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Froyo by December 15

I just got out of a T-Mobile representative that Android 2.2 Froyo is supposed to be pushed to all MyTouch Slides by December 15th of 2010. I always ask this kind of question every time I call T-Mobile, and this time they searched very deep.

RUbernerd said:
I just got out of a T-Mobile representative that Android 2.2 Froyo is supposed to be pushed to all MyTouch Slides by December 15th of 2010. I always ask this kind of question every time I call T-Mobile, and this time they searched very deep.
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No offense to you, but we've heard so many dates, 10 million times about the update and still no froyo. Although, December 15th does sound about right for the update. Especially since the myTouch 4g and G2 are already released. We just have to wait till we get the text messaging stating that our update will be pushed to officially know.
Black myTouch Slide w/stock rom
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Well, previously, T-Mobile rep's were saying "By years end", and today he did a bit of digging and said for sure by dec. 15. So by how fast they moved the orig. mytouch, froyo should be being released by nov. 15. Seem logical?

RUbernerd said:
Well, previously, T-Mobile rep's were saying "By years end", and today he did a bit of digging and said for sure by dec. 15. So by how fast they moved the orig. mytouch, froyo should be being released by nov. 15. Seem logical?
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We can brainstorm all day about when the update will be released, but all we'll be doing is brainstorming. The rep could be right and I could be wrong. Just don't get your hopes up though.
Black myTouch Slide w/stock rom
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Too little, too late...
Whenever it comes, it's just too late. Though I love the slide keyboard, shape, look, etc, I'm done with the thing.
My wife moved onto a G2, and mine is on order. There's only so much pain that one can take.

chaboud said:
Whenever it comes, it's just too late. Though I love the slide keyboard, shape, look, etc, I'm done with the thing.
My wife moved onto a G2, and mine is on order. There's only so much pain that one can take.
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Lmao, that's funny.
Black myTouch Slide w/stock rom
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Well, this is the only way I'm going to get froyo, because my phone refuses to root for whatever reason.

RUbernerd said:
Well, this is the only way I'm going to get froyo, because my phone refuses to root for whatever reason.
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I'm also having the rooting issue and that's mainly because I have a mac.
Black myTouch Slide w/stock rom
www.GoTeamFriday.com

Just got off the phone with them. its true! December 15
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using Tapatalk

december 15th for a update that will hopefully be good...slightly dissapointed
i hope its not froyo dressed with crappy bloatware, but its expected for this phone.
honestly, the custom froyo roms are doing pretty well for me, i just want bluetooth and ill be good

itsallen said:
december 15th for a update that will hopefully be good...slightly dissapointed
i hope its not froyo dressed with crappy bloatware, but its expected for this phone.
honestly, the custom froyo roms are doing pretty well for me, i just want bluetooth and ill be good
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For sure itll be froyo
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using Tapatalk

interseting, for those of us sticking with the slide because of financial issues (lack of 500$ to buy g2 or mt4g) this is great to hear.
It does sound logical and a better date for it to come. Will be waiting for this to come. I'm sure it will come with all the bloatware just like the original 2.1 espresso but not a biggie we'll have it ported and customized soon after release.
*crosses fingers*

I just got off the phone with cc and they told me that the date of the 15th is for the mytouch and that there is no date as of yet for the slide. Is everyone positive that they are clearing telling them what phone you are talking about

OuncE718 said:
I'm also having the rooting issue and that's mainly because I have a mac.
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Even on windows 7 it won't work for me. For whatever reason, when I try to apply the E..... .zip file, when I press up, it goes into a reboot. I might install su.apk tho, I have the ./exploid working.
xl DIGITAL lx said:
For sure itll be froyo
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He said Froyo, but it might be Gingerbread.

I guarantee it won't be gingerbread.

RUbernerd said:
Even on windows 7 it won't work for me. For whatever reason, when I try to apply the E..... .zip file, when I press up, it goes into a reboot. I might install su.apk tho, I have the ./exploid working.
He said Froyo, but it might be Gingerbread.
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The slide is one of the hardest phones to gain root access. If I had a windows computer it would be much easier. You should search youtube I'm sure there is some step by step videos for rooting the slide on a windows computer.
I doubt it'll be gingerbread if/when we get the update.
Black myTouch Slide w/stock rom
www.GoTeamFriday.com

