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New Refurb from ATT. Unlocked and you pick OS.
golly wow me! another BIG contributor divesting himself of his 8525! wonder whats going on..
is the kaiser out? been out of circulation for awhile..
The auction end tomarrow. 1045ish AM EST.
I'll bet wpbear got an iPhone
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Funny, but while waiting for the Kaiser I have grown to like a device that I thought I would never like.....The BlackJack.
Other than wifi, the BlackJack is actaully more stable than the Hermes. Also if WM6 with internet sharing ever comes out from ATT (It has been delayed AGAIN) for the BlackJack there may be more reasons to stay with the BlackJack. But when I get bored I want something to play with so once the developing gets going I will get a Kaiser for fun.
Also....keep bidding all proceeds go to the savings account for future Kiaser fun
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I'm definitely tossing my Unlocked 8525 on Ebay or offer it to a friend once the Tilt comes out. Hopefully it lives up to the hype and ATT doesn't kill everything good about it to me GPS.
Dylan255 said:
I'm definitely tossing my Unlocked 8525 on Ebay or offer it to a friend once the Tilt comes out. Hopefully it lives up to the hype and ATT doesn't kill everything good about it to me GPS.
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I wouldnt wait too long if you want a decent price for it. I sold my original one in mid August and got $365 easy and definitly couldve gotten more but I priced it low since the device was a year old. Now I am having a hard time getting $300. On Att website refurb with 2 year contract and SIM locked they are $200. So I would say the market is not as good now for the seller and will get worse at the Kaiser goes mainstream.
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Funny, but while waiting for the Kaiser I have grown to like a device that I thought I would never like.....The BlackJack.
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I have a Blackjack but I use my 8525 instead. The only real problem I have with the Blackjack is the lack of screen real estate.
I haven't found it to be all that stable compared to the 8525. However I have only recently started using these forums. Are there any better ROMs for the Blackjack that I should look at? Seems the AT&T standadr install on the BlackJack is pretty plain, nothing special. Suggestions?
Again, it still is lacking in screen. I wish they would have thought that one out. It's a nifty little device but doesn't compare to my 8525 as far as I have seen.
I have tried unsuccessfully to purchase a Wing twice now. Last night I made a bid on a third one, however so much time has passed since I have been trying to get one that I am now out of time. I lost my phone last week and need a new one by Wednesday. In order to get my phone I will have to overnight it for early arrival on Wednesday. The total cost now puts me close to 400 which is the neighborhood of an iphone. When the iphone first came out I swore it was the phone for me but I wasn’t going to spend 600 for it. They have dropped in price to 399 for the 8 gig phone. I am going to have to unlock the phone though for T-mobile service which scares me a bit. I kept pretty close tabs on the whole unlock the iphone saga when it was first being done and it seemed that there was a pretty high failure rate at that time. A quick check on eBay reveals that there are a plethora of unlocked iphones for sale which tells me that they have perfected the process. So now I am at a cross roads. I can get the iphone tomorrow from an Apple store or AT&T’s stores. The Wing will have to be sent overnight if I can convince the seller to drop everything and run down to a FedEx office. So given the pros and cons of the purchase I see a pretty close match. Maybe I should be looking at the phones themselves. The processor on the iphone is way more powerful and so is the storage space. The thing I don’t like about the iphone is that it’s a mac which means I may have issues getting software for it on the open market. Then again it’s a seriously popular device and people may be writing all sorts of tools and software for it. It doesn’t have a dedicated keyboard either which I liked about the wing. So given the choice, should I seriously stick with the Wing or should I make the switch to the iphone? Opinions count but I would like to hear some concrete facts about the differences if I am to make a logical decision. Thanks in advance.
Have you considered you can walk into a Tmobile Store and get a wing for $349?
