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I sure hope they do!
I really wanna use the marketplace!
I don't think so but I would really like it!
anyways, as long as Diamond 2 & Touch PRO 2 get updated (and they will), we will have a nice custom rom for us
2 words for the people that 'think SE will'.....
.....DREAM ON !
I think they will. Plus there are the custom roms if all else fails.
I think they will, because they allready have provided us with 1 update and there is another one in the making.
So they are trying to make an effort.
And either way, we will have a rom with 6.5. Heck, we allready have
They don't. Its like win on PC - if U buy win98 U can't upgarde to winME for free. Licences problem. But dont worry - we find WM 6.5 for xperia on this forum
They will
Microsoft offers the update for free and it´s up to SE if they want to give it away!
In a chat with Microsofts nordic Business Area Manager Peter Wissinger he gave us this answer:
Jan Johannesson: Hej, Kan jag uppgradera min Xperia X! till Mobile 6,5. mvh Jan Johannesson
Peter Wissinger: Nej - Sony Ericsson har inte aviserat att X1 skall få en uppgradering. Tycker dock att den är grymt bra som den är.
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Translated below.
Jan Johannesson: Hello, Can I upgrade my Xperia X! to Mobile 6.5. Best regards Jan Johannesson
Peter Wissinger: No - Sony Ericsson have not announced that X1 shall get an upgrade. Do, however, think that it is bloody good as it is.
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What about WinMo7 on Xperia?
I saw this post on Engadget.Com
I think lots of XDA-dev.com visitors know this site.
On Engadget they've spotted a video about Microsoft with (probably) Windows Mobile 7.
On that video, I saw a man (walking down the street) with Xperia X1 on it
Although this is just a video ... but it would be cool to have WinMo7 on Xperia
Just look for yourself
Videos:
Engadget.com
Microsoft Spot
Reckon ur missing an option for voting: an option for "I hope SE produces an upgrade!"
Seriously though, i see two camps here. There are XDA members who say "nope, no upgrade" (cause of X2, too costly etc), and those that say "deffo upgrade" (cause of R3A, OS from MS is free, etc).
Who knows, but i sure hope they do. Otherwise our awesome chefs will have one ported from who knows where in little more than a few hours.
Makes you think doesn't it.. it can't be that hard to make a rom now can it?? (excluding testing of course - but there's an idea.. maybe Sony Ericsson can release an alpha version to XDA - with all the users on the forum we can have it bullet proof tested within days!)
Not a chance.
1. It's pointless to update an outdated product with new system if SE can't make profit out of this action.
2. Since HTC is the ODMer, SE have to pay HTC again for making the new ROM
3. WM6.5 and WM7 require some special hardware design which X1 doesn't have. And M$ even require new WM logo on specfic place of all new WM6.5 hardware
4. SE have to pay twice the lisencing fee to M$.
5. Not good to SE's new phones (not only WM X2, but also other high-end ones)
I think they will, because Sony Ericsson want the Xperia to be their high class series. And they won't be able to compete against other brands, if they don't give their users updates and good service.
I dont think we will get 6.5.
Cos in this economy sitsuation SE probly will effort more to selling new phones, and especially to new Idou.
Since Xperia aint 100% SE phone like upcoming Idou will.
lvyelion said:
Not a chance.
1. It's pointless to update an outdated product with new system if SE can't make profit out of this action.
2. Since HTC is the ODMer, SE have to pay HTC again for making the new ROM
3. WM6.5 and WM7 require some special hardware design which X1 doesn't have. And M$ even require new WM logo on specfic place of all new WM6.5 hardware
4. SE have to pay twice the lisencing fee to M$.
5. Not good to SE's new phones (not only WM X2, but also other high-end ones)
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SE have made plenty profit with the high price that we paid. Also, MS have dropped the requirement for the WM Logo (check engadgetmobile / pocketnow / wmpoweruser).
You might be right on the ODM aspect. HTC have been..painful (ref: Kaiser issues).
On your last point hopefully SE's new phones have more than just a ROM update to get people to buy them. Besides - a company that has goodwill for supporting their phones will have 10 points in my book over a company that doesn't. No names mentioned.
As HTC have no plans for either the Pro or Diamond (v1) to have 6.5 (same age as the X1) and based on past performance from SE I really don't expect 6.5 from Sony Ericsson directly.
artesea said:
As HTC have no plans for either the Pro or Diamond (v1) to have 6.5 (same age as the X1) and based on past performance from SE I really don't expect 6.5 from Sony Ericsson directly.
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i am sorry but since when the X1i is the same age as the Pro and the Diamond???
The latter two are a lot older phones and their specs are much lower too compared to the X1i. If i remember correctly MS specifically mentioned the required specs to run 6.5 and neither the Pro or the Diamond fit within those specs but the X1 does
No, it won't, not officially anyway.