OuncE718 said:
The slide is one of the hardest phones to gain root access. If I had a windows computer it would be much easier. You should search youtube I'm sure there is some step by step videos for rooting the slide on a windows computer.
I doubt it'll be gingerbread if/when we get the update.
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Its just as difficult on a Windows machine as it is on a linux machine.

ldominguez1986 said:
I just got off the phone with cc and they told me that the date of the 15th is for the mytouch and that there is no date as of yet for the slide. Is everyone positive that they are clearing telling them what phone you are talking about
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The mytouch already has froyo. 2.2.1 to be exact. You mean the fender edition & the slide? I forget where I was reading it but the 3.5mm one the slide and the fender are all getting froyo around the same time period. So most likely it'll start with the fender then the 3.5mm then the slide. I could be wrong though
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

RUbernerd said:
Its just as difficult on a Windows machine as it is on a linux machine.
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It's quite simple if you guys read the instructions. Took me less than a minute my first time.

First of all let me say I work for Tmo and 2.2 has no date set yet for ANYTHING in the mytouch lineup except the original Mytouch3G as stated previously. (except the mt4g obviously as it comes with it) The MT3G update was moved back to dec 15th for some reason, and NOTHING was announced for any other MT devices yet, period. I don't care what some CC rep told you, it's simply not true.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

The Mytouch Slide isnt dead!

Many people think it is dead and there are no devs working on it anymore, but this isnt true. There are still multiple devs with this phone, yes some are working on other phones but look at this device, it has everything. We already have Froyo, and really we need the source to get the bluetooth working so now were only waiting for HTC to release the source. You could be on another device that is outdated or even unsupported anymore.
So be patient, well be getting S-Off and Official Froyo soon

I'm with you. Even Cyanogen takes care of Slide.

SKAm69 said:
I'm with you. Even Cyanogen takes care of Slide.
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Plus teamdouche, with their nightlies coming like everyday.

anyone remember the "froyo coming soon" in june? i don't we're going to get official froyo at all. Look at most roms, "updated 10/08!!!!" thats more than a month that it was updated, the development for this phone is dead.

Development isn't dead it's just slowed. There are new phones to work with. It's more fun to dev on a phone that's new and to an extent unknown than one that's pretty much given up all its secrets.

mr.johnsexydavis911 said:
anyone remember the "froyo coming soon" in june? i don't we're going to get official froyo at all. Look at most roms, "updated 10/08!!!!" thats more than a month that it was updated, the development for this phone is dead.
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i just feel like g2 just got permanent root yet if you see their forum they have had many different updates, for many different types of roms, from many devs and besides team douche the only updates we get are people porting other roms....ever month or two. i would love to see this forum as lively as others, but at this point its not so.

dbzfanatic said:
Development isn't dead it's just slowed. There are new phones to work with. It's more fun to dev on a phone that's new and to an extent unknown than one that's pretty much given up all its secrets.
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deving for g1 n mytouch was regular no matter what new phones arrived.

koolkidjay1321 said:
deving for g1 n mytouch was regular no matter what new phones arrived.
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And both are still kicking even though they're more than a year old.

Ace42 said:
And both are still kicking even though they're more than a year old.
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The G1 is two years old.

Ace42 said:
And both are still kicking even though they're more than a year old.
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i guess thats cuz peoople bought into them, unlike the slide

arayray said:
So be patient, well be getting S-Off and Official Froyo soon
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I'll believe that when I see it...
The only dependable development for this handset comes from #teamdouche.

I just hope someone would port MyTouch 4G rom for the Mytouch Slide!!!!
really that would be the best accomplishment on his phone!
developers pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!

Tzatlacael said:
I just hope someone would port MyTouch 4G rom for the Mytouch Slide!!!!
really that would be the best accomplishment on his phone!
developers pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!
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I'm not a developer, but I do know that this would be an extremely difficult task due to different screen resolutions. Just wait for official TMO Slide 2.2 and we'll have some great roms no doubt about that.

guitarfreak846 said:
I'm not a developer, but I do know that this would be an extremely difficult task due to different screen resolutions. Just wait for official TMO Slide 2.2 and we'll have some great roms no doubt about that.
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I knew that resolution may be challenge, but If that issue is beaten then it'd bring more options, this phone would reach its top development. I know its difficult, but it seems that we won't even gonna get Froyo from t-mobile, but devs made it possible!
Sent from my HTC Espresso using XDA App

Tzatlacael said:
I knew that resolution may be challenge, but If that issue is beaten then it'd bring more options, this phone would reach its top development. I know its difficult, but it seems that we won't even gonna get Froyo from t-mobile, but devs made it possible!
Sent from my HTC Espresso using XDA App
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We are. T Mobile has confirmed it on many occasions. If froyo is on the myTouch 3G...we will 100% get it on the Slide.