You talk about walking into an Apple Store vs. having a Wing shipped to you.... and that seems to be the deciding factor on which phone you're going to get. If you walk into a Tmobile store, you can get a Wing for $350 plus tax .... and if you walk into an Apple store, you can get an iPhone for $399 plus tax.
actually I cant get the wing for 349. It's a real pisser and if that was true I would have done that a week ago. I lost my phone (V3 Razor) about a week ago. The first thought that came to mind was go to T-mobile and get a new phone. My second thought was to upgrade into something like the Wing. I didn't know it existed at the time, but I thought that it would be a nice iPhone substitute at 350 since I believed the iphone to be 600. As it turns out I am 10 months away from my contract ending with T-mobile. I am 8 months away from qualifying for any T-mobile phone rebates. The Wing is 499 retail with 100 instant rebate and 50 mail in all of which require 2 additional years of contract. T-mobile will not allow me to extend my contract until I am 2 months or less from my current contract expiration. So to that end and to your point, the phone is not 350 to me it is 499 to me. That is why I started my search on eBay. I thought then as I think now, I can get a better deal on the Wing through eBay. However, I had the damnedest luck on this particular auction. I bid and won my first auction about 5 days ago and have not heard 1 word from the seller regarding the close of the auction. I believe he died and luckily I hadn't sent him any money. Maybe someday I will hear from the guy but at this point he wont respond to any emails nor has he complained about me not paying for the auction. I decided to try again and won a second auction for 255 on the wing. Great deal I thought until I actually paid for the auction only to find out that he already sold the phone to another party as well as collecting payment from me too. Now I have to deal with that big pile of crap but I still need a phone. So here I am needing to win yet another auction for my wing or I can just go to an At&t store and pick up the iphone.
Tough decision to make, one that i considered also. A couple of things to note first is:
Longevity: Remember iphone 2.0 is already in the works and might drop by the end of next year. Also remember T-Mobile's 3g service should start seeing implementation beginning next year. So now the question is, how long are you planning on keeping this phone? Another thing to consider is resale value if you opt to get another phone next year. I would assume an iphone in great condition should have a higher resale value over time than the wing.
Specs: iPhone is more powerful than Wing and also has more storage, has a multitouch display that is larger and with higher resolution.
UI and OS: iPhone beats Wing hands down for STOCK UI and OS, athough it is an unfair advantage. Apple made OSX on the iPhone from the ground up. It only has one platform to work with whereas WM6 is created to be cross-platform and work for different SP, PPC, and PDA that all have different specs and components. Although the dev comm definitely did an outstanding job of making wm6 more user friendly, and with upgrades to wm6 like Shadows's UI and Android around the corner, we'll see how this develops.
Dev. Community: Apple is releasing a SDK for iPhone early next year, so you should start seeing software for iPhone given enough time. Wing has an established dev comm as you can see - xda (The best!), modaco, howardforums, and others.
Apple vs. Microsoft: Which is the lesser of two evils?
Warranty: unlock your iPhone and you just voided your warranty. At least with wing something happens to it, you should be able to have T-Mobile help you in some way. At least, i would think.
Personally, i'm happy with my Wing. It might be no iPhone, but then again no other is. It's the little device that could, and while there are more powerful phones on the market, it still holds it own. Plus i like the idea that i can abuse it more than the iPhone. I feel HTC makes quality phones and i can't wait to see if T-Mobile releases HTC Touch Cruise for its 3g service (please, please, please). Plus, it's not a F'ing Sidekick! lol.
Unless you are in dire need of a pda phone right now, i would buy a cheap phone for the time and wait until the next round of pda phones come out. Take a look at the ATT tilt, for instance, much more powerful than the wing and im sure we'll see a price drop pretty quick.
Have you considered this?
http://www.fatwallet.org/forums/messageview.php?catid=18&threadid=733578
This is where I bought my wing, when the price was $49 after rebate, now it's $79 with free bluetooth headphone. You do need to sign-up another one year contract (no activation fee, free 2-day shipping) with Tmobile though, but you can combine your twon lines to a family plan and save some $$.
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unless you are within 2 months of your current contract expiring, you can not renew your contract with tmobile. Your account must be 60 days to contract expiration before you can get any rebates or discounts applied to your phone. I have mentioned that twice so far. It's a very important tip to pass on and to keep in mind with your own upgrade decisions in the future. If I qualified for any sort of assistance I would have bought the wing long ago.
