Hi guys,
I've been using the forum for a year or so now and it's great!
I'm now the proud owner of an HD2 from O2 UK and I've already updated the ROM to version 1.72.206.3, which I believe is the latest, but what are the differences between this O2 ROM and the unbranded ROM?
I've done a search and can't seem to find anything to answer this question.
Hope somebody can help.
thanks
The unbranded ROM?
Which ROM? Do you mean the original o2 1.43 ROM? Not much difference that you would recognise. The volume slider in WMP renders correctly in 1.72 whereas in 1.43 it looked like a poo stain in a pair of underpants. Apart from that forget it. I just includes all of the camera, SMS and other hotfixes which had been released between the two versions.
Do you mean cooked ROMs you can download from XDA? The world of difference. Select a ROM with the features you want from the ROM section and flash it as per the instructions given.
Maybe over the next year you will read some of the posts. Maybe even learn a thing or two
if you do in fact mean cooked roms. then alot.
for me (an energy user) the phone no longer crashes every day. i can install all the apps i want and not hit the memory usage on the phone. The phone runs alot faster, smoother has better apps pre-installed and i just like it more?
After having read almost all threads from the beginning it seems that ALL branded HD2s are buggy to excess ..............
I use an unbranded one, and while once in a while I had some probs with 1.43 since 1.48 it runs as smooth as liquid nitrogene.
I have also installed SKTools and Pocket Mechanic, LeoCPUSpeed V.3.0, CHT 1.6 (the ultimate stable version till now), Chainfire´s 3D-driver and before any mod or installed app I do a backup. In case a new app causes probs I just revert to sit as before.
No single hardreset necessary till now since I unpacked it.
Honestly: I was heavily tried to flash a cooked ROM once, but I refrain from THAT as soon as I read in the specific threads about the many problems some of the users then have with lock-ups, freezes, bricking. And branded HD2s ARE cooked ROMS !
CHT, Franwella, Jaguaralani, Smaberg, MooNah and the many others (sorry for not remembering ALL names, but ALL are geniousses) offer such nice little mods that there is no need FOR ME to experiment with cooked ROMS.
Also on Freewarepocketpc - when is new app is issued - as soon as I read "does not work on HD2" I abstain from installing till a stable version is issued.
difference between o2 rom and unbranded rom
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in o2 rom wifi router is missing
Hi all,
Thanks for all the input so far.
Previous to having the HD2 I had an X1 which I flashed with various cooked ROM's successfully and it worked quite well.
Really, I just need to know what is missing on the O2 1.72 ROM that is on the equivalent stock ROM which I assume is 1.48 and would I benefit from flashing a stock ROM to the device.
Would it let me do this with no problems and would it affect the warranty, if it needed reapair, if I did flash it with a stock ROM or would I have to go back to the O2 ROM?
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I just got a used and unlocked AT&T 8525 with WM6 installed. How do i tell whether this is an official release or a bootlegged ROM upgrade?
hmm, that's a little hard, but i guess one way of telling is if there's that super annoying loud startup sound, then its 99% most likely the original at&t rom. any of the cooked rom will most likely have that statup sound removed.
go to start>settings>system>about device. This tells you what rom you are using. most stock roms will have their name on it. for example, my rom version is 3.62.03.dvh. this ISNT a stock rom as I'm with Telstra. Also the extended rom might be weird too. Hope this helps... Cheers
Sorry, still out of it from saturday night... I meant to say most stock roms just have a series number. cooked roms generally have their name on the rom...
my ROM version is 2.15.502.3
looks like it could be stock rom as most cooked roms have there own label. Also, does it have a lot of apps for AT&T as I can guarantee no cooked os would have this. The chefs take what is good and leave the bloat (network oriented apps). Cheers....
iv just got my brand new touch hd on orange, iv just started playing with it and am getting used to it slowly, iv had an o2 xda11i and an xda exec previously and both of them i flashed with roms from here, what do people recommend??
