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First and foremost, I don't really need my Hero to do anything it doesn't already do. It's just, I'm very picky about aesthetics and I'm not a fan of the way the icons look on the stock ROM.
By the way I'm in the US with Sprint.
1. Do I have to root my Hero to change the theme/icons?
2. If I root my Hero can my phone become vulnerable to hackers? (Read this somewhere ... Had to do with SSH or something)
3. Will I be able to get rid of all the bundled apps like Nascar and NFL without rooting my Hero?
Thanks in advance.
Before you get all excited about rooting your phone, keep in mind, HTC should be releasing the Android 2.x early next year (as per online rumors ). If you really must have root access, tethering, or the removal of stock apps, then rooting is the way to go. The first and most important thing you must do is to install a recovery image (like RA-heroc-v1.5.2) and back up your current ROM via Nand.
1. there are some apps (at home) in the marketplace that'll allow you to change the theme and icons without rooting your phone.
2. Unless your phone is constantly connected to something like telnet (highly unlikely), you shouldn't get hacked. If you're worried, just turn off your 3G and leave your phone offline when not in use.
3. To get rid of Sprint apps, your phone will have to be rooted.
Btw, I have a GSM Hero, so there are numerous differences on what you'll get/not get on your CDMA Hero.
Go to the CDMA section and read, read, read. Don't take shortcuts, you need to be 100% sure of what you're about to do. Remember, there is a possibility that you can brick your expensive phone.
Also, read the What Can I Do With Root - INFO.
Didn't really get the telnet reference. I just want to know ... Does rooting the Hero make it easier for people to maliciously obtain personal info from the device?
If so ... Is there a step in the rooting process that prevents this? If i recall correctly, jailbroken iPhones became vulnerable to said exploits. Why would it be any different with the Hero?
i dont think so.. if you dont pay attention to the apps you download then you might get fooled.. you know.. you download a game and it asks to be allowed to view your contacts..
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If so ... Is there a step in the rooting process that prevents this? If i recall correctly, jailbroken iPhones became vulnerable to said exploits. Why would it be any different with the Hero?
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why would it be different? these security mechanisms were not implemented just for fun...
nevertheless you can also execute malicious apps without root. in fact i'd think that there are more approaches out there that don't need root, as they have the broader "audience".
but honestly: if you don't know what you are doing don't do it. it seems to me that you don't have a clue what rooting means, so IMHO you should read up on that topic a little more. this is not meant to sound condescending or anything, this is just a warning that you most likely will crash a few times if you dive into it head first.
Very, very true.
Don't risk making that phone of yours an expensive piece of paper-weight.
There's already loads of threads that explain the rooting process and benefits throughout this forum.
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why would it be different? these security mechanisms were not implemented just for fun...
nevertheless you can also execute malicious apps without root. in fact i'd think that there are more approaches out there that don't need root, as they have the broader "audience".
but honestly: if you don't know what you are doing don't do it. it seems to me that you don't have a clue what rooting means, so IMHO you should read up on that topic a little more. this is not meant to sound condescending or anything, this is just a warning that you most likely will crash a few times if you dive into it head first.
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Oh I know what it means now, matter of fact I rooted it the other night. Read up on it and still don't understand why HTC/Sprint would deny users access to the root folder but yeah, not a problem for me anymore.
I rooted today and wanted to spread the word on the benefits of rooting. If you wait till you complete your one-year-warranty you will be missing out on the cutting-edge mods, tweaks & bugfixes that are releasing now. After a year there will be a better phone (N2?) available and development for the N1 will be slow/reduced.
Since I'm new to the rooted world please feel free to provide points I missed and I'll update this list (i.e. this is a work in progress). thanks.
Pros:
Complete access to your superphone. (essentially a linux box)
USB tether, WIFI tether. (I'm posting this right now via wifi tether )
Ability to run applications that require root. (N1 torch, Trackball color, startup disable, apps2sd)
Himem kernel. (400MB RAM compared to 212 MB stock)
Option to install apps on the SD card via A2SD (apps2sd)
Ability to theme your phone, change the kernel, Replace apps with modded versions, install bugfixes yourself
Possibility to include features (FM, higher res videos, divx etc) from the Desire/legend/other phones. These will probably NEVER be officially released for the N1.
Ability to change the kernel. With Undevolting, Overclocking, AVS, CPU throttling (SetCPU) etc; you can aim for a faster speed or longer standby battery life.
Cons:
Voided Warranty (there are cases where you still get service though)
No official OTA updates. (you get them a few hours late, or months earlier )
Nice list!
