I am a Verizon customer that was a Alltel customer. I kept my alltel contract because it was much better than a new Verizon contract, but Verizon said I would have to buy my phones outright if I wanted to ever upgrade. My question is that on eBay some HD2's are gsm and I know cannot be used on Verizon but some are wcdma/gsm phones, can those be activated on verizon's network?
Thanks for any input. I could not find a definitive answer.
In short, WCDMA =/= CDMA. WCDMA/UMTS is the 3G evolution of GSM, and has nothing to do with CDMA. Confusing, but the gist of it is that there's no way to use an HD2 on CDMA. Might have more luck flashing a Sprint EVO to Verizon's PRL, but since CDMA's functionally dead in my country I've not looked into it at all.
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For some reason, I thought the salesman said both Verizon & ATT GN3's were gsm. Is that true or is VZ cdma? I thought I read somewhere they were switching over at some time. I was thinking gsm was preferable, but is it?
Thanks in advance.
The N3 is world phone so yes its gsm too
Sim unlocked ? I don't know the note 2 was unlocked but you can't add APN settings
Speedy Gonzalez said:
The N3 is world phone so yes its gsm too
Sim unlocked ? I don't know the note 2 was unlocked but you can't add APN settings
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Thanks very much. So I could use it at some future time on Straight Talk network? What about ATT after contract met? But would an ATT phone transfer to VZ if it's a world phone?
kat3k said:
Thanks very much. So I could use it at some future time on Straight Talk network? What about ATT after contract met? But would an ATT phone transfer to VZ if it's a world phone?
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The ATT phones don't have the CDMA hardware to work on Verizon.
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kat3k said:
For some reason, I thought the salesman said both Verizon & ATT GN3's were gsm. Is that true or is VZ cdma? I thought I read somewhere they were switching over at some time. I was thinking gsm was preferable, but is it?
Thanks in advance.
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All verizon phones have CDMA radios in them. The 3G service from verizon is CDMA. International phones utilize a GSM 3G radio as well, as Europe uses GSM exclusively. The 4G radio, however, is GSM. Therefore, all 4G verizon phones are also GSM. Until 3G gets phased out, All Verizon 4G phones will have both GSM and CDMA radios.
I had a little too much fun on new years eve .. I set my Verizon LG G2 down on a table and apparently either I left it or it was stolen .. I probably left it hahaha..
Now i'm trying to get another one .. I really loved the phone...
I'm scouring eBay ..
I'm in a 2 year contract with verizon ..... but, I wanted to know ... Can I use a Sprint based LG G2 on the verizon network ? Will I still get verizon LTE ?
Same thing with T-mobile versions ? Can I get all the bands and function I did out of my verizon LG G2 ?
Thanks for the heads up guys.
I know that the Verizon one can use Sprint, but I am not sure about the other war around. I think the global one works on Verizon's LTE band, although I am not sure an that either. If you can afford it, get the Verizon model (VS980) off contract. You can check the bands and other specs on phone arena.
The T-Mobile one seems to share frequencies of Verizon's though.
Hope I helped.
Verizon and Sprint are CDMA carriers and run on compatible CDMA frequencies and technologies (1xRTT, EvDO) and both their branded phones can roam on/off each other's network for both voice and data.
Having said that, the fact that they're primarily CDMA carriers means that you cannot just bring a phone onto their respective networks. The ESN/MEID of the phone has to already be in their database for them to activate.
So, taking a Sprint LG G2 and walking into a Verizon store or calling Verizon to activate it will get you a big fat NO, and vice versa.
Is it technically possible? Of course.
Worth the effort/hassle? No.
T-Mobile is a GSM carrier, no CDMA, so that's out of the question, same with AT&T, or any GSM variant of the G2.
Get a Verizon LG G2. Just keep looking carefully and you'll find a good deal.
I got my Sprint LG G2 mint in box for 325, clean ESN, no funny business. Love it to bits.
You can use Sprint LG G2 on Tmobile, takes about 20 minutes
LordLugard said:
Verizon and Sprint are CDMA carriers and run on compatible CDMA frequencies and technologies (1xRTT, EvDO) and both their branded phones can roam on/off each other's network for both voice and data.
Having said that, the fact that they're primarily CDMA carriers means that you cannot just bring a phone onto their respective networks. The ESN/MEID of the phone has to already be in their database for them to activate.
So, taking a Sprint LG G2 and walking into a Verizon store or calling Verizon to activate it will get you a big fat NO, and vice versa.
Is it technically possible? Of course.
Worth the effort/hassle? No.
T-Mobile is a GSM carrier, no CDMA, so that's out of the question, same with AT&T, or any GSM variant of the G2.
Get a Verizon LG G2. Just keep looking carefully and you'll find a good deal.
I got my Sprint LG G2 mint in box for 325, clean ESN, no funny business. Love it to bits.
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In response to this assessment I have to correct these "facts"
You CAN use Tmobile's network on Sprint LG G2 Variant. See Younggunners forum on Sprint-Tmobile rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639165
I am currently getting 4G speeds at around 14 mb on the down and 4 on the up, very workable.