By the time we get official Froyo, there will be Gingerbread already for some devices I think. I wish they skipped Froyo to release Gingerbread update instead.

From HTC and Tmo's standpoint, updating these phones is gotta be the last thing on there minds.
Face it updating these phones doesn't make them any money.
Frankly they'd both be happier if you just bought another phone.
Manufacturers and Telco's are in the business of selling phones and cellular service.
Not making FREE updates.
I realize if we had official froyo from Tmo and the bluze source that would add additional functionality to our phones,
but, personally I don't even care.
What I mean is that I'm satisfied with what team douche and the bunch, as well as other devs are doing and have done for our phone.
I put more faith in what they will come up with than waiting on anything from HTC and Tmo.

You people(not all) are impatient, I had a cliq and they promised us 2.1 update last december, you when cliq users got it? Acouple weeks ago! Ya ok it maybe a little while but if you had any consideration of what their doing, youd be a little more patient. They have port the whole rom to 2.2, some may say that isnt so hard you go and try and port a app or something from 2.1 to 2.2, Goodluck. Also I talked to Cheifz and he said S-Off is done for the Slide and AlphaRev is waiting to finish S-Off for another device so they can release both at the sametime.

guitarfreak846 said:
We are. T Mobile has confirmed it on many occasions. If froyo is on the myTouch 3G...we will 100% get it on the Slide.
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I see this claim bandied about often, but can anyone cite a press release to back this claim up? Anyone? Beuller? Yeah...

HebrewToYou said:
I see this claim bandied about often, but can anyone cite a press release to back this claim up? Anyone? Beuller? Yeah...
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http://www.tmonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/android22mytouch3g.png
Third paragraph.

11/19/10 HTC Hero Maintenance Release 2.32.651.2

I'm rooted with the .7 update (used superoneclick).
If anyone updates to this new version can you please post here to let me know if it breaks root.....or anything else.
thanks
HTC Hero Maintenance Release 2.32.651.2
Fixes:
• Correct a non-customer impacting issue (device diagnostics)
• MMS issue with contact number format
• Updated Sprint Zone application
Update your software
• Go to All Applications
• Tap Settings > About Phone > System Updates > HTC Software Update
• Select Check Now
• Follow the on-screen instructions to download the update
Important Notes:
This update will take approximately 5-10 minutes to download and 5-10 minutes to install.
The new software version is: 2.32.651.2
This update may be released in stages; if you do not see the update on your phone immediately, please be patient.

Link:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/232287#232287
Take the time for this... but can't take the time to do 2.2

yea its BS. My Friend has the T-moble mytouch 3g and he just got the 2.2 update. That phone is older and has less ram with the same processor as our CDMA Hero.
How come t-moble cares about old phones but sprint does not?

@firehawk if you get the update just download it and use adb to pull it off your phone and 7zip (or extraction tool of your choice) to open it up and have a looksy. You don't have to install it right away or at all.
By the way sprint doesn't care about us anymore

My comment to one of the admins
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/232207#232207

copc said:
My comment to one of the admins
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/232207#232207
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They always like it when you post those kind of comments I'm just glad darch zenulator infinitefx and decadence still like us

Firehawk_1066 said:
yea its BS. My Friend has the T-moble mytouch 3g and he just got the 2.2 update. That phone is older and has less ram with the same processor as our CDMA Hero.
How come t-moble cares about old phones but sprint does not?
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You can't compare the MyTouch 3G (MT3G)and the Hero. Have you thought of the fact that the MT3G is based off the simple AOSP? It's as basic as it gets for the Android update process. Google effectively did most of the work, and HTC/T-Mobile just takes it and makes it compatible with the MT3G.
The Hero is built on the Sense framework. So that whole thing needs to be redone for 2.2... so HTC/Sprint has to do a lot more work than it did for the MT3G. As a company with something like a dozen newer Android devices, it's just not economical to spend resources on maintaining it. It sucks, but that's how the tech industry works (and that's also why we have awesome developers working on CM6 for us).

