Hi,
Just looking for some advice on a problem with my HD2. Am having significant problems with the bluetooth, which I suspect may be caused by a fault in the phone.
Bluetooth works, but the speed of file transfers is incredibly slow. Have performed different tests, using different PC's, and different ROM's with essentially the same results.
Bluetooth file transfer speed varies, depending on the device it is connected, between 7-60 KB/s, and fluctuating wildly. The same test using a Nokia phone and same PC's yielded file transfer speeds between 90-110 KB/s. This slow performance seems to degrade the clarity of sound when using a bluetooth headset (Nokia BT-214).
I have used the latest standard HTC ROM, and the latest of Dutty's ROM's, and both produce essentially the same result. I have read that there are some problems arising out of the Widcomm stack, not working as well as the MS one, but have seen no posts indicating anyone having as significant problems as I am having.
Advice please.
I just tried and with some little tweaks from "HD2 tweaks 1.3" program, I have a sustained 110 to 120 KB/s. You can try that
Thanks for the reply, and help attempt. I tried this, and unfortunately it did not make any improvement, still very slow.
I get 90-120kB/s too, without any particular tweak.
What would be interesting to know is whether you have a particularly active WLAN in the area, wireless security cams or such around you...
As an example, if I start a BT transfer ftom the PC to the phone via BT, and then start transferring a big file from my laptop to my PC via WLAN, transfer speeds on BT will fall to 40kB/s or so.
Thanks for your thoughts on this. Just tried a file transfer with WiFi both enabled and disabled, produced exactly the same in terms of file transfer speed: 50 KB/s.
This is incredibly frustrating. I have sent a message to HTC asking them if they think it a phone fault or not, and am awaiting a reply.
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From another thread... i've just been told xdaII doesn't have Wi-fi as i first presumed.
Can someone suggest the best way to access the net through my home adsl router? Would bluetooth be my best bet?
Can you recommend specifically which equipment will work... since there are so many issues at the moment as to what works and what doesn't.
Thanks!!
Fais
put i-mate in usb cradle, hook up cradle to PC. i-mate uses PC's network connection.
Outside of that you'll either be springing for a usb/bt dongle (which I haven't seen any posts of anyone using) or a WiFi SD card. Can't think of any other options off the top of my head.
As you have mentioned earlier, you have already wired up your whole home with wif-, and presumably have a wi-fi access point.
The best route would thereofre be to add a wi-fi card to your xda2, such as the Socket Wireless LAN (WiFi) SD Card. This will give you better speeds than bluetooth, and you will not have to worry about profiles etc.
Just my 2c
Surur
I use a Belkin USB bluetooth dongle, and using the ActiveSync passthrough you can then browse the web on the XDA within the range of the dongle. You can get dongles with a 100m range, which should be plenty within a house.
Only trouble is, being ActiveSync, it it pot luck whether you can establish a link or not. Once you've established the link, it works quite well, though not flawlessly. It's also quite slow. Not as slow as GPRS, but not exactly snappy either. I don't know whether this is down to PIE, the bluetooth, or the ActiveSync. Most likely the latter.
Ideally, you'd use a bluetooth access point, but I'm not sure the XDA will work with that due to the absence of an appropriate protocol.
Thanks for the replies... I know what you mean onepieceman... activesync if driving me crazing
Wi-fi seems my best bet since usb seems to be incredibly slow at downlaoding a page.... thanks for the recommendations surur and graah.
don use WiFi at home! use BT
I've got both BT dongle and WiFi sdio setup at home.
The BT is actually to a notebook which is WiFi'd to my ADSL to inet...
The WiFi is faster, but:
1. the BT actually gave me better range! (I got the 100m one from Belkin)
2. the WiFi is a pig ( P I G ) on the battery.
3. the WiFi takes up my SD porn-movies slot
if you setup activesync to only do the sync MANUALLY (you have to
tell it both on the PC and on the XDA to sync manually) then
establishing BT pass-thru is much easier/faster
The internet is kinda slow on the XDA, I think probably because
MS's pocket IE is just bad. I don't think the TCP/IP works correctly
or that it opens enough connections in parallel to get the GIF's
and stuff. The network/BT/WiFi and the hardware (128Mb/400Mhz)
is much faster than what IE/Microsoft gives us.