I think the thing that prevents people from rooting is voiding their warranty. I honestly believe that just stops them in their tracks (along with noobs thinking they lose OTA features). If it weren't for the loss in warranty, I believe people would root in a quick second..
Pretty sure we already know.
I applaud your effort, though.
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Pretty sure we already know.
I applaud your effort, though.
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...especially considering many of us have been fooling around with Android since the G1, and there are already numerous threads about rooting, or why to root, or the pros of rooting, or if rooting will void the warranty. Ugh. This forum is filling up with crap threads quick.
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...especially considering many of us have been fooling around with Android since the G1, and there are already numerous threads about rooting, or why to root, or the pros of rooting, or if rooting will void the warranty. Ugh. This forum is filling up with crap threads quick.
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I actually applaud this thread.
I was ready to come in here all PISSED off at yet ANOTHER thread asking "like, oh m ygod, convince meeeee to root plezzzzzzzzz"
Thank you for not being that type of thread.
I will put the shotgun down now.
uansari1 said:
...especially considering many of us have been fooling around with Android since the G1, and there are already numerous threads about rooting, or why to root, or the pros of rooting, or if rooting will void the warranty. Ugh. This forum is filling up with crap threads quick.
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agreed... it kills me... i think users should have to get a G1 first... brick it, get a new one... learn from their mistakes, and then graduate to the Nexus One after figuring out the basics of Android... this forum is turning into the G1 junk-pile all over again
palosjr said:
agreed... it kills me... i think users should have to get a G1 first... brick it, get a new one... learn from their mistakes, and then graduate to the Nexus One after figuring out the basics of Android... this forum is turning into the G1 junk-pile all over again
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Or we could act in the spirit of forum participation and pass on wisdom so that the community as a whole can grow, rather than everyone starting at year 0.
A mod should just sticky this thread and maybe people will stop making new ones asking why they should root
Bump for the lazy asshats unwilling to search
liam.lah said:
Or we could act in the spirit of forum participation and pass on wisdom so that the community as a whole can grow, rather than everyone starting at year 0.
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What a great thought. +1
The 2 cons are not really important for me:
-No warranty in Lebanon anyway
-Updated ROMs are uploaded by kind people here and there
Eclair~ said:
Nice list!
I think the thing that prevents people from rooting is voiding their warranty. I honestly believe that just stops them in their tracks (along with noobs thinking they lose OTA features). If it weren't for the loss in warranty, I believe people would root in a quick second..
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I agree with this, I hate the fact that it voids the warranty...*WHYYYY*
haha....
hopefully there will be a method soon where we can root without voiding the warranty
uansari1 said:
...especially considering many of us have been fooling around with Android since the G1, and there are already numerous threads about rooting, or why to root, or the pros of rooting, or if rooting will void the warranty. Ugh. This forum is filling up with crap threads quick.
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palosjr said:
agreed... it kills me... i think users should have to get a G1 first... brick it, get a new one... learn from their mistakes, and then graduate to the Nexus One after figuring out the basics of Android... this forum is turning into the G1 junk-pile all over again
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So funny to see these guys who registered here not too long ago spout off this nonsense. Get over yourselves. The OP was only trying to help.
Another thing missing is, most of the custom roms having problems, either some have issues with the camera or bluetooth, or stability. I would hope that would be added to the list of why not to root.
When you encourage everyone to root , you obviously understand most of your viewers are going to be noobs, who will root and install the custom OS's and get upset why doesnt the thing work as it was suppose to, unlike you guys who change custom roms every other minute as a hobby most of us beginners(rooting) might not have the patience/time in hand to do so.
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So funny to see these guys who registered here not too long ago spout off this nonsense. Get over yourselves. The OP was only trying to help.
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Yup posters like that are the ones who are going to transform our community into an Apple-like environment. Elitist snobs who pounce on anyone who doesn't know what they do. Case in point, take palosjr. Reminds me of a typical Apple-fanboy douche bag with that kind of response.
Get off your freaking high horses, if you don't want to help then don't respond at all.
There might also be a few people holding out for Froyo to see what it offers.
+1 for adding that custom ROMs can be buggy or unfinished as a con... though the stock ROM isn't flawless either I guess.
Warranty
britoso said:
I rooted today and wanted to spread the word on the benefits of rooting. If you wait till you complete your one-year-warranty you will be missing out on the cutting-edge mods, tweaks & bugfixes that are releasing now. After a year there will be a better phone (N2?) available and development for the N1 will be slow/reduced.
