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Android 2.1 In June?!

Just found this online:
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...confirms-another-delay-to-hero-upgrade-684928
Looks like we won't be getting Eclair until June now. So damn annoying. Ah well, let's just hope it's worth the wait. For now I'm just happy I'm using custom ROMs.

SHIZZLE!!!!!!!!

what a bad joke. well, as we expected a LONG time ago: HTC just wants to see some more HTC Desire/ HTC Legend sales. And judging by the topics in this board, they succeed.
The Update is done, they can't tell me that they have the Legend Rom up and running, but don't have the Hero Update yet. But they won't release it until they are satisfied with the new devices initial sales.
This is really a bad practice, and another reason why getting an Nexus One makes more sense...

Yeah, that's pretty much gonna do it for me. If the Desire is fully rooted by the time I can afford one/it's available in Canada, Imma get one of those. If not, an N1.

Okay.. is this one of those speculations/rumors..?

More delays... just great!
I was holding out for the official update but after reading this I reckon I might as well just test some custom 2.1 ROMs out.
SenseHero 2.1 here I come

I'm really tired of those delays.
And in June they will say that they won't release 2.1 because Froyo is almost finished

Sod it! Bored of waiting so flashed Villain 5.2. So far so good. Seems like the best 2.1 I've tried yet. Having said that I was quite happy with MCR 3.2, but new Google Maps with nav tempted me.

N1 for me baby! well when I get a free upgrade in a few months!

How can you use your free upgrade to upgrade to a phone only available through google?
Unless you plan on selling your update and buying an N1?

Lennyuk said:
How can you use your free upgrade to upgrade to a phone only available through google?
Unless you plan on selling your update and buying an N1?
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nailed it on the head sir, shall get a desire and sell it to fund a N1 !

Honestly, FU HTC - it is sureley the last device I buy from you!
Even Nokia phones do get updates more regulary than this buggy piece. I paid 500€ for this device and have to stick with a one year old SW? WTF?
I'll go for a custom ROM. Seems that some homebrew part time hackers are able to build better and newer ROMs over the weekend, than the whole HTC R&D departement. That's how you show skills! Well, better luck next time (Motorola or Apple will do it for me).
And yes, I'm pissed!

I'm fed up with this... everytime they 'say' they'll release the update, they always delay it. TBH, we'll be lucky if we get it by the end of the year. Damn it, I'll just root my phone

I wont be purchasing another HTC phone again. Nexus two please Google!

You guys seem to be forgetting who makes the N1. Granted it's only the hardware but still...

Haha HTC makes the Nexus too! So buying that wont hurt HTC that much

axellink said:
I wont be purchasing another HTC phone again. Nexus two please Google!
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And don't you dare to choose HTC as the manufacturer for your next Superphone...

It is frustrating, and with the rate that they churn out new 'phones it's hardly surprising that we've been left out in the cold.
For me, the new iPhone is certainly tempting. They're reportedly only now about to drop software updates for the original iPhone, and that's a few years old now. With multi-tasking it finally becomes a smart phone rather than a toy so I may well be heading in that direction.

twonk said:
It is frustrating, and with the rate that they churn out new 'phones it's hardly surprising that we've been left out in the cold.
For me, the new iPhone is certainly tempting. They're reportedly only now about to drop software updates for the original iPhone, and that's a few years old now. With multi-tasking it finally becomes a smart phone rather than a toy so I may well be heading in that direction.
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only the newest of the iphones can multi-task though.
It took them a long time to even get copy and paste features.
HTC has given us more updates than apple has, they just have not jumped up to the next version yet.
Htc did the worlds first 3g phone? worlds first 4g phone? they are always at the forefront of what's going on. Just because there is a slight delay in releasing 2.1 for Hero (because they quite rightly want money! its a business afteral) people think they are crap.

Lennyuk said:
only the newest of the iphones can multi-task though.
It took them a long time to even get copy and paste features.
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Yes, I'm considering the next iteration of the iPhone, whatever it may be called, not a 3GS. What I'm saying is that iphone OS 4.0 is *finally* looking to be a feature rich smartphone OS and so the iPhone is worth considering.
Anyway, this is heading off topic. Let's get back to complaining how long it's taken HTC to update the Hero.