It seems to me with another update they could've given us froyo. I bet that this new update will mess up root again so I'm not going to update it til it can be used with root.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

greengiant1969 said:
It seems to me with another update they could've given us froyo. I bet that this new update will mess up root again so I'm not going to update it til it can be used with root.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
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Every update does and it probably messes up the ability to flash the phones to other carriers even more. get your s-off while it's hot!!!

greengiant1969 said:
It seems to me with another update they could've given us froyo. I bet that this new update will mess up root again so I'm not going to update it til it can be used with root.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
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All updates break root.

Sense is the reason we don't have a real froyo update, and never will.
Manufacturers interfaces need to die a terrible death.
Sent from my bathroom, with toilet paper.

Zardos66 said:
Sense is the reason we don't have a real froyo update, and never will.
Manufacturers interfaces need to die a terrible death.
Sent from my bathroom, with toilet paper.
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Well if that is the case then why doesnt my wife have 2.2 on her Samsung Moment?

Firehawk_1066 said:
Well if that is the case then why doesnt my wife have 2.2 on her Samsung Moment?
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I've been asking this same question. It seems like the dev's over at SDX aren't as ambitious as the ones here.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

Firehawk_1066 said:
Well if that is the case then why doesnt my wife have 2.2 on her Samsung Moment?
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One reason is Samsung is lazy. They have been known to leave their customers hanging, like that awful Behold II incident where customers were promised 2.1 and instead Samsung abandoned everyone with 1.6. Even their high end Galaxy S is taking them until Jan or Feb next year to come out. Even if the Moment is built on AOSP it doesn't mean Samsung can just cut and paste the Google code and be done with it. They have to actually do some work to get it fully compatible, but I suspect Samsung does not want to invest in the amount of effort required to do so. I expect Samsung would have many different components and required drivers from HTC devices, so getting them compatible with 2.2 might be giving the sdx devs some trouble.

stayclean said:
All updates break root.
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Correct

Zardos66 said:
Sense is the reason we don't have a real froyo update, and never will.
Manufacturers interfaces need to die a terrible death.
Sent from my bathroom, with toilet paper.
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And also because they want you to buy newer phones

I am sure you guys saw this, but the answer to the original OP, yes you can root it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847993

mtnchkn said:
I am sure you guys saw this, but the answer to the original OP, yes you can root it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847993
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hey actually I didn't see this...thanks!!

I'm kinda new to all this. I have tried downloading from the htc website and it says the data is corrupt. Is there a place to download it from anywhere else & how would I do it?

New Version 3.70.651.1

Didn't see any posts about this, but it came across today at work. it said release date was 12-13, but that was yesterday, so....
Unfortunately, i don't have the exact changelog in front of me, but it included some pretty cool stuff, like Swype keyboard, a try it/buy it game from gamesoft, and others.
anyone else hear about this update?

prdstm0nke said:
Didn't see any posts about this, but it came across today at work. it said release date was 12-13, but that was yesterday, so....
Unfortunately, i don't have the exact changelog in front of me, but it included some pretty cool stuff, like Swype keyboard, a try it/buy it game from gamesoft, and others.
anyone else hear about this update?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=873376

I am surprised more folks aren't talking about this

xlGmanlx said:
I am surprised more folks aren't talking about this
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a minor update with nothing particularly interesting? Oh god stop the press!

Hey thanks for being a jackass, but apparently you work for sprint and know for sure that's all it is. Appreciate you taking time out of your busy day at sprint to update us
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a minor update with nothing particularly interesting? Oh god stop the press!
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xlGmanlx said:
I am surprised more folks aren't talking about this
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This + This + This = Hard to get excited about a stock ROM that packs in more bloat.
As a side personal note, I've been furiously working on a revamped Gingerbread theme so I'm ready and anxiously waiting.
PS: I know added absolutely nothing to this thread.

Hard to get excited about ugly aosp. And yes your post had no value added to the thread. Based off their release numbers this would be a significant jump, could be something could be nothing. It's getting bot like to hear the tired old line of bloatware.......
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This + This + This = Hard to get excited about a stock ROM that packs in more bloat.
As a side personal note, I've been furiously working on a revamped Gingerbread theme so I'm ready and anxiously waiting.
PS: I know added absolutely nothing to this thread.
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xlGmanlx said:
Hard to get excited about ugly aosp. And yes your post had no value added to the thread. Based off their release numbers this would be a significant jump, could be something could be nothing. It's getting bot like to hear the tired old line of bloatware.......
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Want to talk about ugly? Lets talk HTC Sense. Anyway, the release log for this update is floating around, it pretty much just adds bloat. Enjoy.