I can attest that it works; I have also performed the flash on other sprint LG G2 LS980 Variants as well.
I am using Justin's rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639165&page=11,
It's an awesome stock experience!
twill1987 said:
In response to this assessment I have to correct these "facts"
You CAN use Tmobile's network on Sprint LG G2 Variant. See Younggunners forum on Sprint-Tmobile rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639165
I am currently getting 4G speeds at around 14 mb on the down and 4 on the up, very workable.
I can attest that it works; I have also performed the flash on other sprint LG G2 LS980 Variants as well.
I am using Justin's rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639165&page=11,
It's an awesome stock experience!
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I think you missed what he was saying. He was saying that the T-Mobile and ATT variants do not support any CDMA so they will not work at all. The sprint variant supports Verizon CDMA but verizon will not activate a sprint device on their network. In any case the sprint device does not support Verizon LTE bands. Even if Verizon activated a sprint g2 on their network it would be 3G only.
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I saw a similar thread to this, but it wasnt my same situation. I've been shopping for a LG G2 to work on verizon, found a dude on craigslist with what he says is an unlocked one, Now he says its a sprint one. But unlocked for any carrier....is this true? Like is this even possible? If so, is it going to work on verizon...100%? Like data 4g, 3g etc?
Thanks all!
I'm not an expert but I believe they are both CDMA. So it should work
askmeonemore said:
I'm not an expert but I believe they are both CDMA. So it should work
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That was my initial thought as well, but for 4g it should work no problem but for 3g/2g doesnt the ESN have to be registered on the network?
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That was my initial thought as well, but for 4g it should work no problem but for 3g/2g doesnt the ESN have to be registered on the network?
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Yes. Verizon years ago had a bring your own device policy that allowed you to register sprint devices on Verizon, but that was a long time ago.
staticx57 said:
Yes. Verizon years ago had a bring your own device policy that allowed you to register sprint devices on Verizon, but that was a long time ago.
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So i am correct, that it will not work?
Don't bother.
CDMA carriers like Verizon and Sprint have a database of ESN's (serial numbers) that are approved for their network unlike GSM carriers like T-Mobile and AT&T where you can just pop in their respective SIM cards and use compatible unlocked GSM devices.
You can't just walk into a VZW store with a Sprint phone, go to the counter and tell the rep that you want to activate service with a (non-Verizon branded phone) Sprint phone. First of all, the ESN/MEID is not in their database, doesn't have any VZW prl (preferred roaming list) loaded, and in the case of LTE, isn't even compatible (VZW runs LTE on 700mhz, Sprint is on 800/1900/2500).
However, Sprint and VZW technically run their CDMA service (1xrtt, 3G EVDO) on compatible frequencies 800/850/1900, hence the reason their customers can roam off each other and vice versa. So technically it can work if VZW will accept the Sprint device ESN into their database and do all the backend OTA programming etc, but that's not going to happen. There's always the murky underworld of cloning, but i'll stop right here...
As for the person on Craigslist trying to urinate on you and convince you that it is raining, forget about him/her. It's likely that it might be unlocked, but that's only the GSM portion, for GSM carriers and not Verizon.
If you need a phone to use on Verizon, why not just get a Verizon phone and save yourself the hassle?
I've been with T-Mobile for many years and am currently using a rooted S5. Recently moved to a rural area where the only good cell signal is Verizon, so thinking of switching. Is it still true that GSM and CDMA phones are not at all compatible on each other's networks, or is this possible? My S5 is all paid off and working fine, so I'd hate to have to start over with paying for a new device since Verizon has now gone to the same "non-subsidized" equipment model as TMO.
It doesn't look like it's possible. https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/822033?forceNoRedirect=true
Hi - I wanted to switch to Cricket so I purchased an S4 from Craigslist (beautiful phone & perfect condition) and took it to the Cricket store to activate it. I was told it was one of the old CDMA phones and they can no longer activate them. This wasn't really the story I got when I called Cricket Customer Service and gave them the IMEI, but that's neither here nor there.
QUESTION: What network can the old Cricket Samsung Galaxy S4 (SCH-R970C) CDMA be used on?
The specs on the Samsung site shows it supports the following Frequencies and Data Type LTE: Bands 2/4/25; CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev.A: 800/AWS/1900MHz.
P.S. Searched the forums quite extensively, but to my surprise, I couldn't find much on this. I'm sure there are a lot of these Cricket phones out there though. What has everyone else done with theirs?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4
Here you can see what different frequencies are used in the different models. That way you can crossreference.
Based upon the frequencies, it appears it could be activated on Sprint or Verizon, assuming either company has a means of allowing out of network phones on their network. High speed data won't be happening with this S4. Sprint Spark doesn't use LTE, and Verizon blocks LTE on phones that aren't Verizon branded.
For anyone else looking in the future: I also found a carrier ting.com that appears to show 4G could be used.
Ting is a Sprint MVNO, which means it uses Sprint Spark for its high-speed data. Earlier this year they started offering GSM coverage, and that coverage apparently is through T-Mobile. HSPA+ should be doable through Ting, just as it should be doable on all MVNOs. LTE is unlikely.
using mine on verizon with gusto 3 donor phone