But what do you expect from the 640Kb is enough company, that
did it again with 32 ****ing processes?!
There is also the option of XDA CF jacket
Re: don use WiFi at home! use BT
mgolanlan said:
The internet is kinda slow on the XDA, I think probably because
MS's pocket IE is just bad. I don't think the TCP/IP works correctly
or that it opens enough connections in parallel to get the GIF's
and stuff. The network/BT/WiFi and the hardware (128Mb/400Mhz)
is much faster than what IE/Microsoft gives us.
But what do you expect from the 640Kb is enough company, that
did it again with 32 ****ing processes?!
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thanks mgolanlan... does this mean the net speed is going to be on par with the usb speed? - usb was incredibly slow ... if so i may as well not bother with net access all together
usb1.1 is 12Mb /sec
if your ADSL is faster then that you are pretty lucky
Hi
Using T-Mobile (UK) on the Stirling/Bannockburn transmitter...
Just changed to a Hermes from a Universal because I bought a umpc and no longer needed somet the size of the universal.
On the universal, I was seeing downloads of around 300Kbit/sec and uploads of about 100Kbit
On the Hermes with HSDPA enabled (I assume) I get downloads of between 700 and 1000Kbit/sec with uploads at 300Kbit/sec
Both the above measured with http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed/jisok=1
Pleased --> Yes indeed I am - a worthwhile speed increase
But
When I connect to the hermes via bluetooth from a laptop (using hermes as a modem), I am only seeing 300Kbit (both upstream and downstream). Both devices have bluetooth 2.0 (EDR).
On the universal I used to see the same speeds over bluetooth as on the device its-self (although I realise that my laptop speeds with the hermes exceed my universal speeds!)
Does HSDPA only work when the connection comes from the device its-self (rather than via bluetooth)??
Is there some kind of issue with bluetooth that slows things down? would USB prove to be faster?
The laptop has the option of fitting an HSDPA module, but I never went for this because it would also have meant paying for two contracts!
On the whole, I like the form factor of the hermes and dont really miss the keyboard/screen of the universal esp now I have a umpc.
Only critisism of the hermes would be that its not exactly production quality. Compared to my universal its very buggy. Guess thats just the products immaturity - its certaining no more buggy than my universal was on day 1.
Maybe HTC will eventually replace the universal - I got fed up with waiting and my old contract ended. The chap in the t-mobile shop showed me pics of t-mobiles forthcoming take on the HTC athena (think thats what its called - the one with the detatchable keyboard... but that's hardly a replacement for the universal.
Anyone had any experiences with using hermes on t-mobile (UK) over bluetooth as a modem from a laptop, please reply!
Nigel
veletron said:
When I connect to the hermes via bluetooth from a laptop (using hermes as a modem), I am only seeing 300Kbit (both upstream and downstream). Both devices have bluetooth 2.0 (EDR).
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i cant get over 350k using bluetooth to desktop either.
Tytn has bluetooth 2.0,but NO EDR, maybe that is y.
when i use USB to desktop, i can get around 550k.
Hi
Looking at the modems for both USB and Bluetooth, the baud rate appears to be 115,200. In ControlPanel-->Modems.
This is the baud-rate limit for the hardware
If you get up the properties for your dialup account, and look at the modem properties from there, then you can select ~900Kbit. Unfortunately this does not alter the hardware port restrictions.
Of course, the speeds we are seeing are better than is poss over 115,200 anyway...
I find the USB modem thing very hit and miss - it only works properly where there are no other modems present otherwise, if the dial-up account cannot find the usb com port it just changes it to something else.
Other problems I have with the hermes are that sometimes it refuses to connect from the laptop at all (requiring a soft reset). Hopefully a new rom will fix this - this problem did not exist on my trusty universal.