FYI..I ended up with 3 failed auctions for the wing. Very strange situatation to say the least. In the end I went with the iphone but I am starting to wonder if that was a wise choice considering all the trouble I have had with it over the last week. I attempted for 48 hours straight to hack the iphone for use on t-mobile service. Apple has released an update sometime last month that pretty much locks the phone down for the next couple of weeks or months. Someone will surely figure out a way around it but for now its damn near impossible. I decided to sign up with att service and only after a week of fooling with this phone did I finally get it working today. About 6 hours after finally getting the phone up and running did I discover that it doesnt have VOIP support. Now at first glance that might seem like a meaningless attribute but this was the primary reason for me starting this little adventure of phone upgrading. I am going to start a new thread because I have more to tell and need help in making a choice.
if you use your phone almost like laptop then you won't like the iPhone. You will for for a little while till the wow factor wares off. It's definately pretty and very nice with all its tricks but the simple things it cant do. Some 3rd party apps attempt to fix this but it doesnt work all too well.
You'll take things for granted such as browsing to a site to download something and email it as an attatchment to someone or yourself.
Being owners when the phone just came out, many have found their New Every 2 to be approaching or already here. When the time comes for the new phone, what device are you leaning toward? Are you staying within the WM arena and going with a Diamond 2 or Touch 2; Webos and Palm Pre; Android and the Hero; or off to the iphone?
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Being owners when the phone just came out, many have found their New Every 2 to be approaching or already here. When the time comes for the new phone, what device are you leaning toward? Are you staying within the WM arena and going with a Diamond 2 or Touch 2; Webos and Palm Pre; Android and the Hero; or off to the iphone?
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Stick with WinMo and just upgrade to a TP2 or similar device (key is a bigger screen, at least 3.5" in the diagonal.)
Iphone or any phone on a non-WinMo operating system is a non-issue. Won't want to do without the Skyfire browser, for starters. The app WMWifiRouter is also important to me (turn phone into a wireless router accessible to multiple devices simultaneously.)
Iphone is too expensive to operate at this point - can't get an Iphone onto my $50 "unlimited everything" prepaid from Boost (Sprint CDMA) with unlimited 3G EVDO data. The same functionality I currently get out of my Titan for $50 a month would cost me around $200 a month on an Iphone plan.
Well I have been thinking about this lately...
My new every two year discount begins in December.
I could still use my Titan and wait for a Windows Mobile 7 device with a keyboard but not sure if I can wait that long.
I could get a Touch Pro 2 even though I wish there was a HD2 Pro instead.
Looking at the Pre and Droid as options too...
It's such a hard decision and hopfully there will be more leaked info on Windows Mobile 7.
Thought about the TP2. Out of stock on the website, not available locally.
Signed up for the Droid emails. We'll see what it's like when it comes out. I need a mainly business focused device (active sync, calendar, contacts), not sure if the Droid will live up to it.
I'm also on the hunt for a new rom to flash to the Titan.. (been on an old dcd rom for a long time now).
Thanks for the reply george.
I am sorta in the same boat segadc. My NE2 is up with verizon. However the Pre, Droid and Hero sparked my curiousity equally as I think I may want to jump from WinMo. The worry for me is apps. In testing a friends new jailbroken iphone, the realm of apps is limitless. The Pre, drois and Hero all have good points about them but the recent info for Pre release on Vz Network is not until early 2010. I would like to see all three fisrt hand before I decide to stay with Vz or make a jump for the iphone.
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Thought about the TP2. Out of stock on the website, not available locally.
Signed up for the Droid emails. .
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Same here. I would have had a TP2 by now if it was ever in stock. Then I started getting info on the droid and I am intrigued.
The business aspect is somewhat less important to me, so I am leaning android at this point. Though I will miss the htc tweaks...
Yeah I signed up for the Droid emails too. If I knew for sure when the first Windows Mobile 7 (with physical QWERTY) is arriving on Verizon, I would definetly stick with Windows Mobile...
Is the TP2 bigger then the Titan? I need to see some size comparisons.
The more I look at the Hero, the more I am a fan I think. I think the days of WinMo may have come to an end. With my NE2 up now and my contract up in Feb...stay with Vz or go to At&T with the iphone. Like I said, I am an app man but the Hero looks rather sweet.
dont buy an iphone
I was in the exact same situation as you. Out of contract and new every 2 available. Plus, VZ took an additional $100.00 off of the cost of any comperable device. I wanted the TP2 in the worst way, but they are unobtainium (except online for $675.00 ), so I got the Imagio, which I was told is an upgraded version of the TP2 without the keyboard. Not true. The TP2 does quite a few things that the Imagio does not.
