Below are a list of things affecting Evo owners:
1 - 2D and GL capped at 30FPS
2 - Laggy touch input (possibly related to the fps cap)
3 - Improperly grounded touchscreen
4 - HORRIBLE battery http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/99120-interesting-observation-batterys.html
5 - Bad Wifi reception
6 - Bad headphone jacks - FIX
7 - Glass Seperation
If i've forgotten anything let me know.
Do these mean your going to return the phone in the 30 day refund window because of the issues? Or are you mainly trying to bring these issues to light to see if they can be fixed?
3. Will never be fixed
4. Battery life is directly related to two things. Use and intelligence of the user. I get great battery life even with heavy / moderate use.
The other two will be fixed at some point.
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Do these mean your going to return the phone in the 30 day refund window because of the issues? Or are you mainly trying to bring these issues to light to see if they can be fixed?
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Just trying to list all the problems in one place.
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3. Will never be fixed
4. Battery life is directly related to two things. Use and intelligence of the user. I get great battery life even with heavy / moderate use.
The other two will be fixed at some point.
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Why will 3 never be fixed?
And I disagree, my battery drops 25% in an hour with very little usage and nothing running in the background
You need to look at your settings my battery lasts all day
You either have a defective phone or don't know if you actually have anything running in the background.
Either way there is an abundance of information here to figure out which. There will be those that fix their problems and those that just ***** about them.
I have to agree with Aridon, my battery life is fine. It's close to most other smartphones I have used. Not the best, but certainly in line with my expectations.
There is a lot of info on these forums already to improve battery life.
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You either have a defective phone or don't know if you actually have anything running in the background.
Either way there is an abundance of information here to figure out which. There will be those that fix their problems and those that just ***** about them.
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Well i'm not so much *****ing about the battery (but lots of people are in the other threads), i'm more worried about the touch screen and such.
If you want to use the screen laying down on its back with one finger just plug it in and it will work fine. This issue, I don't see it as an issue but whatever, will not change. A software fix isn't going to suddenly complete a physical circuit. If you plug the device in it works just like you are holding it.
As for the touch sensor and fps these will eventually get resolved. The device has been out a week. We are lucky to be where we are development wise this early in. some things are going too take time. We are lucky to have root and recovery this early and system access is coming.
The battery issue can be taken care of easily. Root, remove all the social network **** and all the bloatware. Then test your battery. If it still sucks then bring the phone back for a replacement. Unless you are constantly searching for signal our using the device with heavy steaming there is no way you should be losing 25% an hour.
The evo is currentlly incapable of transmitting data over a 1xrtt 2g connection. HUGE issue that hasn't been reported.
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aww, see I came from an android phone without wifi, so i'm used to not being able to rely on it lol.
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How dare you mrono not add the Wi-Fi issue to this list just because you had an android phone without it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699459
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The evo is currentlly incapable of transmitting data over a 1xrtt 2g connection. HUGE issue that hasn't been reported.
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Alright, got a thread about it?
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How dare you mrono not add the Wi-Fi issue to this list just because you had an android phone without it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699459
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sorry I added it.
I was under the impression that the improper grounding of the touchscreen was an issue that only effects a few of the Evos. They are all that way? May be a deal breaker for me.
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I was under the impression that the improper grounding of the touchscreen was an issue that only effects a few of the Evos. They are all that way? May be a deal breaker for me.
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It's only a few, check out the thread
I agree, my battery life is very acceptable.
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4. Battery life is directly related to two things. Use and intelligence of the user. I get great battery life even with heavy / moderate use.
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aww, see I came from an android phone without wifi, so i'm used to not being able to rely on it lol.
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How dare you mrono not add the Wi-Fi issue to this list just because you had an android phone without it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699459
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The hero used to have an issue connecting to wifi if wireless n was turned on at the router. I wonder if this is a similar issue we're experiencing on the evo. I have no problem connecting to wifi at my house, but I have wireless n disabled on my router.
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Just trying to list all the problems in one place.
Why will 3 never be fixed?
And I disagree, my battery drops 25% in an hour with very little usage and nothing running in the background
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Can your task manager show hidden apps? I think Advanced Task Manager has this option. Something like: "Menu, settings, process level" Then you can see all the hidden processes that are running (Sprint apps, etc)
Battery life is totally dependent on how you use your phone and your settings. Yesterday, under normal use, I went 17.5 hours off charge and still had 20% battery remaining. I use my phone for work email, personal email, calling, texting, surfing the web, watching vids, taking pics, navigation etc.
My EVO has as good if not better battery life than my Hero. You just have to know how to set it up.
I have issues with the gmail app. Sometimes it does not respond when I hit reply. Often have to exit the email and then return for it to work.
Sometimes get sms errors when trying to hold back to back conversations.
one more issue
Headphone Jack Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698699
Culprit (supposedly) Identified: http://www.androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/98880-fixed-microphone-jack-problem.html
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Below are a list of things affecting Evo owners:
1 - 2D and GL capped at 30FPS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699290
2 - Laggy touch input (possibly related to the fps cap) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699891
3 - Improperly grounded touchscreen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700612
4 - HORRIBLE battery http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=652
5 - Bad Wifi reception - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699459
If i've forgotten anything let me know.