It'll get it inofficially, with custom ROMs.
mkouk said:
i am sorry but since when the X1i is the same age as the Pro and the Diamond???
The latter two are a lot older phones and their specs are much lower too compared to the X1i. If i remember correctly MS specifically mentioned the required specs to run 6.5 and neither the Pro or the Diamond fit within those specs but the X1 does
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Then you weren't around when I was having to make the choice between getting the X1 or the Pro. At most a month between them, and that's because the X1 was late.
the x1 is the same age as the htc hd and thats not getting a upgrade.
its not going to happen.
1 - sony will argue that it was made for 6.1 and there is no reason to upgrade.
2 - sony want to sell there new phone
3 - the cost would be too high to make a new 6.5 rom for a 6.1 device (the r3 is just improving on what is already there, thay have already overcome most of the problems in the x1 rom and not going to start again with a 6.5 rom)
I think artesea is right! Going by SE's past they wont release anything!
I remember seeing you on my-symbian around with that whole p990 fiasco. I had a m600.
But I dont worry about that official crap anyway This poll should've been on the official SE page but not on xda-developers...where the url is already the answer to the question!
Long live xda-developers
Hello everybody .
I know , asking for android on our acer s200 is like asking for a elefant to fly .
But let's see if we can do something about that .
We have more than an option , and we can start them together :
1) Sign up a petition to Acer , to open android support on our s200 since it's so similar to the liquid . As there's a kernel to compile and lots of programming skills involved , Acer could do it with less efforts since they know exactly what the hardware is , gaining lots of advertizing from this action .
They also could use this idea to promote a " for the planet campaign " .
There's a site in which we can initiate a free petition online .
2) Since Acer's people probably wil not understand that , we can raise up a fund collection here on xda . We could catch up everyone's adhesion on this site . Let's say everyone's listed here applies to pay a fixed sum to a developer . Let's say a sum of .... 20 dollars - 15 euros each ? Let's say there are 40 people who ask this , 20*40= 800 dollars !
If someone's interested in the development of such an android kernel for this device , he could gain some money for sure .
Unfortunately I'll not have much time now and for a while , so maybe someone can start a petition .
So , why don't we begin to start this ? what do you think ? Maybe I'll raise up only things like " go home fool " . Well , if that , take it as an useless post like many others and delete it
reserved . who knows ...
I could give more than 15 euros for that but I don't think it will work. Why acer would work on that when they have android phones. They will lose money from liquid sales I guess.
I already own an Xperia X10 but I would love to have android on my S200.
Dreaming is free, right?
Nice idea,but is it possible?I really want to see Android on my acer s200
Omfg this is like the third time someone post's this....im not going over it again sorry.
i'm HKG s200 user... same~~ I really want to see Android on my acer s200
Android already boots on the s200, you guys just need some devs to work on drivers etc.
looking forward for it....
CPU speed 1 GHz can make a good effort on android. we will wait to see it.
i don't want android it's WM phone.
personaly, i don' t want android on my s200 i prefer WM.... that's why i have a S200...
If i want an android, i would bought a liquid E or desire or galaxy S.... but not a S200 or hd2 or Wave or iphone....
sorry for my english
Android can boot on s200,though i's far away from perfect but it still means we can use it sooner or later,it's just a matter of time.
Keep waiting~ or I need to change my phone
Yes! I already try it on F1. however, everything don't work such as touch screen , signal etc.
android
I could give more than 15 euros
and my I could give more than 15 euros
I could give 20 euro...
i could also provide 20 euros
where can dl this rom?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7RjWLjDIzQ
"Acer s200 is a qsd8250 device. It is similar to toshiba tg01" http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=S200 . And now read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846777 Android works on Toshiba tg01, so...
this is the standard rom with SPB Mobile Shell
http://acer-club.ru/-t6221.html
good touch screen
With new phones such as the XPERIA PLAY, PRO AND ARC being released is it possible that XDA developers are planning to let go?
The X8 will not be able to sport optimal performance on upcoming android os, i can see the end coming?
i am sure that the development of j's rom will be done and racht will still produce some roms with j's rom and cynagonmod 7 but what after that?
is the x8 just going to be abandoned?
What is the future of the X8 with these new SE handsets arriving and many more better handsets?
even the x10 received the update and its bootloader was cracked
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Sony Ericsson dumped us, our only hope lies with racht, jerpelea and nobodyatall. If they leave then that's it, X8 is finished.
Programmers built android, programmers are develop it to next versions.
What makes you think that xda programmers cant develop them too?
...The problem is that they are paid and do their job, but xda programmers give us their free time for free to develop it , not to mention that they are alone...