Since I'm new to the rooted world please feel free to provide points I missed and I'll update this list (i.e. this is a work in progress). thanks.
Pros:
Complete access to your superphone. (essentially a linux box)
USB tether, WIFI tether. (I'm posting this right now via wifi tether )
Ability to run applications that require root. (N1 torch, Trackball color, startup disable, apps2sd)
Himem kernel. (400MB RAM compared to 212 MB stock)
Option to install apps on the SD card via A2SD (apps2sd)
Ability to theme your phone, change the kernel, Replace apps with modded versions, install bugfixes yourself
Possibility to include features (FM, higher res videos, divx etc) from the Desire/legend/other phones. These will probably NEVER be officially released for the N1.
Cons:
Voided Warranty (there are cases where you still get service though)
No official OTA updates. (you get them a few hours late, or months earlier )
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Nexus One is the first phone I've owned could not be flashed back to factory stock state after rooting. My HTC Magic could be flashed back to out-of-the-box state in 5 minutes. My Acer Liquid can be returned to 100% stock in 5 minutes. But the Nexus One? It's got that white padlock at the bottom of the screen indicating you're on your own. That does make one stop and think for moment.
But only a moment.
I waited a week before unlocking the bootloader. That was to give the phone time to fail if it was going to. My experience with hardware is that it either fails quickly....or not. In my case, not.
CM v5.0.6 is not to be missed.
linuxluver said:
Nexus One is the first phone I've owned could not be flashed back to factory stock state after rooting. My HTC Magic could be flashed back to out-of-the-box state in 5 minutes. My Acer Liquid can be returned to 100% stock in 5 minutes. But the Nexus One? It's got that white padlock at the bottom of the screen indicating you're on your own. That does make one stop and think for moment.
But only a moment.
I waited a week before unlocking the bootloader. That was to give the phone time to fail if it was going to. My experience with hardware is that it either fails quickly....or not. In my case, not.
CM v5.0.6 is not to be missed.
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Hah I did the same, only waited a week then I rooted. I got the Nexus One about two weeks ago and love it!
I think some other PROS would be better battery life and OC ability with kernels and ROMse. Using IntersecRaven's kernel I get about 15 extra hours and I am a moderate to heavy user after the 24/7 heavy usage when I got my phone initially.
Plus the car dock is awesome--personal PRO for me
Wow so much hate for someone who's trying to help the community. Chill out ppl.
PrawnPoBoy said:
+1 for adding that custom ROMs can be buggy or unfinished as a con... though the stock ROM isn't flawless either I guess.
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Technically, rooting is completely separate from installing a custom ROM, so the buggyness of ROMs installed AFTER rooting (if you choose to do so) can't be counted as a con, since you can root and not install any custom ROM.
Hi people,
I am a noob as far as Android goes, but I am pretty good at PC stuff. I run a 3D CAD department and I've been the "unofficial" tech guy at every job I've had in the last 10 years.
That being said, I just got the HTC Hero from Sprint last weekend, Android 2.1, update 1. I have always wanted to play with Linux but have never really had the time. So, this is my first encounter with Android or Linux.
So ..... , as much as I'd love to root the phone, I'm afraid to brick it. Is there any way to get rid of all the bloatware without rooting my phone? Also, what are the chances of bricking the phone? I've read a couple "how to root" articles on the net and it doesn't seem like it would be that hard, but I LOVE this phone so far (other than battery life) and I honestly can't afford to go buy a new one at full price if I end up killing my phone.
Another question; I've seen a few people in other posts who have the HTC Hero and say they're running 2.2. How is this done? Is this something else that I would need to root the phone to accomplish?
Also, I just ordered an 8GB microSD card. My laptop has a card slot, so I'm figuring I can put the new card in the slot, connect my phone via USB, and copy everything on the phone to the new 8GB card, then just swapping the cards.
Am I correct thinking this should be as simple as it sounds, or is there more involved?
I appreciate you taking the time to read my post, and I look forward to reading/posting here on a regular basis.
Thanks,
Eric Mortenson
Hey, welcome to XDA!
It is VERY HARD to brick this phone, so don't worry....about the only way we've seen that is by flashing a GSM radio to it, so just don't do that and you'll be fine trying anything else.
There are a couple rooting methods here, and there won't be any problems at all as long as you follow the instructions. It's not as daunting as it may first seem. You do have to root to get rid of bloatware, it can't be done without rooting. I recommend this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572 although there are 'one-click' and 'universal' methods out there too.