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Is the N1 really plagued with so many problems, or are some people nit-picking and creating issues which aren't there? Forums are all filled up with these "issues" threads. Issue this, issue that. I would like to cancel them out with a POSITIVE thread.
I've had 2 N1's - the Tmobile and ATT versions.
- NO dust under the screen issues
- NO 3g issue for ATT (I didn't have 3g Tmobile)
- NO purple tinting on ATT
- NO battery life issues - mine lasts 30 hours with moderate use. CM5053. Tmobile version lasted just as long
- NO MMS issues
- NO build quality issues - it's built like a tank.
- NO regrets
I am dusting iphones left and right with speed and connection quality. Just yesterday in a movie theater my friend's 3gs had data issues while my N1 worked perfectly. I turned on my wifi tethering so that he could finish downloading his apps and checking his messages through my N1.
Am I just lucky or in the minority? Chime in if you also have no problems and are tired of seeing all these "issue" threads creating a negative stigma toward the N1. It's the best smartphone experience I've ever had. No problems here!
I'm also in the same boat as you, I have has no issues whatsoever.. I'm pretty happy with Nexus!
Same here... tMo N1 with no problems what-so-ever... no issue, no regrets... the best phone I've had... and with all the superb mods and ROMs out here, it's kicks ass anytime!!!
LOL N1 had to share internets the iPhone
Keep in mind people only post when they have problems. The majority of us don't have any problems.
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Got a chuckle out of that one myself.
about the perfect phone
I also have not had any problems
my battery is perfect
my screen is perfect
my 3g is perfect
This phone Rocks
i love it...
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- NO battery life issues - mine lasts 30 hours with moderate use. CM5053. Tmobile version lasted just as long
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please describe what you consider moderate usage? theres no way my n1 goes 30 hours with what i consider moderate
It's too early to tell for me on some of the issues, but no 3g problems no battery. issues so far. I love this thing.
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Yes, I agree. I think too many people are picky, or don't know how to maintain there widgets or automatically updating widgets correctly causing battery drains or touching the screen with the hand their holding it with and then trying to scroll with the other. I Think the 3G Issue is relevant to the coverag area their in....
I do think the dust issue is real on some, (not mine) and the antenna could have been placed better...
That said, I have no issues either.... I love my nexus one so much I actually have been neglecting my wife and need to put this thing down.. this is after 3 months almost.
There's a lot of haters on this phone, hate all ya want when we get froyo first and yall gotta wait for htc and then ya provider to push out updates.
i think you only hear from users with problems on forums. happy users hav no reason to post.
i had the dust issue on my first tmobile nexus but got it replaced
so far so good. this phone is amazing.
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please describe what you consider moderate usage? theres no way my n1 goes 30 hours with what i consider moderate
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I should have said 30 hours with tweaking. I have:
- CM5053
- pershoot ocuv
- juice defender app
- force edge at work (since I don't get 3g in the office. Preventing the radio from constantly jumping/searching saves a lot of battery)
During a normal day:
- unplug at 1am
- wake up at 7am with 93%, turn on juice defender
- browse web for 1/2 hour before i actually get up
- browse web/play games for 45 minute commute
- force edge at work, light web browsing/email until 6pm (around 50-60% remaining by late afternoon)
- browse web/play games for 1 hr commute back home
- turn off juice defender at home, back on wifi
- light playing around here and there.
- by 10pm or so, i still have 30% remaining or more before I recharge.
- texts/gchat/check twitter throughout the day.
- on "light" use (barely touching phone throughout the day), i reached 27 hours and still had 20% remaining. I had to force the remaining 20% to drain with nonstop Homerun Battle 3d because I was recalibrating my battery at the time and needed to go to sleep.
- When my phone is idle on wifi or edge, I lose less than 2% per hour. On 3G, less than 3%. It's hard to be exact, but my juice plotter graph is very flat during idle.
- I think it's very much ROM/tweak based. I jumped from CM to Modaco's Desire Alpha 7 ROM way back before, and my battery life dropped about 35% compared to CM at the time and I could not make it back home from work without the phone almost dying. I don't remember what it was like on stock ROM, haven't been there in a while.
- Right now, I never worry about charging for the entire day because I know I'll always make it back home with extra battery remaining, unless it's a Friday and I stay out late at night.
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No issues here either. I agree you only hear from people with problems. No one is going to start a thread to report that their phone is working as it should.
People also have a lot of issues on iPhone forums. Just looking at MacRumors it looks like 90% are problems and 10% are "how do I...?" The problems cover the whole spectrum. Stuck at boot logo, data not working, sync problems, and even an "An Apple Genius f**ked up my iPhone..."
Mine is ideal too -- USB tethered it to PCs, Macs and Linux boxes all over NAB tradeshow with my T-Mobile version, got >200KB/sec while poor iphones couldn't even tether at all. Excellent battery life, fast, sexy, responsive, totally rock solid and plenty of space for USB files on my SD card... hard to see how an iphone could beat it.