Comparing the Titan to the TP2, the TP2 feels great in the hand. It is a little on the heavy side, but I like a device that feels solid. The contoured back is very ergonomic and the cooling holes provide for a nice textured feel that doesn't make me think that I'm about to drop it every seven seconds. I especially like the tilting screen. And once you use a phone with a 3.6 inch screen, you will not want to go back to the 2.8 inch on the Titan. Again, sadly the TP2 is not to be found.
The Hero looks good in specs, but so did the Imagio. If the Leo were to be available on VZ, I would certainly give that one a shot. The bottom line is that I am not happy with the Imagio and will most likely send it back. Then I will be right back in that boat with you.
What exactly does the TP2 do that the imagio doesn't?
yeah... Same here. I am ready to NE2 and I am a VIP member so the TP2 would cost 199.99 less 100 NE2 and less 50 for VIP. End cost $49.99 on line only (stores don't give the online discount of 100 or the vip discount). If I could find one. I called tech support and got to the higest level. I was told they have some in stock to replace defective units but not for sale. They wouldn't give me any idea as to when they would be in stock. Then they told me they would look into it and send me an email or txt msg. three days later I got a txt: and I quote "(Verizon Wireless) HTC Touch Pro2 is out of stock. Will no longer be sold. Thank You for choosing Verizon Wireless"
So I guess I wait or jump ship.
I went to youtube and watched reviews for the imagio and the tp2 to compare. I was thinking to go to the imagio. But after watching both reviews, I decided NOT to get the imagio. If you want to watch them yourself type imagio and look for the review part 1 and part 2. Same with the TP2.... I think I'll go take a look at the droid specs.....
Just call everyday. They get small shipments pretty often.
I don't think I was really into the TP2 as I wanted something difft. I was a fan of the Hero previously until I saw Motorola's Droid. Though I need to see actual video reviews of the phone and test it out before I buy it, the Droid may be the way I go. I guess we will wait and see.
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What exactly does the TP2 do that the imagio doesn't?
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The biggest thing for me is that the Imagio does not support the video out function. Everybody that I have talked to at VZW and HTC say that "It appears as though the Imagio should support video via accessory cable interface." "Looks" and "should" don't get the picture on my PICO.
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"(Verizon Wireless) HTC Touch Pro2 is out of stock. Will no longer be sold. Thank You for choosing Verizon Wireless"
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I've read this rumor all over the place. Currently they are instock online and in some stores. Why would Verizon discontinue an item that is under such a high demand. My NE2 is up in 2 weeks. I almost got a rep to give it to me early. Anyways, I'll be getting the TP2, unless something changes in 2 weeks.
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I've read this rumor all over the place. Currently they are instock online and in some stores. Why would Verizon discontinue an item that is under such a high demand. My NE2 is up in 2 weeks. I almost got a rep to give it to me early. Anyways, I'll be getting the TP2, unless something changes in 2 weeks.
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If you can get the TP2, more power to you. For some reason, VZW says (online and in person) that they are out of stock and will not be getting any more. What part of the country are you in? Another user was able to find one in a San Francisco area store. You say that they are available online. When I go online (signed in or acting as a new customer) it says "NEW!" "out of stock".
Scratch that! I just went on Verizon's web site (I usually check it three of four times a day) and it shows the TP2 in stock!
Hmmm. Well, I think I'll be staying with the 6800 for a bit longer. I've looked at the new stuff, but the problem with the TP2 is that it hasn't got a port for an external antenna and where I work, if you don't have an external antenna, you aren't getting out.
Likewise, I like being able to use my phone as a modem for my laptop. Can't do that on the new Verizon phones, at least as far as I've seen (nor can I seem to get Vista to let me do it on my new laptop, but that's another issue.) The new phones are made for people who work in places where cell coverage is ubiquitous - and that's just not my situation.
For the above reason, obviously the iPhone is out too - though I have a patent loathing for the condescending Apple that precludes such a purchase anyway.
you can use something like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4170499 to tether with most new phones.
I guess the external antenna is a downfall. But you could just buy a cell phone repeater amp and not need to plug something into your phone everyday. and you could walk around eaiser.
That's a thought - though I already had the antenna.
There's another link I can use! Thanks! This site is a goldmine of info!