Why Nexus One Was Leapfrogged by HTC Incredible and Evo 4G

Google Exec Hints at Why Nexus One Was Leapfrogged by HTC Incredible, Evo 4G
http://googlewatch.eweek.com/content/android_vs_iphone/google_exec_hints_at_why_nexus_one_was_leapfrogged_by_htc_incredible_evo_4g.html
"Nexus One isn't a failure so much as a casualty of the success of the next wave of Android smartphones. In a few months, I'm sure we'll be saying the same things about the Incredible and the Evo 4G."
Some people may be bothered with this, but I am happy with my Nexus One. I have no buyers remorse.

I don't view my N1 as obsolete in any way at all and am quite happy with it, it's no worse than the Incredible and all aspects of the device ooze performance

phones are starting to become like computers now. as soon as you buy one a new and better one comes out tomorrow.
and what sucks about is...you're suck with a 2 year contract.

So adding two features equals "leapfrogged" now?
What a load of crap. Who has FroYo now? Yeah, that's what I thought.

I always f*cking hate these posts. I really don't want to hear doom and gloom.

Definitely don't feel any remorse.
My phone is JUST as good as the ones that are coming out NOW.
Yea, 8MP cam + dual flash, but cmon, the pictures are hardly better.
Plus the nexus LOOKS better than both of those.

mortzz said:
So adding two features equals "leapfrogged" now?
What a load of crap. Who has FroYo now? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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SERIOUSLY, people are rediculous....... I stayed with DDR400 until DDR32000 came out because it was a serious step up...... There is nothing that screams "OH MY GOD INNOVATION" about either phone..... My next phone will be when my Nexus no longer has the NAND capacity for the current Android version. I love my Nexus

i'm with mortzz on this one. we have a phone that we can do whatever we want to do to it. i'd MUCH rather have this. i'm on the fence about the evo, but until we can get real system access (yeah, i saw the root article, but i'll believe it when i see it), custom ROM's, etc, i'll stick with the N1. which, btw, is STILL the sexiest phone i've ever seen. girl i'm seeing has the incredible, and...no thanks. not in comparison. it's a nice phone, if you have to have verizon. but, i don't
i do however have to get a sprint device. so...i may have to break contract with tmo and get the evo. otherwise, my school is going to stick me with the freaking touch pro 2 as my pager. lord what a step back that will be. but, at least if i take that, i can keep my N1

Uh. What?
Incredible and Evo won't get FroYo until the end of this year.
How about we come back to this article then so we can point and laugh?

Having root >>>> anything else.
Have any high-end phones since the Nexus achieved full root? I mean cracked bootloader and all. Desire, Legend, new Droids - none have the kind of access we do. Heck, we may have the best fully root-able hardware HTC will ever release.

I dont think the Incredible is any better than the N1, i've played witht he incredible and it feels cheap plastic like and the camera sucks as well. I like the feel of the N1 and like the looks of it. The Evo is a whole different story...

timothydonohue said:
i'm with mortzz on this one. we have a phone that we can do whatever we want to do to it. i'd MUCH rather have this. i'm on the fence about the evo, but until we can get real system access (yeah, i saw the root article, but i'll believe it when i see it), custom ROM's, etc, i'll stick with the N1. which, btw, is STILL the sexiest phone i've ever seen. girl i'm seeing has the incredible, and...no thanks. not in comparison. it's a nice phone, if you have to have verizon. but, i don't
i do however have to get a sprint device. so...i may have to break contract with tmo and get the evo. otherwise, my school is going to stick me with the freaking touch pro 2 as my pager. lord what a step back that will be. but, at least if i take that, i can keep my N1
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They have "root" meaning they have su permissions. AFAIK they don't have write permissions to the partitions, so it's pretty worthless.

Only thing i regret about my Nexus One is that apparently the Desire and Incredible both have touchscreens that fixed the multitouch issues.
Other than that the idea of having basically a google developement phone surpasses any of the other current phones, maybe when we see a decent hardware upgrade, then it will be a different story, but hopefully Google continues to make new Nexus phones.