The ones running Android 2.2 are doing it through a custom ROM called Cyanogenmod. Check out the Development section to find it. It doesn't have the HTC Sense UI though, so it will look and feel different than your stock 2.1. But lots of people here are using it and loving it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795
And yes, you should just be able to swap out the SD cards with no problems.
chromiumleaf
Thanks for the quick and helpful reply. It is greatly appreciated.
I think I am going to try to root my phone. Pre-installed "bloatware" on PCs is one of my biggest pet peeves. So, the biggest reason I have right now for rooting my phone is to get rid of the stuff I don't want/need/use.
I will probably leave the 2.1 on the phone because I love the phone so far and if as you say, it will look and feel different. Maybe I'll keep digging through the site and change my mind later. Thanks for the "heads up".
Please do me one favor, and I hate to sound ignorant (I did say earlier I was new at this), but what does "flashing a GSM radio to it" mean, and is it something I could do my mistake?
Sorry, tried doing a search so I wouldn't have to bother you but I'm just not sure.
Thanks again.
Eric
Eric_1966_FXE said:
...what does "flashing a GSM radio to it" mean, and is it something I could do my mistake?
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To "flash" some code means to burn it into your phone's read-only memory. A number of things can be flashed to your phone's memory, including the radio operating code, high-level operating system code, and "kernel" (system "core") code.
What the poster meant by "flashing a GSM radio" is "downloading the code that operates the phone's radio". Our Sprint Hero phones have what is called CDMA radio hardware, while European Hero phones have GSM radio hardware. The two different radios are not compatible with each other's operating code. So if you ever download ("flash") the wrong radio code (GSM code) into your CDMA phone, that will render your radio inoperative, which will effectively brick your phone.
With that in mind, just read carefully any information relating to any system code you're considering flashing to your phone, and make SURE it's for a CDMA phone, and you'll be fine.
I loved sense and was all against even trying an aosp rom( vanilla/ stock android), but once I flashed CM6 and found beautiful widgets and launcher pro plus and dialer one I haven't looked back. The speed of my phone and the overall appearance is far better than Sense UI. Rooting the 2.1 is far easier than it was when I got mine. You had to download and type in a whole bunch of crap, now its as easy as installing an app and running it.
Thanks
Thank you to all three of you for your quick (and more importantly useful) answers.
You guys are awesome.
Go for it
I have 4 Hero's here at my home on a family plan,and mine is the only one running CM6-RC1 and they are all jealous. Every one that has a Hero at work or a different Android running 2.1 that has seen mine including a few Evo users loves the way mine looks and how fast it is. I thought in the beginning I wouldn't want to loose Sense and feared I would brick my phone as well,but these guys here are great and are a very supportive Hero community and walked me through the process. It is a lot easier now with the universal 1 click method than before,so that was what I did. The nice thing is if you do everything correctly,you can revert right back to you stock phone if you ever have to take it in for service.
Taking your time and researching all of this pretty good before deciding what to do is a good thing,but I can honestly say, there is so much more you can do once you unlock your phone than just downloading apps and bloat ware...you can actually make it work and do what you want it to do.
The chiefs here at XDA are working hard to bring us stable working Roms for everyday use,and I tip my hat to all of them and I certainly am loving how my Hero is now compared to what it was when it was stock.The RC-1 build I am running is awesome and (knock wood) haven't crashed 1x with it where I needed to do anything nor have I had any shutdowns or unexpected forced closed programs that were installed correctly.
So I say... Don't be afraid and just go for it.. you can still have it similar to what it is now,or you can see what aosp is all about like many here have and try it.That's the beauty of Rooting...YOU have the choice of what is on your phone..not someone else.
Good Luck
Mac
Thanks Mac
And Thank you to all who responded.
Like I said in my intro, I am a tech geek when it comes to PCs but this is my first venture into this kind of forum.
You have all been extremely helpful and have made me feel welcome.
I only hope that I can return the favor at some point to others on XDA.
I hope you all have a wonderful holiday weekend.
Thanks again,
Eric
First off anyone wanting to root do not update past 8.6.5.19 or 8.6.6.19 for the tf01g the newest firmware update from asus .21 blocks the razorclaw root exploit.
i dnt know about the rest of you but i watched this forum and others for about 2 months straight when i got my B80 tf01 waiting for a way to root...i mean everyday anxiously....to the point i was teaching myself android to see if i could figure out a way myself!! realistic or not..
the transformer isnt my first android device but ive only had a few and infact the tf01 stole me away from my ipad thankfully!!! thanx android!! But once i got root i was so happy it was literally an awesome christmas gift from rayman and the devs and asus ultimately.