My N1 with AVS kernel by IntersectRaven just lasted about 27hours yesterday So its possible. Moderate use, Browser, Games: World War, Pocket mobile, iMobster, Armageddon Squadron and a little bit of music player used.
No problems with my N1 here too, except the 3g isnt that great when im in certain areas since I got T-Mobile, but when I get good connection the N1 flies.
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Let us know when you start encountering the touchscreen issues that 90% or more of N1 users are facing.
Only issue with mine is build quality. the aluminum frame where engraving could be done isnt flush with the battery and antenna covers. imo not a big deal but it doesnt fit perfectly in the desk dock
I've had my N1 since Jan 16 never had touch screen issues.
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no issues for me either. I have to wonder where all the issues come from too. like I'll read someone complain that they can't type well with the keyboard and use that to bash the phone, yet I don't have any issues with it.
of course I get the occasional touch screen glitch. but a quick 1 second turn off the screen resets it.
and the battery life is short, but the iPhone forums show the same complaints so it seems to me to be inherent of large screened phones.
I love this phone!
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I came from an iphone and the nexus one has been amazing. Just having the "back" button functionality alone is worth the price of admission. I always dreaded clicking on URLs in apps on the iphone as it usually meant losing what I had going on in that app. Not anymore! And I loving the fact that I can personalize almost every part of the phone.
That being said, I have a very hard time believing that anyone is satisfied with the reception of this phone. I have never owned a phone before that dropped calls because I moved my hand to the wrong spot. It's embarrassing.
If you just wanna see my tips then skip over the next few paragraphs lol!
Hi! I am not sure if this exactly has been posted already, or if it's common knowledge and I am just slow lol, but the last couple days I found out how to maximize the battery life on my phone by (imho) a huge amount. And I wanted to share with the community.
So before I did this, I'd generally get maybe six to eight hours of uptime before the battery was critically low. This was really frustrating because by the time I got home from work my phone would be almost dead. So I'd charge it in my car for a little bit, but then when I went out I'd have to turn off Wifi, GPS, Bluetooth, brightness all the way down etc. just to have enough battery to survive the night.
But now I managed to get 18-24 hours out of a single charge, without having to manually touch the settings too too much (GPS/Bluetooth when I need them.) Now I think a lot of this depends on your personal usage, but for me this worked great. And here is how I did it:
1. Disabling/making less frequent updates in apps. For me this was Twidroid, Facebook, and NewsRob. I realized that I keep notifications off for these apps (I don't need to see a notification everytime someone I follow tweets you know?) and that even when they were all set to auto-refresh every 30 minutes or whatever, I STILL always hit refresh when I went in anyway. So I disable automatic updating. Obviously this depends on your usage, but for me, I didn't need up to the minute social networking information, and manually refresh anyway. But I went through all my apps that updated automatically and changed the setting.
2. Task Killing. In a perfect world, Android would efficiently manage it's own app load, but unfortunately the world isn't perfect. I found that if I know I'm going to be putting my phone down for a while, take a second and kill all the runnings apps. I use Astro, but there are countless apps that can do this for you. This is something I don't do frequently, but for example, if I'm going to go to bed and I don't have my charger, but want my phone on in case of an emergency, I'll kill all the running apps.
3. Brightness. After weeks of changing it back and forth because I don't really love the way it auto adjusts, I just said f**k it and put in auto. While sometimes the level of brightness it selects seems a little whack, it's definitely saved battery life. And saves me the trouble of changing it myself. I also found that setting the timeout to 15 seconds seemed to improve battery life.
4. Juice Defender. You can find this app on the marketplace. It has two modes, easy and advanced. If you want, you can go into the advanced and set schedules and all kinds of stuff. But for me, I just went into easy and hit enable. From what I understand, what this does is that if the screen is off, it disables network access for 14 minutes, turns it back on for 1, then off again for 14 etc. So, something like Gmail which is push will only be able to access the network every 15 minutes. Unless you are on WiFi. Now, if you NEED push e-mail and don't have WiFi, this isn't a very good solution. But according the stats in the app itself this has given me a 99% increase in battery life, and I believe it.
5. The trackball. This is perhaps the weirdest of my findings. The trackball light apparently can DESTROY the battery life. The other morning at around 80% I let my alarm on the phone go off and didn't stop it, so the trackball was flashing really fast. Without a couple hours the phone was completely dead. Nuts right? So I found that if I disable the trackball light when I know that I won't be able to dismiss my notifications quickly (like in a meeting or sleeping or whatnot) I'm able to avoid this happening.
6. GPS/Bluetooth. Again, this might seem very case specific, but I use bluetooth ONLY with my rokr headset when I'm on campus at night, and I use GPS only for navigation. So I keep the off when I'm not using them. With the power strip widget this isn't very difficult.