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Only thing i regret about my Nexus One is that apparently the Desire and Incredible both have touchscreens that fixed the multitouch issues.
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The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg

Paul22000 said:
The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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That is sad. So they have the same MT issue as us, a much smaller dev front, usb-bricking issues while flashing roms, no full solution for being rooted/unlocked...took htc ages to release the kernel...they won't see froyo for ages (officially).
Not much to be ... wait for it... desired

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The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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How many points does a Galaxy register again? I'm guessing more than 2

In the UK, the N1/Desire is still the King. Desire = UK incredible, but is LITERALLY an N1, and I doubt we will ever see the Evo here [not even a whisp of 4g network].
Even if they did, all the incredible has is the less buggy touch matrix, although this has been nicely 'fixed' in froyo. The evo is a different breed of phone, id never buy it purely based on the fact that i like thinks to fit in my pocket xD
Until I see a snapgradon 1.3+, 1GB RAM, a TRUE 8mp+ cam, froyo, new gen OLED/better, my N1 can sleep with my girl any day.

that makes two of us i love man I LOVE MY NEXUS ONE

the video is @ livestream.com/disrupt/video?clipId=pla_cfa02640-01dd-4ac5-bba9-a2a2b0feee24

haha my friend was a tad jealous of me. he has the Hero and i like his sense ui. but the minute froyo came out, i installed it. i showed him how i can play hulu, i showed him that i got live wallpapers (of course he doesn't have 2.1) and the rest of the froyo goodness. and outta jealousy, he was like "oh well im gonna get a phone thats better than that. im give to get the Evo 4G that has everything the nexus one has and more, including Android 2.2" and i was like "riiiiight. just like the hero was supposed to (officially) get 2.1 right?" and he stood quiet lol idk about all of you guys but i don't really care for 2 led lights. im good with just one. as for 4G, i like to have the freedom to switch between my N1, my BB Curve 8310, and my iPhone 3GS with the simple swap of a SIM card so im great with my Sexy Nexy

Evo is too big!

Has anyone else noticed the Evo is way too big to be a phone? I'm glade i'm waiting for the next 4g phone. Who really wants to watch a movie on their phone? I just hope the Devs stay with the Hero!

bigupurself7 said:
Has anyone else noticed the Evo is way too big to be a phone? I'm glade i'm waiting for the next 4g phone. Who really wants to watch a movie on their phone? I just hope the Devs stay with the Hero!
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I agree. I handled the a dummy Evo yesterday at a Radio Shack, and it is half way to being a tablet. It would be nice to browse the web with that screen, but I already carry a ultralight laptop for that. I want the speed and processing power of the Evo, but in a form factor no bigger than my current hero.

I think a Sprint Nexus One would be the best compromise

the evo is a tad too big. any bigger and it'll be a droidpad. im staying with the hero for awhile. the only thing i like about the evo more than the hero is
1. 720p screen res
2. 8mp camera (5 is still awsome)
3. 1ghz snapdragon
4. 4g(which isnt all that great at the moment.
the hero is still a kickass phone

Yeah, that thing is like a brick in your pocket.

I just read the specs for the Hero 2 and it does not have the snapdragon or a faster processor. Sounds kinda lame, now I wish we were getting the N1.

What's wrong with Hero 1?

The problem is, it's not the latest and greatest anymore. Everyone, save a few, always want what's new and hot at the moment. As soon as the next phone comes out, all these people will be saying how much the EVO sucks in comparison.

bigupurself7 said:
I just read the specs for the Hero 2 and it does not have the snapdragon or a faster processor. Sounds kinda lame, now I wish we were getting the N1.
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Link? I can only find rumor posts from February.