Nigel
Hi
when syncing its fine
but when it comes to copying stuff over to the microdrive or
minisd card it times out vista come up with error saying device has turned off
anyone else had this prob ?
is there a timing setting i dont know about ?
cheers
Are they large files by any chance? If so, there seems to be a 'feature' of craptivsync and the Ameo where it won't copy large files (+20mb in my tests) without crapping out. The fix is to install wm5torage which makes the device act like a USB drive (overriding activesync). This works without issue and is about 1000x quicker than copying files via activesync. I'm using it even for small files as it seems to work at USB2 speeds rather than Serial Speeds! Do a search on here for Wm5torage and you'll be away.
Digital.Diablo said:
Are they large files by any chance? If so, there seems to be a 'feature' of craptivsync and the Ameo where it won't copy large files (+20mb in my tests) without crapping out. The fix is to install wm5torage which makes the device act like a USB drive (overriding activesync). This works without issue and is about 1000x quicker than copying files via activesync. I'm using it even for small files as it seems to work at USB2 speeds rather than Serial Speeds! Do a search on here for Wm5torage and you'll be away.
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I think all T-mobile user experience this problem, yes, the only solution now for you guys is to use the wm5torage. Luckily the DOPOD U1000 don't have this problem, and also an interesting point is my DOPOD U1000 transfer file equally fast as wm5torage via activesync, and no problem with large file as well. (over 2Gb)
I've not had any problems with my Ameo - copying 350 - 400 meg AVI files to the microdrive (using just regular ActiveSync only) works fine.
Well, I say fine - the progress bar goes a little bonkers. If it is to be believed, then the transfer restarts about half a dozen times, gets about 1/5th of the way through, then completes instantly.
But the files always end up on the Ameo fine.
Hi,
interesting to know it does it on some and not on others
i tried that program and it works fine
thanks for replys
I have only this problem when I transfer large files and I use my Ameo. When you leave your Ameo alone during the transfer their wil be no problem. I noticed this problem for the first time when a lot of programs were running.
Hello,
I hope you all are fine. I am experiencing a strange thing in my PC-Wizard bluetooth file transfer.
First of all I would like to know which version of bluetooth do we have in Wizard? Some websites say it is 1.1, others say its 2.0. Anyway, the scene is, that when I send file from Wizard to PC, it is transfered at (at the most) 15 Kb/sec. That's it. I have never seen it accede this limit (I saw this speed by transferring a file with Resco Explorer, it shows the rate of transfer). Now, when I transfer a file using the usual way (rt-click -> send to -> bluetooth -> Pocket_PC) it too transfers at almost the same speed.
But when I transfer a file via ActiveSync (connected via bluetooth) it does it real fast. A hundred KB file takes 1 second. And the speed is the same even if I copy from PC to PPC or vice versa.
If Wizard has bluetooth 1.1, this shouldn't be possible? If it has Bluetooth 2.0, yet it should send files faster when transfered the normal way too.
What transfer speeds do you guys experience. Also please tell me if you find any difference between the transfer rate if the file is transfered via ActiveSync or if its transfered otherwise.
Thanks.
Is this device able to connect as a modem to a laptop like some other devices? I have the Advantage 7501. If it is possible, how is it acheived? Is there a hack or hardware adapter required?
Start/Program/Internet Sharing.
Choose whether you want to link Athena with your PC with bluetooth or USB cable. Then click connect.
Done!
A better option is wmWifiRouter. It has the benefit of wireless like bluetooth so you can leave the Athena in your laptop bag, but you can use WPA security unlike bluetooth (make sure your password is longer than 10 characters and is fairly random). It also allows you to share your connection with multiple computers at once, unlike bluetooth. New versions have been coming out every month or two, I just noticed a new one was released 10 days ago...
http://www.jongma.org/WMWifiRouter/
eaglesteve said:
Start/Program/Internet Sharing.
Choose whether you want to link Athena with your PC with bluetooth or USB cable. Then click connect.
Done!