Anyway, that's it really. Like I said, maybe this is all common knowledge and I am just stupid haha. But I figured if not, I was pretty thrilled to go from 6 hours to 24 hours without having to do too much. BTW, some weird things I found didn't have an effect as much as I thought they would - 2g/3g, I actually got MORE battery life when I had 3g enabled. And WiFi was the same way, even when I didn't have a wifi connection, the difference in life with having it on or off was negligible.
Anyway, I hope this is helpful! If I remember anything else I'll add it.
I really like this guide and I'm going to use it when I get my n1. I like all (and will try) of the steps except #5.. the trackball notifications is just too sweet to ever turn off imo. Thanks for the guide.
I'm really surprised to hear that your LED light in the trackball destroyed your battery life
I don't bother killing apps anymore. Since they're not in focus their not using the CPU so whats the point. (right?)
I dont have rubbish notifications on either, nor bluetooth/GPS unless needed. Ive got auto brightness on too.... might try juicedefender in future actually, it does sound good.
So what did you triple your battery life from anyway... 12 hours?
cymru said:
So what did you triple your battery life from anyway... 12 hours?
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only about 6-8 hours.
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I'm really surprised to hear that your LED light in the trackball destroyed your battery life
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I was too but I duplicated that scenario a few times to make sure. Also, it might matter that I am running trackball succession and color hacks.
Trackball succession is killing your battery, not the trackball light.
only about 6-8 hours.
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Oh....
Mines gets over 48 hours no problems anyway.
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Oh....
Mines gets over 48 hours no problems anyway.
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Geez, whats your secret?
ChillRays said:
Geez, whats your secret?
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I second that, holy crap lol.
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Oh....
Mines gets over 48 hours no problems anyway.
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!!! Were you hit by lightening as a child or something? I can only conclude your natural charge is keeping it going :->
Also - OP - nice set of tips - thanks
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Mines gets over 48 hours no problems anyway.
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Wow... I only get that good of a battery life if I turn my N1 off!
Are you guys being serious?!
I am indeed consistently getting 48 hours battery life...
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Are you guys being serious?!
I am indeed consistently getting 48 hours battery life...
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48 is on the high side of things... I usually go to bed with about 40% remaining, and put it on the charger overnight... I get up at 8AM and go to bed around 12AM. So I am getting about 26 hours out of mine.
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Accidently typed in 36 when I meant to type 26. Fixed.
I have a noob question, which this forum is how I get most of my N1 knowledge...
Which uses up more battery life, 3G or wifi?
Thanks to whoever replies.. (my best guess would be 3G)
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48 is on the high side of things... I usually go to bed with about 40% remaining, and put it on the charger overnight... I get up at 8AM and go to bed around 12AM. So I am getting about 36 hours out of mine.
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That's actually 26 hours.
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That's actually 26 hours.
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Which is still a lot. I'd really like to know how you are doing this. Do you make any voice calls? Do you text/e-mail a lot? Watch videos? Browse the web? Play music etc.?
I mean my usage is based on maybe an hour a day of talking on the phone, and a few hundred text messages, maybe a couple e-mails, frequent twitter/Facebook updates, and maybe a couple hours a day of playing games, watching videos, reading news etc.
I imagine if I just left the phone there it'd be close to 26-30 hours, but not with regular use.
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I don't bother killing apps anymore. Since they're not in focus their not using the CPU so whats the point. (right?)
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Erm, this is not correct, is it?
The whole point of multitasking means things still carry on when not in focus. If you leave everything running, they will all try and use data and CPU cycles, no?
Some nice suggestions there c0wb0ycliche! Thanks.
A couple of other thoughts/suggestions...
1. In the choices of kernels, pershoots is regarded as being excellent with battery life (partly from being undervolted I imagine) and the fact it's also overclocked at the same time ain't so bad either.
2. Not sure how much extra juice is saved by not using a Live Wallpaper, but if we're talking about battery savings here it might as well be said.
I would not be surprised if a large majority of people who get 25+ hrs hook onto wifi networks for a majority of the data usage. When switching to wifi the phone steps down to 2g mode for phone services.
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Erm, this is not correct, is it?
The whole point of multitasking means things still carry on when not in focus. If you leave everything running, they will all try and use data and CPU cycles, no?
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No. Some applications have sister services that do this, but not all applications.
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1. In the choices of kernels, pershoots is regarded as being excellent with battery life (partly from being undervolted I imagine) and the fact it's also overclocked at the same time ain't so bad either.
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Good point, has anyone mentioned SetCPU? If you set up a profile, it will lower your clock speed to 300mhz while the screen is off. Saves quite a bit of power.
My battery made it to 1:00 o'clock today with the new 2.2 update that i did last night. It normally lasts till 11 - 12 at night. Whats up with that?
FYI - All the same apps,widgets, and settings
**UPDATE**
Doing a factory reset fixed the problem for me!!
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My battery made it to 1:00 o'clock today with the new 2.2 update that i did last night. It normally lasts till 11 - 12 at night. Whats up with that?
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Strange, I'm sitting at 75% after 5 hours off the charger and using it for moderate text usage (probably less than 80 messages today). Usually around this time it's sitting closer to 60%.
i have the .3 update and went from about 24 hours to about 8-10 hours. Battery life cut in half. My friend who has .3 is having same issue too. So much for increasing battery life.
