understood what you said, then I dont think you have installed the official 2.2.1 update. I cant see that anywhere in your post. (Saying you applied the official 2.2.1 update).
When you went back to the Stock ROM, it was still at 2.1, which is why the HBOOT was still at 0.80. To install the official update, from the Stock ROM, you would have to accept the OTA Update, and then install it, which I don't think you did.
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when i went back to the stock rom it was deffo 2.2.1 i put the wildpuzzle rom straight over the top of it
Not possible. There is some error in communication somewhere, but, if it were possible to directly put Custom ROMs over the official 2.2.1, we wouldnt have had threads like this everyday.
unless after you rooted and flashed, you then installed a ruu then updated you did not have 2.2. when you went back did you restore a nandroid backup?
you are able to install ota update on rooted phone
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unless after you rooted and flashed, you then installed a ruu then updated you did not have 2.2. when you went back did you restore a nandroid backup?
you are able to install ota update on rooted phone
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no back up all i know is that after i updated i had no root on the wildfire and on 2.2 now after putting wildpuzzle rom over the top of it i now haved a rooted wildfire again
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no back up all i know is that after i updated i had no root on the wildfire and on 2.2 now after putting wildpuzzle rom over the top of it i now haved a rooted wildfire again
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Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD
Bewz said:
Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD
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tell me how to share and i will
Bewz said:
Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD
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this is the rom i used to get the 2.2 upgrade http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LF2TWEHJ
But isn't it possible to modify oryginal rom from HTC to downgrade HBOOT , and then make Wildfire rootable? Or make some crash in HBOOT witch will allow to root? That's a lot of ways, is it possible that HTC make Wildfire really unrootable on 2,2,1? That they make unlockable bootloader? Like a motorola?