After browsing the Evo forums and hearing of all the disappointing realizations that clears 4g is not all it's hyped up to be and real world speeds are hardly impressive more often than not i cant help but chuckle. Not to mention as the OP said that thing is like a 1/8 scale ipad! plus im not going to fork over $450 for the first 4g device that will inevitably have it's fair share of bugs more than it already has. And for such a big screen u would thing HTC would have at least implemented 256k colors at the minimum. I know AMOLEDs are a bit more expensive. Why the 65k cap? I bought the hero back in October when it first came out so my Premier upgrade isn't due til this October. Id rather wait until 4g gets developed further and coverage increases dramatically. Plus i've got my hero rooted, overclocked, customized and running like a dream. I can live without the extra 232 mhZ (im running 768mhZ) til something a bit more solid comes to the market. My hero and i have been thru a lot and it can still do just about everything the Evo can do just at slightly less speed and fashion but i'm perfectly content with that. But inevitably this forum will fade into the background as most forums do when a new device is released cuz everyone feels like they have to be part of the new phone bandwagon every time something better comes out. Just like cp0200 said the hero is a badass phone if u customize it just right. Hopefully a few devs will stick around

I picked my EVO up at 8:00 AM yesterday, and returned it around noon today. One of my reasons for returning it was the disappointing performance of 4G here in Kansas City. I get better, more consistent speeds with 3G. Another reason was the size of the thing. I agree with you all, it is too big. I think if they had gone with a 3.7 inch screen, it would have been the perfect size. Every time I handled it, I was afraid that I was going to drop it. These two things had me wanting my Hero back.

To be perfectly honest, I'm completely disappointed with the EVO. I don't have one, but I've played with my friends, and my Hero just feels so much more stable. It might be that I'm running Darchdroid, or it might be that I just like the phone more.
The EVO is wayyy too big. I want my phone to fit in my pocket comfortably.
The software is the same HTC Sense crap. Why can't Sprint get a good vanilla Android phone? I was so excited when I heard the Nexus One was coming to Sprint and soooo disappointed when I heard it was cancelled for the EVO. And now that the EVO is out, I'm even more upset. The Nexus One is the perfect size and is plenty fast for my taste.
I found out I earned my upgrade last month, but there is no way I'm going to use it on the EVO. The extra $10 a month, crappy 4G I've been hearing about, and just the general unappealing aesthetics of the phone are more than enough to make me never want one for myself. I love my Hero, and I'll love it until I can get a decent vanilla Android phone on Sprint. Or I'll terminate early and go to T-Mobile... I've already been offered to have my ETF covered by them.

DevinXtreme said:
Or I'll terminate early and go to T-Mobile... I've already been offered to have my ETF covered by them.
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If TMo's service wasn't so crappy where I live I would've stayed with them but obviously reliable service is more important than which carrier has the coolest phones

I dont think the EVO is too big, I think my Hero is too small when I can upgrade I will, I want a bigger touch screen, makes it easier to type IMO

assuming something better doesn't come out by october, that Evo will be hanging out in my back pocket (when it's not busy being worked hard in my hands), much the same way my Hero sits in my back pocket most of the time

That's what she said.

ripleys said:
I picked my EVO up at 8:00 AM yesterday, and returned it around noon today. One of my reasons for returning it was the disappointing performance of 4G here in Kansas City. I get better, more consistent speeds with 3G. Another reason was the size of the thing. I agree with you all, it is too big. I think if they had gone with a 3.7 inch screen, it would have been the perfect size. Every time I handled it, I was afraid that I was going to drop it. These two things had me wanting my Hero back.
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kc w00t w00t. kegs and eggs june 16th mumford and sons is playing 5am at firefly lounge. back on topic yea i really want the evo but i know something better will be out shortly. i may end up getting it anyway though

I agree with most of the comments here.
I checked one out here in Manhattan, and the 4G speeds were not too great.
It just feels way too big.
And someone commented before, it's the same 2.1 Sense ****. Feels laggy.
I am staying with Hero until the end of the year, then looking at my options.

The EVO is not too big. Your hands are too small
It is like a micro tablet computer, which is what I LOVE about it!!!
The thing is freakin awesome.

If you guys thing the EVO is too big, have you seen the Dell Streak specs?? It has a full 5 inch screen! And I want one of those too LOL

Is the Hero worth buying now?

SO.. as the title says... is the Hero worth buying now?
Also, I`ve read here about some problems with the touch screen that suddenly appear... is that a general issue or just some isolated incidents?