So far, I haven't flashed my Touch HD which is surprising as I was used to flashing my previous devices. Maybe the reason I haven't is I purchased an "unbranded" one from mobilephonedirect. If you have Orange branded one I'm assuming it has all manner of naff s/ware on it - my advice would be to flash either an unbranded stock rom, or a cooked rom
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iv just got my brand new touch hd on orange, iv just started playing with it and am getting used to it slowly, iv had an o2 xda11i and an xda exec previously and both of them i flashed with roms from here, what do people recommend??
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If you don't use the Orange bloatware, your phone would be way faster and be able to do a lot more if you loaded a newer rom... just my two cents!
what is a good rom to flash with?? its been a while since iv done this! iv just sat and gone thru the wiki.
Pugme said:
what is a good rom to flash with?? its been a while since iv done this! iv just sat and gone thru the wiki.
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Personally, I've just flashed it with the latest WWE stock ROM... got rid of my Orange bloatware and enjoying the experience "as is".
Im very happy with the way it is now, using a clean stock ROM and the Advanced Tools software.
My first step would be to flash it with the latest, clean stock ROM. This gives you the most up-to-date ROM from HTC without the bloat that Orange dumped on it. From there, I'd read up on some of the other ROMs such as Dutty's and DavieDuck's.... you might find the Manilla V3 or WM6.5 ROMS to be something you wish to experiment with also.
Theres plenty of info around here and plenty of help so when in doubt, search! When still stuck, post
Ok well i have just successfully upgraded to dutty's v2.9 and must say im quite happy, the new (dare i say it) i phone stlye start menu seems better. can i ask what other programs do people use, i will be installing tcpmt or whatever it was i used to use (core media player) and was thinking about wisbar, iv seen a thread on here about alternatives to the touch flo3d (point UI).
any recommendations would be very useful as iv been away from windows mobile for quite a while.
also i remember there being a ftp directory or something full of cab files, or maybe a list of cab files for my old xda, is there something like this for the touch hd??
also spb mobile shell 3.0 would that be used instead of touchflo3d??
sorry being a pain now!! lol iv just realised i got some cab files with the dutty 2.9 download and i have completely forgotten what im supposed to do with .cab file to install them, any help or a point in the right direction, i tried searching cab files but was unsuccessful.
also im slowly understanding what manila is but now im on dutty extreme 2.9 am i running new or old manila?? new i presume.
Hi,
I have just gone through the beginners guide and I have couple of queries.
1. I am having WM 6.5 original ROM from HTC for my HTC Touch Diamond2 and I am planning to go for cooked ROM. If anything goes wrong with Cooked ROM, Can I able to install again the WM 6.5 original ROM from HTC?
2. Whether cooked ROM have all the applications as which came from original ROM or some of application might not available in cooked ROM?
3. Mainly are we going for Cooked ROM only for look and feel and performance or anyother benefits are there like some extra built-in applications like that..?
4. How can we make sure whether particulat Cooked ROM will fit to our device. For example all the ccoked ROM in "Topaz ROM development" will fit for HTC Touch Diamond2?
Sorry for making so much questions, because it's better to prevent than cure.
and I am very much interested with the cooked ROM. thanks.
Hi, let me try to answer based on my exprerience:
1. Once you have installed Olinex HardSPL1.83 (which is simply NECESSARY), you'll be able to flash ANY ROM of ANY country, cooked or official. Just remember to re-lock the phone (see HardSPL thread) and put an official ROM back if you ever need to send the device back for assistance covered by warranty.
2. Generally, some really useless apps are removed in order to get more free memory but they still are available around , if someone really misses them.
3. Cooked ROMs main advantage is that they have updated apps,less bugs and, as you said, more speed and stability. Cooks generally tend to leave a maximum space available so that single users decide how to use it, but I guess it's also for copyright reasons that no extra apps are added. There are exceptions..for example my ROM contains a very cool app (ported from another HTC device) that allows my phone to act like a WiFi Acces Point, which wasn't there in the official build..Anyway when a ROM is published, cooks always make a list of what was removed,added or updated.
4. Only ROMs listed in their relative phone threads will work. If you own a Touch Diamond 2 (aka Topaz), Topaz forum is the place where you will find working ROMs for it.