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i have the .3 update and went from about 24 hours to about 8-10 hours. Battery life cut in half. My friend who has .3 is having same issue too. So much for increasing battery life.
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Wow. Have you searched the forum to see if anyone else has the same issue? If not I hope it's not an isolated incident. Then again if it's isolated maybe you can get support on it better...? Good luck finding a solution.
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
yeah some people are reporting bad battery life after update. most people i know are on .3. don't know if .6 fixes this hopefully we get update soon
I did a test last night. Dropped 13% between 1130 and 3:30am With wifi on (got up cause of baby), then only 10% between 330 and 8am with wifi off. So a drop of only 23% overnight.
That's with one exchange account, one gmail account (both syncing as items arrive), htc news set to not sync, but newsdesk and feedr both syncing. Facebook for htc set to sync contacts only.
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I had the same issue on all 2.2 ROMs I tried.. i am now going through the apps one at a time to see which one is the issue.
right now I am 7 hours in and sitting at 75% very light use ( read about 7 emails, 5 new articles and little to no Web surfing). installed 10s so far other than the standard with Fresh latest ROM that is.
I've actually had very good battery life, I'm running the .3 release. Battery life for me has been very comparable to running Baked Snack 9.6, with its underclocking/undervolting power save features. Moderate use of the phone for 8 hours (wifi, browsing websites here and there, one navigation route, texting, bunch of short phone calls, playing some games), my battery was around 65 or so, same as I had before for similar usage.
I did do a full wipe though, and haven't calibrated my battery since updating.
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You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
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I am just stating a observation on my part. And i know all the little tricks of how to get better battery life. But like i said, before the update i was getting a full day of battery and now after the update i am getting half. With the same settings and the usage on my part.
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I am just stating a observation on my part. And i know all the little tricks of how to get better battery life. But like i said, before the update i was getting a full day of battery and now after the update i am getting half. With the same settings and the usage on my part.
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maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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Yeah, i already went through all the settings last night.
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You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
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This is not directed at you personally, but at the words you chose to use:
I am sick and tired of "tweaks and settings and cutting things off." I used them and got over 30 hours on both DamageControl and Fresh.
I paid Sprint/HTC good money for this awesome phone (and am committed to pay them a whole lot more over the course of the next 22 months).
While I can understand the 4G thing, why should I have to cut off Data-WiFi-Bluetooth, power down the CPU, not use it a lot in order to get... in short, drive it like a Toyota Prius when then phone is billed as a Maserati? Why should I have to try out this app and that app(Overclock widget, SetCPU, System Manager, Task Killer, Autostarts etc which all use battery too) in order to get the phone to do what it should have done on June 4, 2010?
Most of the battery draining apps and widgets come pre-loaded with sense (i.e. the Favorite widget, Friendstream etc). Why should I have to resort to rooting my phone or not using it in order to get the thing to last all day?
I'm keeping my EVO cause I love the device, but maybe Sprint/HTC need a little of the medicine that Jobs/Apple is getting in the form of lawsuits due to over-promising/under-delivering.
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You should send that rant to HTC and Sprint... I think we all stand behind you on that one.
there are lots of reasons a battery might not last. there are way to many tweaks out there which is why you have to do it yourself.
First set the phone up like you normally have it and test the battery life. if you can live with it your good. if not start looking at the settings. Read the tweaks but don't just take them as golden as everyone is different and uses their phone different. Ask yourself if you real need that setting. (I like my screen time out at 2 min. do I need it NO 1 min is fine). When done with the settings move to the apps. load the flat ROM no apps and run for a hour and track your battery life. then add the apps 1 at a time or in small groups and let run an hour and track. there are was if find what apps are using the CPU or Battery but many do this normally and yet don't effect the battery much. Only way i have found is old school add them one at a time. When you find a bad one decide if you need it or can find a replacement.
I am done with Sense as Launcher Pro Plus is awesome and now with the only Widget I was missing (Calendar). Once I done going through my app list I will create a new thread in General to list the bad application I found unless someone else has or does before I done that is.
From what I have gathered from using .3 that apps auto sync/update on their own now with "always on mobile data" turned off. if you use advanced task killer, do a kill of all apps then turn the screen off. If you wait for a few minutes and turn the screen back on you will notice that apps like news, messages, Twitter, Facebook clock, weather and others will be active. From what I gather the decrease in battery life is from apps like those will send/receive data on 2.2 while on 2.1 apps would not update/sync until you manually refreshed or opened the app, as long as you didn't have "always on mobile data" enabled.
Edit: this reason is why I uninstalled fring. Just too bad I cannot uninstalled qik.
trojandnc said:
This is not directed at you personally, but at the words you chose to use:
I am sick and tired of "tweaks and settings and cutting things off." I used them and got over 30 hours on both DamageControl and Fresh.