Have you been like me and had the Dell mobile sales web page open all day checking the Dell Venue Pro page? Any other fun stories on how you spent your day waiting for the DVP?
yep since, 4:30 this morning. Also here and expansys-usa. All say the same thing. Wait lol. I think i am going to just disconnect and Friday read how everyone got theres. Then watch they will be on back order lol. Damned if i do and damned if i dont lol. Damn cell phones
This paid off for one guy on these forums lol
wmpoweruser.com/16-gb-dell-venue-pro-briefly-shows-up-ready-to-order-gets-bought/
Poll needs an "I've had mine since the 8th" option for spoiled people like me
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Poll needs an "I've had mine since the 8th" option for spoiled people like me
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Exactly, spoiled people like you dont count unless you have been feeling our pain today
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god when does this fone come out i need it!!
I swear this phone should be flawless about time it gets into our hands, the wait has been enough
Yea,
I don't think it will be flawless though.
I am going into a T-Mobile store today to look at the G2. Also to find out about a year contract instead of a 2yr contract. I had a year contract that expired a couple of months ago and can't see myself having the same phone for 2yrs.
Online and on the phone they are not offering it, but I heard from a couple of places that they may be offering it in-store.
I am just not sure about the DVP.
I myself have been looking at the webpage daily and sometimes hourly.
Anyways, I am sold on the DVP, I know it is going to be my next phone & I am ready to put down the $200 for the 2-year contract. I played with the HD7 & Windows Phone 7 is definitely a great OS, its smooth, beautiful, and functional (which the previous Windows Mobile wasn't). All Windows Phone 7 can do is just get better & better, hearing about a January update which might add a few nice features, it just makes me want it even more.
Would it be physically possible to take the guts from an HTC Arrive and place them into an HTC Trophy shell? I'm just not sure of the size and form factor similarities.
I'm just looking to have a WP7 device on Sprint that does not have a physical keyboard.
Does anybody know if this 'might' be possible?
I'm pretty sure this wouldn't be worth the money or the work you'd have to put into it. I would hold out just a little while longer. Sprint has already made mention of working on their WP7 lineup, and should be introducing new phones soon.
Yeah, well I am not concerned about the money right now as Sprint has recently said they only plan to revisit Windows Phone again in the Fall and I can't quite wait that long.
I mean I am still using a Palm Pro with WMo 6.1 on it and am TIRED of waiting for a Sprint WP7 device w/o keyboard! This SUCKS the way Sprint is being!!!
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Yeah, well I am not concerned about the money right now as Sprint has recently said they only plan to revisit Windows Phone again in the Fall and I can't quite wait that long.
I mean I am still using a Palm Pro with WMo 6.1 on it and am TIRED of waiting for a Sprint WP7 device w/o keyboard! This SUCKS the way Sprint is being!!!
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To be honest, waiting out for another Windows Phone wouldn't be worth it. I say this because there are 2 HUGE platforms out that have surpassed Microsoft in the Mobile game. I suggest, and take it as just a suggestion, that you explore other options with either iOS or Android. They offer much more, and will probably last longer, since Windows Phone hasn't made as big of an impact, and was late to the game. Also, Android offers much more customization and possibilities.
As for waiting, if you're dead set on getting a Windows Phone, exploring other carriers might be a better option at this point. Otherwise, Sprint may just be holding out for a Badass Windows Phone.
Yeah, I'm holding out for Windows Phone and absolutely do not want an iPhone or Android device. I have plenty of experience with all 3 platforms and highly prefer what Windows Phone has now and is building toward with Windows Phone 8 (Apollo).
I just simply want to know if swapping the parts out of the HTC Arrive would fit into another HTC WP7 phone w/o keyboard from any carrier that I can purchase with water damage or something for parts. Thanks for all of your help!
Stuck with a Cracked HTC Arrive instead of my Nokia Lumia 800 :/
When I won the Nokia Lumia 800 I was ecstatic until I realized it takes a sim and Sprint doesn't use sim cards.
The box says something about the CDMA frequencies it handles. Maybe that means it's dual band? not sure.
Does anyone know how to make this work? I would be very grateful!!
On another note, I read an article on Engadget.com that Nokia showed a CDMA version of the Nokia Lumia 800. I think this means we could potentially buy an unlocked version of those, and put it on the sprint network + get a sick phone!
NOTE: the site won't let me post a link but go type engadget.com and then paste in "/2012/02/13/lumia-800-cdma-china/" and hit enter beat the system!