The problem is not what is going to happend if our phone cant support next android version, the problem is how long can xda programmers spent their time for us , they have a life too.
PS: se dont give as updates why are you so crazy for next versions...
Just stop thinking about such things untill you see a rom custom by ratch that x8 can run.
2 year ago I wanted more and more from a dev of an firefox add on... 1 year ago I start developing my own add on with a friend... Everyone can programm but you has to try first.
Finally the unofficial update Gingerbread with CM features to X8 has been a reality with the help of one of the FreeXperia member. Although we have so many great ROMs out there it will never replicate what unique sony features is, but through this debranding engine we are very close to 2011 edition phone by SE. We have now the final release and thanks to Achotjan, but apparently due to he has no device to continually develop and support for X8, we will not have an frequent update. Below is the willingness of this guy to work on our device. In short we have to be united again like we did to bring back our great dev doixanh. If we like to have a frequent support we also have to make a move and help Achotjan.
i haven't the device in hand now , so will not be able to release new updates , if you really want to have more update on this rom , and a future ICS CM9 semc debrand engine so , donate me and wrote here on the thread the amount and confirmation number if i have necessary money to buy this device i will gladly buy the device and continue to work on
Cheers
Achotjan
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This thread is intended for all those who want to contribute in any amount that is warm in our heart.
If you will post something that against this, maybe you better shut up!
I guess we have to raise 200 (might change) dollars.
I dont know what is the exact price of x8.
To start with i will give 1dollar (might raise).
GUYS THIS IS SERIOUS IF YOU SAY YOU WILL DONATE PLEASE DO.
Please Share this to Other
Donation Link
Paypal
Or Here
Achotjan please monitor your account.
Donators:
1. deedii = 1 dollar
Yeah! C'mon guys! We'll riot Sony Ericsson! I'll see if I have any money on my card (I'm only a teenager so I don't know how much I have ) , also, we should all email Sony Ericsson with a pre-made email from here on the forum. So all you'd have to do is copy the email that some one of us XDA members will make and paste it into an email!
It could possibly change Sony's Mind!
i shoud donate ,but paypall not work in Srbija
@IrishStuff09 same here, only a teenager, but i will see if i have anything on my debit card
Im not promising i will (cuz i doubt i will have any money) but i will look
Irish to make it clear. The reason why SE doesn't support anymore 2010 series phone is because of there marketing strategy, actually there reason that the device cant handle any updates anymore because of low specs is just a cover up for the strategy. i know they are fully aware that this device can do a lot better than there cover up reason. So I think mailing them would not make any sense. If they will support X8 of course more people will choose X8 if it also have an Arc features, cheap yet powerful.
deedii said:
Irish to make it clear. The reason why SE doesn't support anymore 2010 series phone is because of there marketing strategy, actually there reason that the device cant handle any updates anymore because of low specs is just a cover up for the strategy. i know they are fully aware that this device can do a lot better than there cover up reason. So I think mailing them would not make any sense. If they will support X8 of course more people will choose X8 if it also have an Arc features, cheap yet powerful.
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not realy , xperia x8 is realy a problem for SE , why ? cause of drm releated think
x8 its a armv6 cpu based device and it will take more time and effort to make all armv7 libs for armv6 , they will lose a lot of time and of mony also , other then that the reason that why my rom is stable and speedy its cause of CM7 and our hacks
SE can not do that as they need to support the device after the update if you have the same ussd errors its not serius from a big manufacter , also i already trayed even for x10 to build a AOSP with semcdebrand engine and its realy lagy cuase ther is no tweak so i think they can not do that for x8 , but for x10 they can even make real multituch but they not do that thats is another question ,
but i agree that they can update it to at leas Froyo
cheers
Achotjan
...:-( no paypall in serbia....
deedii said:
Irish to make it clear. The reason why SE doesn't support anymore 2010 series phone is because of there marketing strategy, actually there reason that the device cant handle any updates anymore because of low specs is just a cover up for the strategy. i know they are fully aware that this device can do a lot better than there cover up reason. So I think mailing them would not make any sense. If they will support X8 of course more people will choose X8 if it also have an Arc features, cheap yet powerful.
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I see, but y'know, it could do something??!!
Start a petition maybe?
Sent from my ARCHOS 101G9 using XDA Premium HD app
Achotjan thanks for that clarification, well that is only my opinion.
Btw is there any other means people can donate at you aside from paypal?
IrishStuff09 said:
I see, but y'know, it could do something??!!
Start a petition maybe?
Sent from my ARCHOS 101G9 using XDA Premium HD app
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Well if its for the common good then I will always support it
We have to collect about 150$/115Euros. Achotjan need older device with unlocked bootloader or at least possibility of unlocking. Right now I'm without cash, but in 3 days I'll give Achotjan some bucks
Yes it will be a problem as well for him finding old release x8. Im also thinking about that a while ago since we have unlocking issues on new release.