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It is a mini-computer. You don't use it like a "phone" anymore. You shouldn't expect more than 15-20 hours on it. Do you get angry when your laptop runs out of life after 5-6 hours? If you don't want to do tweaks, then don't. Keep a micro-USB at your desk at work and charge it there. I, myself, enjoy rooting so I don't mind tweaking it. I also get 30 hours of life on it due to this. If you don't like to do that, you get what you put into it.
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I paid Sprint/HTC good money for this awesome phone (and am committed to pay them a whole lot more over the course of the next 22 months).
While I can understand the 4G thing, why should I have to cut off Data-WiFi-Bluetooth, power down the CPU, not use it a lot in order to get... in short, drive it like a Toyota Prius when then phone is billed as a Maserati? Why should I have to try out this app and that app(Overclock widget, SetCPU, System Manager, Task Killer, Autostarts etc which all use battery too) in order to get the phone to do what it should have done on June 4, 2010?
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Again, you have unrealistic expectations for a smart phone it seems. All I have is Set CPU running on my phone with Fresh 3.0.1 and works just fine. I still use my phone like a "Maserati", it just lowers the CPU when the screen is powered off. That is like saying you want your car to idle when you get home at night until the next morning. It doesn't change how you drive it, just how you store it in the garage.
trojandnc said:
Most of the battery draining apps and widgets come pre-loaded with sense (i.e. the Favorite widget, Friendstream etc). Why should I have to resort to rooting my phone or not using it in order to get the thing to last all day?
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You don't have to use them though. You can remove friendstream and go with either the twitter or FB update app or go without either and just check facebook like anyone else. As far as favorites go, you don't have to use that either. You can just make shortcuts to each person's phone number on that same screen if you think that is sucking all your battery life. There are always other options or fixes, but again you expect the phone to come out of the box perfect without any customization. You are getting away from what Android really is. Something tells me the Iphone would have been more your liking since it is built around lack of true customization. This isn't a rip, but just saying if you want cookie cutter phone reliability, it is hard to beat Apple. If you want the ability to tinker with the phone, the power to change things, and the power to make your phone yours, then that is more Android.
trojandnc said:
I'm keeping my EVO cause I love the device, but maybe Sprint/HTC need a little of the medicine that Jobs/Apple is getting in the form of lawsuits due to over-promising/under-delivering.
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I can understand your frustration, but nothing was ever promised to us on purchase. I don't remember anywhere seeing something saying the battery would last 30+ hours out of the box. Apple had an actual structural issue with their phone, that is why they had the lawsuits and PR nightmare. This is just the phone doing what most would probably expect(at least anyone who had a G1 or Hero or any of the earlier Android phones). You love the device enough to keep it even with your frustration, something tells me it works quite well for you. But I have yet to see any over-promising/under-delivering on the Evo myself.
And no, I don't work for Sprint or HTC. And no offense meant to you as a person, just I didn't understand your motives on your frustration. Guess we will have different opinions on the Evo so far.
diomark said:
maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
-mark
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I had the same battery problem after updating to 2.2. After 3 hours my battery was at 50%. Normally it'd be at 50% after 9 to 10 hours of usage.
I did find that some settings had been reset. Once I turned off all the crap syncing, gtalk logging in, Sprint Zone, etc my battery usage has seemed to flatten out.
I made it an hour and only dropped 2% which is much more like it. This is all with very little usage going on.
Buy a new battery! Best solution!
No joda!
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very funny just pluged my phone in using flipz newest after 19 hours
make sure you are signed out of googletalk !!
I can use *#*#4636#*#* and I read somewhere that it can help with battery life if I set a certain antenna from there? I forgot where I read it though, if someone can please let me know that would be great. There are NO rogue apps running, I only have about 10 installed.
The phone is 4 days old, so it could be why but I've battery cycled it twice already (letting it run dead and recharging it for 10 hours). All my widgets are off except weather and that is set to update every 3 hours and it is NOT using GPS. Wifi is off, so is bluetooth. Gps is off as well.
Is anyone using maximum power saver or just the regular nighttime setting for those reporting better battery life? I also uninstalled launcher pro, it seemed to glitch my phone a lot with the google toolbar and also seemed to have a slightly bigger toll on my battery. Also battery health is stating "Good". Is that the best or does it still need more conditioning?
You probably shouldn't change things in there. Look elsewhere to conserve battery.
You didn't note what your battery life is like either. But you should still let the battery charge and drain a few more times before trying to squeak out more battery life by modifying something like this....
bongd said:
You probably shouldn't change things in there. Look elsewhere to conserve battery.
You didn't note what your battery life is like either. But you should still let the battery charge and drain a few more times before trying to squeak out more battery life by modifying something like this....
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Well I'll give you an example. The phone was unplugged almost 6 hours yesterday, and I used it around 3 hours and 46 minutes max. It got down to 5 percent and shut off. I had my music i was listening to for 25 minutes. I had my IM program on for about an hour, had a 12 minute phone call. Was texting back and forth mainly, and I checked a few things on the browser and exited out. MY IM program uses GPS to get my location but only when I request to do so, then shut the gps off. I force closed it when I was done to be sure it wasn't gonna drain any more of my battery. My notifications are off mainly except for my texts and such. And this was with JuiceDefender on the last half of the battery.