The phone is over a year old now, the CPU is a generation older than the other Android devices with the 1GHz Snapdragon processor. I'm sure the phone manufacturers are preparing the next generation devices for later in the year - making those phones obsolete.
If you're after a cheap device then you should be able to get a Hero second hand for a decent price. If you're willing to root and try new ROMs then there is still a decent community for the Hero - otherwise you'll be stuck on Android 2.1 if you stick with the official updates. The Hero is highly unlikely to get any more updates from HTC.
If your budget allows for a newer phone, then you'd be better off getting a more powerful Android device.

Thanks, I too think that it`s a little old, but it has a fairly good price, almost the same as Wildfire here, where I live, but that qvga screen on the Wildfire is a let down for me.

Alex~ is bang on, it is cheap,and the community on here is great, so if your gona be using custom roms then go for it. But I wouldn't like to say how many devs will still bother with us after Xmas.
If you can put up ur budget, do that.
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ddotpatel said:
Alex~ is bang on, it is cheap,and the community on here is great, so if your gona be using custom roms then go for it. But I wouldn't like to say how many devs will still bother with us after Xmas.
If you can put up ur budget, do that.
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Tru, there are better phones available if buying new, but it's more than competent if second hand.
I'll be about till May 2011 with my hero anyway, as my contract expires then. And even then, the hero is popular enough to merit continued support i reckin.

Hi I just bought one off eBay about a month old for £150 took a bit time to root and get used to Android, but worth it and its ok for price with lots of features. Although I think I now should have gone for HTC Legend?
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Not to mention that there is no other Android phone with as cool appearance as that of a black Hero (the european version, not the US Sprint's ugly cousin). I held the Desire in my hands and played with it a bit, but although it was blazingly fast, it didn't strike me as something I'd want.
What I will want next year is a Hero-shaped phone with modern hardware.

Would not recommend ebay.
Three are selling reconditioned £159.99 with £10 credit and can be unlocked from ebay for £6.50. Also £12 cashback if you go through Quidco.
Hope this helps.

Well the community for it is quite huge. Ofc it will slim when others move to newer phones, but I guess there are folks who got a 2 year contract (me being one of them, hehe )

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Not to mention that there is no other Android phone with as cool appearance as that of a black Hero (the european version, not the US Sprint's ugly cousin). I held the Desire in my hands and played with it a bit, but although it was blazingly fast, it didn't strike me as something I'd want.
What I will want next year is a Hero-shaped phone with modern hardware.
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I agree completely, imo the only other phone that looks as good or better than the Hero is the Legend. A Hero-shaped super phone would be amazing
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they've released the htc wildfire which is very much just a repackaged hero... i have no idea why they did it. it lacks all the style and class of the hero and only has an fm radio to make up for it.

Well if you root your Hero and overclock it, it pretty much becomes a Legend. Without the better screen and slimer profile. I want the Desire but got the HTC Hero this year because it just looked awesome (unfortunately Canadian carriers screw you over with 3 year contracts instead of two ) but I do love my Hero as it is my first smart phone and I love the 'chin'.
It is a matter of preference so the choice in the end is yours, but we do have Feeyo .

The design really stands out yea. People are always like "hey, what kind of phone is that?" while my brother gets none and has a desire
I think there are too many phones who are desire-like look at first look. Hero really stands out

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The design really stands out yea. People are always like "hey, what kind of phone is that?" while my brother gets none and has a desire
I think there are too many phones who are desire-like look at first look. Hero really stands out
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I get that a bit. Although the only smartphone that really has any recognition here in NZ is the iPhone. I imported my phone as we don't even have a decent range of Android phones (at reasonable prices). I mean... we JUST got the Nexus One which Google just stopped selling? lol.
But I only recently got my hero (a month ago now?) and i'm happy with my purchase. I mean... there's other purchases that could be had. I almost got a Milestone but the keyboard really put me off (played with my mates', it was a terrible keyboard.. the buttons are so stiff it isn't funny). I mean... I noticed a price drop of the Milestone shortly after I purchased my Hero but.. Eh, I can't complain. Bigger screen/higher res would've been nice though. Specs aren't really much more to write home about though.
Hero was reasonably priced, looks good, performs well enough. My only real annoyances about it are: No official Froyo, smaller screen/lower-resolution than others, can't run some newer games which i probably wouldn't play much anyway.
I'll probably upgrade next year when I have lots of money

March Upgrade...Evo or Not?