Ciao!
thanks for kind reply, sualc.
New Questions here, old one at the bottom.
hi and thanks to everyone for your answers... you helped me a lot.
but:
I tried various 6.5 and 6.5.3 roms and found a lot of bugs in all of them... and that's not really my style. I want to go back to stock firmware 6.1 and there are not many options (or maybe i wasn't able to find them). Where can i find the Stock Firmware section or something like that, if they are unbranded even better, and if you can direct me to the latest one even better... i have installed the one from Orange in spanish meanwhile, i think it's Ver 1.57.75.3 found here. forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566929 but if there are better unbranded ones i'll be very happy to install them... (how about this one: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521354).
Thanks a lot again in advance...
old Question:
Hi, i bought yesterday my new Opal and i have no idea how to update the rom to windows 6.5... I´m a bit of a perfectionist so i wanna get things right from the beginning, and i used to mod motorola phones so i understand some of the technical stuff, but htc is completely new to me.
So far, this is what i have understood:
to update:
1.- install hard_spl
2.- install custom ruu
3.- install new rom.
But i have a lot of questions on what is each one of those things and the advantages they give.
What does Hard_SPL do?
What is the Custom RUU for? (what is the RUU?)
What is the most stable and least customized rom with winmo 6.5? which rom is the most used by this forum?
What is titanium?
and last: how is the Opal unlocked? (if posible)
Mi goal is to update to winmo 6.5 but keep my phone looking as stock as possible and as stable as possible...
all the help i can get will be very appreciated...
su8044 said:
to update:
1.- install hard_spl
2.- install custom ruu
3.- install new rom.
But i have a lot of questions on what is each one of those things and the advantages they give.
What does Hard_SPL do?
What is the Custom RUU for? (what is the RUU?)
What is the most stable and least customized rom with winmo 6.5? which rom is the most used by this forum?
What is titanium?
and last: how is the Opal unlocked? (if posible)
Mi goal is to update to winmo 6.5 but keep my phone looking as stock as possible and as stable as possible...
all the help i can get will be very appreciated...
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Congrats for your Htc touch viva!
Ok now initially Htc touch viva has its official spl which would not allow your device to upgrade to custom roms. You can only upgrade to official roms. So Spl is a kind of lock To unlock that only we use Hard SPL After installing HSPL you can upgrade to custom roms.
And you understood slightly wrong because Ruu = Rom update utility its just a app which is used to upgrade your rom in your device. So u dont install that. After HSPL directly rom
And about the roms i cant say coz every one has different flavours try them all At last titanium is a new interface made by microsoft and introduced in wm 6.5 and above.
A Word of Caution....
I want to add one thing...(IMPORTANT!!!)
#1
WM6.5.x has not yet been officially released for HTC Touch Viva T2223.
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#2:
If you are looking forward to experiment with it...go ahead on your own risk as your phone will be void of warranty after 'HardSPLing' it.
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#3:
Don't think that a particular WM 6.5.x ROM will work for your device just because it worked like a charm on somebody's device. Believe it or not, though it may be the same model ex: HTC Touch Viva T2223, there are variations depending on the country.
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#4:
I learned the hard way...I took a roundabout ticket....i HardSPLed my device, flashed custom roms, tweaked and played and fooled around with it and has come to a conclusion.
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The Verdict:
Stick with the Stock
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P.S: I didn't mean to frighten you!!!!I can assure you 100% that your mobile won't blow up in your face even if you fiddled with it's innards!!
I want to add one thing to what freelancer said:
Imo it is not ALWAYS the best to stick with the stock version. I had branded ROM shipped with my phone, hardSPLed it and installed custom translated unbranded ROM.
Does the same thing as branded ROM did but way faster. And some features like the HTC task manager didn't work with branded rom at all. Now everything works just fine.
I agree that stock ROMs are the best/fastest, but just not if you have a branded one. It slows down your device.
Just my opinion
greetz
boelze said:
I want to add one thing to what freelancer said:
Imo it is not ALWAYS the best to stick with the stock version. I had branded ROM shipped with my phone, hardSPLed it and installed custom translated unbranded ROM.