xlGmanlx said:
Hey thanks for being a jackass, but apparently you work for sprint and know for sure that's all it is. Appreciate you taking time out of your busy day at sprint to update us
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and what exactly do you expect people to be talking about?
The only information anyone has seen is:
HTC - EVO 4G (A9292)
Software Version: 3.70.651.1
Release Date: 12/13/2010
Method: Available OTA + Retail
PRL Version: 60671
Version: 1.90_003
Hardware Version: 0002 / 0003
Fixes:
NEW FEATURES / SERVICES IN MR3
- Blockbuster (including WM DRM 10)
- Kindle eReader
- Preloaded try/buy video game: NOVA from Gameloft
- Sprint Zone update
- Latest Telenav
- Latest VVM App
- Latest Sprint TV app
- SWYPE Keyboard
- Scan Now Widget for 4G (does not need to be available on any panel, just a widget option users could find and use).
and noone even knows where that came from for sure.
What do *I* see in there? I see a bunch of new crap features and absolutely nothing under the "Fixes" section....

So you say bloatware but my phone feels fine, have fun repeating all the other crap other folks say. makes sense, you both were iphone owners, i wouldn't expect anything less
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Want to talk about ugly? Lets talk HTC Sense. Anyway, the release log for this update is floating around, it pretty much just adds bloat. Enjoy.
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Appreciate your uninformed response, oh wait ours both is. Appreciate you going out of your way to slurp cm though
deathsled said:
and what exactly do you expect people to be talking about?
The only information anyone has seen is:
HTC - EVO 4G (A9292)
Software Version: 3.70.651.1
Release Date: 12/13/2010
Method: Available OTA + Retail
PRL Version: 60671
Version: 1.90_003
Hardware Version: 0002 / 0003
Fixes:
NEW FEATURES / SERVICES IN MR3
- Blockbuster (including WM DRM 10)
- Kindle eReader
- Preloaded try/buy video game: NOVA from Gameloft
- Sprint Zone update
- Latest Telenav
- Latest VVM App
- Latest Sprint TV app
- SWYPE Keyboard
- Scan Now Widget for 4G (does not need to be available on any panel, just a widget option users could find and use).
and noone even knows where that came from for sure.
What do *I* see in there? I see a bunch of new crap features and absolutely nothing under the "Fixes" section....
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xlGmanlx said:
So you say bloatware but my phone feels fine, have fun repeating all the other crap other folks say
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That's what some people like to call consensus.
..and slurping CM? I slurp no man. If I wanted to I'd just buy a Nexus S or just get some of my developers to port it for me - but having someone like CM (and the other developers) is just a bit more convenient and non-stupid.
...and with that I exit this thread.

xlGmanlx said:
makes sense, you both were iphone owners, i wouldn't expect anything less
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oh no I owned an iphone for 2 years! Say you what you will but there's something to be said about a phone that doesn't need a firmware update every month or to be plugged in every 12 hours......
Don't get me wrong I love my Evo, I just wish it was as trusty as every other phone I've ever owned. In fact, I would go as far to say that technically the Evo is the most unreliable phone I've ever had. There's no way I'd turn my parents loose with one. It's the price you pay for technology though. It's strange to realize that the Evo is more powerful than my eeePC, runs longer on battery, and fits in my pocket. What an age we live in.
However, I had to cook my own rom just to get this thing "usable" in my book. With the iPhone it was just jailbreak and go....

deathsled said:
oh no I owned an iphone for 2 years! Say you what you will but there's something to be said about a phone that doesn't need a firmware update every month or to be plugged in every 12 hours......
Don't get me wrong I love my Evo, I just wish it was as trusty as every other phone I've ever owned. In fact, I would go as far to say that technically the Evo is the most unreliable phone I've ever had. There's no way I'd turn my parents loose with one. It's the price you pay for technology though. It's strange to realize that the Evo is more powerful than my eeePC, runs longer on battery, and fits in my pocket. What an age we live in.
However, I had to cook my own rom just to get this thing "usable" in my book. With the iPhone it was just jailbreak and go....
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So why are u here? Not that I care just tired of reading how ****ty the Evo is but people still got rid of their other phones for it. I'm sorry what rom did you cook? I still don't c it so it must not be anything special. Let me guess, you don't feel like releasing it?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

I just installed this software update, it really is just a bunch of bloatware. Is there a way to uninstall it?
Sent From My "EVO"

Is there some way to get the version of Swype from the new update and install it as a stand alone? I am a beta tester but would like a released version.

jeriel05 said:
I just installed this software update, it really is just a bunch of bloatware. Is there a way to uninstall it?
Sent From My "EVO"
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Root and use TitaniumBackup is the way to go.