So I have my 1 year upgrade on March 1st, I bought a Optimus S to use so I could hang on to my upgrade, but with no good announcement on Feb 7th I think I will go ahead and get me a Evo. If a new dual core phone comes out in the summer by the time I upgrade again (premier gold, 10 years) that dual core will have some good development going on, like the Evo now. I have heard quite a few things about the launch Evo and another Evo they made, diff hardware or something. Some kernels work, some dont, a bit confusing. Can someone please give a quick break down of what a Evo purchased today can do development wise, kernels/clock speeds, roms, wimax hacks, cm7, all the good stuff! If todays Evo is highly limited maybe holding on to that upgrade would be the better choice. I dont care for the Evo Shift, looks odd to me. To much space on the bottom of the phone. I played with a Epic yesterday, nice screen, but phone felt "cheap".
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So I have my 1 year upgrade on March 1st, I bought a Optimus S to use so I could hang on to my upgrade, but with no good announcement on Feb 7th I think I will go ahead and get me a Evo. If a new dual core phone comes out in the summer by the time I upgrade again (premier gold, 10 years) that dual core will have some good development going on, like the Evo now. I have heard quite a few things about the launch Evo and another Evo they made, diff hardware or something. Some kernels work, some dont, a bit confusing. Can someone please give a quick break down of what a Evo purchased today can do development wise, kernels/clock speeds, roms, wimax hacks, cm7, all the good stuff! If todays Evo is highly limited maybe holding on to that upgrade would be the better choice. I dont care for the Evo Shift, looks odd to me. To much space on the bottom of the phone. I played with a Epic yesterday, nice screen, but phone felt "cheap".
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I think one could probably get a pretty clear indication of the what the EVO is capable of by reading just a little bit, so I am not going to recap BUT I will say this. I have always been one to anxiously await the latest and greatest phone until I purchased my Lauch Day EVO. It really is quite good.
If I were you, with a March 1 upgrade, I would wait a few weeks until CTIA to see what gets announced and then make my decision. At least you might have a clearer understanding of what might be coming around the corner.
I already have an upgrade that I am sitting on. Nothing out there that trips my trigger......yet.

cordell12 said:
So I have my 1 year upgrade on March 1st, I bought a Optimus S to use so I could hang on to my upgrade, but with no good announcement on Feb 7th I think I will go ahead and get me a Evo. If a new dual core phone comes out in the summer by the time I upgrade again (premier gold, 10 years) that dual core will have some good development going on, like the Evo now. I have heard quite a few things about the launch Evo and another Evo they made, diff hardware or something. Some kernels work, some dont, a bit confusing. Can someone please give a quick break down of what a Evo purchased today can do development wise, kernels/clock speeds, roms, wimax hacks, cm7, all the good stuff! If todays Evo is highly limited maybe holding on to that upgrade would be the better choice. I dont care for the Evo Shift, looks odd to me. To much space on the bottom of the phone. I played with a Epic yesterday, nice screen, but phone felt "cheap".
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Wait...echo's just around the corner
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As my friend said, "If you always wait until the latest and greatest comes out, you'll always be waiting. If you get upset that something new comes out just after you bought the latest and greatest, you'll always be upset. Just pick [a phone or computer] you're happy with and go with it."
I bought the Evo because I loved my Hero. I simply wanted a faster processor, larger screen and the kickstand. The Evo was perfect for me and I couldn't be happier. It does everything I wanted it to do and more. It's my phone, computer, clock, calendar, contact list, e-book reader, music player and so on. Tinkering with it is a blast too!

I would hold on a little bit more sprint has to dropping a flagship phone soon
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I generally agree..... BUT CTIA is literally just a few weeks away. That is when they are expected to make significant announcements.
Of course, I have been salivating over the Echo....not.