I don't like programs like Juice Defender to be honest. They usually go buggy and drain the battery more than it saves. People just get excited and leave positive reviews.
I'd honestly reset to factory settings in case there was a one-off glitch. Set things up again and use it like you would normally to gauges things. My battery lasted over 40 hours from the first charge.
With results that bad, I wouldn't troubleshoot beyond resetting it. Take it back if that's the case. That's not right. And it's not worth your time.
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I don't like programs like Juice Defender to be honest. They usually go buggy and drain the battery more than it saves. People just get excited and leave positive reviews.
I'd honestly reset to factory settings in case there was a one-off glitch. Set things up again and use it like you would normally to gauges things. My battery lasted over 40 hours from the first charge.
With results that bad, I wouldn't troubleshoot beyond resetting it. Take it back if that's the case. That's not right. And it's not worth your time.
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Thanks. I just got the phone not sure why I would need to factory reset it. Is there a way I can back my data up and such like texts and pics/apps?
Also 40 hours!? Jeeze do you like never use your phone at all? haha. That is insane my iPhone 4 never even got that good of battery life.
tripleh3lix said:
I can use *#*#4636#*#* and I read somewhere that it can help with battery life if I set a certain antenna from there? I forgot where I read it though, if someone can please let me know that would be great.
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That code just pushes your phone to use EDGE only and not 3G. It can increase battery life if your phone is constantly trying to hold on to a spotty 3G signal, which can be common .
gnahc79 said:
That code just pushes your phone to use EDGE only and not 3G. It can increase battery life if your phone is constantly trying to hold on to a spotty 3G signal, which can be common .
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Ah, no I have about 4 bars of HSPA+ in my house, I think i'm good on that, thank you!
Did you do the OTA update? seems to have helped a few people with battery life including myself.
Kaoe said:
Did you do the OTA update? seems to have helped a few people with battery life including myself.
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Yep it's updated I'm wondering if it was the chat program yesterday I was using.. It has notifications on so it was probably connecting 24/7. I'm gonna keep it off today and use regular apps like facebook. Do you guys keep your notifications for those with good battery life?
Kaoe said:
Did you do the OTA update? seems to have helped a few people with battery life including myself.
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(off topic) is that your atrix? and how did you get your lockscreen to look like that?
Banditlol said:
(off topic) is that your atrix? and how did you get your lockscreen to look like that?
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It's an application called WidgetLocker. It's quite an amazing application if I do say so myself.
tripleh3lix said:
Yep it's updated I'm wondering if it was the chat program yesterday I was using.. It has notifications on so it was probably connecting 24/7. I'm gonna keep it off today and use regular apps like facebook. Do you guys keep your notifications for those with good battery life?
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Chat programs are generally notorious battery hogs. Stick with Google Talk.
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Chat programs are generally notorious battery hogs. Stick with Google Talk.
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I've been using PingChat for about a month now and there is no significant battery drain. Very nice and reliable, more than google talk where messages sent would occasionally never be received.
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I've been using PingChat for about a month now and there is no significant battery drain. Very nice and reliable, more than google talk where messages sent would occasionally never be received.
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Generally. I allow that there are some that are not battery hogs. I do know the chat program on my Touch Pro (I forget what it was) would suck my battery dry in an hour or two if left running in the background.
Hey Guys,
Not sure if anyone has ever posted this but I thought I would share how I am able to get 2 days plus on single charge...
I only recomend this if you are not totally dependent on your email, facebook, gtalk, etc to sync.
I have my email accounts on my phone but I don't need to receive them instantly meaning they are not dire important so this works for me.
Android's biggest battery killer, which most of you probably know, is data syncing in background and just data connection in general. What I personally do is keep 3G data off at all times by going to settings->wireless and networks->mobile networks->3G Data and uncheck it.
Obviously with this off, you wont be able to connect to web, get emails, download apps, etc... But if you live in a 4G area like me, all I do every once in awhile is flip on 4G from dropdown let it sync or do what I got to do then flip 4G back off so there is no connection anymore... This will save so much of your battery but it is up to you to check things when you need to....
I hope this helps some people because it helps me a lot... I always recommend this to customers that come in my store if they are not depending on work email and such...
Let me know if you have any questions!
You can hold down the power button and click Data mode to toggle 3g
I have done those things since I've had this phone in august and everytime I talk about getting great battery life the haters come out and say well you didn't have sync on blah blah. Freaking retards. Especially if you are sleeping why not turn off sync for the email that is not going to come anyways. I haven't seen the battery life yet as I did since eclair though.
LunaticWolf said:
You can hold down the power button and click Data mode to toggle 3g
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Ya that is the quickest way...
jbadboy2007 said:
I have done those things since I've had this phone in august and everytime I talk about getting great battery life the haters come out and say well you didn't have sync on blah blah. Freaking retards. Especially if you are sleeping why not turn off sync for the email that is not going to come anyways. I haven't seen the battery life yet as I did since eclair though.