Does the same thing as branded ROM did but way faster. And some features like the HTC task manager didn't work with branded rom at all. Now everything works just fine.
I agree that stock ROMs are the best/fastest, but just not if you have a branded one. It slows down your device.
Just my opinion
greetz
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Lol, who said that stock is rom is best as far as about opal you should go ahead with custom roms i have seen that custom rom gives more free ram then stock. Plus task manager in stock rom that can be done in custom also the thing is the more the rom is lite the more efficiently your device will work do you know the stock rom .nbh file size is more than 100 mb whereas a normal custom rom is around 90 mb if there are many app and you can create less than 50 mb stock rom also. Wm 6.5 is perfect for opal inface wm 6.5.x also.
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I want to add one thing...(IMPORTANT!!!)
#1
#2:
#3:
#4:
The Verdict:
P.S: I didn't mean to frighten you!!!!I can assure you 100% that your mobile won't blow up in your face even if you fiddled with it's innards!!
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#1 >>>>> And it will never be announced!!! LOL
#2>>>>>> Well actually not because you can return to stock SPL!!!
#3>>>>>>> WELL I have to disagree!!!! The hardware is all the [email protected]@@@ LOL
#>>>>>>>>HMMM It all bottles down to personel Taste,, bro
THE VERDICT!!!!
Custom Roms RULE!!!!!
i don't mean to disagree with you guys (you know better) but i didn't mean to say that WM6.1 v1-vx is bad but as far as WM6.5 is concerned....they have disadvantages like they are buggy and also consumes battery quite fast.
Appearance wise...WM6.5 is way ahead...but performance wise....I'll stick with WM6.1 anytime.
currently i am using WM6.1 v14 by PDAVIET it is nearly perfect!!!!
regarding differences in hardware...i was meaning the CARRIER...like Verizon, DoPoD, T-Mobile (MDA Basic), iDea (India) and so on...sorry...
regarding stockspl...mine was SPL 1.35.0000...i couldn't find any download link for that..
hey brothers i think tht opal also should have a completely cleam winmo 6.5.3 rom plxxxxxx i love it on mi friends wizard which has less ram....i know ya guys can do it...and also brother winmo is all about customising and making changes to interface wen ya want... its not only themes..it has completely different uis tht can be swithched ezily... so ya gotta try these.....i guess after trying diferent lock screens games today screens thn aftr tht rty theroms
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hey brothers i think tht opal also should have a completely cleam winmo 6.5.3 rom plxxxxxx i love it on mi friends wizard which has less ram....i know ya guys can do it...and also brother winmo is all about customising and making changes to interface wen ya want... its not only themes..it has completely different uis tht can be swithched ezily... so ya gotta try these sites...forum.ppcwarez.org .....i guess after trying diferent lock screens games today screens thn aftr tht rty theroms
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Yeah bro sure i would also like a fully customized rom on my device but bro we have some problems while cooking for opal only with opal after fixing that i will try to make that type of rom but plz
Right now remove links to warez site do it now!!!!
Thanks but i want to go back to stock
hi and thanks to everyone for your answers... you helped me a lot.
but:
I tried various 6.5 and 6.5.3 roms and found a lot of bugs in all of them... and that's not really my style. I want to go back to stock firmware 6.1 and there are not many options (or maybe i wasn't able to find them). Where can i find the Stock Firmware section or something like that, if they are unbranded even better, and if you can direct me to the latest one even better... i have installed the one from Orange in spanish meanwhile, i think it's Ver 1.57.75.3 found here. forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566929 but if there are better unbranded ones i'll be very happy to install them... (how about this one: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521354).
Thanks a lot again in advance...
This is not a "what is the best ROM" thread
But what ROM are you using and why?
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Im using Dutty HG V1.1, 5.2.23544 ROM.
I started with Dutty's ROM when i had the TD2 (Topaz) and has continued with his ROM's when i got the Leo, mainly because i find it stable a clean.
Well stock 1.66 ROM.