12/15/2010 @ 7:32AM, Los Angeles, CA still no available OTA update for my Evo.

afreed1 said:
Is there some way to get the version of Swype from the new update and install it as a stand alone? I am a beta tester but would like a released version.
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This please
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

I downloaded and installed about 20 minutes ago. I'm in NY
I'm having a big swype issue though, i posted it here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874054

I you guys want to know here is the direct link to the OTA.
http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_supersonic_3.70.651.1-3.30.651.3_releasekobxwrvtv9q86pp0.zip
Enjoy

I asked HTC about why they didn't update the sense .

This is what HTC said about why the new OTA didn't get a sense update even tho alot of us were pissed about it.
I understand how important it is for you to have the latest software available for your device. We work with Sprint to determine which of their branded HTC devices will receive software updates. If your carrier does not request an update for the device we cannot create or host it. For the most up to date information regarding your carrier’s decision to update the device we recommend contacting them.
HTC cannot disclose any information regarding ROM updates until the carrier approves them. I cannot answer any questions or comments regarding any other company’s or manufacturer’s practices. I can tell you it is an industry standard to provide updates for a device for 18 months after its introduction. “Google has announced a partnership with manufacturers and cellular providers to keep all devices up-to-date in Android OS for an 18 month period from the date of launch. HTC and our native carriers were included in this list.
The one exception would be if a device's hardware does not meet the requirements of the update.” This refers to the base operating platform, Android, not the interface of the device. While we do make HTC Sense, our service providers have the final say on what is included in any update that is created for their branded devices.
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In a nut shell now: we're not giving you an updated sense because we want you to spend more money to get the latest software. We only see this $_$
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dirkyd3rk said:
In a nut shell now: we're not giving you an updated sense because we want you to spend more money to get the latest software. We only see this $_$
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Ya that pretty much sums it up. Money talks bull**** walks. Kinda blows happy Virus is making some progress on the Kingdom rom with the new sense 3.0.

reaper24 said:
Ya that pretty much sums it up. Money talks bull**** walks. Kinda blows happy Virus is making some progress on the Kingdom rom with the new sense 3.0.
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Haven't tried it yet. All those roms you have to partition your sdcard ext2/3 etc I tend to avoid lol. I've only tried sense 2.1 never ran 3.0 yet. How cool is it?
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Might I also suggest mikg v1.02. Runs flawlessly.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Haven't tried it yet. All those roms you have to partition your sdcard ext2/3 etc I tend to avoid lol. I've only tried sense 2.1 never ran 3.0 yet. How cool is it?
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So far on the newest ones he has done on his site you don't have to partition your SD card he made it smaller. I haven't done it to mine I ran it last night for a few hours to check it out. The kingdom is eye candy looks great has issues with sense restarting and YouTube is laggy. It's pretty cool worth checking out. The rom is trick man.
The most stable 2.1 is virus Synergy Rom I'm loving it nightly build. I haven't had to partition my SD card for any ROM yet you can if you want to .

That sounded more to me like, "Don't ask us, ask Sprint" They're the ones that chose to not let you have the most up to date ROM we could have given you."

HipKat said:
That sounded more to me like, "Don't ask us, ask Sprint" They're the ones that chose to not let you have the most up to date ROM we could have given you."
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I know lol think EVO users should ***** at Sprint for it . I was just asking why and that is what HTC was pretty much saying Sprint is the one to blame.

reaper24 said:
I know lol think EVO users should ***** at Sprint for it . I was just asking why and that is what HTC was pretty much saying Sprint is the one to blame.
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What's even more pathetic is that Sprint Rep told me the DAY BEFORE THE UPDATE was announced that the Evo would never get GB.....
Idiots...