Maybe someone is changing phone and has unlocked X8 to sell?
Im a teenager too :-/
but you can t buy a new phone. it s very risky about bootloader unlock...
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Best thing to do is to buy a used phone, which means he probably can unlock bootloader and it will be cheap too.
i am going to donate 2.5 gbp
deedii said:
Finally the unofficial update Gingerbread with CM features to X8 has been a reality with the help of one of the FreeXperia member. Although we have so many great ROMs out there it will never replicate what unique sony features is, but through this debranding engine we are very close to 2011 edition phone by SE. We have now the final release and thanks to Achotjan, but apparently due to he has no device to continually develop and support for X8, we will not have an frequent update. Below is the willingness of this guy to work on our device. In short we have to be united again like we did to bring back our great dev doixanh. If we like to have a frequent support we also have to make a move and help Achotjan.
This thread is intended for all those who want to contribute in any amount that is warm in our heart.
If you will post something that against this, maybe you better shut up!
I guess we have to raise 200 (might change) dollars.
I dont know what is the exact price of x8.
To start with i will give 1dollar (might raise).
GUYS THIS IS SERIOUS IF YOU SAY YOU WILL DONATE PLEASE DO.
Please Share this to Other
Donation Link
Paypal
Or Here
Achotjan please monitor your account.
Donators:
1. deedii = 1 dollar
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i am gonna donate 2.5 gbp
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where do i send to it i am in the uk and have a uk paypal i am only 14 so ic an only give 2.50 british pounds
achotjan...that true,but many devices(armv6) have froyo an 2.3 official...many samsung devices,huawei,viewsonic dual sim ,some lg devices and etc...SE,now Sony have surces to bring updates but dont wont to do that..l dont have paypall,if someone now ho to donate without pp,lets write here !
Achotjan said:
not realy , xperia x8 is realy a problem for SE , why ? cause of drm releated think
x8 its a armv6 cpu based device and it will take more time and effort to make all armv7 libs for armv6 , they will lose a lot of time and of mony also , other then that the reason that why my rom is stable and speedy its cause of CM7 and our hacks
SE can not do that as they need to support the device after the update if you have the same ussd errors its not serius from a big manufacter , also i already trayed even for x10 to build a AOSP with semcdebrand engine and its realy lagy cuase ther is no tweak so i think they can not do that for x8 , but for x10 they can even make real multituch but they not do that thats is another question ,
but i agree that they can update it to at leas Froyo
cheers
Achotjan
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But you must know that samsungs android isnt the same as sonys...
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eagleeyetom said:
Achotjan need older device with unlocked bootloader or at least possibility of unlocking.
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(and @deedii)
That's my very first thought as well.
If he goes out NOW to buy a new X8 the chances are incredibly high that he will only be able to fetch a post-11W29 device that can't be unlocked by software - this means he has to take the trouble to crack it open with either setool2 or Wotan (and both methods aren't tried yet).
I think it would be a whole lot more efficient if Achotjan would first investigate his options to either somehow get a OLD X8 that can be unlocked by the_laser's hack or determine that he can unlock a newer 11W29+ / 12W## X8 through the testpins trick.
B.Jay said:
(and @deedii)
That's my very first thought as well.
If he goes out NOW to buy a new X8 the chances are incredibly high that he will only be able to fetch a post-11W29 device that can't be unlocked by software - this means he has to take the trouble to crack it open with either setool2 or Wotan (and both methods aren't tried yet).
I think it would be a whole lot more efficient if Achotjan would first investigate his options to either somehow get a OLD X8 that can be unlocked by the_laser's hack or determine that he can unlock a newer 11W29+ / 12W## X8 through the testpins trick.
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hmmmm, yes, if we dont contact him saying that he should buy a pre-owned x8 with the date 11w28 and below, he might go out to shops now and come back with one that we will have to crack through testpins, and this will be hard. what if there could be a fix to fill up the security hole?
nah, i doubt it. Wish there was though.....
So how'd you think we will crack these testpins? The only things i have ever hacked is someones cctv, and my neighbors wifi
EDIT: hey guys, check this out! wander what date it is......
Hello happy jolla owners, i want to ask you all, how the phone`s behavior?
I mean is it has a little frozens, lags or bugs? Is the ram is enough to use the phone normal? Can any of you make a compare the OS with android and wp8 ?
I am currently wp8 user and the phone doesnt have any lag or bugs . Is the Jolla the same , or its similar to android ?
I am from Bulgaria and here there are no jolla phones yet, may be we must wait for a while till they come here . I just want to know is it fair to wait the phone to come , or to buy nokia lumia 1020 ?
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1393064#post1393064