Why: well i like the clean Sense look HTC made I have done lots of tweaks and some mods to it. But its 95% stock. Plus i run our HD2 support at work, so it helps me remembering where stuff is in the stock ROM. Untill i get my 2nd HD2 for work related stuff. Then i might install a custom ROM.
Others who will share their reasons for choosing the ROM they are using?
Stock 1.43 O2 UK
Mainly because I'm too much of a wuss to flash a custom ROM.
And O2 UK hasn't released a newer ROM yet.
Although to be honest, theres nothing more than a niggle in the messaging (started after installing a hotfix) that isn't working, and I'm an avid believer of the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" methods.
ROM: CleanEx v1.03
Why? It's a stripped down ROM with performance mods and it's lightning fast, based on WinMo 6.5 so looks stock - definitely worth a look IMO (see my sig)
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Stock 1.43 O2 UK
O2 UK hasn't released a newer ROM yet.
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Same here, and HIGHLY annoying from O2...waiting patiently...
I use stock as I just prefer the stock design etc, other roms seem to have stuff which I personally don't like.
I tweak it to suit my needs, but thats about it.
Stock 166 rom with cookies mods etc why coz i bricked two omnias flashing so now am too scared to brick my lovely phone
Stock 1.66 WWE, too scared to flash!! (although i did do the official upgrade from 1.48!)
SONE rom v1.36 because it is lightning fast, and has most of the apps removed, making it small, (thus freeing up extra storage space) and it is all but bug free (no sleep of death, finally!) oh, and it has cookies built in.
Artemis 5.0 with some visual tweaks (mainly elegance 3 & full landscape)
ROM: 2.10.531.7 Artemis 5.0 NLD
Radio: 2.07.50.27_2
Because for me Artemis roms have always worked great, and its like 'better stronger faster' at each new version, its a great sturdy fast rom, never had problems with installing or using any Artemis.
I use PIMBackup to copy over my contacts and messages between roms btw
L26V2.0 ultimate power. with maxmanila
why? full,fast and stable
I prefer a complete rom with most programs in it.
Stock 1.66 ROM for now... I had a HD and flashed it every couple of weeks, but I'm going to see how long stock can last me until I get bored and tired... Then I'll try out Miri, Dutty, and Laurentus in a month or so, plus any others that take my fancy.
+1 for Cookie's Mod and HD Wall for full-screen wallpaper.
Definitive Artemis v. 5.5. I have tried many different Roms and Artemis is the fastest and most stable.
artemis because:
- performance is always excellent (speed, stability, battery drain);
- it is very close to stock;
- it uses latest windows and manila builds (for leo only);
- it doesn't have compatibility issues with my 3rd party software;
- last but not least, i like sternas' attitude in pursuing his own philosophy and towards his "followers"
currently using the best and latest 5.5
cheers
Axlor V7 wm6.5
2.07 radio
My first custom rom on HD2 and its great, close to stock with some great apps and lovely Dinik icons! I have tweaked it and is running exactly how i want it!
L26V2.0 ultimate power.
why? full, fast and stable.
I'm using the ROM in my signature, because its the first one i flashed to and narly bricked my phone in the process not doing it properly getting to excited lol, so im sticking with this for a while lol
And now? What ROM are you using yet and why? Why did you switch to another ROM, just for fun or booring?
EnergyROM's 23549 Cookie build, latest release (March 17th).
I tried Artemis for a while, liked it, there was nothing wrong with it per se, just that EnergyROM was better, mostly because HTC Messaging is disabled by default, the Outlook that's included supports MMS, Swype is included, the way he does the UI just looks fantastic, Opera 10 included is amazing, and -- above all -- I love the way NRG does the Start Menu.
Stock 1.43 T-Mobile UK - with more than a dozen great cabs. Don't want to touch the registry, just in case the phone has to go back for insurance purposes and also because the ROM is pretty fast and excellent, speed-wise. Will wait for T-Mobile update and if it's a good one will get it. Otherwise l'll stay where l am at the moment because there's nothing wrong with my ROM ;-D