Now heres where my observstions come in....whether anyone cares or not...after waiting for root like i did and finally getting it there was no wayespecially after seeing the roms out there that i was puting asus firmware back on my device...the devs will support it better and longer anyway.... why in the world would people who had root just go and OTA update and blow root, im guessing those who did are probably not meant to root and are probably safer not rooted.
I know its not the way it is but its almost like we got a little way in that only those who are advanced enough would be able to get and keep root and those not advanced enough would miss the chance or lose root.. I for one wont put anything straight from asus on my device unless devs just cant do ics which i highly doubt. more likely they will release before asus.
i used to really wonder why there were some questions not answered or the guys in the know getting aggravated about thwe questions over and over again, but not anymore i so respect these guys and totally understand where they are coming from watching people ask some of the questions ive seen in the last few days after this update so makes me get it.
Loosely put the level of noobness is amazing around this neck of the woods ?
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what on earth is the purpose of this post?
Were you high when you wrote this ?
After reading this post twice, I'm still confused what the purpose is.. must have been a nice trip?
I dont agree that anyone but a noob should return to stock. I regard myself pretty clued up with technology and sheer geekery and have been for thirty years, but I returned to stock due to just wanting this device to work. I had certain issues after rooting and was happy with how it worked before rooting. Now I do agree the devs here do a brilliant job, but for me, I am happy with a stock device for the time being.
Seg
not a whole lot of purpose to the post other than warning those who obviously dont know and a little bit of a rant or ramble... it is the general forum and i didnt see anything too terribly wrong with it..
if it was totally out of line then i apologize just some people amaze me sometimes.....
for those who feel stock is more reliabe more power too ya and we are all entitled to our opinions and i just disagree.... stock for me wasnt even close in peformance and obviouly control of my device was far from what i have with root.... i can return to stock anytime if needed but i cant justify it.
Since updates from asus come out pretty often i dont see any point in rooting at least not for me. I did root my nexus one though and got CM7 on it but for my TF101 i still prefer it stock since the updates come really fast and they usually breaks the root exploit and such...i think this is a personal thing, for me i'm pretty satisfied with stock..until they stop giving out updates regularly then i'll start rooting and playing with custom roms on my TF101 just like i did on my N1
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Since updates from asus come out pretty often i dont see any point in rooting at least not for me. I did root my nexus one though and got CM7 on it but for my TF101 i still prefer it stock since the updates come really fast and they usually breaks the root exploit and such...i think this is a personal thing, for me i'm pretty satisfied with stock..until they stop giving out updates regularly then i'll start rooting and playing with custom roms on my TF101 just like i did on my N1
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Also, the battery life and speed of stock is perfect to be honest.
The Transformer is my 4th android device and it's the only one so far i've NOT rooted.
Currently, I see Asus updating it regularly and I don't want to miss out on any vital updates.
With my phones, rooting was essential to make space, get rid of annoying stock apps and tether to other devices.
With the TF101 I don't see a major need for me to root.
I dont understand the point of the OP (opening post) and must say that I prefer my TF101 just as it is - unrooted and FULLY up to date.
I have a question, as I just got my tablet a couple days ago. So basically, what the OP is saying is that you can't root if you update to 8.6.5.21. I've been doing a lot of reading (this isn't my first android device), and I think I've come to conclusion that I can't root just yet. A) You have to be on a lower version than 8.6.5.21. B) Your serial number has to be B70 or lower. So, even if I downgraded to the lower version number, I still won't be able to root? (My serial number starts with B90) Thanks for your input, as I'm not going to attempt to root until I have all the facts straight.
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I have a question, as I just got my tablet a couple days ago. So basically, what the OP is saying is that you can't root if you update to 8.6.5.21. I've been doing a lot of reading (this isn't my first android device), and I think I've come to conclusion that I can't root just yet. A) You have to be on a lower version than 8.6.5.21. B) Your serial number has to be B70 or lower. So, even if I downgraded to the lower version number, I still won't be able to root? (My serial number starts with B90) Thanks for your input, as I'm not going to attempt to root until I have all the facts straight.
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I think I get the point of the OP- a warning and general observations. To some extent, I agree. Because of the speed that ASUS sends out updates, it's trickier to maintain root on a stock system. If you want to run a non-rooted stock rom, then the updates are safe. If you want to run a rooted stock rom, you'll have to do some legwork to maintain root. It would probably be easier to just run a custom rom, rather than a rooted stock rom. As far as the newb questions go, I don't mind the ones that have done some homework, but I usually ignore the ones that don't even know what they are asking.