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I know they can say all they want but it works I keep getting 2 or 3 days
You can get juice defender to do this automatically as well. You can also have it only activate data when the screen is on or for certain apps. Just sayin
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Trickee360 said:
You can get juice defender to do this automatically as well. You can also have it only activate data when the screen is on or for certain apps. Just sayin
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Personally, I think juice defender is crap and battery life doesn't save as much as doing it yourself... Im just saying...
Actually my biggest killer is display. Our devices our the only ones with 90%+ battery usage for display, yet they advertised that it required 20% less battery!
Whosdaman said:
Actually my biggest killer is display. Our devices our the only ones with 90%+ battery usage for display, yet they advertised that it required 20% less battery!
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I know! The display is a killer but even so doing this with full brightness and I can still push a day and a half... I usually keep my brightness all the way down though and manage to push upto 3 days...
interesting thread i am going to try some of these suggestions
I get 56 hours using Ultimate Juicedefender.
Wow...i use to get great battery life. I'm using lowest brightness setting, sfr, and ultimate juice defender and getting only like 16 to 24 hours of life.
What else are you guys doing? I use to get 50 hours but not anymore..
I thought I knew all the tricks in the book. But I use my phone constantly. Above average I would say.
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I am not sure, I keep lowest brightness and keep data off almost all day except for occasional checking but maybe 10 minutes total of data being on... I have noticed with EC05 battery life lowered even on complete stock... Most people in my store hve epics and all have suffered worse battery since the update... It didnt matter if it was OTA or OTW...
Maybe try and get a new battery...
I think the reasons the 'haters' come out is simply because you're stating your getting better battery life and then revealing you're castrating your phone. It is a smartphone after all. It's supposed to do all those things you turn off. This isn't a phone which is only supposed to make calls. I mean, if I wanted to check my email once a day, I'd simply do it while I'm in front of a computer.
I don't believe I'm one of said-haters but possibly providing a bit of information on where they're coming from as well.
I think it's well documented that Android phones pretty much suck in terms of battery life, especially when compared to Blackberry. Man, RIM got it right on that aspect.
hayzooos said:
I think the reasons the 'haters' come out is simply because you're stating your getting better battery life and then revealing you're castrating your phone. It is a smartphone after all. It's supposed to do all those things you turn off. This isn't a phone which is only supposed to make calls. I mean, if I wanted to check my email once a day, I'd simply do it while I'm in front of a computer.
I don't believe I'm one of said-haters but possibly providing a bit of information on where they're coming from as well.
I think it's well documented that Android phones pretty much suck in terms of battery life, especially when compared to Blackberry. Man, RIM got it right on that aspect.
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How is that castrating your phone? I can still do everything else on the phone... You don't need a constant data connection to use it like a PDA. Do all tabs have a constant data connection? No, so are they not going to be considered PDA because they lack internet sometimes? no
I am sorry to say but if your managing your phone and doing things to better, that is not castrating, that is good device management and what should be done so it runs how you want...
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How is that castrating your phone? I can still do everything else on the phone... You don't need a constant data connection to use it like a PDA. Do all tabs have a constant data connection? No, so are they not going to be considered PDA because they lack internet sometimes? no
I am sorry to say but if your managing your phone and doing things to better, that is not castrating, that is good device management and what should be done so it runs how you want...
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Well, it sorts of like taking a porsche and not pushing it past 2nd gear. Some people are happy with it, some are not. On one hand, battery saving posts can be thought as misleading, if the premise is that you dont compromise any functionality. I prefer to charge my phone everyday and not worry about battery, but when your battery is dying when you need it in the evening, than one is of a different opinion entirely.
One thing which I realized to late, is if you are at work in the office or somewhere with wifi, you can toggle 3G off and not lose any functionality, since wifi uses a lot less juice.
I have tried I new battery, I have three that I alternate between. I have no idea what has happened to my phone. It could be the phone itself
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Well, it sorts of like taking a porsche and not pushing it past 2nd gear. Some people are happy with it, some are not. On one hand, battery saving posts can be thought as misleading, if the premise is that you dont compromise any functionality. I prefer to charge my phone everyday and not worry about battery, but when your battery is dying when you need it in the evening, than one is of a different opinion entirely.
One thing which I realized to late, is if you are at work in the office or somewhere with wifi, you can toggle 3G off and not lose any functionality, since wifi uses a lot less juice.
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And I did say from the beginning what it does and what you loose from it... The only reason it was posted was to try and help people who may be newer to android and needing to squish extra minutes out of their phone for the day... Or they may find themselves not near a charger and almost dead and need their phone so turn off data to preserve the battery... I mean it doesn't "cripple" your phone to turn off data... I can still play angry birds, check my calendar, call people, text, etc. You don't need your phone to have data to use its features...
Whosdaman said:
I have tried I new battery, I have three that I alternate between. I have no idea what has happened to my phone. It could be the phone itself
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Have you tried reflashing stock ECO5 and starting from scratch? The only time I started noticing a big difference and I reflashed to stock and customed it again it fixed it...
But you're right, the phone could be giving out...
I have...I've tried everything. Idk what else to do
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