HipKat said:
What's even more pathetic is that Sprint Rep told me the DAY BEFORE THE UPDATE was announced that the Evo would never get GB.....
Idiots...
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Ya they tend to be a pain in the ass when asking for information. Sad the EVO is a great phone and could run sense 3.0 with no problem but Sprint is all about making money and are gonna screw us over on updates.

reaper24 said:
Ya they tend to be a pain in the ass when asking for information. Sad the EVO is a great phone and could run sense 3.0 with no problem but Sprint is all about making money and are gonna screw us over on updates.
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It's called marketing 101. Why would you give the oldest phone the same enhancements as the new one? aren't businesses in business to actually make money and to protect their shareholders?
ropodope
Sent from my Vaelpak GB AOSP Preview Edition v0.1 for Evo 4g. Flash and ye shall receive.

ropodope said:
It's called marketing 101. Why would you give the oldest phone the same enhancements as the new one? aren't businesses in business to actually make money and to protect their shareholders?
ropodope
Sent from my Vaelpak GB AOSP Preview Edition v0.1 for Evo 4g. Flash and ye shall receive.
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Still blows lol a great phone there letting fall behind. They can suck at times.

Well its all about Sprint not wanting to pay for the updated Sense. Anyways thanks to Mik, we have the closest thing to Sense 3.0 with Sense 2.1. It is the best Sense rom I have ever used on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
Check it out!

Mikee4fun said:
Well its all about Sprint not wanting to pay for the updated Sense. Anyways thanks to Mik, we have the closest thing to Sense 3.0 with Sense 2.1. It is the best Sense rom I have ever used on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
Check it out!
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Lol thanks virus ROM synergy is sweet using it. You should check his work also he fixed alot of it.

Why desperate for 3.0?
I am trying to understand why everyone is so desperate for Sense 3.0. I have run the leaked GB with Sense 3 and it is no great shakes - mostly window dressing with very little added functionality. I went back to a previous version of Sense just because it is simpler and does 99% the same stuff.
I really do not see people buying a phone in order to get the next version of Sense...

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I really do not see people buying a phone in order to get the next version of Sense...
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I agree with this part. I am not looking at buying for Sense 3.0. I am buying the EVO3D for the updated hardware. Also I am sure that I am not the only one.

animal7296 said:
I agree with this part. I am not looking at buying for Sense 3.0. I am buying the EVO3D for the updated hardware. Also I am sure that I am not the only one.
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I will buy it for the hardware too! The 3D looks great. I was referring to someone else who indicated that the version of sense would be a reason to buy (or not buy) a phone. When in my opinion, later versions of Sense do almost nothing new for the phone.
Just my opinion after using 3.0 for a week or so.

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I will buy it for the hardware too! The 3D looks great. I was referring to someone else who indicated that the version of sense would be a reason to buy (or not buy) a phone. When in my opinion, later versions of Sense do almost nothing new for the phone.
Just my opinion after using 3.0 for a week or so.
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Yeah I was just agreeing with you.

ronnienyc said:
I am trying to understand why everyone is so desperate for Sense 3.0. I have run the leaked GB with Sense 3 and it is no great shakes - mostly window dressing with very little added functionality.
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Wait, what???
I'm sorry, but having the Quick Settings in the task bar pull down, the last used apps in there, too, a better lock screen system, better apk management, more options, etc, etc, is NOT just window dressing

HipKat said:
Wait, what???
I'm sorry, but having the Quick Settings in the task bar pull down, the last used apps in there, too, a better lock screen system, better apk management, more options, etc, etc, is NOT just window dressing
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No, that's also not exclusively Sense 3.0, which is what he was talking about. that can be seen in Sense 2.1 Which actually runs very nice on the EVO.
I've tried both Virus B1.1.3 (Sense 3.) and MikG 1.01 and 1.02 (Sense 2.1 + 3)
Here is my experience.
Virus's Revolution B1.1 and up REQUIRES SD Partition. flashing the ROM will WIPE THE SD CARD, it states it right on the tutorial. "Back up yo ****, this is deletin' yall!!" (Paraphrasing.)
After doing everything, backing up SD, partitioning card, converting partition, installing ROM. it is VERY pretty, the carousel effect is hypnotizing. But it just wasn't stable enough and wasn't fast enough for my liking. Apps frequently crashed and the Rosie kept needing to restart because it was too big to sit in the Memory. I even did all the tricks to try and keep it from having to do that.
MikG 1.02 is pretty quick, not the fastest ROM I've ever used, but in terms of other Sense roms, it's right up there with the rest of them. Really, the only thing I can see that is missing from the pure Sense 3 variant is the carouselling Homescreen and huge updated Weather widget. the Weather app that opens looks like Sense 3 though, which is odd, because in Virus's it's Sense 1 or 2.