Its easy to say hold off while you already have the best phone sprint has out (right now). What attracts me to the Evo right now is the development, it is already there. If I wait and get a new "insert name" I will be at stock until root comes, then be waiting for some kernels/roms. Even if a dual core hit the scene today wont fragmentation be a problem, apps wont even really use that second processor, or would android handle the CPU's? I had a Hero up until 2 months ago when I bought the Optimus S, the S is a good phone, its faster than the Hero and all though I like the Hero's screen better. The S will replacing my wifes Hero, its seen its better days, lol. I put aosp's 2.3 on it, makes me crave CM7 so being "stuck" with a Evo for a year until my next upgrade would not be a bad thing. By then what ever super charged dual core HTC phone becomes the new flagship for sprint ought to be rooted with awesome development already!
Thanks for the replies

Or you could take the route my girlfriend and I have gone towards: When one phone is ready to upgrade, I get it... she gets my old phone.

subcypher said:
Or you could take the route my girlfriend and I have gone towards: When one phone is ready to upgrade, I get it... she gets my old phone.
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Yeah, that's my thought process right now. My wife loves everything about her old iPhone 3G . . . except for the part about it being a really lousy phone, lol.
I'm waiting to see when Sprint drops a new (hopefully dual core?) flagship and pick that one up for me and pass this Evo on to her. Going forward, then, we'd both be on Sprint and could play the leapfrog game, too.

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Its easy to say hold off while you already have the best phone sprint has out (right now). What attracts me to the Evo right now is the development, it is already there. If I wait and get a new "insert name" I will be at stock until root comes, then be waiting for some kernels/roms. Even if a dual core hit the scene today wont fragmentation be a problem, apps wont even really use that second processor, or would android handle the CPU's? I had a Hero up until 2 months ago when I bought the Optimus S, the S is a good phone, its faster than the Hero and all though I like the Hero's screen better. The S will replacing my wifes Hero, its seen its better days, lol. I put aosp's 2.3 on it, makes me crave CM7 so being "stuck" with a Evo for a year until my next upgrade would not be a bad thing. By then what ever super charged dual core HTC phone becomes the new flagship for sprint ought to be rooted with awesome development already!
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I can see you thought it all out... and it makes sense.
I agree... although there are 2 things...
1. 3 months is enough of a lag for me to wait.. to see if the phone will be adopted by devs. This is nearly 9 months. Still a great phone though.
2. htc is announcing big in 3 days... wait till then to re-evaluate.

Dan330 said:
I can see you thought it all out... and it makes sense.
I agree... although there are 2 things...
1. 3 months is enough of a lag for me to wait.. to see if the phone will be adopted by devs. This is nearly 9 months. Still a great phone though.
2. htc is announcing big in 3 days... wait till then to re-evaluate.
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Why would HTC announce a CMDA device for Sprint at the GSM Association mobile conference?

all i see on there facebook page.. is a count down clock... nothing about gsm

Counting down until the Evo gets Gingerbread officially? (although since I switched to AOSP Gingerbread it isn't as much of an issue as it once was...)

I decided to get the Evo, unless something bad ass will be released within a couple months. I see adds on ebay that have the phone for as low as $100. Has anyone ever used one of the ebay adds/auctions? Sprint always wants big $, heck the Hero is still $250 with a $100 rebate. That's another thing, with the ebay auctions I think they are cheap because the rebates are instant. Any input?
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yep CM7 GX4 and love every min of it. EVO is still the way to go if I had an upgrade available now I would get another EVO!

id wait a few more months and see what sprint may offer by june. the optimus S is a decent phone compared to the hero. not saying the evo isn't a worthy upgrade but it is going on a year old soon. i wouldn't use my upgrade on it when you can pick one up on craigslist for $250 now.

If you do decide to get the Evo, grab a white one because, initially, white ones were a Best-Buy exclusive. They were only offered in Sprint stores recently. If you pick up a white one from a Sprint store, it'll probably be an 0004 (latest hardware revision, no defects). Also, the white one just feels nicer because it's glossy instead of rubbery matte, so it doesn't show smudges or anything.
This is from experience. I went through 2 defective replacements until they agreed to give me a brand new one after some haggling. I purposely asked for a white one because I knew.

Dan330 said:
all i see on there facebook page.. is a count down clock... nothing about gsm
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The conference that they are presenting at this week is the GSMA Mobile World Conference. GSM Association
You wont see anything for CDMA until the CITA Convention