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Thanks. I'll try this.
techntrek said:
A better option is wmWifiRouter. It has the benefit of wireless like bluetooth so you can leave the Athena in your laptop bag, but you can use WPA security unlike bluetooth (make sure your password is longer than 10 characters and is fairly random). It also allows you to share your connection with multiple computers at once, unlike bluetooth. New versions have been coming out every month or two, I just noticed a new one was released 10 days ago...
http://www.jongma.org/WMWifiRouter/
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Thanks. I'll look into this too.
techntrek said:
A better option is wmWifiRouter. It has the benefit of wireless like bluetooth so you can leave the Athena in your laptop bag, but you can use WPA security unlike bluetooth (make sure your password is longer than 10 characters and is fairly random). It also allows you to share your connection with multiple computers at once, unlike bluetooth. New versions have been coming out every month or two, I just noticed a new one was released 10 days ago...
http://www.jongma.org/WMWifiRouter/
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Yes, indeed it is better from security viewpoint as well as the fact that more than one can be connected.
I'm using version 0.91 and it works perfectly.
Make sure your WIFI is turned on before installation. It works like a charm!
eaglesteve said:
Yes, indeed it is better from security viewpoint as well as the fact that more than one can be connected.
I'm using version 0.91 and it works perfectly.
Make sure your WIFI is turned on before installation. It works like a charm!
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Be aware that overuse of this application makes your battery VERY hot. It seems to make the device work overtime, and I experienced a noticeable decrease in the battery life of my Hermes after using this for a few weeks every day. So much that I had to buy a new battery! It made my Athena very hot too but I started SIM swapping eventually as I'm not so precious about my Hermes.
It is a cool application, might be sensible not to overuse it though.
leoni1980 said:
Be aware that overuse of this application makes your battery VERY hot. It seems to make the device work overtime, and I experienced a noticeable decrease in the battery life of my Hermes after using this for a few weeks every day. So much that I had to buy a new battery! It made my Athena very hot too but I started SIM swapping eventually as I'm not so precious about my Hermes.
It is a cool application, might be sensible not to overuse it though.
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Thanks for the warning. I haven't noticed the overheating yet, but would certainly be aware.
I turned off my Athena after connecting. Wonder if this would have made any difference.
It would only get warm cos it's using lots of power ! any software that uses lots of power will make it run warm, even a lengthy phone call.
I had wmWifiRouter running for about 30 minutes straight over the weekend, while I browsed the net on my desktop (connected to the Athena via wifi). I ran it for 15 minutes with the screen on, and then 15 more minutes with the screen off and in neither case did anything on the Athena feel warm, or hot.
I've been running wifi router on my tytn and connecting with my advantage. The TyTn has always gotten warm when using wifi but the advantage shows no signs of heat using wifi. Running wifi or wifi router on my TyTn really uses lots of battery. An internet sharing over bt or bt dun would be a better solution when it comes to battery life.
Internet sharing over usb uses a lot less battery than Bluetooth or wifrouter and is also much faster than bluetooth.
eagle 1 said:
Internet sharing over usb uses a lot less battery than Bluetooth or wifrouter and is also much faster than bluetooth.
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I thought that was the case but was'nt sure if that was just my own feeling. Glad that someone else confirm my suspicion. However, the usb wire could be a hassle depending on the situation. In 99.99% of the cases, we are probably the only person who needs to connect to it, so internet sharing is not a disadvantage. Security is the only issue left, but is this different from using the BT headset?
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Internet sharing over usb uses a lot less battery than Bluetooth or wifrouter and is also much faster than bluetooth.
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Plus if you use internet sharing over USB, then it charges the athena battery while surfing the net at over twice or three times as fast as Bluetooth.
Don't believe me, try internet sharing and run one of the mobile speed tests, connect via bluetooth, check speed, and then try wifirouter. What are your results...Bluetooth is so much slower compared to the other two choices....
wmWifiRouter on the Ameo?
Has anyone installed and used "wmWifiRouter" (http://www.jongma.org/WMWifiRouter/ - down at the time of writing) on their UK T-Mobile Ameo?
i.e. Does it work for a Windows Mobile 5 device?