@dougstoner- either A OR B will work. For you, your only root option today is 8.6.5.19, although I'm not sure if it's possible to downgrade.
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dougstoner said:
I have a question, as I just got my tablet a couple days ago. So basically, what the OP is saying is that you can't root if you update to 8.6.5.21. I've been doing a lot of reading (this isn't my first android device), and I think I've come to conclusion that I can't root just yet. A) You have to be on a lower version than 8.6.5.21. B) Your serial number has to be B70 or lower. So, even if I downgraded to the lower version number, I still won't be able to root? (My serial number starts with B90) Thanks for your input, as I'm not going to attempt to root until I have all the facts straight.
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False.
BA0 here (means this is beyond the B# series). Bought TF a week ago, came with the dock bundle. Updated to the latest Asus FW but had no trouble using RC or CWM installer.apk
the only thing I can't really do is put it into APX mode and use NVFlash.
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False.
BA0 here (means this is beyond the B# series). Bought TF a week ago, came with the dock bundle. Updated to the latest Asus FW but had no trouble using RC or CWM installer.apk
the only thing I can't really do is put it into APX mode and use NVFlash.
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Don't say false, you might have gotten lucky and got 8.6.5.19 but
keep in mind the latest update got pushed out about a week or so, the latest update for you at the time might have been 8.6.5.19 but the latest as of now is 8.6.5.21 which is not rootable with Razorclaw.
Being you have a BAO you will not be able to use NVFLash at this time.
Your BAO is just a continuation of B9O.
A continuation right the way upto F.
So, if I can downgrade to the lowest version, I can root. (if that's possible)
I can't install a custom bootloader though right? Since my serial number is too high? Basically, all I can do is root if I can get to the right version, and wait until I have NVFlash for higher serial numbers to load a custom rom? Thanks for all the replies guys. I appreciate it.
The OP could have been onto something.
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I always prefer root on any android device because it allows for customistions way beyond stock firmwre.until you have rooted and used a transformer running a custom firmware at 1.5ghz you have no frame of reference at all. Most custom rom devs will update their Roms using the latest Asus firmware anyway so you aren't missing out on any new stock firmware features. I wouldn't go back to stock now if you paid me! I liken it to tuning a car, stock is fine but there is nothing like remapping the ecu and it often makes the car handle better and use less fuel.
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I always prefer root on any android device because it allows for customistions way beyond stock firmwre.until you have rooted and used a transformer running a custom firmware at 1.5ghz you have no frame of reference at all. Most custom rom devs will update their Roms using the latest Asus firmware anyway so you aren't missing out on any new stock firmware features. I wouldn't go back to stock now if you paid me! I liken it to tuning a car, stock is fine but there is nothing like remapping the ecu and it often makes the car handle better and use less fuel.
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If only for Voodoo rooting is an absolute must.
Is there going to be LineageOS Support for this model?
I doubt it, considering that this isn't a very popular device for developers. We can't even obtain root access, nor have I seen any custom bootloader available for the Nook. (The latter would be more beneficial than the former, because with the adoption of "systemless root" in Android 6.0+, you can flash Chainfire SuperSU from a custom bootloader like TWRP, without needing an exploit like you do with the one-click root methods.) A custom ROM is a long ways off at this point, and I've kinda given up hope on getting one.
Maybe you could help us write code?
I'm afraid my coding skills are extremely rusty; I used to write in Java… about 12 years ago, and very poorly.
IF people were coding, I could provide moral support, and maybe if I had enough time I could learn some simple stuff, but I don't really have any current language skills that might be relevant at present.
Batshua said:
I'm afraid my coding skills are extremely rusty; I used to write in Java… about 12 years ago, and very poorly.
IF people were coding, I could provide moral support, and maybe if I had enough time I could learn some simple stuff, but I don't really have any current language skills that might be relevant at present.
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Well, you are better off than I am... ?
No, I totally understand. Seems like @rockon999 was our best chance but I wonder where he went.
smileygon10 said:
Well, you are better off than I am...
No, I totally understand. Seems like @rockon999 was our best chance but I wonder where he went.
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I hit a wall and I had finals. As a result, I just didn't have extra "hacking" time. Plus, I needed a simple tablet for a kid so I installed Google's Family Link on the Nook and sent it off. So... I no longer have a Nook in hand unfortunately.